
The Next Pats Podcast - A Patriots Podcast
NBC Sports Boston
"The Next Pats Podcast" focuses on the NFL Draft and free agency for the New England Patriots. NBC Sports Boston's Phil Perry welcomes guests and breakdowns every aspect of the Patriots offseason, including free-agency and the NFL Draft.
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"The Next Pats Podcast" focuses on the NFL Draft and free agency for the New England Patriots. NBC Sports Boston's Phil Perry welcomes guests and breakdowns every aspect of the Patriots offseason, including free-agency and the NFL Draft.
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English
Episodes
Why Drake Maye CAN handle the Josh McDaniels’ offense
9/11/2025
A lot of questions this week surrounding whether there is “too much” on Drake Maye’s plate. So who better to ask than former Patriots QB and BFF of the podcast, Matt Cassel?! Cassel breaks down the expectations of a QB in the New England system, and discusses what the Patriots can do to set up Drake for success in Week 2.
1:00 - Drake Maye says there is not too much on his plate
2:00 - Matt Cassel details expectations for Drake Maye in the Patriots offense
9:00 - How can the Patriots set up Drake for success?
13:30 - Who’s Next?!: College players to watch this weekend
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Duration:00:24:02
Dante Scarnecchia dives deep on how the Patriots can get the MOST out of Will Campbell
9/4/2025
Phil Perry talks with former Patriots offensive line coach, Dante Scarnecchia, to get his thoughts on the Patriots starting two rookies on the offensive line. How can the Patriots set their OL up for success this season? What’s Dante’s first impressions of Will Campbell? Later, Phil answers your questions and shares a few college players to keep an eye on this season.
2:45-Dante Scarnecchia on the Patriots starting 2 rookies on the offensive line
6:45-Dante love the “motor” of Will Campbell
12:30-Dante's advice for Campbell taking it to the next level in the NFL
20:30-Who's Next?! College players to keep an eye on
23:00-Next Pats mailbag
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Duration:00:27:11
Best-kept SECRET in Patriots rookie class
8/29/2025
The Patriots’ best-kept secret in their rookie class is an undrafted free agent, but it’s not Efton Chism. Spoiler alert, it’s Elijah Ponder, a 6’3”, 260lb linebacker with insane combine numbers. Phil Perry says it’s a mystery he wasn’t drafted. Listen to an exclusive interview with Ponder, and Phil shares why exactly he likes the rookie so much.
Not only that, but Phil also answers a handful of mailbag questions at the end of the show.
1:04 - Why Elijah Ponder earned a spot on Patriots 53-man roster
3:00 - Elijah Ponder by the numbers
8:38 - What Mike Smith had to say about Elijah Ponder
11:58 - Phil Perry has an exclusive interview with Elijah Ponder
21:30 - Mailbag Questions
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Duration:01:01:47
Patriots camp superlatives: Drake Maye, TreVeyon Henderson LEADING THE WAY
8/22/2025
Best player? Most surprising? Phil Perry hands out his superlatives for Patriots training camp. Many young and new players dominate the categories. Plus, with cut-down day just days away, Phil discusses his 53-man roster projection. Finally, you hear from Matthew Berry about all things fantasy football related to the Patriots. Are there any players actually worth picking up this season?
1:01 - Patriots camp superlatives
1:25 - Best player
2:56 - Most surprising player
3:51 - Most disappointing player
5:28 - Biggest takeaway
9:34 - Best free agent signing
12:26 - Rookie of camp
14:26 - 53-man roster projection
22:10 - Interview with Matthew Berry
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Duration:00:34:48
How Drake Maye showed REAL GROWTH during Vikings joint practices
8/14/2025
Phil Perry breaks down Day 2 of the joint practice with the Vikings. He discusses the offense’s struggles, highlights a bright spot in Drake Maye, and provides reacts to the latest on Stefon Diggs.
1:00 Breaking down Day 2 of joint practices in Minnesota
14:00 Stock Watch after two days with the Vikings
18:00 - What's going on with Stefon Diggs?
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Duration:00:25:33
Why Pop Douglas was able to LIGHT IT UP against the Commanders
8/7/2025
Phil Perry is back with a new Next Pats Podcast. Phil is sharing his takeaways from the Patriots' joint practice vs. the Commanders, how DeMario Douglas will be utilized in Josh McDaniels' offense, and how Mack Hollins is quickly emerging after being on PUP. Later, Phil answers your mailbag questions!
01:00: The Patriots 'belonged' during joint practice with Commanders.
05:00: Why Phil believes Pop Douglas will be the main receiver for the Patriots in 2025
9:55: We hear from Pop Douglas, how being tired of losing is motivating him in 2025 and the impact of Josh McDaniels
12:40: Drake Maye has high praise for Pop Douglas
19:00: Zay Flowers could be a good comp for how McDaniels can use Pop Douglas
21:50: Takeaways from Drake Maye's day vs. the Commanders
33:50: Phil is answering your mailbag questions!
