Other People's Shoes

🎙 Saying Grace 🧩 Season Theme: Hungry This season, we explore what it means to be hungry, in all its forms. Hungry for food, for meaning, and for connection. Together, we’ll pull up a chair, break bread, and discover what truly nourishes us. 👣 Guest Introduction: Does prayer really do any good or are we just talking to the ceiling? In this opening episode of Season 21 Hungry, we step into the shoes of Rachel Wojo, affectionately known as the “Prayer Girl.” Rachel has inspired thousands with her writings, speaking, and authentic faith. Her latest book, Desperate Prayers: Embracing God in Life’s Darkest Moments, invites readers into raw, honest conversations with God when life feels darkest. In our conversation, Rachel opens up about the power of prayer, the struggles that shaped her journey, and even the hardest person she’s ever had to pray for. 💡 Episode Highlights: Why Rachel became known as the “Prayer Girl”. The story behind Desperate Prayers and how it was born out of life’s hardest seasons. Who Rachel finds hardest to pray for and why. How prayer feeds the deeper hunger for peace, purpose, and connection. 🔗 Connect with Rachel Wojo: 🌐 Website 📘 Facebook Author Page 📖 Her Book – Desperate Prayers 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode moved you, challenged you, or gave you something to think about don’t keep it to yourself! Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and let us know how stepping into Rachel’s shoes impacted you.

⚠️ Content Warning:In this episode, Joshua Daniel shares about his time as an Army Ranger and Green Beret, including a mission involving a suicide bomber. Listener discretion is advised.⚠️ 🎙 De Oppresso Liber 🧩 Season Theme: Unmade The season theme 'Unmade' refers to the concept of an 'unmade bed' raw, honest, and messy moments in life when things fall apart, identities unravel, and people are confronted with the truth of who they really are. 👣 Guest Introduction: From a high school student enlisting at 17 to serving over 20 years in Special Operations, Joshua Daniel’s journey is one of resilience, sacrifice, and conviction. By 18, he had made it into the Special Operations community, and at 19, he deployed to combat for the first time. His path wasn’t smooth setbacks, challenges, and moments that could have derailed him were real but quitting was never an option. Joshua retired as a Master Sergeant, not because he was the most gifted, but because he was relentlessly committed: to the mission, to the men beside him, and to the ideal embodied in the Green Beret motto: De Oppresso Liber To free the oppressed. After his sixth deployment, Joshua founded Hero Games Charity, honoring fallen warriors and supporting their families through a grueling 6–8 hour crucible event built on sweat, grit, and legacy. Later, he launched Counter Culture Solutions, equipping people with mindset, resilience, and leadership skills forged in the Special Operations community. Today, Joshua’s call to serve looks different but the heart behind it remains the same. 💡 Episode Highlights: Joshua’s journey from enlisting at 17 to becoming a Green Beret A powerful story from a mission involving a suicide bomber Why De Oppresso Liber is more than a motto it’s a way of life How setbacks shaped Joshua’s resilience and leadership The creation of Hero Games Charity and its mission to honor fallen warriors What it means to carry a legacy forward into civilian life 🔗 Connect with Joshua Daniel: 🌐 Hero Games Charity 🌐 Counter Culture Solutions 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode moved you, challenged you, or gave you something to think about don’t keep it to yourself! Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and let us know how stepping into the guest’s shoes impacted you.

🎙 Borrow My Hope 🧩 Season Theme: Unmade The season theme 'Unmade' refers to the concept of an 'unmade bed' raw, honest, and messy moments in life when things fall apart, identities unravel, and people are confronted with the truth of who they really are. 👣 Guest Introduction: Meet Cristie Cerniglia a marriage coach certified through Laura Doyle’s Relationship Coaching program. A homeschooling mom of four from Kentucky, Cristie has lived the ups and downs of marriage firsthand. After 30 years with her husband, Rusty, she knows the ache of drifting apart, the frustration of failed fixes, and the quiet loneliness that can settle in even a “good” marriage. Her turning point came when she discovered the Six Intimacy Skills, which completely transformed her relationship in just 12 weeks. Now, Cristie helps women and by extension, couples rediscover joy, restore connection, and breathe life back into marriages that feel stuck or stagnant. 💡 Episode Highlights: Cristie’s journey from frustration and distance to reconnection and joy The Six Intimacy Skills and how they can transform marriages How small shifts in perspective and response can bring monumental change Listening and Self Care and tools for fostering deeper empathy and connection Practicing a Gratitude Drop and Give Me 10 not push-ups, but writing down ten things you’re grateful for about your spouse. Learning how to receive graciously why it matters and how it changes dynamics Using a dry-erase marker to leave simple notes of gratitude or encouragement Why hope is contagious and how borrowing someone else’s hope can help you hold on until yours returns 🔗 Connect with Cristie Cerniglia: 🌐 Website 📸 Instagram 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode encouraged you or gave you something new to try in your own relationships—don’t keep it to yourself! Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and let us know how stepping into Cristie’s shoes impacted you.

