
Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast
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Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Dan Labbe, Scott Patsko, Ashley Bastock and special guests on cleveland.com
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Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Dan Labbe, Scott Patsko, Ashley Bastock and special guests on cleveland.com
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@clevelanddotcom
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English
Email:
sports@cleveland.com
Episodes
Is sticking with Joe Flacco the right decision by the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!
9/15/2025
The Browns are 0-2 and coming off a brutal offensive performance on Sunday in a 41-17 loss to Baltimore. Quarterback Joe Flacco didn't perform well and it has some folks wondering if a change might be in order. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the decision to stick with Flacco and if they think it's the right move by Kevin Stefanski. Then they talk about some of the other things that went wrong on Sunday, including poor special teams play that put their defense in a bad position. They also talk about the outlook for the team now that they're 0-2 and how the Browns can try to keep things from going off the rails. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:40:19
Should the Browns stick with Joe Flacco? Browns postgame podcast
9/14/2025
The Browns were blown out in Baltimore and now there are questions about what they should do at quarterback. Head coach Kevin Stefanski supported starting quarterback Joe Flacco after a difficult day in his return to Baltimore. Is Stefanski doing the right thing? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the quarterback decision and if sticking with Flacco is the right move. They also talk about the report regarding Shedeur Sanders telling the Ravens to not draft him. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to talk about what he saw. What should the Browns do at quarterback? What went wrong on offense and special teams? Is there reason for hope? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:01:02:34
Browns at Ravens: Picks, preview and scouting report
9/11/2025
The Browns head to Baltimore for their Week 2 game against the Ravens. Both teams are 0-1 and both teams are desperate for a win. We get into all angles of this matchup in the Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Ravens scouting report and makes his pick. Dan comes back and digs up a couple of prop bets he likes for the game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:56:15
Are the Browns making the right choice at kicker? + Joe Flacco's return to Baltimore and running back Dylan Sampson
9/10/2025
Joe Flacco's return to Baltimore is the big storyline this week as the Browns take on the Ravens Sunday at M&T Bank Stadium. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Flacco's return and how he'll handle the emotions of being back in Baltimore. Could the Browns rally behind him to get him a win? Then they talk about the team's decision to stick with kicker Andre Szmyt and whether they think the Browns are doing the right thing. Could it cost them if they keep things close in Baltimore? Then Dan caught up with running back Dylan Sampson in the locker room on Wednesday. Listen to his interview for a story that will go up on Thursday. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:32:23
Browns head into Ravens week, breaking down the Bengals film + digging into NFL Draft QBs
9/9/2025
We're getting you ready for Ravens week on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk while also looking back on Sunday and way ahead to the NFL Draft. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start this edition of the podcast by sharing their thoughts ahead of the Browns' matchup in Baltimore. They talk about Joe Flacco's return to his old stomping grounds and if they believe the Browns can pull an upset. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over what he saw watching the film from the Browns' loss to Cincinnati on Sunday. Lastly, Tim Bielik joins Lance and Dan to talk about a few of the quarterbacks who could be in this upcoming NFL Draft and their thoughts after Week 2 of the college football season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:01:32:00
How are the Browns balancing trying to win and playing young players? Hey, Mary Kay!
9/8/2025
The Browns appear to be straddling the line between rebuilding and trying to win and it showed on Sunday, when they played well enough to win but made enough inexperienced mistakes to lose. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the Browns’ kicking situation and what they’ll do after Andre Szmyt missed an extra point and a go-ahead field goal. They also talk about what they can take away from Sunday’s loss to the Bengals and how much of it they credit to how Browns vs. Bengals games always seem to go. They answer questions about the performance of the secondary and where the Browns and discuss a need for more playmaking from the safety position. They also talk about the return of running back Quinshon Judkins and what to expect from him once he is on the field. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:44:17
Is it panic time for the Browns or are there things to build on? Postgame podcast
9/7/2025
The Browns lost to the Bengals, 17-16, on Sunday, turning the ball over twice and missing two kicks, including a potential game-winning field goal. So, is it panic time for the Browns or are there positives they can build on even though they are off to an 0-1 start. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe talked about the loss on a live postgame podcast on Sunday night. They discussed the kicking situation and some of the positives and negatives to take away from this first game. Are the Browns destined to lose a few more in a row now? Will they turn a dominant performance by the defense in the second half into some wins?They cover everything on their postgame podcast. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:56:48
Browns vs. Bengals preview and picks + Joe Thomas on his expectations and more
9/5/2025
The Browns open their season on Sunday against the Bengals at Huntington Bank Field in Cleveland. It's a game where both teams are eager to get off to a strong start. In our first Orange and Brown Talk podcast preview of the season, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look at the big storylines going into the game, including the health of Myles Garrett, and they discuss their outlook for the season. Then Hall of Fame left tackle Joe Thomas joins the podcast to talk about his expectations for the Browns, Dawand Jones at left tackle and the Browns' culture. Lance Reisland gives his scouting report on the Bengals and makes his pick. Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for the game before Football Insider subscribers offer up their season predictions. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:01:16:03
What is a realistic expectation for Joe Flacco in his Browns return?
