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Welcome to The Conditional Release Program, a podcast that delves into the netherworld of cults, crims and con artists. Who would have thought a spicy chest cough would turn everyone so completely mad? Our weekly show covers the conspiracy theorists that created a 'shadow pandemic' of political idiocy and violent ideation within the fringe of politics. From time to time we get our hands even dirtier with true crime deep dives. Jack is a seasoned expert in the true crime genre, having written and spoken extensively about Roger Rogerson, Stan 'the man' Smith and, of course, the Fine Cotton Fiasco. In various episodes he guides us through the dark underbelly of Australian crime in his trademark storytelling style. The world is getting weird and we are getting weird with it. Let's watch as democracy crumbles into a smouldering heap - and take note of the kids carrying the matches and the metho. Hosted by Jack the Insider and Joel Hill with an occasional rotation of guests that generally share our distaste toward the lunatic fringe.

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Welcome to The Conditional Release Program, a podcast that delves into the netherworld of cults, crims and con artists. Who would have thought a spicy chest cough would turn everyone so completely mad? Our weekly show covers the conspiracy theorists that created a 'shadow pandemic' of political idiocy and violent ideation within the fringe of politics. From time to time we get our hands even dirtier with true crime deep dives. Jack is a seasoned expert in the true crime genre, having written and spoken extensively about Roger Rogerson, Stan 'the man' Smith and, of course, the Fine Cotton Fiasco. In various episodes he guides us through the dark underbelly of Australian crime in his trademark storytelling style. The world is getting weird and we are getting weird with it. Let's watch as democracy crumbles into a smouldering heap - and take note of the kids carrying the matches and the metho. Hosted by Jack the Insider and Joel Hill with an occasional rotation of guests that generally share our distaste toward the lunatic fringe.

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Episode 193 - Milat - Age Checks - Gaetzy - Aug 31 - 4 corners - PETE!

8/24/2025
It has been a busy time on the right wing fringe of politics with a lot of dickheads having tantrums for reasons we can't fathom and they can't articulate. It's been a lot! But first up we have the very much not right wing but still slightly fringe tale of Jeremy Buckingham's search for truth regarding Ivan Milat's actual body count. The problem is, he's gone a bit off track and started making some fairly baseless claims. These can do more harm than good - and it's a classic case of when a politician thinks he's a cop and ends up doing both jobs terribly. We love Jeremy but this one's not going well. Cookers are upset about the coming 'backdoor' to digital tyranny that will see us having to identify ourselves on the internet to get past age checks for naughty content. And while the proliferation of awful content online is something worth looking at, this response ain't it. AND we have Gaetzy who has a solution to the war in Ukraine. It's really dumb. No spoilers. Cooker update has a bit of a lead up to next weeks racist picnic in the park where a lot of people will unite for the cause of - uh - straya? It's vague. We don't really know who is organising it. But they put Bec Freedom out as the media scapegoat and wow she's copped a shellacking. I tell ya what though - if you want to distance this rally from the Nazis who endorsed it, maybe don't put people that endorse nazis in charge? Just a thought, guys. In SovCits we look at the 4 corners episode that recently had a crack at the Common Law folks who love a good mock trial and dashing custom printed polo shirt. It was a good effort, but worth a chat nonetheless. I also preview the first few pages of Pete's new book and it sucks so much more than expected. Like, I knew the premise was silly but WOW does this thing suck. And the price is insane. ----------------------------------------------------------- As usual, if you have any money you must give it to us. Preferably all of it, but if you want to be a jerk you can keep some. Best way to do that is https://www.patreon.com/theconditionalreleaseprogram If you have money and you don't want to give us any of it - but you like beer - then go buy a case or three from https://cbco.beer/ - and use the coupon code CRP10 to get 10% off. It's genuinely good beer and their prices are properly decent.

