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A political podcast for non-political people. Asking the simple & ignorant questions about our country (Canada) and government from a raw and accessible perspective.

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A political podcast for non-political people. Asking the simple & ignorant questions about our country (Canada) and government from a raw and accessible perspective.

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Economics: The Most Complex Man Made System – Part Two (GT023B)

5/22/2023
An in depth and broken down look at economics and the economy; and some of the building blocks that are involved in this extremely complex and seldom understood ‘Man Made’ system. “For us to break out of the current business, government lock on things, there has to be a change in consciousness to lead it first!” A few of the things we touch on are: Thanks to you for listening – Until Next Time… Stay Strong and Stay Curious! **If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.** To support the Podcast, just click below or go to the website… and Buy us some… Time, Energy or Equipment $$ a Beer $8… a Coffee $5… … Many thanks for all the Support!! www.governthis.ca www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis

Duration:01:05:17

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Economics: The Most Complex Man Made System – Part One (GT023A)

5/7/2023
An in depth and broken down look at economics and the economy; and some of the building blocks that are involved in this extremely complex and seldom understood ‘Man Made’ system. “For us to break out of the current business, government lock on things, there has to be a change in consciousness to lead it first!” A few of the things we touch on are: Thanks to you for listening – Until Next Time… Stay Strong and Stay Curious! **If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.** To support the Podcast, just click below or go to the website… and Buy us some… Time, Energy or Equipment $$ a Beer $8… a Coffee $5… … Many thanks for all the Support!! www.governthis.ca www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis

Duration:01:05:59

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Becoming a Citizen, Understanding Privilege and the Dissolving of Our Rights and Freedoms – with ‘Citizen Luke’ (GT022)

5/11/2022
Luke is a 4-year old Canadian Citizen that came to Canada from Australia. We talk about his background, his journey to citizenship and the process all immigrants must go through. “Thanks for the immigration, and thanks for the weed… and you know… you can take back everything else that you did….” “I agree with the problem, I don’t agree with the solution.” We delve into his thoughts on the structure of law and government, and how it affects and defines privilege and personal freedom. As well as the need to compare our structures to those of other countries, in order to truly understand the depth of how they affect personal freedoms. He explains the importance of the Canadian Constitution and The Charter of Rights and Freedoms: its history, its direct relation to our personal freedoms and the current assault on it. “The Charter was a ‘Canadian’ law – the first time that the structure of law and government was founded in Canada, instead of an act of British Parliament.” “What we’re seeing in recent times, in my opinion, is the biggest assault on the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in the history of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.” “…And people are Cheering it along… this.. this erosion of these protections… they’re being convinced that it’s good for them, and it’s good for everyone.” “The people who are worried about this, they’re aware of what could be lost. Most people aren’t aware of what they could lose.” It was a long chat, a good chat, a fun chat, and I am more informed, aware and intrigued because of it – Thanks Luke! Thanks to you for listening – Until Next Time… Stay Strong and Stay Curious! **If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.** To support the Podcast, just click below or go to the website… and Buy us some… Time, Energy or Equipment $$ a Beer $8… a Coffee $5… … Many thanks for all the Support!! www.governthis.ca www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis

Duration:01:40:03

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BC Employees Organize and Fight for Freedom – Meet Philip Davidson and the ‘BC Public Service Employees for Freedom’ (BCPSEF – GT021)

4/10/2022
“The BCPSEF stands for Medical privacy and bodily autonomy and for workers fundamental employment rights.” – Philip Davidson “…You know, I don’t know if we’ll get there… but if we kind of allow this sort of thing to happen, or we accept this as normal, or ok, then we’ve lost something important in our society….” – Philip Davidson What’s happening to Public Service Employees of British Columbia… well, they’ve been told to either share their vaccination status or be terminated. Simple as that. But there is a group that has formed that is standing up against this mandate – the BCPS Employees for Freedom (BCPSEF). In this episode I talk with Philip Davidson from the society and we get into the details of when and how this started, what is happening now, and why it’s important to stand up against it. Episode Links: Website: bcpsforfreedom.com Donate: GiveSendGo or PayPal YouTube: BCPS Employees for Freedom Instagram: BC Public Servants for Freedom Rumble: BCPS Employees for Freedom Vimeo: BCPS Employees for Freedom Librti: BCPS for Freedom Twitter: @BCPSFORFREEDOM “Thanks for listening and Until Next Time… Stay Strong and Stay Curious!” **If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.** To support the Podcast, just click below or go to the website… and Buy us some… Time, Energy or Equipment $$ a Beer $8… a Coffee $5… … Many thanks for all the Support!! www.governthis.ca www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis

Duration:01:17:16

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‘Courage Is Contagious’: Neophyte Politician, Non-Compliance Advocate, and Courage Guru – Meet Jeremy MacKenzie, Former 2021 PPC Candidate (GT020)

10/23/2021
An hour with Jeremy MacKenzie will have you delving into: Episode Links: Action 4 Canada PPC (People’s Party of Canada) Thanks for listening & Until next time… Stay Strong and Stay Curious – CJ 🙂 *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ a Beer $8… a Coffee $5… – Many thanks for all the Support!! www.governthis.ca www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis

Duration:01:07:04

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‘The Line in the Sand’: With Andrew Veness of Action4Canada (GT019)

9/27/2021
An encouraging chat with Andrew Veness, a volunteer for Action4Canada. We cover a few things including the following: Episode Links: Action 4 Canada The Constitutional Rights Centre (Rocco Lawsuit Video) Children Health Defence Vaccine Choice Canada Dr. Hoffe (Video Mentioned ‘Capillary Blockage’) Telegram Gab Thanks for listening & Until next time… Stay Strong and Stay Curious – CJ 🙂 *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5… a Beer $8… or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ – Many thanks for all the Support!! www.governthis.ca www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis

Duration:01:03:21

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‘We Can’t Be Passive’: With John Randal Phipps (PPC Victoria Candidate, at the Sept.1 Rally – GT018)

9/11/2021
A quick chat with PPC Victoria Candidate John Randal Phipps after the Sept 1 rally. He addresses ‘Lies and Fraud’, being ‘Ferocious Canadians’, and even the challenge to put our personal hobbies on hold as this is a time to fight for our freedoms. (Note: at 2:35, I meant to say “the rally on Wed” Sept 1st) SEPT. 13 RALLY See poster or go to: www.canadianfrontlinenurses.ca/events LINKS/RESOURCES canadianfrontlinenurses.cavaccinechoicecanada.comvanislethreads.caaction4canada.com Thanks for listening & Until next time… Stay Curious – CJ 🙂 *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5… a Beer $8… or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ – Many thanks for all the Support!! www.governthis.ca www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis

Duration:00:12:49

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Are They Overreaching? (BC Gov. Protest and Important Coming Events – GT017)

8/26/2021
A quick chat with organizer Joelle when I stop off at a Rally at the Legislature in Victoria, BC on Wed Aug.25. I learn about the Canadian Frontline Nurses and their GLOBAL STRIKE/Protest on Sept. 1st., and the WorldWide Rally Sept. 18/19. As well as the below resources, which we should all look into as much as we can, sort through the information, not just the soundbites the major media and government want you to hear. We need to do the work, we need to think critically and logically, and we need to stand up for that logic and our freedoms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2IdsYjfl2o LINKS/RESOURCES canadianfrontlinenurses.cavaccinechoicecanada.comvanislethreads.caaction4canada.com Thanks for listening & Until next time… Stay Curious – CJ 🙂 *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5… a Beer $8… or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ – Many thanks for all the Support!! www.governthis.ca www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis

Duration:00:10:21

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They Sue the Government for Your Rights and Freedoms – With Lawyer Marty Moore (GT016)

