Sunday Sanctuary with Petra Bagust

While Sunday Sanctuary is on a break, we want to share episodes from podcasts that we think you'll really like. This week: Ngā Here - The Many Connections. This episode is the first from season four, of which all the episodes are out now! If you like what you hear, then go and find Ngā Here wherever you listen to podcasts. Big thanks to James for letting us share this episode. Follow Ngā Here on Instagram

Kia ora! Sunday Sanctuary is on a break until mid-October. Petra's schedule is VERY busy, and so it was decided that Sunday Sanctuary could take a back seat for a little bit. While we are taking a break from releasing normal episodes, we still have different blessings, and episodes of other podcasts that we think are great that we will be sharing with you! This week, a blessing for what makes us us, from The Lives We Actually Have by Kate Bowler and Jessica Richie. Read by Rev Frank Ritchie. The music is Old Peel by Aldous Harding.

Kia tau te rangimārie ki runga i a koutou. As-salamu alaykum. Shalom. Peace is so often something that we wish upon others, and even seek for ourselves. But what do we mean when we talk about peace? Can peace be more than just the absence of conflict, whether that is conflict within us or between people? In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, producer Sam talks to spiritual director Shannon Mawdsley, activist Adrian Leason, and the Lead Chaplain of the NZDF, Dave Lacey, to hear how their perspectives on peacemaking align....and how they don't. Petra then talks to Sunday Sanctuary regular Rev Frank Ritchie. They unpack what St Francis of Assisi meant when he prayed asking God to make him "an instrument of your peace". Music: - Mesa Redonda by Hermanos Gutierrez (played between Shannon's and Adrian's interviews) - Hanoi 6 by Unknown Mortal Orchestra (played between Adrian's and Dave's interviews) - Nouh Al Hamam by Maryam Saleh (played between Dave's and Shannon's interviews) - TUMUTUMU MAUNGA by Sanguine (played to end the first half) - We Got To Have Peace by Curtis Mayfield - Las Petits Gris by Khruangbin (played during the candle segment) - Peace Piece by Bill Evans Trio - Hope by Fat Freddy's Drop (played at the end of the episode)

Kids play all the time. So do animals in fact. But adults… much less so. Why do we lose our passion for play when we get older? And what else do we lose in the process? We go on a journey to explore the importance of adult play (not that kind). Come with us! Sacred Texts: Music:

There seems to be a sea of things that we can find overwhelming these days. How do we move through it all without becoming bogged down? In this episode, producer Sam talks to Phoebe Atkinson, Lissy Cole, and Rudi Robinson about the ways they see and approach overwhelming circumstances. Later on, Petra sits down with Rachel Kitchens, a spiritual director, to talk about her own experiences and a handful of practical tips. To be clear, this episode doesn't address the overwhelming nature of serious physical or mental health issues. The sense of overwhelm focussed on applies to otherwise healthy people who find either personal or global circumstances to be just too much at times. Wherever you're at, feel free to join us. Haere mai! Sacred Texts: Michael Leunig's poemTuesdays with Morrie Music: Come and Play in the Milky Night - DemoHuiaCumbia Sobre el MarThose DaysYou Got The LoveSpace 1Sun Rays Like StiltsHelplessness BluesFTA Space is the Place

Are we living in an age that's ugly by design? This question arose after Petra and producer Sam read an article by the writer Andrew Shamy. The second in a series called "The Museum of Things We've Lost", Andrew unpacks the role of beauty and the consequences of its absence. In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra is joined by both Andrew and architectural design lecturer Abby Temby-Spence. As always, space is made for reflection alongside great waiata/music. Haere mai! Sacred texts: Andrew Shamy's articleThis edition of Nick Cave's Red Hand Files Music: You are the GoldClimb100%Mona LisaMoon AgeSlider - Lorenzo Saxophone DubWashI Love My Leather JacketTwo Fish and an ElephantCaja de la Sala

Mānawatia a Matariki!! Producer Sam has a brief thought to share tied to Matariki weekend. We hope you find space to embrace the themes of Matariki this year. We'll be back next week with a new episode. Music: - Ruru by Aro

Prayer is something found is almost every culture and society in the world. It's so ubiquitous that even some of those who descibe themselves as non-religious or atheist have resorted to prayer at times. In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra goes looking for answers about the different forms that prayer can take, and what role it can play in our lives. Along the way, she talks to broadcaster and champion of the Māori language, Stacey Morrison, about karakia and inoi. After a short chat with producer Sam, Petra ropes in Strahan Coleman to ask about the role of prayer in deepening our relationship with God. Haere mai (come along)!! Sacred Text: This sceneIt's a Wonderful Life Music: A Calf Born in WinterInstrumental2516I Say a Little Prayer For YouWichita Lineman (Instrumental)Solar GapCome YeThe Guitar is Dead 3Just SayingThose Days Big thanks to St Paul's here in Auckland for letting producer Sam book a spot in their 24/7 prayer room!

