The Bulwark Podcast

Trump's madman antics got him into a game of chicken with Iran, but he's up against people who are even crazier than he is. And he is not likely to get a deal with Tehran that is any better than Obama's nuclear agreement—which Trump called the worst deal in the world. Plus, the Virginia win is another reminder that Dems can effectively play hardball, Kevin Warsh is looking like an alarming pick for the Fed, the media coverage of the mass shooting in Shreveport was almost non-existent, MAGA is obsessed with Mamdani, Sam and Tim have new Cabinet rankings, and is there a way to stop Kushner from making deals with Sharia law countries? Sam Stein joins Tim Miller. show notes Catherine on Warsh failing the big test in his confirmation hearingWill Saletan on the latest anti-MAMDANI billJonathan on the national media largely ignoring the mass shooting in LouisianaTim, Sam, and Sommer on Candace vs. LoomerTim on the Nuggets pod, CSGBulwark LiveTheBulwark.com/Events https://www.Harrys.com/THEBULWARKLearn a new language and get up to 60% off your subscription at Babbel.com/BULWARK

Trump keeps jawboning the markets to try to manage the fallout from the war on Iran, but we have yet to see the full economic impact of his foreign policy misadventure. Oil and gas facilities in the Gulf have been critically damaged and will take years to repair—which will inevitably lead to higher fuel prices. And countries are stockpiling commodities and products like fertilizer, which will also feed inflation. Plus, a new book on the social and economic travails of modern American men. The Ringer's Jordan Ritter Conn and Bloomberg's Tracy Alloway join Tim Miller. show notes Jordan's new book, "American Men"Tracy's podcast, "Odd Lots""Road from Raqqa," Jordan's book about two Syrian brothers The NYT story on the Syrian billionaires and their business deals with the Trump family Jordan's reporting on the heartbeat of resistance in Minneapolis Bulwark LiveTheBulwark.com/Eventstrustandwill.com/BULWARK

Just hang tight: Trump is super close to a deal with an enemy that he handed all the leverage to. Absolutely do not read his steady supply of hollow threats as him begging Iran for a face-saving off-ramp. Meanwhile, back in reality, Iran too can see how desperate Trump is, the war is helping China feel emboldened, and some of our closest post-WWII allies think Beijing is more dependable than the U.S. under Trump. Plus, Hegseth has chosen an ideal time to pick a fight with the secretary of the Army, numerous officials at the FBI are alarmed by Kash's alleged re alarmed by Kash's alleged alcohol-induced absences, kudos to Ossoff for the way he talked about corruption and kleptocracy, and more Vance-splaining from the newbie Catholic Veep. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes YouTubeSubstackJVL on the "Trump Madman Theory' of the stock marketLauren on the Dems preparing for a potential midterm-year SCOTUS vacancyTim's 2020 piece on Joe DiGenova Images of the Poodle Room, Kash's alleged hangout in VegasBulwark LiveTheBulwark.com/Eventshttps://www.Ridge.com/THEBULWARK

The U.S. and Israel started dropping bombs on Iran because the regime, amid mass street protests, appeared to be in a weakened state. But the regime has now ended up with a much stronger hand: It's proven its leverage over the global economy with the Strait of Hormuz, and under Trump's offer, Iran will get a huge infusion of cash to rebuild its ballistic missiles program and fund its proxy terror groups. At the same time, Trump has made the United States look like a rogue state—while spending billions for a deal he could have got without a war. Plus, Israelis are likely not happy, the Gulf states realize America can't protect them from Iran's drones, Cuba is readying to be next, Dems should make clear they are the anti-war party now, Trump is fighting his demons from his first term, and JD has a radical and un-American world view. Ben Rhodes joins Tim Miller for the holiday weekend pod. show notes "Pod Save the World""All We Say: The Battle for American Identity: A History in 15 Speeches"Bulwark LiveTheBulwark.com/EventsTim's playlistBloodFlow7.com/THEBULWARKziprecruiter.com/BULWARK

From Trump's sacrilegious use of Jesus, to his massively corrupt pardon scheme, and his desire to plaster his name on every federal building and institution, this country has never had such a bad president. The Dems need to plan now how they will do oversight and also keep his loyalists from helping him cheat in the midterms. Plus, Hegseth really doesn't know his Scripture, Trump is turning America's 250th birthday into a party for himself, and RFK has really got a thing about dead animals. Amanda Carpenter joins Tim Miller. show notes Protect Democracy's websiteProPublica's reporting on Trump's effort to "take over" the midtermsJVL on driving the stake through the heart of Trumpismhttps://www.wildalaskan.com/BULWARK