Duration:01:37:59

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The Two Jacks - Episode 124 - Stadiums, Surface Wars, and the Cost of Cutting Corners

8/22/2025
As usual, AI slop shownotes for anyone who wants to read them. Enjoy! Timestamped segments and takeaways 00:00:01 – Cold open, weather and bike lanes 00:02:23 – Four‑day work week and productivity roundtable 00:04:26 – Housing, commuting, and productivity drag 00:06:47 – AI regulation “light touch” 00:07:51 – Where productivity gains might come from 00:08:17 – Energy transition, prices, and investment 00:12:00 – Cutting “red tape”: harmonization and tax settings 00:14:24 – Build quality crises and supervision gaps 00:15:40 – Political capital, timid reform, and election calculus 00:24:45 – Israel–Australia visa spat 00:27:28 – Failed asylum seekers backlog nearing 100k 00:32:07 – Tasmania: Greens hold line on stability 00:36:32 – Vale Terence Stamp 00:38:00 – Ukraine–Russia: Alaska talks flop, semantics vs substance 00:49:05 – US inflation watch and tariffs 00:54:24 – Crime, stats vs street reality 00:58:26 – Drones, defense, and future warfare 01:00:42 – Congressional stock trading and transparency 01:04:27 – Picking winners: Intel, Kodak lessons 01:08:05 – Crime again: data declines vs spikes that matter 01:13:08 – AFL: homophobic slur sanctions and finals stakes 01:19:01 – AFL form lines and umpiring 01:21:33 – NRL, cricket, rugby 01:27:16 – Allianz Stadium turf failure 01:31:07 – Vegas tourism pivot and gouge 01:32:53 – Corporate team bonding and Beef Wellington Notable quotes to pull

Duration:01:34:58

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The Two Jacks - Episode 123 - Patterson, Palestine & Pendlebury: Crime, War and the Business End of Footy

8/22/2025
As usual, AI slop shownotes for anyone who wants to read them. Enjoy! ----------------------------------------------- Content warning: violent crime, child deaths, war, famine, and historical mass-casualty events. — Description — Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack cover a packed week: the Erin Patterson verdict and sentencing expectations; the Folbigg exoneration and compensation debate; AI’s promised productivity vs. creators’ rights; New Zealand politics and travel flows; Australia’s recognition of Palestine and the “day-after” security problem in Gaza; the 80th anniversary debate over Hiroshima/Nagasaki; U.S. housing, tariffs, and political incentives; food-stamp restrictions; Trump–Putin optics; pasta wars over cacio e pepe; plus NRL, AFL, cricket (Darwin’s case for a Test), and rugby’s Giteau Law change. They finish with an Iranian TV claim on “weather manipulation” and call it a week. Summary of key points — Timestamped segments — 00:00:01 — Cold open & banter 00:01:22 — Erin Patterson: new disclosures, appeal posture, sentencing 00:12:30 — Kathleen Folbigg: exoneration, “skinny” compensation, media reckoning 00:19:19 — Productivity Commission on AI: 4.3% productivity vs. IP rights 00:29:05 — New Zealand: travel flows, cost of living, politics 00:33:32 — Australia to recognize Palestine: symbolism vs. security 00:43:05 — Hiroshima & Nagasaki at 80: necessity debate revisited 00:53:29 — U.S. housing and politics: who sets the agenda? 01:01:50 — Food stamps & junk food limits 01:04:51 — Trump–Putin in Alaska; Ukraine reality check 01:07:27 — Cacio e pepe wars (BBC vs. Rome) 01:10:01 — NRL: ladder shifts and a trainer’s “gamesmanship” 01:14:55 — AFL culture & form lines 01:26:24 — Cricket: T20 streak, Darwin’s Test pitch, Ashes selection 01:34:27 — Rugby: Giteau Law scrapped 01:36:21 — Iran drought & “weather manipulation” claim; sign-off — Notable moments & quotes —

Duration:01:38:22

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Episode 192 - Conspiracy Nation with Ariel Bogle and Cam Wilson