What goals or ambitions do you have? Have you ever thought about the way you're working towards them? In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra Bagust explores what it might look like to re-define our idea of success. Along the way, she talks to Emily Looker, one half of the band Aro. Producer Sam also introduces Petra to some crazy runners and to Taufa Lavemaau, a boxer who shares his journey towards the 2024 Paris Olympics. Sacred Texts: Talk Easy with Sam FragosoPrayer Vol. 2 Music: Actually HomeSoulful StrutA Hero's DeathTezetaFTATe KarangaStatue Of A Woman

Breathe in. Breathe out. Such simple instructions that can make a huge difference, especially when we pay attention to our breath and how we feel. When was the last time, however, that you thought about breathe as being essential to life? In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra explores the importance of breathe and it's link to spirit. Along the way she talks with Manuel Beazley, the vicar for māori in the Catholic diocese of Auckland, and friend of the show Rev. Frank Ritchie. Include some feedback from listeners, top quality waiata (songs), and some hollywood star power and you have the recipe for a great episode! Haere mai! Sacred Texts: This clipThis scene A small correction: The film clip is from the movie Apollo 13, not Apollo 11. Music: Space 7Slider - Lorenzo Saxophone DubBreatheOh My GodBreathe DeeperLove Is EverywhereFrolic

It is so often our differences that divide people, but have you ever noticed the beauty in difference? In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra goes in search of what that means, and why difference is something o be desired, despite it's challenges. Dame Anne Salmond is Petra's first guest. She lays out the advantages of difference at an anthropological level (as she is so good at doing!) Rev Brett Jones is up next! Leader of the Weslyan Methodist church in Aotearoa/New Zealand, his own church and the many he oversees are full of a beautiful diversity of people. But what does this mean in actuality? We have a new intro song! It's called You Are the Gold by Terrible Sons. The sacred text in this episode is from a post by @dusttodigital. Music: Intro by The xx Harvest for the World by The Isley Brothers Just Saying by Jamie xx Marechia by Nu Genea Give a Little Bit by Supertramp Ocean City by Gunn - Trusincski Duo

Nature has seasons, the transitions between which can be difficult for many people. Life also has seasons. How do we navigate the ending of one part of our life, and the beginning of another? In this episode, Petra is joined by Rev. Frank Ritchie to unpack how he is approaching an upcoming season change in his life. Petra also talks to a group of her own friends, all of whom are in the midst of their own season changes. Haere mai/come along! A small correction: We mistakenly attributed the 'Welcoming Prayer' to Thomas Merton, instead of Thomas Keating. Music: Autumn SweaterEquipoiseBashed OutJust SayingWarned YouSeasons (Waiting on You)Innerspace

What the heck is Lent?! After being introduced to it through talkback radio, Petra decided to go in search of what Lent is all about. If you're curious about what this time of the year is all about, by all means come along! In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra's first stop was to talk to the pride of Tairua, Strahan Coleman. You've likely heard Strahan on the show before, and this time he helped to unpack why Lent is about more that just fasting or "behaviour modification". Find Strahan's project Commoners Communion and his book 'Thirsting' here After a reflection on communion, and some waiata/songs, Petra also catches up with Producer Sam who provides an update on part of his life that seems to be aligning with the themes of Lent. Haere mai! Music: Emotional IntelligenceFrolicSlowdownHungerLes PetitsGris SinnermanZionsville Interlude

When was the last time you asked yourself what your spirituality/faith is for? On this episode, Petra risks rattling a few cages with a message that doesn't sit alongside what wider society often tells us. Joining Petra to explore the purpose of faith is Arch-Bishop Justin Duckworth and Kate Hall (@ethicallykate on Insta). Petra and Justin unpack their discussion that they had on Aotea/Great Barrier Island over summer. If you've been wondering what this conversation that we've been teasing since the start of the year is, here you go! Producer Sam went looking for someone who puts their words into actions, and found Kate Hall, who goes by @ethicallykate online. Petra and Kate talk about what it looks like to let your values influence your actions, and how this can actually be super life-giving! Haere mai! Music: Anchin Kfu AyinkashAlrightStormySummer's EndLosalamitoslatinfunklovesongNo Ordinary LifeInterlude The sacred text in this epsiode is Twenty-One Elephants by Scottie Reeve (pages 36-37)

