The Wall Behind and Beyond

On this episode of The Wall Behind and Beyond, Phillip A. Jones had a candid conversation with Tionna Larry, a remarkable young woman who story embodies resilience and purpose. Incarcerated at a young age, Tionna faced challenges that could have broken her spirit, but instead, they fueled her determination to create change. Now, at just 24 years old, she ls leading impactful work to support individuals living with mental illness and advocating for those still behind bars. Her journey from prison to becoming a voice for the voiceless is both powerful and inspiring, a testament to what's possible when you refuse to let your past define your future.

Host Phillip A. Jones had a powerful conversation with Jessica Henry, J.D, professor, author, legal commentator, former public defender, and nationally recognized criminal justice expert. In this candid conversation, they unpack the realities of the criminal legal system, the cries of wrongful convictions, and the systemic mistreatment of people of color.

Host, Phillip A. Jones had a powerful conversation with guest, Travon McCoy, and inspiring voice who is shining beyond the walls of prison. As, I continue hosting The Wall Behind and Beyond, my mission goes beyond sharing my own story. It's about amplifying the voices of those who are working to change the criminal justice landscape, especially those who are still incarcerated, and are often overlooked. We must remember: it's not always about us. Sometimes, it's about making space for others who deserve a first or second chance. So, hats off to my fellow Baltimorean, Travon McCoy, who's not just talking the talk, he's walking the walk.

Host Phillip A. Jones had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the incomparable Hon. Jill P. Carter for a conversation that was nothing short of powerful. The depth, insight, and truth that flowed during this dialogue had me repeatedly saying, "This is fire!" Talk about a trailblazer-Jill P. Carter is the embodiment of strength, wisdom, empathy, and grace. She carries herself with class, compassion, and conviction. A true champion for justice, her legacy is marked by fearless advocacy, a relentless pursuit of equity, and an unwavering commitment to uplifting the voiceless. Her words didn't just speak to the moment-they spoke to the movement.

As we wrap up Second Chance Month, host Phillip A. Jones leads a powerful and thought-provoking conversation with a panel of change-makers to explore what a second chance truly means, personally, and systemically. Each panelists, shares heartfelt reflections on the importance of redemption, accountability, and the urgent need to reimagine justice for those who've been incarcerated. But let us not wait until next April to recognize humanity, offer grace, and extend opportunities. Justice-impacted individuals deserve ongoing support, not just seasonal acknowledgement. Every day is a chance to stand in solidarity, shift narratives, and create space for healing, dignity, and hope. Host: Phillip A. Jones Instagram: Phillip Alvin Jones, Jr Facebook: Phillip Alvin Jones LinkedIn: Phillip A. Jones www.Phillipajonesconsultingllc.com Guests: Bruce Bryan Instagram:Bruce Bryan @bruce.bryan24 LinkedIn: Bruce A. Bryan Jessica Younts, PhD, JD LinkedIn: Jessica Younts, PhD, JD Florida Justice Center Brian Hill LinkedIn: Brian Hill CEO/Founder of Edovo Instagram: Edovo Anne Grossinger Instagram: Anne Grossinger Facebook: Anne Grossinger

In this powerful panel discussion, host Phillip A. Jones engaged in an inspiring conversation with five dynamic leaders in the field of criminal justice reform. The Panelists shared their personal insights on what a second chance truly means to them, and reflected on the significance of April being designated as Second Chance Month. They also offered thoughtful perspectives on what meaningful criminal justice reform should look like-not just for those seeking a second chance, but also for those who were never given a fair first chance. Host: Phillip A. Jones Instagram: Phillip A. Jones, Jr. Instagram: Phillip A Jones Consulting, LLC Facebook: Phillip Alvin Jones LinkedIn: Phillip Alvin Jones Guests: Dr. Stanley Andrisse, MBA, PhD LinkedIn: Stanley Andrisse, MBA, PhD Instagram: Stan Andrisse Facebook: Stan Andrisse Scarlett West Instagram: the_only_scarlett_west A&E 60 Days In. Stuti S. Kokkalera Instagram: Stu_kokkaleraphd LinkedIn: Dr. Stuti S. Kokkalera Assistant Professor at Sam Houston State University Magdalena Tsiongas LinkedIn: Magdalena Tsiongas Instagram: Maryland Second Look Coalition Maryland Second Look Coalition-Convener Dr. Clover A. Perez Instagram: Dr. Clover A. Perez Facebook: Clover A. Perez LinkedIn: Dr. Clover A. Perez Website: www.cloveraperez.com