8/18/2025
Wasn't going to use AI slop for shownotes this time but these are quite good! But you know who the authors are, you know the book and if you haven't already - buy it! It's genuinely good. and remember you get 10% off delicious tins at https://cbco.beer/ and if you want to keep this thing going - and like naughty bonus episodes - please support us at https://www.patreon.com/theconditionalreleaseprogram ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ever wondered what drives conspiracy theories in Australia? Authors Ariel Bogle and Cam Wilson take us on a fascinating journey through their research for "Conspiracy Nation," revealing the complex web of beliefs, profiteers, and digital ecosystems that shape modern conspiracy culture. Their investigation spans from the historical Port Arthur incident to today's online communities, where fringe beliefs find fertile ground. Through firsthand experiences—including a memorable visit to a conspiracy theorist meeting in Byron Bay—the authors demonstrate how empathy and critical thinking can coexist in journalism. The discussion illuminates the fine line between genuine independent journalism and sensationalist commentary, highlighting how the attention economy fuels misinformation. Bogle and Wilson masterfully balance compassion for those caught in conspiracy networks while exposing the opportunists who exploit them for profit. Ready to understand the fascinating world of conspiracy theories and their impact on Australian society? Tune in to this eye-opening episode that challenges our assumptions about belief, truth, and the power of digital communities. Listen now to discover how conspiracy theories shape our nation and why understanding them matters more than ever.

Duration:00:44:52

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The Two Jacks - Episode 122 - Tasmania’s Numbers Game, Nazi Clowns, and Gaza’s No-Good Options

8/10/2025
As usual, AI slop shownotes. They're all about 30 seconds off due to theme music. Enjoy! The Jacks start in Hong Kong’s downpour before unpacking Tasmania’s post‑election arithmetic and a machete “amnesty” with bins outside cop shops. They wade through protests, policing, and the far‑right’s antics, then dig into the Gareth Ward case and the thorny politics of expulsion. There’s a sharp turn into AI copyright fights, family life vs screens, and a listener letter on pilot mental health. Mid‑show is a deep dive on ME/CFS’s genetic breakthrough, then a long, unsentimental look at Gaza, Hamas, ceasefires, and who could plausibly govern anything next. Stateside, Tulsi, Brennan, Mueller, and the Epstein files swirl together with youth‑vote and gerrymander chat. They close with sport: Wallabies’ best fortnight in ages, a cracking England–India Test, Ashes nerves, AFL chaos at Melbourne, and a quick NRL/Swans CEO note—before ending on a Trader Joe’s chicken funeral and a cheeky Ozempic joke. Chapters Notable quotes Who and what gets mentioned

Duration:01:40:08

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Episode 191 - The Murder Business with Emily Webb

8/10/2025
Emily Webb joins Jack to talk about her new book, Murder in the Suburbs. Talk turns to Erin Patterson and the Leongatha Mushroom Murders, the truth about murder and the often lurid business of True Crime reporting. Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theconditionalreleaseprogram Buy Emily's book: https://www.bigskypublishing.com.au/books/murder-in-the-suburbs/

Duration:01:23:01

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The Two Jacks - Episode 121 - The Cunning Stunts and Blunt Instruments of July: Debt, Diplomacy & Dramas

8/5/2025
The episode title is completely ridiculous. Thanks, ChatGPT 4.1. Also it thinks Jack is me. I'm not here to change that. Any of you people seen us in the same room? Yeah, I thought so. 🏄‍♂️ Episode Overview This round of The Two Jacks is a beaut: Joel (Jack the Insider) and Jack (Hong Kong Jack) serve up their signature Aussie banter and sharp intellectual takes, tackling everything from Oz politics and housing to international chaos, with a healthy dose of sports, climate woes, and top-shelf ribbing. Whether it’s decoding Albanese’s courage (or lack thereof) or marveling at St Kilda’s miracle comeback, this episode’s got more zingers than a Bunnings sausage sizzle. Settle in for a jam-packed ride through the headlines, global drama, and just enough nonsense to make your brain hurt (in a good way). ⏰ Timestamped Segments 00:00:00 — Opening Chit-Chat 00:01:30 — Listener Mailbag: Student Debt, Housing, and the Millennial Squeeze 00:06:25 — Policy Wonkery: Productivity, Summits, and Gough Whitlam Ghosts 00:12:12 — Climate Change: Veggies as Luxury, Alarmism, and the Gospel of Catastrophe 00:19:22 — Social Media: Bans, Privacy, and the Perennial Parental Panic 00:33:11 — World in a Pickle: Cambodia-Thailand Fracas & Middle East Mess 01:00:05 — Trump Watch & Global Popcorn 01:07:42 — Epstein Files & Legal Shenanigans 01:19:30 — Sports Blitz: Rugby, Cricket, and AFL Madness 01:33:08 — Wrapping Up: Listener Love and Where to Find the Jacks 🦘 Wrap-up This episode’s a ripper—classic Two Jacks with brain, heart, and tongue firmly in cheek. If you want deep dives and laughs in the same breath, you’re in the right spot. Get around it, drop the crew a line, and don’t forget: when in doubt, blame the streaming fees. (what streaming fees?!?)