What's the power of taking just one step? That's what Petra Bagust looks into on this episode of Sunday Sanctuary. When the journey ahead is too big to comprehend, or you have more than one option available, what would happen if we took one step? In this episode, Petra talks to co-founder of the charity One Mother to Another and former 1News Europe correspondent, Joy Reid, about her journey with long Covid and learning to take one step at a time. In recent months, producer Sam has been wondering what it means to be a good treaty partner here in New Zealand. One step he took this year was to head to Waitangi for a week. Another step he took was to take a microphone with him to record a Waitangi diary for this episode. Haere mai! Music: Intsrumental by The Fuzzy Robes (played at the end of the intro) Frolic by Jake Xerxes Fussell (played at the end of Joy's interview) Lost Forever by Tony Njoku (played at the start of the Little One Step reading) By the Sleepy Lagoon by BBC Concert Orchestra (played at the end of the Little One Step reading) Caught in the Middle by Paramore Rivers that you Cannot See by North Americans (played during communion) This is Your Life by Hannah Cohen Pīwari by Christoph El Truento (first song in Sam's Waitangi diary) Moon Age by Duster (second song in Sam's Waitangi diary) East Cape by Headland (last song in Sam's Waitangi diary) Claire de Lune by Claude Debussy (played during the benediction)

Whether we like it or not, life is change. Some changes are exciting and welcome and others are just hard. Some happen to us and others we pluck up the courage to make ourselves. In this episode, Petra and her guests delve into the various changes in life - how we deal with difficult change and how we make a daunting, but necessary, change. We chat with Saul Parkinson, who gave up his well-paid corporate job to pursue his passion of woodcrafting. Then we change gears, doing a deep dive into the impact change has on us, with communicator and environmental advisor, James Beck. All wrapped in our usual smorgasbord of insightful and inspiring goodness. Don’t go changing. Or maybe do? Music: Play with Me by The Album Leaf Changes by David Bowie The Light by The Album Leaf Landslide by Fleetwood Mac Change by Tracy Chapman

Sunday Sanctuary is back for 2025! It is such a privilege to make this show and we are stoked to be returning for another year. This episode is just a small one to say hi, check in, and to be a moment for reflecting on 2024 and think ahead about the year to come. If you like the show, we would love it if you could tell your friends and family. One way to do this is by recommending a specific episode that you think someone you know might appreciate. Music: StormyBig Old BlueSpace is the Place The benediction in this episode is called A Blessing for the Summer We Actually Had by Kate Bowler

In what is becoming something of an annual tradition, join Petra Bagust for a mini Sunday Sanctuary episode made specially for Christmas Eve. Petra is joined in this episode by Michael Frost (church leader and host of the podcast In The Shift). The two talk about how Michael has changed from being "an Easter guy" to being able to embrace Christmas again, in amongst whatever life might be like at the time. Michael also wrote the benediction for the episode, which he shares at the end. Music:

You've made it to the end of the year! However you are feeling about the current Advent season and the coming of Christmas, you are welcome to join Petra and producer Sam to reflect on and wrap up Sunday Sanctuary for 2024. Petra and Sam create a mixtape of interview clips that have stuck with them this year, as well as music for your Christmas and summer. There is some space for reflecting on this year and Petra and Sam hear what episodes stuck with listeners this year. Haere mai (come along)! Music: Unforgettable MemoriesHouse of the Rising SunSomething on Your MindCruisin' to the ParkChristmas Time is HereMuramuraChristmas TimeLove Will Work it OutTake Your Time (Do It Right)MarilynFollow My VoiceMagic Spell The LightO Come O Come Emmanuel Petra and Sam's recommendations: Books - The Mermaid Chronicles by Megan Dunn and Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer Albums - Blue Dreams by Holly Arrowsmith and Midday Prayers by The Fuzzy Robes Films - Never Look Away by Lucy Lawless and Calypte: A Sailing and Surfing Voyage by Torren Martin and Ishka Folkwell Places to explore - the North Island town of Waipu and Dublin Bay outside of Wānaka

How would you describe your sense of connection with nature? Is it something you think about very often? One way or another, we are all part of the larger eco-system on this planet, and as such, we have a role to play within it. In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary with Petra Bagust, dive into the beginning of an exploration into how we connect with nature. Up first, Petra sends producer Sam to meet his friend Nat Duchesne, National Youth Camps Director for Scripture Union New Zealand, to ask about her special connection with nature and how she introduces groups of teens to the outdoors. Kerry Manders is the second guest in this episode, telling the story of the intentional choices she made to more closely intertwine her everday life with nature. Stick around for a poem by Wendell Berry, voice memos from people around Aotearoa/New Zealand and a liturgy for sunsets. Our hope is that this episode helps with your own thinking on your relationship with nature and how that then plays out in your life. Sacred Texts: Before Dark by Wendell Berry Music: The Homeless Wanderer by Emahoy Tsege Mariam Gebru (Played during Wendell Berry's poem) Space is the Place by Ezra Collective (Played at the end of Nat's interview) Beautiful Day by Voom Low Tides by Christoph El Truento (Played during Community Life) Cinquante Six by Ali Farka Toure (Played during Communion) Mother Nature's Son by The Beatles Climb by Laura Misch (Played at the end of Kerry's interview) Space 1 by Nala Sinephro (Played during the Liturgy for Sunsets)