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Duration:00:47:58
Why Kyle Williams is earning drake Maye's TRUST, plus a 1-on-1 with Morgan Moses
7/31/2025
Phil Perry shares his main takeaways from Day 8 of training camp practice for the New England Patriots before welcoming in offensive tackle Morgan Moses for an exclusive 1-on-1 interview.
1:30- Phil shares what’s impressed him the most about Drake Maye so far in camp
3:20- Kyle Williams is already showing his resiliency and ability to bounce back from bad plays
5:40- Offensive line update
7:35- Morgan Moses on his first camp with the Patriots and working with the team’s rookie linemen
15:20- Phil previews his potential 53-man roster, including a shocking cut in the receiver room
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Duration:00:18:12
Patriots rookie class ALREADY opening eyes in camp
7/24/2025
Phil Perry is back with another episode of the Next Pats Podcast! In this episode, Phil breaks down what he's seen through the first two days of Patriots training camp, whose stock is up, whose stock is down, plus an exclusive interview with Hunter Henry.
3:00 - Where young Patriots sit in their respective pecking orders, how Drake Maye looks through first two practices in Josh McDaniels' offense
8:45 - Not a great two days for the 2024 draft class, including the absence of Ja'Lynn Polk.
11:30 - TreVeyon Henderson and Kyle Williams' stock is up
13:10 - Pecking order at WR
16:00 - Breaking down emerging trends in the NFL: 2 TE sets
20:10 - Exclusive with Hunter Henry after day 2 of training camp
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Duration:00:28:20
Why Terry McLaurin would make the PERFECT Patriot
7/18/2025
Phil Perry welcomes in JP Finlay of NBC4 Sports Washington to get his thoughts on what's going on between the Washington Commanders and wide receiver Terry McLaurin, before sharing his camp battles to watch and opening up the mailbag to answer your questions!
1:00- Phil shares his thoughts on the contract dispute between Terry McLaurin and the Commanders and what it could mean for the Patriots
6:55- JP Finlay joins to share his thoughts on how likely it is that McLaurin could become available and why he thinks Washington is hesitant to extend the receiver at the moment
20:30- Phil previews Patriots training camp by sharing his five breakout candidates, and five position battles to watch
38:10- Phil opens up the mailbag to answer your questions
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Duration:00:46:11
How much more does Drake Maye need for an ELITE surrounding cast?
7/1/2025
Phil Perry dives deep into NFL pass protection, ranking every team's offensive line. But where do the New England Patriots stand when it comes to protecting Drake Maye? Have they truly done enough to give him the clean pocket he needs to succeed? Find out where the Patriots rank league-wide and what it means for Maye's development.
4:00-Ranking the offensive lines around the NFL
8:30-Which category do the Patriots fall under?
13:30-Phil's full breakdown of the Patriots’ overall ranks
16:30-Overall rankings, which team protected their QB the best?
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Duration:00:30:22
Why Josh McDaniels and Drake Maye will PRODUCE in 2025
6/24/2025
Phil Perry continues his "Three P's" series - playmakers, play-callers, and protection. In this episode, he breaks down the play-callers, and where Josh McDaniels ranks among offensive play-callers in the league. Phil also breaks down how McDaniels can get Drake Maye and the Pats to exceed expectations.
03:30: Josh McDaniels is the most interesting person to watch at 1 Patriot Place this season
11:00: If Drake Maye can handle everything Josh McDaniels throws at him, the offense could be better than expected
18:00: Don't be surprised if DeMario Douglas is used more under McDaniels this season
26:33: Ranking all offensive play-callers in the NFL
40:00: Josh McDaniels ranks as 11th overall play-caller in the NFL
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Duration:00:42:08
Playmaker rankings: What are REALISTIC expectations for Stefon Diggs?
6/20/2025
Phil Perry kicks off his "Three P's" series - playmakers, playcallers, and protection. He starts with a deep dive into playmakers, ranking the top talent across the league and analyzing where the Patriots stack up. Plus, Phil answers your mailbag questions.
1:00 - Overall thoughts on Patriots' group of weapons
20:00 - Playmaker rankings
53:00 - Answering your mailbag questions
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Duration:01:23:52
Why Drake Maye thinks he's HITTING HIS STRIDE in the new Patriots offense
6/12/2025
Phil Perry is wrapping up what he saw from Patriots minicamp, giving us his 'way too early' 52-man roster projection and wrapping up with his latest mailbag!
02:00 - Takeaways from Patriots minicamp - offense improves but still a lot of work to do to get to where they want to be in the regular season
09:30 - No-huddle period miscommunication between Stefon Diggs, Hunter Henry and Drake Maye
11:55 - Phil is concerned about the interior offensive line
15:48 - Patriots secondary looked NASTY! Christian Gonzalez the MVP of minicamp
23:30 - Drake Maye discusses being a leader and benefit of being hard on teammates
24:40 - "Ridiculously early 53-man roster prediction"
42:50 - Phil Perry's mailbag!