Duration:01:34:32

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Episode 190 - Who Killed 'Lizard' Locksley? With Ray Mooney

8/1/2025
Playwright, author, artist and former resident at HM Pentridge Prison, Ray Mooney sits down with Jack to discuss an infamous case, the murder of Raymond Francis 'Lizard' Locksley in 1979. Locksley's body was found with multiple gunshot wounds in Menai in Sydney's west. Melbourne criminal Christopher Dale Flannery was charged with the murder, he went through a committal hearing before being acquitted in 1984. Ray was Flannery's alibi witness along with many others at Mickey's Disco in St Kilda but the charges proceeded amid a flurry of police verbals from some of the most infamous police officers in Victoria and New South Wales at the time. In this episode Ray proves that Flannery could not have committed the murder of Locksley. If Flannery didn't do it, who did? Ray and Jack discuss whether this was a blue murder or where other criminal elements not related to Flannery may have been involved.

Duration:01:15:48

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The Two Jacks - Episode 120 - Voting at 16, Planes in Peril - Typhoons, Polls & Power Plays

7/27/2025
The deep thinking ChatGPT model O3 has done some properly fine work on these shownotes. Behold the slop. Enjoy! A T10 typhoon batters Hong Kong while political storms swirl from Canberra to Westminster. Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack break down Australian polling shocks, UK voting reforms, Middle-East flashpoints, the tangled Epstein files, and a grab-bag of sport, entertainment, and aviation safety stories. Here are the robot's ten title ideas. Do they suck? I dunno, haven't listened to the episode yet. 10 Title Ideas Episode Highlights: Robot Edition • “This could be the end of the Liberal Party as a national force if they don’t find the centre ground—and fast.” — Jack the Insider • “Votes at 16? Sure—but give them a civics class before you hand them the ballot.” — Hong Kong Jack • The boys predict Tasmania’s next premier may “need a calendar, not a throne” given fragile coalition math. • Coldplay’s stage-dive mishap leads to a riff on “Slip, Slop, Slap—Rock-star edition.” Useful Links & Further Reading

Duration:01:31:27

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Episode 189 - Epstein - Cookers - Tredrea - Zippy!

7/22/2025
This week we have a classic news episode which opens with a bit about Epstein. It's talk of the town but our take is the best one of course. We remind listeners gleefully that Raina Cruise's suspended sentence was overturned and replaced with a custodial one. She seems like a real nice lady. Probably redpilling the prison as we speak. We also look at Damien Richardson's Nazi salute and his defence lawyer who thinks that the solution to his legal woes lies in a protractor and some measuring tape. And in SovCits we look at Warren Tredrea - former AFL great turned cooker who recently tried to pay a costs order to Nine in the form of a promissory note. Sadly, he could not find the gold coins to pay it so it's been written off. This is because something something the federal acts. Just look it up bro do your research. And last but NOT LEAST is Zippy Babet who is having a very tough time wrapping his head around the Epstein files - or lack thereof. He also has fallen in love with Far North Queensland but sadly he wants to ban himself from going there. I hope he goes there and stays there. On behalf of the fine folks in Melbourne who have way too many bloody cookers in their midst. PS - We were going to do the ANR Free Speech Summit, Timeshare Presentation and Independent Media Awards this episode but it's blown out to be a bit long. So that will probably get its own episode. Oh Jamie. You're such a funny lad. The story is still developing as well, since people have suddenly learned that putting his name into google has a lot of results. Several of them bad. Some of them are glowing reports of his honesty and brilliance but he clearly paid for them. Enjoy!

