The Best Ever CRE Show

Matt Faircloth breaks down how identifying and leaning into your “core genius” can dramatically accelerate your growth in commercial real estate. He explains that success isn’t about fitting a single mold, but about aligning your role with what you’re naturally wired to do and building a team around complementary strengths. By outlining four key roles—money, brain, hunter, and hammer—Matt shows how each personality contributes to scaling a business and why misalignment leads to bottlenecks. He also shares how focusing on just a small percentage of your highest-value activities can exponentially increase results and overall fulfillment. Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit https://m1.com/ for more info. Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Amanda Cruise interviews Heather Blankenship, who shares how she built a diversified portfolio across RV parks, mobile home parks, and multifamily over 15 years, starting as an owner-operator before scaling with a team. She explains why RV parks offer strong cash flow but require heavy operations, leading her to add more stable assets to balance her portfolio. Heather breaks down how RV parks have remained stable post-COVID due to drive-to demand and supply constraints, while also explaining the complexity of underwriting assets with multiple revenue streams and higher operational costs. She highlights the importance of aligning your investment strategy with your goals, whether that’s cash flow, tax benefits, or long-term stability. She also walks through a hybrid RV and mobile home park acquisition, where she increased occupancy through workforce housing demand and repositioned the asset for stronger performance. Her key takeaway is that one RV park can still be life-changing, but only if the asset type matches your desired level of involvement and long-term vision. Heather BlankenshipCurrent role: RV Park InvestorBased in: Florida Panhandle & TennesseeSay hi to them at: Instagram: @heatherblankenshipX3 website: www.heatherblankenship.com Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit https://m1.com/ for more info. Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr reveals why most educational content attracts the wrong crowd. Those who aren’t prepared or qualified to invest. Learn how to craft messages and lead magnets that filter out the unqualified and speak directly to prospects ready to take action. You'll discover the power of focusing on decision-stage content, like detailed zip code reports or market-specific data, that genuinely move the needle and cut through the noise. This targeted strategy is a game-changer for syndicators, fund managers, and anyone who wants to close deals faster with less wasted effort. Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit https://m1.com/ for more info. Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth has a conversation with Nicholas Lares as he shares his journey from tech at Amazon to transforming insurance through captive-style structures that align your interests directly with your coverage. You'll discover how ownership stakes in insurance pools can eliminate middlemen, reduce unnecessary costs, and align claims incentives so you're rewarded instead of penalized for good risk management. We break down how collective risk-sharing lowers premiums, generates profit shares, and even enables owners to self-insure smarter rather than relying on opaque, profit-driven insurance carriers. Nicholas Lares Current role: Principal and Founder of Insur3Tech Based in: Chicago, Illinois Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolas-lares-77a328169/ https://insur3tech.com/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit https://m1.com/ for more info. Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Amanda Cruise interviews Steve Taylor, who shares how a costly office lease signed just before the COVID-19 lockdowns pushed him to rethink how commercial space is marketed and monetized. After struggling to fill vacant space in London, he developed SoCommercial, a platform designed to let anyone list and monetize any size of commercial real estate, from full buildings to fractional spaces like desks or storage shelves. He explains the challenges of building a two-sided marketplace, emphasizing the difficulty of balancing supply (listers) and demand (lookers) while bootstrapping growth without major funding. Steve also discusses his “free-to-list” model, his belief in removing barriers for smaller landlords, and his long-term vision of creating a more flexible, inclusive commercial real estate ecosystem. Steve Taylor Current role: Principal Broker & Owner of Cornerstone Real Estate, LLC Based in: Greater Charlottesville Area Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cornerstonerealestate/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit https://m1.com/ for more info. Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr breaks down why absolute metrics alone can lead to perverse incentives and how pairing them with ratio metrics can transform your business. You'll discover the critical difference between raw lead counts and quality indicators like lead-to-call ratios. Richard shares real-world examples from his thriving property fund, revealing how focusing on these ratios helped him raise over $12 million in just Q1, doubling previous months' results and setting new records. Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit https://m1.com/ for more info. Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr talks about how most entrepreneurs and investors overlook the simplest yet most powerful way to leverage AI organization. Revealing how meticulous systems and data management are the secret weapons that turn AI agents from a futuristic fantasy into your daily operational powerhouse. Discover how top firms are transforming their productivity with just a few tweaks: from recording every internal meeting and keeping your CRM hyper-updated, to organizing your data in Markdown instead of Word. Richard shares compelling insights from his own experiments like how understanding risk discussions boosts deal closure rates by revealing what truly moves investors and how automation can turn chaos into a strategic advantage. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ash Patel & Amanda Cruise talk to Phil Boggia. He shares his unexpected transition from 14 years in federal law enforcement to multi-million dollar resort investments. Discover why he left residential real estate behind, how he mastered commercial retail with triple-net leases, and why resorts with wedding venues and golf courses are his latest obsession. Phil reveals the secrets behind his low-basis acquisitions, layered revenue streams, and how to structure deals that weather market swings without losing sleep. This episode is perfect for passive investors seeking reliable income streams beyond traditional real estate, operators looking to diversify into niche hospitality assets, or entrepreneurs eager to understand how to leverage distressed assets in high-growth sectors. If you're tired of the volatility and want to learn how to build a long-term, diversified portfolio with real scale, this episode is your blueprint. Phil Boggia Current role: Founder, Managing Partner of Black Bell Capital, Acquisitions & Director of Investor Development of Accountable Equity Investor Community Based in: Westwood, New Jersey Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-boggia-38a284278/ https://accountableequity.com/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit https://m1.com/ for more info. Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth sits down with Marcin Drozdz, a capital markets expert with over $3 billion in deals under his belt. Drozdz reveals the proven strategies that enable him and his clients to raise 8- and 9-figure capital consistently. The key takeaways include learning how to create compelling messaging that effectively showcases your unique advantages, discovering the core components of modern investor funnels for sustainable lead generation to create a predictable lead pipeline, understanding how to package your "unfair advantage" using proven frameworks and convert high-net-worth prospects without resorting to high-pressure sales, and gaining expert insights on what works and what doesn't in today's tighter capital markets and how to position yourself for significant growth, thus navigating tight markets. Marcin breaks down the essential elements for building a lead engine and achieving exponential growth in capital markets. Marcin Drozdz Current role: Managing Director of M1 Real Capital Corporation Based in: Scottsdale, Arizona Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcindrozdz/ https://www.youtube.com/@therealmarcindrozdz Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit https://m1.com/ for more info. Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr talks to Jerry Jones about how most investors underestimate how challenging it is to raise a blind pool fund until they try. Jerry Jones, a seasoned real estate investor with over $11 million raised in syndications, shares the unconventional strategies he's discovering to crack the code. In this episode, Jerry reveals why traditional lead magnets like books are losing their punch and what to do instead in a world where people's attention spans are shrinking. Jerry Jones Current role: President, Principal Broker of Pikes Northwest Inc Based in: Salem, Oregon Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerry-jones-pikes-nw/ https://pikesnw.com Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth talks to John Chang, where he reveals why the recent slowdown in job creation isn’t just a blip but a signal of deeper underlying trends. You'll discover how headwinds like rising energy costs, war-related uncertainty, and shifts in policy impact real estate markets, especially multifamily. We break down the hidden consequences of slower employment, dwindling construction, and the critical importance of supply-demand dynamics in different regions. Plus, John shares forward-looking insights into how markets may become the prime playground for sharp investors willing to take calculated risks now, betting on long-term recovery and growth. John Chang Current role: Senior Vice President, National Director Research & Advisory Services of Marcus & Millichap Based in: Phoenix, Arizona Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnchang/ https://www.marcusmillichap.com Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this interview, Ash Patel speaks with Matt McGovern about the behind-the-scenes creation of his landmark project: transforming a 200,000-square-foot historic tower and theater complex in Topeka into a multifaceted masterpiece. Matt shares his strategic approach, detailing how he identified unique value-add opportunities and leveraged government incentives, including tax credits and opportunity zone funds. He explains how he structured deals that integrate development with ongoing operational revenue. Furthermore, Matt reveals the strategic mindset that enabled him to creatively negotiate, buy out partners, and align his construction background with ambitious real estate goals, all without relying on outside investors. Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr interviews Justin Spillers and Chris Lopez about genuine investor interest. Imagine transforming your pitch into a compelling, repeatable machine that generates actual capital almost effortlessly. In this episode, you will see a behind-the-scenes strategy that helped secure over 350 investor calls in just nine months, from perfecting four-minute pitches to leveraging paid ads that attracted high-net-worth individuals. Discover the exact steps to make fundraising scalable, strategic, and downright effective. Justin Spillers and Chris Lopez Current role: Chris Lopez Founder of Curtis St. Media Co-Founder & CMO of Property Llama Justin Spillers Partner & Manager of Real Estate Alpha Based in: Chris Lopez - Denver Metropolitan Area Justin Spillers - Minster, Ohio Where to find them: Justin Spillers https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinspillers/\ realestatealpha.io/ Chris Lopez https://www.linkedin.com/in/christaylorlopez/ propertyllama.com Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth interviews Kevin Robinson as they break down actionable tactics like analyzing zip codes with a focus on local amenities and community trends, building relationships on the ground, and employing strategic financing options like the Homestead Loan methods that allow him to grow his portfolio without expensive bridge loans or hard money. You'll also learn why he avoids traditional LLC strategies in favor of a simple, practical approach perfect for most investors who are just starting out or owning a handful of properties. Why does this matter? Because most investors are playing a high-stakes game