From Trump's sacrilegious use of Jesus, to his massively corrupt pardon scheme, and his desire to plaster his name on every federal building and institution, this country has never had such a bad president. The Dems need to plan now how they will do oversight and also keep his loyalists from helping him cheat in the midterms. Plus, Hegseth really doesn't know his Scripture, Trump is turning America's 250th birthday into a party for himself, and RFK has really got a thing about dead animals. Amanda Carpenter joins Tim Miller. show notes Protect Democracy's websiteProPublica's reporting on Trump's effort to "take over" the midtermsJVL on driving the stake through the heart of Trumpismhttps://www.wildalaskan.com/BULWARK

The Irish are protesting in the streets over the price of fuel, Qatar's GDP is plummeting, and heating bills are skyrocketing in France. And today, every world leader and every CEO of every major corporation is having to address the consequences of this war of choice on Iran—and Trump couldn't care less. Instead, he's working on a new distraction to get the media to talk about something besides his and Bibi's catastrophic error. But European leaders are finally starting to hit back against Trump, and Xi is trolling him on a genius level. Plus, Vance can't stop making a fool of himself, a debate over the merits of Europe v. the United States, and a healthy serving of fresh British insults to try on for size. Alastair Campbell joins Tim Miller. show notes YouTubeSubstackAlastair's podcast, "The Rest Is Politics" Alastair's recent interview with Zelensky TheBulwark.com/EventsGet 15% off OneSkin with the code BULWARK at https://www.oneskin.co/BULWARK #oneskinpod

The Iranian regime may be wounded, but it’s likely to seek revenge for the war at some point, maybe even through sleeper cells in the United States. And with a second round of peace negotiations potentially in the works, Iran could rake in billions in return for pausing its nuclear program. On the more uplifting side, the election news out of Hungary has feel-good shades of 1989, and is a reminder that reality and facts can get in the way of a stubborn authoritarian. Plus, Tim on Trump's Jesus post and how he's losing political allies by the minute. Michael Weiss once again joins Tim Miller. show notes: Michael's SubstackTheBulwark.com/Eventslivestream WednesdayCathy on how the Iran war looks from Russia

Orbán’s loss in Hungary was so overwhelming he couldn’t cheat his way out of it. But the decisive defeat for both Putin and authoritarianism may also suggest that the vibes they are a changin’. For instance, at home, Trump had to take down his Jesus post because of the backlash from across the political spectrum. People can see he’s flailing on the war and the economy. Plus, Vance has the stink of a loser, Dems can learn some campaigning tricks from Peter Magyar, the Melania-Epstein mystery continues, Trump and Marco are likely to regret those images from the UFC fight, and The Bulwark remains Team Pope Leo. Bill Kristol joins special guest host, Sarah Longwell. show notes This week's Focus Group pod with sad, mad GOP base votersBill's "Bulwark on Sunday" with Sarah MatthewsMonday's "Morning Shots," with David Baer from BudapestPre-order Sarah’s book, How to Eat an Elephant, coming in September!joindeleteme.com/BULWARK

No one was really asking about Melania’s ties to Epstein. But after her surprise White House statement to the press on Thursday, the questions are flowing—particularly because a former Brazilian model who moved in both Trump and Epstein circles is posting threats against the First Lady on social media. Tim and Jane break it all down. Plus, Melania does not speak or read English very well, Trump is furious about Tucker & co.’s opposition to the Iran war, Vance’s motives for converting to Catholicism are disgusting and unchristian, and why would Iran permit Saudi-paid Jared to participate in the Islamabad peace talks? Jane Coaston joins Tim Miller for the holiday weekend pod. show notes JVL and Catherine LIVE on the not-so-great economic news Tim's deep dive on Oscar Romero was in this episode Tix on sale soon for The Bulwark LIVE in San Diego on May 20 and in Los Angeles on May 21Follow "Bulwark Takes" for breaking news over the weekendTim's playlist