Duration:01:17:12

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Episode 188 - Beck's Story

7/11/2025
Beck Rogers is a 41-year-old wife and mother living in suburban Melbourne. She has decided to share her story - one of protracted sexual abuse, manipulation and coercive control at the hands of her father over more than three decades. Beck had the courage to persist and the courage to finally the end the abuse. She is telling her story in interview with Peter Hoysted in the hope other victims might come forward and end the cycle of abuse. This is not an easy listen but an important one. One in 10 Australians experience sexual abuse at the hands of a family member. Beck wants them to know there is a way out. Victims can seek justice and become survivors.

Duration:01:02:03

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The Two Jacks - Episode 119 - Cancer Breakthroughs - Child Safety Failures - Victorian Politics and Anti-Semitism - Reflections on 7/7

7/10/2025
Overview: In this episode, Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack discuss a wide array of topics ranging from breakthrough medical treatments to global politics, crime, sports, and cultural events, providing insightful commentary and analysis. Topics Discussed: Breakthrough in Pancreatic Cancer TreatmentChildcare Safety CrisisVictorian PoliticsAnti-Semitic Incidents in MelbourneReflections on the 7/7 London BombingsCultural Spotlight: Oasis ReunionSports Coverage:Opinions on Middle East Peace TalksU.S. Politics and PoliciesHong Kong Jack’s Story Highlight

Duration:01:33:01

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Episode 187 - The Pain of ME/CFS

7/2/2025
Jack interviews Peter McCluskey from EMERGE Australia, a support group for sufferers of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS), a complex, long-term illness characterised by severe fatigue that is not relieved by rest, joint pain, multiple food allergies, dizziness, sensitivity to light, touch and sound. Peter’s wife, Jen, was first diagnosed with ME/CFS in 1993. Peter outlines the struggles his wife has had to manage over the last three decades. The condition is exacerbated by medical health professionals who often believe ME/CFS is a psychosomatic syndrome. Poor and out-dated advice from the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners continues to worsen the symptoms for sufferers of this debilitating illness. The advice remains in place in Australia despite changes to treatment in the UK and the US. Sufferers are often bed bound for much of their lives. They find it extremely difficult to access government support, including disability pensions and the NDIS.

Duration:01:43:05

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The Two Jacks - Episode 118 - Diplomatic Facepalms & Footy Failures: The Jack-off We Didn’t Deserve

6/26/2025
So the episode title is courtesy of ChatGPT and proof that AI is not going to replace us - yet. What? Anyway here's more AI slop. I didn't see the episode 117 but I'm on holiday so I am doing it later.

Duration:01:22:10

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Episode 186 - RIP Denis - Minnesota Motives - Cooker Update

6/18/2025
No AI slop shownotes (as is now tradition) because I did this edit in two parts. But basically Jack sees off his mate Denis Ryan who listeners will know was a Ballarat detective who fought the church to stop child sex offending and was harshly punished for his good deeds. We also look at the idiots saying the Minnesota assassinations were 'left wing violence'. We discuss the relevance of cookers which brings us right to Monica's latest grift - the hollow and pointless private prosecution of Dan Andrews. And then we have SovCits, MAGA paedos and BABET! Big week folks. Enjoy!