48:00 - Kendrick Bourne not a lock to make the roster
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Duration:01:03:09
Kyle Williams WORK ETHIC already impressing Patriots: Who to watch out for at minicamp
6/5/2025
Phil Perry is back with a new episode of the Next Pats Podcast. Phil discusses Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers, 8 things to look out for during Patriots minicamp next week, and takes your questions with a new mailbag!
2:15: Aaron Rodgers to the Pittsburgh Steelers - what it means for the Patriots and what NFL evaluators are saying about him
7:45: 8 things to look out for at Patriots mini camp next week, including a deep dive into Stefon Diggs and Rookie Kyle Williams
18:00: We hear from receivers coach Todd Downing and get his thoughts about Kyle Williams
25:40: What Phil is hoping to see from TreVeyon Henderson in Josh McDaniels' offense
38:00: Hear from TE coach Thomas Brown about finding the right players to play fullback.
46:00: Mailbag! Phil answers your questions
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Duration:00:59:31
Taking you INSIDE Patriots OTAs: How does Drake Maye look?
5/29/2025
Phil's tackling all your mailbag questions this week, covering everything from Drake Maye’s demeanor at OTAs to how the Patriots might approach the Stefon Diggs situation. He also dives into whether growing pains could linger into the start of the season and wraps it all up with a breakdown of his latest quarterback rankings
4:00-Examining Drake Maye’s demeanor at OTAs
16:00 - Should we expect growing pains to carry over into the season?
28:30 - How will the Patriots handle the Diggs situation?
49:00 - Phil breaks down his QB rankings
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Duration:01:03:43
NOBODY PANIC about Drake Maye’s interceptions; getting to know rookie Craig Woodson
5/21/2025
Phil Perry empties his notebook with his biggest takeaways from Patriots OTAs on Tuesday. Later, Phil talks with Cal’s head coach Justin Wilcox to get to know more about Craig Woodson.
4:00-Let's not panic about Drake Maye throwing 4 interceptions
11:00-How much will be on Maye’s plate under a Josh McDaniels’ offense?
15:30-The offensive variety we saw from McDaniels
18:30-First impressions of the rookies
28:00-Justin Wilcox interview
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Duration:00:43:21
Why a STEER WRESTLING rookie could grab a Patriots roster spot
5/12/2025
An undrafted free agent RB who used to be a steer-wrestler and turned down NIL money to stay a captain at UC Davis?!? Phil Perry talks with UC Davis head coach, Tim Plough, to get more insight on Lan Larison.
2:00-Perry's first impressions of Lan Larison at rookie mini-camp
6:30-Tim Plough on the football character of Larison
11:00-Plough on where the Patriots can use Lan
21:00-Lan turned down NIL money to stay with his team
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Duration:00:37:13
Rookie Camp Takeaways: Mike Vrabel is a MACHINE
5/9/2025
Phil Perry opens up the notebook and shares his main takeaways from the Patriots' first day of rookie minicamp.
2:20- Phil reacts to defensive coordinator Terrell Williams not being at practice due to a "traumatic" health scare
4:40- Who was, and wasn't, in attendance for the rookies on Friday?
8:20- Takeaway 1: Mike Vrabel's hands-on coaching approach continues to impress and entertain
12:10- Takeaway 2: Will Campbell was at left tackle -- and ONLY at left tackle on Friday
16:30- Takeaway 3: Josh McDaniels was loud and clearly excited to be back on the field running an offense
18:25- Takeaway 4: Kyle Williams looks like an "X"/ deep-threat receiver... and seems to have that dog in him
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Duration:00:26:07
Could Efton Chism III be Cooper Kupp 2.0 for the Patriots?
5/7/2025
Phil Perry talks with Aaron Best, Head coach at Eastern Washington University, to get his scouting report on Efton Chism III. How similar is his game to former EWU Eagle Cooper Kupp? Later, Phil breaks down his ‘most improved’ players on the Patriots’ roster heading into next season.
1:00-The scouting report on Efton Chism III
6:30-Coach Aaron Best on the football character of Chism
12:00-Could Chism be Cooper Kupp 2.0?
26:30-’Most improved’ players on the Patriots’ roster
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Duration:00:43:35
Patriots got a STEAL! James White thinks TreVeyon Henderson is a "Home Run" pick
5/1/2025
Phil Perry talks with James White to get his reaction to the Patriots drafting TreVeyon Henderson in the 2025 NFL Draft. James explains why this was a “home run” pick for the Patriots, and breaks down what he likes about Henderson’s game.
6:00-James White calls TreVeyon Henderson a “home run” pick
8:00-Biggest challenge for Henderson to learn Josh McDaniels offense
12:30-White breaks down highlights from Henderson
19:00-Analyzing Henderson's impressive pass protection
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Duration:00:28:14