This week, host Phillip A. Jones, Jr. sits down with the incredible Monica Davis, a correctional nurse turned visionary entrepreneur. Monica shares her powerful journey—from working inside correctional facilities to launching His and Hers Universe LLC, a company dedicated to uplifting both men and women in our cultural communities. She’s also the heart behind They Are Human Too, a moving donation drive that brings essential skincare and religious items to incarcerated individuals—reminding them they are still seen, still valued, still human. Tune in to hear: • What inspired Monica to take action • The deep emotional truths she witnessed behind the walls • How compassion can spark real change in carceral spaces Let this episode move you. Inspire you. Call you to care. Host: Phillip A. Jones, Jr. IG: @phillipalvinjones | @phillipajonesconsultingllc FB & LinkedIn: Phillip Alvin Jones Email: pajconsultingllc@gmail.com Website: phillpajonesconsultingllc.com Guest: Monica Davis IG: @hnhuniverse24 | @theyrehuman2 Website: www.hnhuniverse.org Email: monica@infohnhuniverse.com Phone: 425-549-9292

Host Phillip A. Jones engages Mujahideen Muhammad about the significance of the Second Look Act and its potential to help individuals who have been incarcerated for over 20 years. Dr. Clover A. Perez enriches the discourse with a poignant analogy, encapsulating the emotional journey of rehabilitated individuals who, despite their transformation, remain overlooked by those in positions of power to help with their release.

Louis L. Reed, a name that needs no introduction, remains a pivotal force in driving meaningful change within our criminal justice system. Listen in as Louis imparts profound insights that resonates long after the discussion ends. Host: Phillip A. Jones Website: www.pajconsultingllc.com Instagram: Phillip A. Jones- Instagram Business: Pajconsutingllc LinkedIn: Phillip A. Jones Facebook: Phillip A. Jones X- Phillip A. Jones Guest: Louis L. Reed Website: www.louislreed.org Instagram: Louis L. Reed Facebook: Louis L. Reed X- Louis L. Reed LinkedIn- Louis L. Reed

Phillip had an electrifying conversation with Scarlett West of A&E 60 Days In about her experience and thoughts about jail and what she learned from her experience.

Here the inspiring stoties of three amazing women who are standing strong and supporting their men who are behind the wall.

Jeffrey Deskovic, Esq, M.A, is an internationally recognized wrongful conviction expert and founder of The Jeffrey Deskovic Foundation for Justice. Through his foundation, he has freed 14 wrongful convicted people and helped to passed 6 laws. Attorney, Deskovic serves on the Global Advisory Council of Restorative Justice International, has given 100's presentation nationally and internationally; makes frequent media appearances and has hundreds of articles in print. Jeffrey's motivation is that he spent 16 years in prison from age 16-32 for a murder and rape which he didn't commit prior to being exonerated by DNA Testing. Such a powerful story and one that we invite you to listen to. Host: Phillip A. Jones Instagram: Phillip A. Jones Facebook: Phillip A. Jones Website: www.phillipajonesconsultingllc.com Guest: Jeffrey Deskovic Instagram: Deskovicfoundation Linkedin: Jeffrey Deskovic

I'm honored to have a candid conversation with Attorney Veneta L. Sydnor whose journey is both heart-wrenching and inspiring. Veneta's brother was incarcerated at the tender age of 17. Tired of getting the run around by attorneys, Veneta went to law school and became an attorney so she could represent her brother. Sadly, he died of a heart attack while incarcerated. Veneta is now dedicating her career to represent and fight for justice for those caught up in the criminal legal system. Veneta shares her powerful story, shedding light on the personal and systemic challenges she faced, and her unwavering commitment to advocate for the rights of the incarcerated. This episode promises to be a moving testament to the strength of the human spirit and the enduring quest for justice. Host: Phillip A. Jones Instragram: Phillip A Jones Jr Instragram: Phillip A Jones Consulting LLC Facebook: Phillip Alvin Jones LinkedIn: Phillip Alvin Jones Website: www.phillipajonesconsultingllc.com Guest: Veneta L. Sydnor JD

Host: Phillip A. Jones Instagram: Phillip A. Jones Linkedin: Phillip Alvin Jones X- Phillip A Jones Website: www.phillipajonesconsultingllc.com Guest: Andy Williams Andy Williams Jr., is an abolitionist, minister, social entrepreneur, and applicant for President of the United States," is taking a bold stand against the modern-day practice of legalized slavery. a battle that resonates deeply with the core values of justice and equality. On July 21, 2021 Andy Williams Jr. filed suit [against The United States Government] in the Northern District of Illinois, himself as claimant, representing a class composed of Aboriginal, Indigenous, and African people who are imprisoned, and subjected to forced labor. He courageously challenged the status quo that revolved around the prison-labor exception to the Thirteenth Amendment's prohibition of slavery, a provision he argued violated not only the antislavery principle in Section one of the Thirteenth Amendment, but also the First, Fifth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments. Williams passion for justice is fueled by his life experience. His brother died from an opioid overdose in 2018. His childhood friend was the shooter in the 2019 mass shooting in his Aurora, Illinois at Henry Pratt. Williams campaign represents a movement that seeks to bring the government back to its roots, serving as a protector of our unalienable rights. His vision extends beyond partisanship, aiming for a government that transcends divisions and works for the common good of all American people. It’s time for a new government, one that truly represents the spirit and aspirations of a political body of people.