6/19/2021
“Rights and Freedoms”… in Canada and throughout COVID?… We actually Do Have them! And Justice Centre Lawyer Marty Moore brings it all to light here. This was a fun and really important conversation – and the urgency of becoming informed and aware becomes more evident as we cover such topics and issues as: – The Canadian Constitution and State of Emergency – Business Shutdowns and an Overreaching Government – People being Condemned to be Left Alone and Stripped of all Personal Choice – The Complete Dismantling of our Right to Protest, Freedom of the Press and Freedom of Expression – Lockdowns, Vaccines and growing Peer Pressure, and Medical Freedoms – Fighting for Freedom as a Canadian – And how the Government CAN actually be sued if they don’t stay in their lane It seems strange to talk about having to fight for freedoms in Canada in 2021, but it seems to be a real issue, and we need to snap out of our complacent and prideful ‘yes ma’am’ mentality and stand up to those who should be working for us instead of overlording, silencing, reprimanding and punishing us. If you haven’t heard of the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms you should really take some time to visit their website at www.JCCF.ca and dig into all of their amazing resources: their ‘Two Minutes with the Justice Centre’ articles; their videos, podcasts, ebooks; and all the cases they’re involved with across Canada. So check them out, it’s all very enlightening and encouraging! Like Marty said “Educating yourself is really key to being persuasive in conversations.” We can’t be passive any longer! Well… Thanks for listening & Until next time… Stay Curious – CJ 🙂 *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5… a Beer $8… or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ – Many thanks for all the Support!! www.governthis.ca www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis

Duration:01:38:13

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The 2021 GT ReBoot – GT015

3/12/2021
A little reboot rundown on what to expect in upcoming episodes – an expansion on the original podcast. Hope you enjoyed this episode and thanks for listening. Until next time… Stay Curious – CJ 🙂 *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5… a Beer $8… or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ – Many thanks for all the Support!! http://www.governthis.ca http://www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis

Duration:00:11:50

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Esquimalt Council’s Tim Morrison on the 2019 Canadian Federal Election – GT014

9/22/2019
It was great to sit down with Esquimalt City Council member Tim Morrison the other day. We chatted about his extensive and interesting resume; what led him to be on city council; how he views his role as a city council member; and the upcoming 2019 federal election and how it affects local communities. Hope you enjoy this episode and thanks for listening. Until next time... Stay Curious – CJ :) *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5... a Beer $8... or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ - Many thanks for all the Support!! http://www.governthis.ca http://www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis

Duration:01:31:41

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First Trip to the Legislature with my Pal Dylan MacCannell – GT013

4/8/2019
In this episode my buddy Dylan and I talk about our first experience of going to see Parliament in Session at the BC Legislature. Photos on the Blog (sorry they don't show on the apps, so if you want to see him go to http://www.governthis.ca): Dylan on the left: Cleaned up... and on the right, what he first showed up wearing, I made him go home and change, haha. We talk about this on the podcast. Thanks for listening & Until next time... Stay Curious – CJ :) *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5... a Beer $8... or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ - Many thanks for all the Support!! http://www.governthis.ca http://www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis *SHOW NOTES … to come

Duration:00:31:24

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BC’s Referendum on Electoral Reform with Prof. Daniel Westlake – GT012

11/11/2018
So here we are in the middle of a very important Referendum in BC where many people either don't know about it or are confused. If you do know what's generally going on I'll bet you're missing a few key bits of information that Daniel brings to light here. We got into the details of the referendum and the proposed voting systems... how they work, how they "could work" and what he is curious about in terms of how the government would structure and implement a few things – as some of the information is a little unclear and being left out of both the pro and anti campaigns. As well as the impact the systems might have on how MLA's could act. It gets detailed, but if I can follow and finally get a handle on it I'm sure you can to - and hey, that's what the rewind button's for right. To help sort things out... at the end of the episode Daniel shares his thoughts on where the best places to get information are - from academics more than from the campaigns as they are so currently polarized and as Daniel puts it, "... look for people who talk about trade offs, who acknowledge that there are problems with any kind of electoral system." Thanks for listening & Until next time... Stay Curious – CJ :) *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5... a Beer $8... or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ - Many thanks for all the Support!! http://www.governthis.ca http://www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis *SHOW NOTES … to come

Duration:01:51:22

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BC’s Electoral Reform with Prof. Daniel Westlake – GT011

5/23/2018
This is the follow up episode with Professor Daniel Westlake where we talk more in depth about what is going on in BC and our own Electoral Reform. Daniel Westlake is a Professor from the University of Victoria who teaches Electoral Reform. Check out the prequel where we get into the details of Electoral Reform and the types of systems there are and how they work. Thanks for listening & Until next time... Stay Curious – CJ :) *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5... a Beer $8... or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ - Many thanks for all the Support!! http://www.governthis.ca http://www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis *SHOW NOTES … to come