with little understanding of market fluctuations or risk, often chasing short-term home runs at the expense of consistent, long-term wealth. Kevin shows that disciplined, incremental growth hitting singles and doubles, not home runs leads to sustainable wealth and community transformation. His philosophy emphasizes that real estate is a tool to lift people and neighborhoods today, not decades from now. Kevin Robinson Current role: Executive Council Member at CEOWORLD magazine, Founder & CEO of KAYJAY Consulting Based in: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krobins2/ https://www.kayrmotivates.com/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a conversation with Pascal Wagner, Brandon Martini unveils a groundbreaking approach to income investing. While many associate this field solely with real estate or conventional bonds, Martini's private credit fund offers a high-yield, consistent return by strategically financing the training of the next generation of pilots. Amid a significant pilot shortage, this unique strategy allows investors to potentially earn up to 19% annually, with monthly payouts, directly supporting training programs for thousands of aspiring pilots. Martini shares the origin of his fund, which he built from the ground up in 2020. It's revolutionizing private lending by filling a previously unmet, critical funding gap for flight schools. Brandon Martini Current role: Co-Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder of Stratus Financial Based in: Huntington Beach, California Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonmartini/ https://stratus.finance/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join hosts Ash Patel and Amanda Cruise as they interview Kris Bennett, who shares his journey from working in ministry and foreclosure to mastering the inner workings of real estate private equity. He covers the strategic roles of university funds and syndications, and delves into asset diversification across self-storage and flex space. Gain insider knowledge on the elements that define an attractive deal: infill locations, strong market fundamentals, and high-quality construction focused on retaining quality tenants. If you're curious how institutional owners approach lease terms, exit strategies, and financing structures, this conversation provides actionable frameworks and practical examples. Kris Bennett Current role: Chief Operating Officer - Flex Space Division at QC Capital, Founder / Managing Principal of Bennett Investments Based in: Charlotte Metro, North Carolina Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thekrisbennett/http://www.qccapitalgroup.com Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr breaks down why building and scaling your investor email list is the single most important driver of capital raising success. He explains that most operators struggle to raise more capital simply because their list isn’t large or qualified enough, and emphasizes that list growth should take priority over launching new products or funds. Richard walks through the full funnel—from generating reach through earned and paid media, to creating high-converting lead magnets, to nurturing prospects through email and content until they are ready to invest. He also shares actionable strategies for converting attention into investor calls, qualifying prospects, and using scarcity and consistency to close deals faster. Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Casmon Interviews Nicole Valenzuela about how the most successful investors know that strategic networking opens doors, but few realize how powerful it can be for scaling your real estate ventures into multi-million dollar opportunities. In this episode, multifamily expert Nicole Valenzuela reveals how targeted relationships and community involvement fueled her $14 million cannabis investment, ground-up developments, and multi-faceted real estate portfolio. Her journey from house hacking to developing multi-unit projects in Chicago unveils the concrete steps to overcome fears and leverage partnerships for exponential growth. Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth Interviews Jason Hartmann from Next Metro, who unveils his simple, highly efficient approach that’s delivered over 11,000 homes and attracted both private capital and institutional interest. This episode reveals how a focus on small, detached, single-story homes tailored to young professionals and retirees is creating a nearly recession-proof niche with massive growth potential. If you're looking to capitalize on a stable, high-growth segment of the rental market during uncertain times, this episode is essential listening. Josh’s straightforward, no-nonsense approach proves you don’t need to over-complicate to build a massive, scalable portfolio just clarity, discipline, and a focus on existing demand. Perfect for developers, investors, and entrepreneurs ready to harness the next wave of housing innovation. Josh Hartmann Current role: CEO & Board Director of NEXmetro Communities Based in: Greater Phoenix Area Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-hartmann-8a149911/ https://www.nexmetro.com/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pascal Wagner interviews Shane Pogue. He shares how investigative due diligence can reveal whether a sponsor is hiding debt, legal trouble, or even outright fraud, often hidden behind layers of LLCs and international jurisdiction. You’ll discover how to identify red flags like inconsistent income, suspicious business structures, or undisclosed legal battles that can spell disaster and how you can practically get started, even with a modest investment. Shane breaks down the often-overlooked aspects of legal background searches, property risk analysis, and the power of aggregate data to predict potential failures before you wire the funds. Pascal Wagner's interview with Shane Pogue explores the critical role of investigative due diligence in uncovering hidden risks associated with sponsors. Pogue details how to detect issues such as undisclosed debt, legal complications, or outright fraud, which are frequently concealed through complex layers of LLCs and international jurisdictions. Shane Pogue Current role: Founder of Aegis Risk Solutions and Investigations, Due Diligence Consultant at Fidelity Investments Based in: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-pogue-6b900a11a/ https://www.aegisrsi.com/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices