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A podcast focusing on issues related to nonviolence

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A podcast focusing on issues related to nonviolence








(36) SE2: Abstention from Political Idolatry

This episode looks at how our political idolatry has caused us to remove a vital moral option from our repertoire - abstention in voting. We explore how abstention compares to the biblical call of justice in our lives, as well as looking at how abstention can actually shape the social and political landscape.


(35) Consequentialism: The Moral Conundrum of Lying to Save Lives

Is it wrong to tell a little white lie in order to save an oppressed minority you're harboring in order to avoid genocide? Such a claim seems unreasonable and unlovingly rigid. In this episode we look at the ramifications of accepting lying as a moral option.


(34) Consequentialism: The Moral Conundrum of the M.A.S.H. Baby

We return to the conundrum that started it all for me - the M.A.S.H. baby. We take a look at the morality of taking a life in order to save other lives.


(33) Consequentialism: The Moral Conundrum of Ectopic Pregnancies

We take all we've discussed in the previous eight episodes and begin to look at specific moral conundrums. We specifically begin with ectopic pregnancies, since for pro-life, conservative Christians, the morality of this issue is very settled and clear for most. That makes uncovering inconsistencies in the generally accepted morality here an easy entry point.


(32) Consequentialism: My Consequentialist Ethic and Love

I take a look at how consequentialism affected the way I loved.


(31) Consequentialism: My Consequentialist Ethic and Generosity

I take a look at the third area in which consequentialism impacted my life - in my generosity.


(30) Consequentialism: My Consequentialist Ethic and Forgiveness

I continue to look at how consequentialism has affected my life by looking at how it shaped my view of forgiveness. I look at some issues consequentialists tend to have with forgiveness and how that compares to what the Bible says.


(29) Consequentialism: My Consequentialist Ethic and Grace

The next four episodes deal with how God has uncovered the problems of consequentialism in my own life. The first area I want to explore is how consequentialism undermined the grace I showed (or failed to show) others, and my own view of the grace I needed myself.


(28) SE: Christianity Today's Article and Betrayal

Special Edition: The recent release of Christianity Today's article addressing the moral incompatibility of major party candidate's with Christ's call is very fitting for our current discussion on consequentialism. Therefore, we take a short break from hypotheticals to inspect the Right's reaction to CT's article, as I unpack my sentiments and observations.


(27) Consequentialism: The Negative Ethic in the Bible

After looking at the BIble's positive ethic of faithfulness, as well as problems with the consequentialist ethic borne out in the Lesser of Two Evils ideology - we now turn to look at examples of consequentialist actions in the Bible. What sorts of problems did consequentialism get biblical characters into, and how does the BIble seem to view such actions?


(26) Consequentialism: Problems with the Lesser of Two Evils Ethic

Christians often invoke the lesser of two evils (LOTE) concept as a way of making decisions in difficult circumstance. I argue, however, that this ethic is in direct opposition to the Christian ethic revealed to us by God, as it calls us to enjoin ourselves to evil rather than maintain holy obedience and trust in God's power through our weakness. In this episode, I identify eight problems found in the LOTE ethic.


(25) Consequentialism: The Positive Christian Ethic

I explore the positive ethic to which the BIble calls us - holy faithfulness. I conclude that obedience, not sacrifice - faithfulness, not effectiveness, is the life to which we are called.


(24) Consequentialism: The Heart of Compromise

I discuss how God uncovered the ethic of consequentialism in my life, and how I've found that it continues to be uncovered in both myself and my community. In this episode I discuss how consequentialism is at the heart of many of our compromises and confusions in regard to ethics and morality.


(23) The Case for Christian Nonviolence: Conclusion

This episode concludes our look at the case for Christian nonviolence. I recap the main points as well as some of the main rebuttals and counterrebuttals. This is a great episode to refresh your memory as to all we've talked about, or, if you're new, a great episode you can use to preview the podcast and erect a framework from which to listen.


(22) The Case for Christian Nonviolence: Resource Recommendations

A list of resource recommendations and explanations to help you further your research


(21) Rebuttal: Responding to C.S. Lewis's "Why I Am Not a Pacifist"

C.S. Lewis is a great and respected Christian thinker who was adamantly opposed to pacifism. We'll take a look at what he had to say and discuss how much weight his arguments carry.


(20) Rebuttal: Would You Really Allow an Intruder to Harm Your Family? (Part 2- the Practical)

We continue our discussion of how the nonviolent advocate responding to aggressors. Whereas the last episode evaluated the basis of the question and aimed to undercut some of the supposed moral underpinnings assumed in the question, in this episode we attempt to actually answer the question, "what would you do if...?"


(19) Rebuttal: Would You Really Allow an Intruder to Harm Your Family? (Part 1- the Moral)

Perhaps the biggest hang-up with those assessing the merits of nonviolence is the scenario of an intruder who comes to harm you, your spouse, or your children. Is the loving, moral thing to do seriously to restrain yourself from using violence? In the first part we'll look at the moral aspect of this question.


(18) Rebuttal: Violence is Sometimes Necessary

We know that there are certain circumstances where only violence can bring about good. Don't we? We explore a situation where refusing to do violence is seemingly passive, and even evil.


(17) Rebuttal: The New Holocaust

Pacifism may be good in theory, but how does it face up against the reality of extreme evil? What good would pacifism do if there were another Holocaust?