Duration:01:03:21

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Electoral Reform with Prof. Daniel Westlake – GT010

5/6/2018
British Columbia is in the midst of Electoral Reform with a referendum coming this fall. I was able to track down Daniel Westlake, a Political Science professor who teaches the subject and he agreed to sit down and give me the low down. In this episode we focus on what Electoral Reform is all about and the different types of systems that could come up and how they're structured. It was a great chat and it really helped me to understand what happens in elections and what could happen within different systems. It's all very complex and each system has their positives and negatives - so it's no easy choice. Thanks for listening & Until next time... Stay Curious – CJ :) *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5... a Beer $8... or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ - Many thanks for all the Support!! http://www.governthis.ca http://www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis *SHOW NOTES … to come

Duration:00:58:58

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How Canada Got Started with Nathan Walsh – GT009

11/7/2017
OK... Montreal turned 375 this year... and Canada turned 150... what's going on... why is Montreal so much older, and what was happening before Canada became Canada? These are the few questions that started me down a road that I think will last for many sporadic episodes in the future. I'm so curious now as to how Canada began... what was going on for all those years after Montreal was a city and before Canada was a country. When did the provinces start, what was the order they joined Canada in, what were the years... among so many other questions that come up once I start learning that there really are no simple answers or explanations. To kick it all off I sit down with my buddy Nathan Walsh – a young and eloquent Canadian History buff – who tries to get me on track with some (we have lots more to cover) of the basics of what was going on leading up to Confederation and the culmination of the 'Dominion of Canada'. The main focus I suppose is "Colonial Canada" but some of the things we touch on include: - The early French and English Presence (and even the Dutch) - Upper and Lower Canada, what they are and where they were - How "Profit" had an impact on Colonizing - The Hudson's Bay Company - The Battle of the Plains of Abraham - The English and French and their alignments with the Indigenous people of the area - The Rebellion of 1837 - Lord Durham and his "Report" - The Railway - And how Nathan really likes and gets excited about the "Battles" (you'll have to listen through to get the feeling;) ) All in all, It's a lot more complicated and way more interesting than I ever knew or imagined. I will definitely be grabbing a couple more beers and sitting down with Nathan to drill him with more ignorant questions. Thanks for listening & Until next time... Stay Curious – CJ :) *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5... a Beer $8... or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ - Many thanks for all the Support!! http://www.governthis.ca http://www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis *SHOW NOTES … to come

Duration:01:48:02

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Bob Warwick: on Managing a Provincial MLA Campaign to Working with the Greens between Elections – GT008

8/9/2017
Bob Warwick and I take a few moments to sit down and talk about what it was like for him to manage BC Green Candidate Dr. Chris Maxwell's campaign during the 2017 Provincial Election in BC. Then we get into what goes on with political parties between elections and what it's like being a part of that on the Green side of things provincially and federally. We also talk about his almost Math degree - which is a nicely comical story... among lots of other little tidbits. We had a great time and lots of laughs. Hope you enjoy. Thanks for listening & Until next time... Stay Curious – CJ 🙂 *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5... a Beer $8... or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ - Many thanks for all the Support!! http://www.governthis.ca http://www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis *SHOW NOTES … to come

Duration:01:27:58

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Elections: From Campaign Start to Elected Government with Andrew Reeve – GT007

5/23/2017
Andrew Reeve returns to talk about elections and what happens on either side of one. Starting from when the campaigning begins as the Writ is Dropped and the current Government is dissolved, to what happens on election day and how to follow it. Then we get into our current 2017 BC Election and the different scenarios that could occur, regardless of how things actually do turn out. I found it all super interesting and insightful, and I hope you do as well. Thanks for listening & Until next time... Stay Curious – CJ 🙂 *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* Buy us a Coffee $5... a Beer $8... or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ - Many thanks for all the Support!! http://www.governthis.ca http://www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis *SHOW NOTES … to come

Duration:01:41:21

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Running ‘Independent’ at 21 with Jordan Templeman – GT006