9/3/2025
Joe Flacco is back with the Browns and many fans are hoping he can recapture the magic that made him a cult hero here in 2023. Can Flacco, at age 40, bring back memories of that 5-game run to end the season and push the Browns to the playoffs or are people asking too much of him two seasons later? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Flacco and whether he'll take this team to unexpected heights or be on the bench sooner rather than later. They also talk about the matchup between the Browns secondary and Bengals receivers highlight Sunday's Week 1 game. Then they talk about Isaiah Bond and if the Browns can unlock his speed in a way they have been unable to with other fast receivers. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:27:34
What area of the Browns are people overlooking in 2025? Hey, Mary Kay!
9/2/2025
Week 1 is officially here and that means a new Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from Football Insider subscribers on Tuesday's edition of the podcast. They start by talking about an area of the Browns that is being overlooked as national pundits talk about the team and what they could do this season. They also talk about reasonable expectations for the first four games of the season.Then they answer questions about Joe Flacco, Quinshon Judkins and the running game and how far away the Browns are to getting back into contention. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:46:47
Most likely Browns rookie to succeed, who will leave us speechless and more Browns superlatives for 2025
8/29/2025
The Orange and Brown Talk podcast is positive vibes on Friday's episode. Well, mostly positive vibes. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start this episode by discussing the Cowboys trade of Micah Parsons to the Packers and if it makes them rethink the Browns' approach to Myles Garrett's trade request. Then they turn their attention to the 2025 roster and attach superlatives to players. Who is the most likely to break out? Which rookie is most likely to succeed? Who will make their first Pro Bowl? Who will leave us speechless? + more. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:01:16:30
Does the Browns signing Bailey Zappe tell us anything about their quarterback room?
8/27/2025
The Browns brought back quarterback Bailey Zappe on their practice squad, adding a fourth quarterback to a group that includes Joe Flacco, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders. Does Zappe's addition tell us anything? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe think it might and they get into it on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss Zappe's addition and why the quarterback it might impact the most is Shedeur Sanders. They even ask the question: Who is more likely to start this season: Zappe or Deshaun Watson? Then they talk about the addition of running back Raheim 'Rocket' Sanders and if it has anything to do with the ongoing Quinshon Judkins situation. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:25:06
Kenny Pickett traded, Dustin Hopkins cut and more reaction to the Browns' initial 53-man roster
8/26/2025
The Browns have a new backup quarterback and a new kicker. Those were the highlights of their initial roster trim to 53. They traded quarterback Kenny Pickett on Monday night and cut kicker Dustin Hopkins on Tuesday, meaning Dillon Gabriel is now the backup quarterback and Andre Szmyt is the kicker. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the initial 53-man roster on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talked about the decision to hand the No. 2 QB job to a rookie and why the Browns made the decision to move on from Hopkins. They also talked about some other decisions the team made on their initial 53. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:29:52
Shedeur Sanders conspiracy theories and Browns roster decisions
8/25/2025
Conspiracy theories are flying about the Browns and their treatment of Shedeur Sanders. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start during the Monday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Have they ever seen anything like this with a Browns quarterback? Is there any legitimacy to it? Have they handled the situation with Sanders the right way? Then they turn their attention to roster cuts. Mary Kay and Dan made very different choices with their wide receiver room projection, so they discuss the decision between Diontae Johnson and Gage Larvadain. Is it all about performance or is there more to it? Lastly, they discuss the situation with Quinhson Judkins' roster spot and how the Browns will handle Dustin Hopkins and the kicker position. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:49:56
What should we make of performances by Shedeur Sanders, Dillon Gabriel vs. Rams: Postgame podcast
8/23/2025
The Browns wrapped up the preseason by beating the Rams on Saturday at Huntington Bank Field. The result doesn't matter, of course, but the quarterback play does. Rookie Dillon Gabriel continued to push for the No. 2 quarterback job while fellow rookie Shedeur Sanders struggled and was visibly frustrated after he didn't get to run a two-minute drill at the end of the game. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the game in their postgame podcast, starting with audio from their postgame video and then diving into the performances from Gabriel and Sanders. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:27:48