🎙 Episode Title: The Missing Piece 🧩 Season Theme: Unmade The season theme 'Unmade' refers to the concept of an 'unmade bed' raw, honest, and messy moments in life when things fall apart, identities unravel, and people are confronted with the truth of who they really are. 👣 Guest Introduction: Jordan Turbyfill has made a career in craftsmanship, but today he steps into a very different kind of work examining the heart behind our words. Known for his easy humor and quick wit, Jordan admits he’s guilty of tossing out the occasional “yo momma” joke. But what happens when a laugh cuts deeper than intended? For Jordan, conversations about motherhood carry weight. The raw honesty in NF’s song How Could You Leave Us resonates deeply with himits haunting story of love, loss, and longing for a mother who was physically present but emotionally absent. It’s a reminder that the mother child bond can be a source of comfort or of pain, and that its absence can leave a hole nothing else quite fills. Together, we explore how jokes can become mirrors, revealing both the beauty and brokenness in our relationships, and why missing that connection can feel like the missing piece in life’s puzzle. 💡 Episode Highlights: The double-edged nature of humor and the jokes we think are harmless. Why motherhood whether experienced firsthand or longed for is one of life’s greatest gifts. How NF’s How Could You Leave Us captures the pain of a fractured parental bond. The lasting impact of losing or never having a healthy mother–child connection. How love, absence, and humor can all shape identity and belonging. 🔗 Connect with Jordan Turbyfill: Instagram: @one.contract.flooring 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode moved you, challenged you, or gave you something to think about—don’t keep it to yourself! Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and let us know how stepping into the guest’s shoes impacted you.

🎙Messy Prayers 🗝️ Praying for someone—especially your spouse—is like trying to plant seeds in rocky soil. You know growth is possible, but every time you kneel down, you hit something hard: past wounds, unmet expectations, pride, fear. It takes work to clear the ground. But if you stay with it, roots can take hold—and something beautiful can grow. 👣 Guest Introduction: Amanda Hayhurst once looked at Christian women and thought they were fake—polished on the outside, probably polished on the inside too. But behind her own smile was a heart weighed down by shame, years of unhealthy coping, and ultimately, an affair that nearly destroyed her marriage. Just when things couldn’t feel more unmade, Amanda also faced one of the hardest chapters of her life walking through her young son’s leukemia diagnosis. And later, navigating her own health struggles. But instead of giving up, she began to press in. Amanda found herself surrendering the false identities she had clung to for years. Through therapy, community, and a growing relationship with Jesus, she uncovered something deeper than survival: healing. Now a seminary graduate, author of Pray for Him, and fierce advocate for honest, messy prayers, Amanda shares how God restored her life, her marriage, and continues to heal her heart day by day. 💡 Episode Highlights: 🛑 Why praying for your spouse can feel impossible and what’s really behind the resistance 💔 Amanda’s journey through shame, false intimacy, an affair, and her own health struggles 🩺 How her son’s leukemia diagnosis became a breaking and rebuilding point in her faith 🧎‍♀️ Surrendering unhealthy coping tools, including alcohol, performance, and escapism 📖 The difference between salvation and healing and why God wants both for us 💬 The raw, unfiltered truth about finding intimacy with God through pain ✨ What happens when we finally begin to pray not perfectly, but honestly 🔗 Connect with Amanda Hayhurst: Website: https://amandahayhurst.com Instagram: @amandahayhurstwrites 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode moved you, challenged you, or gave you something to think about don’t keep it to yourself! Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and let us know how stepping into Amanda’s shoes impacted you.

🎙 Dissonance 👣 🌵 Picture this: you're walking through a vast, dry desert, sun scorching your back, lips cracked, feet aching with every step. But you keep going. Why? Because on the horizon, you think you see it: approval, notoriety, love, fulfillment. You’re desperate for a drop of something real. But what if all those mirages are just that mirages? 🎶 The musical artist Plumb once wrote: "There’s a God-shaped hole in all of us, And the restless soul is searching. There’s a God-shaped hole in all of us, And it’s a void only He can fill." That’s the ache of dissonance—the tension between what we chase and what we truly need. 💔✨ Today’s guest, Billy Byrd Sr., knows that desert well. 🏜 At 19, he found himself in federal prison, chasing things that never truly filled him. In the silence, the dissonance of his life, the clash between who he was and who he was created to be, became impossible to ignore. 🎤🙏 What emerged wasn’t just a man with a microphone, but an artist and pastor whose music and message now echo with redemption, purpose, and praise. 🎵⛪️ From early rhythms in R&B to a soul deeply rooted in worship, Billy’s upcoming album “I Trust You” is more than music; it’s a testimony. His life, once marked by chaos, now sings a new song: one of faith, healing, and divine harmony. 🌈🔥 💡 Episode Highlights: 💭 What “dissonance” really means in life, faith, and identity 🎯 The false promises of fame, fortune, and approval 🔐 How federal prison became a turning point for Billy 🎶 The power of music to guide, heal, and lead us to truth 🕳 The "God-shaped hole" and what finally fills it 🙌 The message behind “I Trust You” and why it matters now 🔗 Connect with Billy Byrd Sr..: 📱 Instagram: @billybyrdsr1 ▶️ YouTube: Billy Byrd Sr. Music 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode moved you, challenged you, or gave you something to think about—don’t keep it to yourself! Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and let us know how stepping into the guest’s shoes impacted you. 💬📝

🎙 Out of Control 👣 You’ve probably heard the phrase “members only,” a special club with exclusive access. Think Costco, country clubs, and elite lounges at the airport. But there’s one membership no one ever wants, one that June Kraholik found herself part of in the most gut-wrenching way possible: the invisible club of grieving mothers. In 2012, June lost her two-year-old son Kaleb, and life as she knew it stopped making sense. Grief didn’t just knock on the door; it overtook her. But out of that devastation, June slowly found a way to transform her pain into purpose. Her debut nonfiction book, Momma, You Don’t Heal, offers an honest, raw, and deeply personal look at what it means to lose a child and live beyond the unthinkable. 💡 Episode Highlights: 🎟 Why grief can feel like a “membership club” no one ever signs up for 💔 What happens when grief becomes something you live with instead of healing from 🧠 The emotional and psychological toll of unresolved grief backed by startling statistics 🗣 The social stigma surrounding child loss and why many grieving mothers feel invisible ✍️ How June used storytelling as a lifeline and why writing helped her process the unimaginable 🕊 A message to mothers who’ve lost children: You’re not alone, and your story still matters 📊 Did you know? Studies show that unresolved grief can lead to serious health issues, including depression, anxiety, immune dysfunction, and even heart disease. One survey found that nearly 1 in 4 bereaved parents experience symptoms of PTSD. (Source: NIH, American Psychological Association) 🔗 Connect with June Kraholik: Website: authorjunekraholik.com Instagram: @authorjunekraholik Book: Momma, You Don’t Heal on Amazon 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode moved you, challenged you, or gave you something to think about, don’t keep it to yourself! Please leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and let us know how stepping into the guest’s shoes impacted you.

🎙BONUS: The Change 🧩 Unmade: 🛏️ Like an unmade bed, this season leans into the raw, honest, and often messy moments of life—the ones where everything we thought we knew unravels. It’s in these unmade spaces that we begin to see what’s real, what matters, and who we truly are becoming. 🩵💔 What if the worst moment of your life didn’t destroy you, but instead uncovered your calling? 🔥 In the wake of an unthinkable tragedy, Kathy Sanders did something few would dare: she stepped closer to the pain, asked the hardest questions, and refused to be silenced. 👣 This isn’t just a story about grief. It’s about uncovering the truth, no matter where it leads—and choosing to remain unchanged by a broken world. 👣 Kathy Sanders never intended to become an advocate, author, or investigator. But when the Oklahoma City bombing claimed the lives of her two young grandsons on April 19, 1995, everything in her life came unmade. 💥👼👼 As she mourned, a deeper question haunted her: Was the story we were told the whole truth? 📖 Nearly thirty years later, Kathy’s relentless pursuit of answers has uncovered disturbing evidence of a broader conspiracy—connecting domestic terrorism to far-right extremists, militia groups, and possible government failures. Her book, Shadows of Conspiracy, and her appearance in the Max documentary An American Bombing: The Road to April 19th, challenge us to look beyond the headlines and confront the truths we might rather ignore. 🎶 This bonus episode takes its name from the Garth Brooks song “The Change,” which reminds us that sometimes our actions aren’t about changing the world, but about refusing to let the world change us: 🎵 And I hear them saying, "You'll never change things And no matter what you do It's still the same thing." But it's not the world that I am changing I do this so, this world we know Never changes me What I do is so, this world will know That it will not change me" 🕊️ Previously on Other People’s Shoes, we spoke with David Thibodeau, one of the survivors of the Waco standoff, another event closely tied to the timeline that led to April 19th. 👉 Listen to that powerful conversation here: Season Finale: Waco 💡 Episode Highlights: 👩‍👦 Kathy’s deeply personal story of loss and how it led to a life of uncovering the truth 🕵️‍♀️ The disturbing patterns and overlooked evidence that challenge the official narrative 🕊️ What it means to pursue justice without bitterness 🎤 The power of staying grounded in your convictions—even when the world says, "You’ll never change things" 🪞 How does this story fit into the larger theme of living through the “unmade” moments 🔗 Connect with Kathy Sanders: 📘 Book: Shadows of Conspiracy 📱 Facebook: facebook.com/kathy.sanders.90 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: ⭐ If this episode moved you, challenged you, or gave you something to think about, don’t keep it to yourself! Please leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and let us know how stepping into Kathy’s shoes impacted you.

👣 🎙️: "Permission"! My guest today is James Epps Jr.—a man who’s walked through pain most never see and came out stronger on the other side 💥. From surviving sexual assault and suicidal thoughts to rising through the ranks of the U.S. Marine Corps 🇺🇸, James’ story is one of raw resilience, unshakable purpose, and leadership forged in fire 🔥. Now retired, he’s inspiring students, educators, and nonprofits with this truth: 👉 ✅ Key 1: Greatness does not need approval. 👉 ✅ Key 2 Geno Smith said: “They wrote me off—I ain’t write back though.” 🗣️ 🎧 Tap in to hear: 🎒 Overcoming trauma and poverty ✅ Breaking the labels others place on you 🧭 22 years of leadership wisdom 🎤 Finding your voice after the silence 🚫 And why don’t you need anyone’s permission to walk in your purpose 📲 Listen now at opspodcast.com or wherever you get your podcasts! #OtherPeoplesShoes #PermissionPodcast #LeadershipJourney #JamesEppsJr #GreatnessDoesNotNeedApproval #Resilience #MilitaryLeadership #MotivationalSpeaker #GenoSmithQuote #PodcastSeason #Unmade #StepIntoTheirShoes #InspirationDaily #PodcastDrop

⚠️ TRIGGER WARNING: ⚠️ This episode contains sensitive content, including references to sexual violence and trauma. Listener discretion is advised. 🎙 Trapped 👣 This week’s guest, Tam Lawrence, has lived through unimaginable darkness—but her story doesn’t end there. Raped at 14 and put in a cage for two years at the age of 17, Tam's journey is one of extraordinary resilience. Today, she stands as a powerful voice in media, advocacy, and entrepreneurship. Her spirit is unbreakable, her voice unwavering, and her story—one of unmaking and remaking—is unforgettable. The vivacious Tam Lawrence has owned and operated multiple businesses for over three decades. Refusing to let corporate America define her path, she carved out her own destiny—becoming a celebrated entrepreneur, author, media mogul, and activist. From a degree in Human Services to a BA in Communication and Psychology at Marquette, and later a Master’s in Journalism from Kent University, Tam’s academic achievements are just the beginning. She toured the world as a stand-up comic, appeared on BET Comic View, and shared stages with Jamie Foxx and Sommore. Tam founded Exposure Magazine, Exposure Plus TV, and Keynote Magazine, and formed the Urban Media Union to amplify the voices of underrepresented individuals in media. Her career also includes work as a Wisconsin State Lobbyist fighting for vulnerable aging populations. But beyond titles and accolades, Tam is a mother, a survivor, and a fierce advocate for change—proof that even the most unmade stories can be rewritten into ones of impact and empowerment. 🔗 Connect with Tam Lawrence: Website: https://www.exposure-magazine.com Instagram: @iamtamlawrence YouTube: @ExposurePlusTV 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode moved you, challenged you, or gave you something to think about, don’t keep it to yourself! Please leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and let us know how stepping into Tam’s shoes impacted you.

🎙 Red, White, and Unmade 🇺🇸 🧩 Season Theme: Unmade In a world where life often feels like an unmade bed—chaotic 🌀, imperfect 🧺, and in need of care 💔—we explore the beauty and power of restoration ✨. This season, we spotlight stories of people who are remaking what was once broken, messy, or incomplete 🛠️. 👣 Throughout history, some of the most remarkable Americans—people like Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Martin Luther King Jr., and even the Founding Fathers—looked at the messiness of this nation 🇺🇸 and said, "Enough." They didn’t run from the chaos—they reshaped it 🔥. This week, we welcome someone with that same kind of conviction: David Pasqualone 🙌. A born-again believer ✝️, father of two 👨‍👧‍👦, marketing guru 💼, and host of The Remarkable People Podcast 🎧, David has dedicated his life to helping people and organizations break free from confusion and move toward clarity, purpose, and impact 💡. In this special 4th of July episode 🎆, David joins us to explore the idea of freedom in a fractured nation—and he doesn’t shy away from answering the big question: “What would you change about the United States of America?” 🗽 💡 Episode Highlights: 🇺🇸 Why David believes messiness is part of the American DNA 📜 Reflecting on the Founding Fathers’ response to chaos and oppression 🔍 How David thinks the USA can get “remade” through purpose and vision ❓ The one thing David would change about America if he could 🔥 A powerful reminder that freedom isn't free—it’s forged in fire and refined in truth 💪 Encouragement to lead by example in a world desperate for leadership 🔗 Connect with David Pasqualone: 🌐 Website: https://davidpasqualone.com 🐦 X (Twitter): @davepasqualone 🎙️ Podcast: The Remarkable People Podcast 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode made you pause 🛑 and think about what’s “unmade” in our nation or even in your own heart, 🩵 leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Let us know what freedom means to you 💬.

🎙 Unbreakable Light 🧩 Season Theme: Unmade Much like an unmade bed can be straightened, so too can the messy and painful parts of our lives be reshaped, redefined, and ultimately redeemed. Unmade is about the journey of becoming, again and again. 👣 What do you do when you're in a place so dark, you can’t see the light—or even remember what light feels like? This week’s guest, Carolyn Sophia Skowron, brings us into her raw, real, and redemptive story of navigating life with Nonverbal Learning Disability, depression, and anxiety. From childhood bullying to relentless self-doubt and anxiety, Carolyn often felt invisible and unworthy. She grew up believing she was broken—until she started to rebuild. One moment stands out in her story: the day of a hit-and-run car accident. At the very last second, just before impact, Carolyn reached for her seatbelt and buckled it—an act that quite literally saved her life. That moment became more than just physical survival; it symbolized a turning point. It was as if something deep inside her said, You still matter. You’re still worth saving. That split-second decision became the spark that led her on a path to discovering her unbreakable light—a strength that had always been there, waiting to be seen. 💡 Episode Highlights: Carolyn’s experience growing up feeling like an outsider Her diagnosis of Nonverbal Learning Disability (NVLD) and what it revealed The mental toll of bullying, isolation, and internalized self-hate The hit-and-run accident—and how reaching for her seatbelt became a defining moment The journey from self-doubt to self-awareness How therapy, mindfulness, and inner work transformed her foundation The power of choosing resilience, even in the darkest of places 🔗 Connect with Carolyn Sophia Skowron: Website: www.carolynsophia.com Instagram: @carolynsophiaaa 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode moved you, challenged you, or gave you hope, don’t keep it to yourself! Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and let us know how stepping into Carolyn's shoes impacted you.

🎙STAY 🧩 Season Theme: Unmade 🛏️ Just like an unmade bed, our lives can feel messy, incomplete, or unraveling. But that doesn’t mean they’re beyond hope. This season, we explore the beauty in brokenness—and how what’s unmade can still be remade with purpose, healing, and grace. 👣 Guest Introduction: This week, we invite you to STAY—Stop Thinking About Yourself—with a guest whose story redefines transformation: Frank Meeink. ⚠️ Once a high-profile neo-Nazi skinhead leader, Frank's life was filled with violence, hate, and deep-rooted pain. But in prison, the unexpected happened—he began to see the people he was taught to hate, and his walls started to crumble. 💥 Frank’s incredible story of redemption and reckoning is captured in his book, Autobiography of a Recovering Skinhead 📖. Today, he speaks boldly about the dangers of radicalization and the power of second chances. His journey reminds us that no one is too far gone, and no story too broken to be rebuilt. 🧱💔➡️❤️ 💡 Episode Highlights: 🧠 How early pain and ideology shaped Frank’s worldview 🪪 The people in prison who changed his mind—and heart 🔁 What it takes to unlearn hate and rewrite your story 🕊️ Why humility and listening are tools for real change 🫶 The challenge to stay present in others' pain, not just your own 🔗 Connect with Frank Meeink: 📘 Book: Autobiography of a Recovering Skinhead 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode opened your eyes, stirred your heart, or helped you see someone differently, don’t keep it to yourself! 🗣️ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share how Frank’s journey helped you choose to STAY. 💬🩵

🎙 9 Percent 🧩 Season Theme: Unmade This season, we walk into the unexpected—where life unravels, dreams collapse, and identities shift. But sometimes, being unmade is the first step toward being remade. What do we do when the timeline of our lives breaks beyond repair? 👣 Guest Introduction: This week, I’m joined by Jill Pavlov, a magnetic voice in the world of messaging and storytelling. She’s the founder of Copy POP!, where she helps women transform the chaos in their heads into powerful words they’re proud to say out loud. Jill is helping in assisting entrepreneurs clarify their brand message. She was an entertainment reporter, learning firsthand how presence, performance, and storytelling can command a room. In this episode, Jill opens up with raw honesty about her battle with eating disorders and addiction — the parts of her story that were messy, hidden, and tangled. With courage and insight, she shares how being unmade cracked her open, eventually giving her the clarity and confidence she brings to her work today. 💡 Episode Highlights: What it means to be part of the 9%: the estimated portion of the U.S. population who will face an eating disorder Why the struggle often remains unseen, especially for women in their 40s and 50s Jill’s journey through addiction, disordered eating, and the turning point toward healing How clutter, both internal and external, reflects the chaos of our lives — and how we begin to clear it The parallels between making a bed and rebuilding a life Why storytelling isn’t just about words, but about reclaiming your voice 🔗 Connect with Jill Pavlov: Linkedin: Instagram: 🎧 Listen & Follow Other People’s Shoes: 👟 Website 🩵 Instagram 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube 📣 Leave Us a Review: If this episode moved you, challenged you, or gave you something to think about, don’t keep it to yourself! Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and let us know how stepping into Jill’s shoes impacted you.

🎙️ Episode Title: "🐛 Hungry Caterpillar" 👟 Theme: Season of Unmade — In this season, we explore what happens when life takes us apart, only to reveal who we were truly meant to be. Sometimes we have to be unmade to be remade. 🔄🦋 🎤 Guest Introduction: What’s your greatest pet peeve? 😤 Maybe it's slow drivers 🚗💨, loud chewing 😬, or people who always interrupt. But for today’s guest, Jordan Miller, it's something deeper: accepting things as truth without asking the hard questions. ❓🧠 Jordan was raised as a devout member of the LDS (Latter-day Saint) faith 🙏. He believed. He served. He followed. But inside, a hunger began to grow — a hunger for authenticity, for answers, for truth. 🌱 Eventually, he stepped away from everything he knew to become a truth seeker 🧭. Inspired by his childhood fascination with Bill Nye the Science Guy 🔬🧪, Jordan now approaches life like a science experiment — testing, questioning, and evolving. Just like a caterpillar, always hungry for more 🐛, Jordan’s journey is one of continuous transformation. 👉 Join me as I step into Jordan’s shoes. 🔍 Episode Highlights: 💬 What was it like growing up in the LDS community ⚖️ Wrestling with doubt, truth, and letting go 🔭 How science and critical thinking became guiding forces 🧪 Life as a spiritual experiment 🐛 The metaphor of the hungry caterpillar — growing through curiosity and change 🌐 Guest Links: 📎 Jordan’s AI click here 🎧 Listen & Subscribe: 🌐 Website: opspodcast.com 📱 Stay Connected with the Show: Want more behind-the-scenes content, guest highlights, and inspiring moments? Follow Other People’s Shoes everywhere you scroll 👇 🩵 Instagram: @opspodcastshow 👍 Facebook: @opspodcastshow 🐦 X (formerly Twitter): @opspodcastshow 📺 YouTube: @opspodcastshow Let’s keep the conversation going — one step at a time 👟💬 🩵 Review & Share: If Jordan’s journey got you thinking 🤔, please leave us a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review — it helps more people discover the show! 📲 Don’t forget to share this episode with someone else who’s hungry for truth too 💬👟 👣 Why It Matters: Stepping into Other People’s Shoes helps us see the world 🌎 through their steps and sometimes, discover the hunger within our hearts.🩵

🎙️ Episode Title: "Just 2 Minutes: What a Mirror Can Teach You About Who You Really Are" 🪞 Theme: Season of Self-Reflection — In the noise of everyday life, it's easy to underestimate what can happen in a short window of time. But what if just two minutes ⏱️ could start to shift your mindset 🧠, your confidence 💪, and even the course of your day 🌅? 👤 Guest Introduction: Today’s guest, Kaitlyn Cook—that’s Kaitlyn with a K from the UK 🇬🇧—joins us from across the ocean 🌍 with a story that might just change how you see your own reflection—literally 🪞. As a coach 🎯, digital nomad 🧳, and entrepreneur 💼, Kaitlyn helps people realign their lives with their deepest values 💖. But her own journey started with a feeling many of us know all too well: burnout 🔥. After walking away 🚶‍♀️ from a corporate job and the conventional path she was “supposed” to follow, Kaitlyn began rebuilding her identity—starting with intentional moments in the mirror 🔄. Her personal mission is now centered around helping others create sustainable change 🌱 by showing up honestly—even if it’s only for two minutes a day ⏰. In this episode, Kaitlyn opens up about what those two minutes have taught her—and how they can teach you, too. 💡 ✨ Episode Highlights: 🌍 The digital nomad life: Why Kaitlyn chose to leave it all behind and travel the world 🔑 A defining decision: The moment that cracked open her perspective on time, energy, and self-trust 🪞 Mirror moments: How 120 seconds of eye contact with yourself can break old patterns and build new courage 🧘 The power of presence: Why being brutally honest with yourself is one of the most empowering things you can do 💪 Confidence isn’t built in hours—it’s built in minutes: How short, intentional practices can reshape how you show up in your life 🌱 Why starting small is the bravest move of all 🔗 Guest Links: 🌐 Website: kaitlyncook.co 📸 Instagram: @kaitlyncook.co 📺 YouTube: Click Here 📡 Podcast Links: 🎧 Website: opspodcast.com 📱 Instagram: @OPSpodcastshow 👍 Facebook: @OPSpodcastshow ✖️ X (formerly Twitter): @OPSpodcastshow 📣 Call to Action: What could you change in just two minutes? ⏳ Today’s conversation is both a challenge and an invitation 📨. The next time you find yourself in front of a mirror, take a breath 🧘, look yourself in the eye 👁️, and speak truth over your life 💬. No filters, no distractions—just two minutes of you with you. If Kaitlyn’s story moved you ❤️, share this episode with a friend 🤝 who might need a reminder that small things can still spark big change ⚡. And if you haven’t already, leave us a review ⭐—your words mean the world 🌍 and help more people step into Other People’s Shoes 👟. Would you like this version as a graphic, formatted text file, or added to a publishing platform?

🎙 Mind Reset: Mark Anthony 👤 Guest Intro: Laughter, entertainment, just playing around, hoodwinked, hypnosis, bamboozled — today’s episode might start with a few laughs, but don’t be fooled. My guest, world-renowned hypnotist Mark Anthony, brings a story that’s anything but a trick. Raised in the chaos of Southeast London — surrounded by violence, abandonment, and addiction — Mark’s life spiraled through crime, prison, and pain. But behind bars, he made one life-altering decision. And that choice became the mind reset that changed everything. ⚠️ Important Warning: While hypnosis can be a powerful tool for healing and transformation, it is not a game. In the wrong hands, it can be dangerous and even destructive. Please use extreme caution when exploring hypnosis and always seek trained, ethical professionals. 🎧 Episode Highlights: With a violent and chaotic childhood, Mark fought to survive How abandonment, abuse, and betrayal shaped his early years The moment in prison that shifted everything Discovering hypnosis — and how it gave him his life back Why Mark’s story isn’t about tricks, but transformation Using hypnotism to help others rise above the mess The powerful reminder: It’s not where you start, it’s what you choose 🔗 Guest Links: Mark Anthony’s Book link Social Handle @markanthonyhypnotist 🎙 Podcast Info: 👟 Other People’s Shoes Links: 🌐 Website: opspodcast.com 📸 Instagram: @opspodcastshow 👍 Facebook @opspodcastshow X @opspodcastshow 🗣 Call to Action: If you've ever believed your past was too broken to come back from, let this episode be your wake-up call. Share it with someone who needs a mind reset of their own. And don’t forget to rate and leave a review — your voice helps others find hope in their hardest moments.

🎙️ Broken Timeline ❓ True or False: Does Time Really Heal ALL Wounds? 🧩 Season Theme: Unmade This season on Other People’s Shoes, we explore what happens when life falls apart—when plans unravel, timelines break, and we’re left standing in the pieces. But sometimes, being unmade is what allows us to be remade into something stronger, deeper, and more real. 👣 Guest Introduction: In 2012, Debbie White Wilkins Baisden’s timeline shattered. Her husband disappeared without warning, gone for 40 unbearable hours. When he was found, her reality shifted forever. Debbie became a widow at just 35. Now left to raise four sons—ages 8, 7, and 4-year-old twins—she stepped into a life she never planned for, marked by sorrow, strength, and spiritual discovery. So, does time really heal all wounds—or does it simply teach us how to carry them? Join me as I walk in Debbie’s shoes through a "Broken Timeline" and discover the truth behind the pain and the possibility of healing. ⏳💔 ✨ Episode Highlights: ❓ True or false? The myth and reality of time as a healer. ⏱️ What it was like living through 40 hours of fear and uncertainty. 👩‍👦‍👦 The emotional weight of parenting through profound loss. 🙏 How faith played a role in navigating grief and resilience. 🔄 The power of perspective, and how brokenness can birth unexpected strength. 🔗 Guest Links: 🌐 Debbie's Website 📸 Instagram: @fitwithdeb 👍 Facebook: click here 👟 Other People’s Shoes Links: 🌐 Website: www.otherpeopleshoes.org 📸 Instagram: @opspodcastshow 👍 Facebook @opspodcastshow X @opspodcastshow 💬 Call to Action: If Debbie’s journey moved you, share this episode with someone walking through their own season of brokenness. 💌 And don’t forget to leave a ⭐ rating or 💬 review—it helps others discover powerful stories like this one and walk in Other People’s Shoes.

🎙️ Season 20 Premiere: “Realigning the Compass” with Best-Selling Author Sean Grant Ever feel like you're navigating life with a broken compass? One minute you're heading north, the next you're spinning in circles—disoriented, overwhelmed, and unsure where you went off track. In this powerful kickoff to Season 20, we dive into what it means to be unmade—to sit in the mess, the unknown, the in-between—and discover it’s not the end, but the beginning. Joining us today is Sean Grant, best-selling author and transformational speaker, whose life is living proof that clarity often comes from chaos. With seven books to his name, Sean has mastered the art of realignment—not just writing about transformation, but living it every day. 🔑 In this episode: What it feels like to lose direction—and how to find your way back Why your “unmade” moments might be sacred invitations The power of surrender, trust, and divine timing How to shift your mindset from “waiting” to welcoming what’s next A sneak peek into Sean’s latest book and the bold question it asks: Who would you be if you believed everything you wanted was already on its way, guaranteed, right on time? This conversation is more than just a story—it’s a call to realign your inner compass, breathe easier, and step boldly into the life that’s waiting for you. Join me as I step into Shaun's shoes. 🔗 Connect with SHAUN GRANT: Website Link Instagram: @iamshaugrant Latest Book Link 👣 Step into Other People's Shoes: WEBSITE: opspodcast.com SOCIALS: @OPSPODCASTSHOW ON FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM AND X Support the show: click here Rate & Review If today’s episode spoke to you, share it with a friend and leave us a review—it will help more people step into Other People’s Shoes. click here

Season Finale – Heart Pain (Unedited & Unfiltered) 🎙 Other People's Shoes Podcast – Season 19: X-Ray "This is the first episode I’ve ever released completely raw—no edits, no filters. Just real, unflinching truth. It’s a big step for me… and maybe it will be for you, too." Are you haunted by the pain of sexual trauma? Do you carry shame, anxiety, and anger like a second skin? Does healing feel like a far-off dream you’re unsure how to reach? In this powerful and deeply personal season finale, I sit down with Nancy Manassero, author of Heartmending, who shares her raw and redemptive journey through sexual trauma, and how Christ met her in the middle of the pain. Nancy’s story is not just about surviving—it’s about reclaiming joy, wholeness, and identity. Through Scripture, research, prayer, and vulnerability, she invites others to: ♥ Overcome shame that silences ♥ Make peace with the “why” ♥ Establish healing soul-care habits ♥ Break free from forgiveness myths ♥ Discover lasting freedom and hope If you’ve been living in survival mode, it's time to step out. If you’ve been waiting for a sign that healing is possible, this is it. This episode is raw, real, and resurrecting. It’s the kind of conversation that may start your journey toward mending your heart. 🎧 Listen in—and maybe, just maybe, find what your soul’s been searching for. Let me know if you'd like any other adjustments!, author of Heartmending, who shares her raw and redemptive journey through sexual trauma, and how Christ met her in the middle of the pain. To learn more about Nancy, click here Nancy’s story is not just about surviving—it’s about reclaiming joy, wholeness, and identity. Through Scripture, research, prayer, and vulnerability, she invites others to: ♥ Overcome shame that silences ♥ Make peace with the “why” ♥ Establish healing soul-care habits ♥ Break free from forgiveness myths ♥ Discover lasting freedom and hope If you’ve been living in survival mode, it's time to step out. If you’ve been waiting for a sign that healing is possible, this is it. This episode is raw, real, and resurrecting. It’s the kind of conversation that may start your journey toward mending your heart. 🎧 Listen in—and maybe, just maybe, find what your soul’s been searching for. 💠 Remember, when you walk in Other People's Shoes, you get a different perspective! 💠 Love the show? Don’t miss an episode—subscribe on your favorite podcast platform today! If you’re feeling generous, I'd be thrilled if you left me a review — 💠 Catch up on past episodes: www.opspodcast.com 💠 Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | X → @opspodcastshow