5/4/2017
It was a refreshing to sit down and chat with Independent Candidate and 21 year old Political Science student Jordan Templeman. I enjoyed hearing his well considered thoughts on all the major issues, the major political parties and his experience so far running in this election. It was encouraging and inspiring.... and I definitely learned a lot once again. We covered many of the same topics from my chats with Dr. Chris Maxwell and Andrew Reeve, but from yet another perspective - the Independent perspective, as well as delving into some new areas. - Visit Jordan on Facebook Some topics we cover include: - Running as an independent and his decision to give this a go - Whips - they have a place, but maybe not all the time (the Greens might have a good thing going here) - Minority & Majority Government - His Platform, where he lands on the political spectrum (Left/Right) and how he'd want to support his riding/community - Campaigning and how there is often party bashing and pointing fingers, his view... "It should be about what you can do better for the province, not what other people have done negatively for the province." - Party donations - if it's wrong it's wrong - Site C Dam - he's more concerned with the economic side than the environmental side - Clean Energy, the Fossil Fuel sector and Jobs - creating jobs is good, so is clean industry but we have to also think of those that could be displaced from work and end up having a skills gap while looking for new employment - Daycare - $10/day ... maybe a better idea is to raise the 'child allowance' and the age to which it is paid (currently 6yrs old in BC, apparently the lowest in the country) - Youth and young adults - how to get them more interested and involved... "How do we get them interested before they're negatively impacted at all?" - Changing the voting age to 16 - if they can join the military, shouldn't they be able to vote? - Electoral Reform - a referendum is really the only way to approach it in a truly democratic way, he said ... "An ignorant democracy is better than a well informed dictatorship." **I end the chat with asking about his plans after the election - what a jerk I am, anything could happen, he could be elected, all people have to do is VOTE for him!... anyway, I think his response here really shows his maturity, character and integrity. Good on ya Jordan! Thanks for listening & I hope you enjoy! *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* – Until Next time… Stay Curious – CJ 🙂 ***Party Platforms*** BC Greens Party Platform BC Liberal Party Platform BC Liberal Party – Vancouver Island Platform BC NDP Party Platform Buy us a Coffee $5... a Beer $8... or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ - Many thanks for all the Support!! http://www.governthis.ca http://www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis *SHOW NOTES … to come

Duration:01:25:59

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Voting & Political Insights with Andrew Reeve – GT005

4/30/2017
This chat with Andrew was really fun and I learned a ton! He is great at explaining things and has quite the resume which he skims through during our chat. Andrew is a Political Science graduate from the University of Victoria who works in the Whip's Office at the Legislature. He is also currently the Campaign Manager for Esquimalt-Metchosin Liberal Candidate Barb Desjardins for the coming 2017 BC Election on May 9th. (** I should note that all of the thoughts and opinions he gives here are His alone and he is Not speaking on behalf of any political party or candidate). We cover a lot of stuff in this episode and it's hard to narrow some bullet points down to give you a good overview - as I find so much of it to be important for this coming election... but here are a few things that you'll hear us talk about: - His background and how he got to leading a campaign for the 2017 BC Election - The different voting styles people tend to use - party based, local candidate based or issue based - The lack of civic/political education and how the reason people often don't vote is because they simply don't feel educated enough to do so - His view of the differences in the political parties ... and the differences of the federal vs provincial versions of these Parties - How, in preparation for a provincial election, we should look at our current MLA's and their past 4years to determine what we are looking for in an MLA for the next 4years. - How we should dig into and scrutinize each Parties Platform, which the public can online **see below links** - And we address some of the issues coming up in this campaign, like: Site C Dam, Political Party Donations, Trickle Down Economics, Daycare, - I also learn about Populism and how this is used in politics (eg, Daycare is a "populous promise") ... and much more. Thanks for listening & I hope you enjoy! *If you like what you hear and you think it’s important, please share it with as many people as you can… hopefully we can all become a little more aware and involved.* – Until Next time… Stay Curious – CJ 🙂 ***Party Platforms*** BC Greens Party Platform BC Liberal Party Platform BC Liberal Party – Vancouver Island Platform BC NDP Party Platform Buy us a Coffee $5... a Beer $8... or some Time, Energy or Equipment $$ - Many thanks for all the Support!! http://www.governthis.ca http://www.facebook.com/governthis twitter: @WeGovernThis *SHOW NOTES ... to come

Duration:01:35:22