Shedeur Sanders embraces the spotlight and the Browns prepare for their dress rehearsal game
8/21/2025
On Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Dan Labbe, Mary Kay Cabot, and Ashley Bastock talk Shedeur Sanders' and his candid response to Dillon Gabriel's entertainer vs. competitor comments, his adjustment to a backup role and how he's keeping things light in the quarterback room. They also discuss the upcoming preseason game, highlighting what they hope to see from the starters, including Joe Flacco's offensive efficiency and the performance of the defensive line. They speculate on fan reactions to Gabriel and Sanders and debate whether Kenny Pickett's injury might impact the backup quarterback decision. Plus, they look at the Browns' offensive line and a surprising revelation about Rams quarterback Dresser Winn. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:28:47
Myles Garrett's speeding fallout, looming roster decisions and approach to Saturday's dress rehearsal
8/20/2025
On Wednesday's epsiode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe, Mary Kay Cabot,and Ashley Bastock talk Myles Garrett, QB decisions and more. Myles Garrett's responsde to speeding ticket: They discuss Myles Garrett's response to questions and debate whether he handled the situation appropriately. Which quarterbacks will play on Saturday: They look ahead to the Browns' final preseason game against the Rams and which quarterbacks will play. Injury Updates: What's the latest on Denzel Ward's status and Cedric Tillman's thumb injury. Roster Moves: What does the Jowon Briggs trade to the Jets tell us? Receiver Room: A breakdown of the Browns' current wide receiver situation, including the emergence of Isaiah Bond and Jamari Thrash. Does Diontae Johnson have a chance to make it? JOK's presence: Thoughts on seeing JOK at practice and the positive impact he has on the team's morale and young players. Segments: Introduction (0:00-1:05) Myles Garrett's speeding ticket (1:05-13:15) Which quarterbacks might play on Saturday? (13:15-17:02) Injury updates and roster moves (17:02-21:40) Receiver room discussion (21:40-27:52) JOK sideline presence (27:52-31:13) Conclusion (31:13-31:32) Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:34:29
How long will Joe Flacco hold onto the Browns starting quarterback job?
8/19/2025
On Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into everything going on with the Browns as they prepare for their final preseason game. Joe Flacco as Starting Quarterback Flacco's opportunity: They discuss Flacco's role as the starting quarterback, highlighting concerns about his age and the potential for turnovers. Kenny Pickett's future: They also talk about the Browns’ interest in Kenny Pickett. Isaiah Bond's Legal Issues Controversial Player Decisions: The episode addresses Bond's legal troubles and how the team is navigating the situation. Is it time to hear from GM Andrew Berry again? Injury Update on Denzel Ward Impact on the Team: How would it impact the Browns if Ward misses time? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:39:47
Joe Flacco wins the Browns’ QB competition: Now what? + Isaiah Bond signs
8/18/2025
It was a newsy Monday and in the latest episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the latest developments surrounding the Browns. Joe Flacco Named Starting Quarterback: The Browns officially named Flacco as their starting QB. Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan discuss the evolution of the four-way quarterback competition, particularly how Kenny Pickett's injury influenced the decision, and analyze why Flacco was the choice. Rookie Quarterback Performance: They get into Dillon Gabriel's preseason performance against the Eagles and how it showcased his poise and decision-making. They compare Gabriel with Shedeur Sanders and address the challenges the Browns face in evaluating rookie quarterbacks with potentially limited regular season snaps. Isaiah Bond Signs with the Browns: The Browns signed Isaiah Bond to a fully guaranteed three-year deal. They cover the factors leading to this decision and the background work the Browns did, Bond's physical traits and how he fits into the Browns' receiving corps, along with the potential risks and rewards of his signing. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:49:03
Did Dillon Gabriel make his case on Saturday against the Eagles? Postgame podcast
8/16/2025
The Browns won their preseason game on Saturday against the Eagles, 22-13, and Dillon Gabriel was efficient in his first start of the preseason. Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe broke down all elements of the game on the Orange and Brown Talk live postgame podcast. They started by discussing the play of Gabriel and his efficiency running the offense and what happened on the pick-six he threw and the fumbled handoff. Did Gabriel quiet some of the noise around the quarterback battle? Then they talked about the continued strong play of the Browns defensive line after two dominating joint practices against the Eagles. Will the defensive line allow them to win more games than people project this season? They also discuss depth at the wide receiver and cornerback positions and how the Browns might make their final roster decisions and who is on the bubble with cut-down day getting closer. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:01:04:17