No one was really asking about Melania’s ties to Epstein. But after her surprise White House statement to the press on Thursday, the questions are flowing—particularly because a former Brazilian model who moved in both Trump and Epstein circles is posting threats against the First Lady on social media. Tim and Jane break it all down. Plus, Melania does not speak or read English very well, Trump is furious about Tucker & co.’s opposition to the Iran war, Vance’s motives for converting to Catholicism are disgusting and unchristian, and why would Iran permit Saudi-paid Jared to participate in the Islamabad peace talks? Jane Coaston joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. Jane Coaston joins Tim Miller for the holiday weekend pod. show notes JVL and Catherine LIVE on the not-so-great economic news Tim's deep dive on Oscar Romero was in this episode Tix on sale soon for The Bulwark LIVE in San Diego on May 20 and in Los Angeles on May 21Follow "Bulwark Takes" for breaking news over the weekendTim's playlist

Putin puppet Viktor Orbán—whose nepotistic and corrupt government in Hungary has become the model for the far-right in America and Europe—is facing his first serious election challenge in 16 years. It turns out that voters get mad when a president steals from the public and tanks the economy. Vance tried to bolster Orbán with Kremlin-esque fake propaganda, but the energy may be with the grassroots campaign of Peter Magyar. Plus, Vance's arrogance and ignorance about Ukraine, Trump is still coming up short on his Iran war goals, the administration made some weird threats against Pope Leo, and Kari Lake is still a loser. Anne Applebaum joins Tim Miller. show notes Anne's piece on Hungary, "The First Post-Reality Political Campaign"Thursday's "Morning Shots"Giselle Donnelly's Bulwark piece on how Trump's war is impacting global navigationAnne's book, "Twilight of Democracy" Anne's "Autocracy, Inc." in paperback Anne's book recommendation, "Furious Minds: The Making of the Maga New Right"Letters from Leo on Substack

Putin puppet Viktor Orbán—whose nepotistic and corrupt government in Hungary has become the model for the far-right in America and Europe—is facing his first serious election challenge in 16 years. It turns out that voters get mad when a president steals from the public and tanks the economy. Vance tried to bolster Orbán with Kremlin-esque fake propaganda, but the energy may be with the grassroots campaign of Peter Magyar. Plus, Vance's arrogance and ignorance about Ukraine, Trump is still coming up short on his Iran war goals, the administration made some weird threats against Pope Leo, and Kari Lake is still a loser. Anne Applebaum joins Tim Miller. show notes Anne's piece on Hungary, "The First Post-Reality Political Campaign"Thursday's "Morning Shots"Giselle Donnelly's Bulwark piece on how Trump's war is impacting global navigationAnne's book, "Twilight of Democracy" Anne's "Autocracy, Inc." in paperback Anne's book recommendation, "Furious Minds: The Making of the Maga New Right"Letters from Leo on Substack

Putin puppet Viktor Orbán—whose nepotistic and corrupt government in Hungary has become the model for the far-right in America and Europe—is facing his first serious election challenge in 16 years. It turns out that voters get mad when a president steals from the public and tanks the economy. Vance tried to bolster Orbán with Kremlin-esque fake propaganda, but the energy may be with the grassroots campaign of Peter Magyar. Plus, Vance's arrogance and ignorance about Ukraine, Trump is still coming up short on his Iran war goals, the administration made some weird threats against Pope Leo, and Kari Lake is still a loser. Anne Applebaum joins Tim Miller. show notes Anne's piece on Hungary, "The First Post-Reality Political Campaign"Thursday's "Morning Shots"Giselle Donnelly's Bulwark piece on how Trump's war is impacting global navigationAnne's book, "Twilight of Democracy" Anne's "Autocracy, Inc." in paperback Anne's book recommendation, "Furious Minds: The Making of the Maga New Right"Letters from Leo on Substack

Trump showed that he is completely unequipped to be a war leader. He threatened crimes against humanity, and not only let a foe prove it could take our punches, but also inflict economic pain on the global economy as well. Indeed, with the closing of the Strait of Hormuz, Iran looks to have emerged from the war with a stronger hand. We also don't know how much Trump's financial ties to Gulf countries are influencing his wild and erratic handling of the war. And if this military operation was just about Israel's national security, then that should have been explained to the American people from the start. Plus, the threat an Orbán loss would pose to MAGA, the key redistricting election in Virginia, and how Dems would prioritize oversight if they win back the House. David French and Rep. Suhas Subramanyam join Tim Miller. show notes TNL live last night after Trump foldedWednesday's "Morning Shots" Tim's debate over the war with Rep. Josh GottheimerTix on sale soon for The Bulwark LIVE in San Diego on May 20 and in Los Angeles on May 21