Bruce Bryan was wrongfully incarcerated at the age of 23 and went on to spend 29 long years in maximum-security prison in New York State. As a result of a corrupt prosecutor who consistently bribed witnesses, and simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time, Bruce was handed down a life sentence for a crime he did not commit. With a deep belief that prison was not where he was supposed to be, a fierce sense of hope and trust in a higher power, Bruce made the decision to let time serve him. Bruce viewed his sentence as time given, not time taken, and maintains that time is the most precious resource that we have. From the outset, Bruce was committed to ensuring he didn’t become hardened by the cold and often violent harshness of the prison system, which more often than not, results in inmates returning back inside its walls, after periods of prolonged separation from humanity.Thus, embarking his journey of transforming his life by pursuing higher education, reading broadly, and exploring as many self-development opportunities as were available to him. Bruce Bryan was granted executive clemency by New York State Governor Kathy Hochul December 2022. He was released from custody April 24, 2023. He is currently fighting for full exoneration and a declaration of innocence. Bruce became the first client of the Perlmutter Center. Attorney Josh Dubin continues to represent him. The re-review of his case is in progress by the Queens County District Attorney’s Office Conviction Integrity Unit. Since being released, Mr. Bryan has spoken at numerous events, including an appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience. Mr. Bryan has attended the French Embassy in support of ending the death penalty and supporting the release of wrongfully convicted death row prisoner, Keith Lamar. Mr. Bryan is passionate about bringing awareness and empowering others through his message of hope, resilience and a commitment to the never-ending journey of self-improvement. Bruce is currently employed as a Senior Client Advocate at the Queens Defenders. Bruce works with a team of skilled attorneys that handle cases across a broad spectrum, ranging from misdemeanors to major trials and homicides. His work encompasses getting involved with clients and advocating for alternatives to incarceration. The goal is to engage in decarceration and limit the impact of a criminal record on employment, housing, education, and public benefits.

Host Phillip A. Jones, Jr. talks with Britney Allen Jones, Founder and CEO of The Chad Lake Foundation about turning tragedy into triumph. Britney runs an organization that brings substantive and holistic support to justice-impacted men and women as they reintegrate into their communities. #justice #prisonreform #redemption #reentry #justicereform #healing Check out our merch page at: www.behindthewall.org if you like what you see, please also check out our host's books on Amazon: Exit 2 Excellence: https://a.co/d/asy1sfk From Risk 2 Resilience: https://a.co/d/ainUiqQ The Chad Lake Foundation can be found here: https://www.thechadlakefoundation.org/

Host Phillip A. Jones talks to Geoffrey King, civil rights attorney and Executive Editor of Open Vallejo, the first non-profit news organization in Vallejo, California. After witnessing police violence in his hometown, Geoff used his education as well as his experiences as a litigator and founded Open Vallejo, the first non-profit news source in Vallejo, California. Over the past several years, Geoff and his team have broken major stories covering the recent badge-bending scandal within the Vallejo Police Department, and digging deep into the coffers and archives of local government. Geoff has brought much needed transparency and a new perspective to reporting and his non-profit, open-source model is changing the face of investigative journalism. We will cover some of Open Vallejo's biggest stories, including the Vallejo Police Department's badge bending scandal. #justice #transparency #freedomofthepress #media

Host Phillip A. Jones, Jr. talks with Crystal Sheffield of Sacramento Area Reentry Collaborative about the changing face of reentry services. Crystal runs an organization that brings advocates and service providers together to pool resources and find alternative ways to support justice-impacted men and women as they reintegrate into their communities. #justice #prisonreform #redemption #reentry #justicereform

Host Phillip A. Jones speaks with Jacqueline Polverari, MSCJ, Executive Director of Evolution Reentry Services. Ms. Polverari is an expert in the reentry arena, and brings her educational, professional and life experiences to the table in a big way for justice-impacted men and women and their families. Ms. Polverari talks about preparing for reentry, how to leave prison with the resources and tools needed to be successful, and how celebrities often do a disservice to the justice advocacy arena by glamorizing incarceration. Don't sleep on this episode, it is fire! #justice #prisonreform #reentryservices #nonprofit #prisonlifemovement Check us out on Patreon for discounts on merch and advance notice on new content: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=89740773 If you love our show, you can support us by purchasing a T-shirt from our new JustUs Apparel clothing line: https://www.behindthewall.org/product-page/new-justus-apparel-try-human-t-shirt

In the second installment of our new series, we go behind the wall and talk to our incarcerated host, Philip A. Jones about his life, his work, and his advice to at-risk youth. Don't miss these short, hard-hitting dives into prison life, justice advocacy and the work we do here at The Wall: Behind and Beyond. #justicereform #prisonlife #advocacy #justiceimpacted #reentryservices