Duration:01:50:04

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The Two Jacks - Episode 116 - Media Meltdown, Super Tax, Housing Headaches, and Trump's Power Plays

6/13/2025
This episode of "The Two Jacks," with Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack, covers a range of topics including the struggles of free-to-air television in Australia, the proposed superannuation tax on high balances, the complexities of housing affordability and development approvals, and the political landscape in the United States, particularly regarding immigration and the actions of the Trump administration. They also touch on the passing of author Frederick Forsyth, the controversial Gaza Freedom Flotilla with Greta Thunberg, and lighter topics like the "Dull Men's Club" and AFL updates. Timestamped Events:

Duration:01:37:47

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The Two Jacks - Episode 115 - Mildura Mafia, Black Eyes, and the Occasional Riot

6/13/2025
This episode of 'The Two Jacks' features Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack discussing a range of topics. A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the story of former Victoria Police detective Denis Ryan and his fight for justice against clerical abuse, detailed in the book Unholy Trinity. They also touch upon Australian and international politics, including sectarianism, the current state of the Labor and Green parties, the situation in Tasmania, and US and UK politics with commentary on Elon Musk, the Democrats, and Sir Keir Starmer. The episode concludes with a discussion on sports, specifically AFL, NRL, and cricket. PS - THESE SHOWNOTES ARE AI GENERATED Unholy Trinity

Duration:01:29:43

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The Two Jacks - Episode 114 -

5/30/2025
AI slop shownotes. This one gets spicy on Israel and Palestine! Podcast Episode: Two Jacks – Episode 114 Post-Production for Recording 1 Run Date: 30 May 2025 Shownotes Introduction (0:00) Australian Politics and Election Analysis (0:59) election resultminor partiesCoalition Dynamics and Leadership Updates (6:00) Littleproud’s leadershipBroader Political Landscape Commentary (14:00) International Politics: US, UK, and Poland (26:00) United Kingdom: Poland: Presidential ElectionUnited States: economic policiesMiddle East: Israel-Gaza Conflict (1:04:00) Sports Corner (1:13:00) Australian Rules Football (AFL): Collingwood’s dominanceRugby: British Lions TourBrumbiesSoccer: Ange Postecoglou’s successCricket: State of Origin Rugby League: Closing Thoughts (1:28:00) Thank you for tuning in to Two Jacks! Email Jack the Insider: jacktheinsider@gmail.com Subscribe to Hong Kong Jack on Substack for updates!

Duration:01:32:25

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The Two Jacks - Episode 113 - Sussssssan Ley is Ley-der

5/13/2025
In this episode of The Two Jacks, Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack tackle the latest in Australian politics, global media developments, and international affairs. It's a fast-paced discussion of the political landscape, leadership upheavals, cabinet shakeups, pressing policies, and more. Tune in for sharp observations and witty takes! Key Topics Covered Listener Takeaways Links/Resources @JackTheInsiderHongKongJack.Substack.comContact The Two Jacks Have feedback, questions, or topics you’d like covered in a future episode? Reach out: The Two JacksJoin us for Episode 113 of The Two Jacks for bold takes, sharp critiques, and a few laughs along the way!

Duration:01:28:12

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Episode 185 - Post 2025 Federal Election Wrap

5/7/2025
MORE UNINTENTIONALLY FUNNY AI SLOP SHOWNOTES. Peter Hoistead? Thanks Gemini. Thanks listeners. We love you. Buy CBCo it's excellent beer. The Conditional Release Program - Episode 185: Federal Election 2025 Post-Special Hosts: Joel Hill & Jack the Insider (Peter Hoistead) Overall Theme: A deep dive into the results and implications of the 2025 Australian Federal Election, focusing on Labor's historic victory, the Coalition's catastrophic loss, and the performance of minor parties and independents. Key Segments & Talking Points: (Part 1 - Approximate Timestamps based on original transcript, subject to adjustment) onlytowardsagainstwww.patreon.com/theconditionalreleaseprogramcbco.beertoall(Part 2 - Timestamps restart from 00:00:00 but are a continuation, add ~1 hour 36 mins 50 secs to these for continuous flow) On the live stream, 2 hours in, Jonas claimed Dutton would get a surprise victory/form minority government.totheconditionalreleaseprogram@gmail.com

Duration:02:08:03