AI poses real existential threats. The global economy is dependent on it, it's being deployed in war zones and used for domestic surveillance, and it's increasingly integrated into our medical and financial sectors. But the guy sitting atop the world's biggest AI company, Sam Altman, is regarded by some colleagues as a liar, driven by a quest for power, and someone with sociopathic tendencies. When Biden was in the White House, Altman was worried about the limited regulation of AI; under Trump, he's loving that the shackles have come off. Plus, Tim on how the Dems need to get the politics of the Iran war right: Welcome converts into the fold, and prioritize American interests. Ronan Farrow and Andrew Marantz join Tim Miller to discuss their New Yorker piece on OpenAI’s Sam Altman. show notes SubstackYouTubeRonan's and Andrew's story in The New YorkerTim's interview with Karen Hao on the unchecked rise of Altman 3DayBlinds.com/THEBULWARK

In threatening to bomb Iran to smithereens, Trump seems to be motivated by a combination of frustration, vengeance, and wanting to look like a tough guy. But he also has a God complex. Destroying the country's bridges and its entire energy infrastructure has nothing to do with nukes—and everything to do with war crimes. Plus, the soldiers and airmen who carried out the daring rescue mission over the weekend hail from the "woke and weak" era of the U.S. military, Trump should be impeached, his family has ties with military contracts involved in the war effort, and there are rumors of at least one SCOTUS retirement this year. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes: Monday's "Morning Shots"Lauren on the Democrats feeling electoral hopium The UK's Andrew Neil on the power of the Strait of Hormuz v the Bomb

The pro-Iran war hawks keep crowing about how U.S. military prowess is supposedly striking fear in Beijing and Moscow. But what’s really happening is that Trump is doing exactly what China and Russia hoped he’d do. Beijing has wanted the U.S. out of the Western Pacific and Putin, of course, wants NATO wrecked. Our major allies are scrambling to form new economic and military relationships, and America is likely to be very lonely in the world with only a few stooges to count as friends. This is what ending our role as a global superpower would look like. Plus, the U.S. is unable to win the war at a cost that is acceptable to Americans, Trump is taking a cue from Putin by bombing civilian infrastructure, and blaming NATO for not being willing to fight for the Strait of Hormuz is absurd when the world’s most powerful navy doesn't seem to want to do it either. Bob Kagan joins Tim Miller for the holiday weekend pod. show notes Bob's recent piece in The AtlanticTim's bimbofied livestream"Foreign Policy" piece on South Korea that Bob referencedFollow "Bulwark Takes" for breaking news over the weekendTim's playlist

Trump fired Pam Bondi, maybe the most destructive AG in the history of the United States, because she wasn't able to magically and lawlessly jail his political enemies. On Wednesday night, he told Americans that gas prices would naturally go down when he was finished with his war—much like the way he told the country in March 2020 that COVID would just go away. In reality, China may end up in control of the Strait of Hormuz and with freight passage paid with the Chinese Yuan. America and the world are paying for the incompetent (and petrified) advisers Trump has surrounded himself with. Plus, POTUS threatened war crimes on national television, the Iranian diaspora bet on the wrong horse, and who will be the next Barbie to get the ax? Susan Glasser joins Tim Miller. show notes: Susan's column on Trump's Wednesday addressSusan on Trump breaking up with NATO

The war-induced global oil shock is already pushing consumers and businesses to new pain points because of higher fuel prices. Airlines are cutting back routes and ticket prices have started to spike. Expect road trips to be canceled, lifestyles to change, and more people to work from home. Trump is trying to deflect blame onto Iran and NATO, but the world will focus its rage on him and his war of choice. Plus, stagflation may be in the offing, tariffs made people poorer, both Kristi and her husband have unnatural ideas about what the body can do, and Scranton Mayor Paige Cognetti is taking on one of the most corrupt inside-traders in Congress. Paige Cognetti and Josh Barro join Tim Miller. show notes YouTubeSubstackTim's livestream Thursday at 8 ETJosh's SubstackCognetti's campaign website Josh's "Serious Trouble" pod "Central Air" podcast Scranton's "The Office" 5K on May 2