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I'm Jennifer Carole and I am the Lawyer's Daughter. My dad (a lawyer) and my stepmom were murdered in March 1980 in Ventura, California. Through cold case detective work and DNA, our crime was linked to the notorious Golden State Killer. The pod includes real-time reporting and memories. I'll podcast during his preliminary trial in May 2020. It's just me so I'll be using a live, radio-style of podcasting. Feedback always welcome! PS: the blog is LawyersDaughter.com.

I'm Jennifer Carole and I am the Lawyer's Daughter. My dad (a lawyer) and my stepmom were murdered in March 1980 in Ventura, California. Through cold case detective work and DNA, our crime was linked to the notorious Golden State Killer. The pod includes real-time reporting and memories. I'll podcast during his preliminary trial in May 2020. It's just me so I'll be using a live, radio-style of podcasting. Feedback always welcome! PS: the blog is LawyersDaughter.com.

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I'm Jennifer Carole and I am the Lawyer's Daughter. My dad (a lawyer) and my stepmom were murdered in March 1980 in Ventura, California. Through cold case detective work and DNA, our crime was linked to the notorious Golden State Killer. The pod includes real-time reporting and memories. I'll podcast during his preliminary trial in May 2020. It's just me so I'll be using a live, radio-style of podcasting. Feedback always welcome! PS: the blog is LawyersDaughter.com.

Twitter:

@jcarole

Language:

English

Contact:

8312396496


Episodes

Apr 2, 2020 | Interview | A Closer Look at Charlene Smith with Caryl Billings

4/2/2020
Caryl and Charlene grew up together - like sisters as she describes it - and she's one of the only people I know who understood how Charlene ticked. I have loved getting to know Caryl and I am bummed I didn't get to know Charlene better as an adult. I had one last visit, that was everything, and it turns out, it was the same for Caryl. I hope you enjoy this.

Duration:01:01:04

Mar 29, 2020 | In the News | Smith's Murder - Police Closing In Part 2

3/30/2020
From the Star Free Press in October, 1980 continued! We start to learn much more about the crimes, the evidence and the suspects. Greg Zoroya and Rita Beamish dive into the details about the investigation, all the leads they chased and tiny bits of information that help us understand what happened in the house that night. This is part two of two.

Duration:00:34:06

Mar 28, 2020 | In the News | Smith's Murder - Police Closing In Part 1

3/28/2020
From the Star Free Press in October, 1980, we start to learn much more about the crimes, the evidence and the suspects. Greg Zoroya and Rita Beamish dive into the details about the investigation, all the leads they chased and tiny bits of information that help us understand what happened in the house that night. This is part one of two.

Duration:00:26:54

Mar 25, 2020 | In the News | Two Lawsuits, Two Mysteries

3/25/2020
This pod is a little different because I could use your help. There were two lawsuits filed in Ventura in late 1980 and early 1981. One was by us, dad's kids, for wrongful death. The other was against my dad's estate, brought by one of his business partners who was left "holding the bag". In both cases, we have more of a mystery than answers. Maybe you'll know what I should do next!

Duration:00:37:57

March 23, 2020 | Bonus | Audio Version of My Live Talk (version with slides on Lawyers Daughter YouTube)

3/24/2020
Here's the audio version of my live talk - the audio/visual version is here on YouTube: https://youtu.be/yyFcM8h85d4. The video has slides of photos you might find interesting. This is the jist of our whole story, or at least the Readers' Digest version (that means it's high-level and moves across time rather quickly). Also features guest audio from one of DeAngelo's rape survivors.

Duration:01:40:55

Mar 17, 2020 | In the News | March 19, 1980 to May 18, 1980

3/17/2020
These articles from my Murder Book explain how the case isn't going anywhere and law enforcement is basically stumped. You might want to listen to the other In the News pod first so you have the coverage from day one. This picks up where that leaves off and I end with some feelings I didn't expect. It's just baffling to me how much they didn't really understand about the crime scene and the evidence. The assumptions, based on what we know today, are mind-blowing.

Duration:00:48:18

Mar 16, 2020 | Now | What Incarceration Might Look Like for DeAngelo

3/16/2020
The DNA has been obtained and now we have a chance to talk about what incarceration might look like for DeAngelo - if he ends up on Death Row or if he does manage to provide a plea that satisfies everyone and is incarcerated for life without parole (LWOP they call it). If he doesn't die from Coronavirus, what might his future hold? Here's a look at what I learned.

Duration:00:42:52

Mar 13, 2020 | Now | Court Date March 12, 2020 - More DNA Swabs and Lawyers

3/13/2020
It was a busy day yesterday. Started with a meeting with the defense. This happened because the defense sent a letter to those of use with charges earlier this year. I met with them in the morning at the Sacramento District Attorney's Office. After that, I grabbed a beverage and headed to court. It was a longer session than we expected, but really interesting. After that, we were whisked off to meet with the Prosecutors - and that went very well. This pod is a bit more extemporaneous than...

Duration:00:50:35

Mar 11, 2020 | Now | Defense Response to Taking Additional DNA Swabs (for Tomorrow's Hearing)

3/11/2020
On March 7th, I went through the prosecution's request for additional DNA. You might want to listen to that first, before you listen to this one. Today, I go through the defense response to the motion and it's long and a little whiny. They make a few valid points. There's one giant argument that's closely related to the Motion to Dismiss (that won't be heard tomorrow). I wonder how the judge will rule - he might end up tabling the whole thing until April 29th, the date of the next hearing....

Duration:00:52:40

Mar 10, 2020 | Then | 1968 Learning to Ride a Bike

3/10/2020
The news is going to get real again as we head into the hearing on Thursday, so I thought today we'd take a little break and go back to 1968 - the year I got a bike and what happened when my dad tried to teach me how to ride it. I love that my parents were super utilitarian and expected us to figure things out so quickly. Considering this foreshadowing for what happens next!

Duration:00:27:51

Mar 8, 2020 | Now | Marsy's Law - California's Victim's Bill of Rights

3/8/2020
With many of us feeling like we aren't getting all the information we need, I take a look at Marsy's Law, California edition, and what this means for anyone who is a victim of crime. Along the way, I also discuss how this law was enacted in California using our Initiative Process (for better or worse) and how these turn into Propositions that are voted on by the citizens. I also briefly discuss Prop 69, that made it legal to collect DNA.

Duration:00:41:47

Mar 7, 2020 | Now | Motion to Collect Five Buccal Swabs of DeAngelo's DNA

3/7/2020
This motion is what will be argued on Thursday. I discovered, in the motion, information I didn't know before. I think you'll find it satisfying. The prosecution does a wonderful job of stating clearly and firmly that this additional DNA is needed and why. I also share some feedback from Gaye based on yesterday's podcast and a little personal information about my love of journalism and journalists.

Duration:00:43:23

Mar 6, 2020 | Now | Not All Victims Are Treated Equally

3/7/2020
It turns out there are different kinds of victims in this messy, ginormous case and depending on the crime or where you live, you'll have a different experience from other victims. This episode explains the different factions and the different kinds of communication we are getting and expresses our desire to be considered as one large group to the extent that is possible. Included are statements from Kris and Gaye, who do a phenomenal job of expressing their frustration from different victim...

Duration:00:36:39

Mar 5, 2020 | Now | DeAngelo Wants to Plea

3/5/2020
I’m back! This is a reboot of my podcast about the Golden State Killer. There's so much stuff happening in public and behind the scenes, this is the best way to keep up! Today I talk about DeAngelo apparently offering a plea (as announced in a footnote on page seven of the Motion to Dismiss) and discovered by Paige St. John of the LA Times. I saw a notification on Reddit that stopped me cold. This episode covers what's happened since Tuesday with regard to the offer, questions the intentions...

Duration:00:33:13

Legacy Podcast | Aug 23, 2018 Court Date

9/12/2018
On August 23, 2018, we attended court to hear 26 more charges be brought against Joseph DeAngelo, the accused Golden State Killer and East Area Rapist. It was intense, sad and different. I also get out a few soap boxes in this one!

Duration:00:40:01

Legacy Podcast | My Visit With a Medium

9/9/2018
This bonus track is podcast only (I didn't write about it on my blog). My friend took me to a Medium and guess who showed up!? Apparently I was on speed when I recorded this - I talk fast so buckle-up!

Duration:00:16:07

Legacy Podcast | In the News on March 17, 1980

7/29/2018
Ripped from the headlines: I read and comment about actual news coverage in Ventura in March 1980, when my dad and stepmom were found and the early days of the investigation. Based on two articles from the Ventura County Star Free Press. Eventually we'd learn they were killed by the Golden State Killer, aka East Area Rapist, but back then, it's amazing how little we really knew about the case.

Duration:00:21:45

Legacy Podcast | Seeing DeAngelo For The First Time

7/29/2018
It was time to see DeAngelo, the man who killed my dad and stepmom, for the first time. Here's what happened.

Duration:00:27:51

Legacy Podcast | Preparing To See DeAngelo For The First Time

7/28/2018
I came to Sacramento for the weekend before I'd see Joseph DeAngelo, the accused Golden State Killer, for the first time. Here's what I did with my time - before the nerves kicked in on Sunday night. I was way more anxious than I thought I would be.

Duration:00:18:54

Legacy Podcast | The Arrest

7/23/2018
I never ever thought my dad and stepmom's killer would be caught. I mean I just didn't. I had decided in my head he was dead. And then, April 2018, an arrest was made! The Golden State Killer, East Area Rapist had been caught. Joseph DeAngelo stands accused. Hot damn. Here's what happened from my perspective.

Duration:00:20:27