Chamomile & Clove

Dearest Clovers, Today is a bittersweet day. In this episode, we're announcing our hiatus from podcasting. Both of us are about to embark upon major life changes and, 120 episodes and five years later, we think it's appropriate to give C&C an intermission. We hope to answer your questions in the episode, but here's a summary: we're planning a possible return if and when there's new material, but, for now, this seems like the best choice. Our episodes will remain on our website and on iTunes and Spotify and wherever you listen. We plan to use whatever support we continue to receive through Patreon to pay those costs, but we completely understand if now is not the time for you to remain a patron. We've been so lucky to have you. It's nearly impossible to put into words what a joy this project has been and how proud we are of all we have accomplished. It's not perfect, but it has always been a delight. Thank you for your kindness, your support, your warmth, your good humor, your deep thinking, and your immense love of the All Souls Trilogy. Should you want to get in touch, you can find us at chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Honor and long life to all, xox Cait and Jen

Happy Sunday Clovers! Well, well, well, here we are with our penultimate discussion of A Discovery of Witches and the All Souls Universe. It's been quite the journey. We have so loved discussing this TV show with you all, and we know that it will continue to provide joy and delight for many years of re-watches to come. In this episode we're back on the trail of the great plot caper! That's right, team spreadsheet has reunited to bring you the ultimate plot discussion for A Discovery of Witches TV. Cait has tied in this plot discussion to the spreadsheets created for Episode 72 of the podcast (that's the one for the book trilogy plot discussion). In addition to diving into plots one more time, we are also discussing our ultimate favorites for the TV series: music, costumes, episodes, characters, scenes, and more. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon.

We are so pleased to be here to begin our discussion of the entirety of the TV series A Discovery of Witches. The moment when we saw the series premiere of the series at All Souls Con in 2018 seems both past and present as we end this television journey. Surely some of you can relate to this feeling. For this episode we are discussing characters and their relationships throughout he series, series-wide themes, and the adaptation and production as a whole. Deepest apologies for the background noise, particularly in Jen's audio. There was a heat wave and it was sweltering in her office so the window had to be open in order to avoid syncope. It has been edited out as much as possible. Download the episode here. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon.

This week, we're bringing you our seventh (!?) plot discussion episode covering Season 3 of A Discovery of Witches TV. We're doing a deep dive on the plot highlights of S3 and whether (or not) they follow a structure we've ever seen before. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. See you next time, xoxo Cait and Jen

Happy Sunday, Clovers! Sorry for the brief delay in getting you this episode -- sometimes the external world plays tricks with our recording and editing schedule. Nonetheless -- we're bringing you our first wrap episode for S3 of A Discovery of Witches TV. In today's episode, we're talking about character arcs -- what makes a good arc, what makes a regressive character arc, and which characters in ADOWTV S3 have the best and most complete character arcs. We're also discussing some themes (redemption! justice? revenge? eternity! connectedness!) and some of our favorite moments of the final season. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. Until next time, xoxo Cait and Jen

Clovers, Somehow, impossibly, we've made it here - to the finale of the adaptation of A Discovery of Witches. It's bittersweet -- we're glad to see the Bishop-Clairmont scion get their happy ending, but it's hard to close the curtain on this wonderful production and its cast and crew. In this episode, we're talking about closure -- where we found it, where we didn't, and how you pin the tail on an antagonist. We're also gearing up for our season (and series) wrap episodes and processing how we feel about having one more dance sequence at Sept-Tours. We're collecting your feedback for our wrap episodes, so make sure you send in your thoughts to chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about Episode 3x07. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. Until next time, xoxo Cait and Jen

Happiest equinox, Clovers! We hope that there are glimmers of spring (or fall) wherever you are and that today finds you safe, well, and full of joy. So, HOLY ADAPTATION, BATMAN. We're delighted to talk today about the smart, courageous, and very satisfying changes the writers' room made for this episode and what that means for the end of our series. As usual, we're also talking about character arcs, Gallowglass's pectorals (we can't help it), and what it means when your protagonist loses the moral high ground. We can't wait to share the finale with you. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about Episode 3x06. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. Blessed be and take care, xoxox Cait and Jen

Happiest Sunday, Clovers. We're nearing the end of our coverage of A Discovery of Witches TV and this episode makes it clear that we're getting ready to tie up the plot and say our goodbyes. There's a lot to love here, but we're also facing the consequences of our limited time with our favorite characters and the adaptive choices we've made along the way. In today's episode, you'll hear our take on gaucho pants (hard pass), Alex Kingston (hell to the yes), and whether spellbinding a blood rage vampire makes any difference (or any sense). We can't wait to share the rest of this amazing season with you. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about Episode 3x05. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon.

Wow. As of yesterday, we've reached the finale of A Discovery of Witches TV -- it's an incredible accomplishment for the cast, the crew, the producers, and the fandom. We're sad that we won't have any more episodes to look forward to, but we're going to prolong the fun for as long as we can. In this episode, we're talking about the adaptive choices we've made that have consequences for how Episode 3x04--and the rest of the series--have to play out. We're mourning the absence of Puddles (episode review: too few daschunds), picking at the threads of how we choose to portray Timothy, and fully enjoying Miriam telling Matthew to get his head out of his behind. We can't wait to share the rest of this amazing season with you. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about Episode 3x04. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. Until next time, xoxox Cait and Jen

Happy Sunday, Clovers. We hope that February is treating you well and that you're delighting in S3 of A Discovery of Witches TV as much as we are. In this episode, we're traveling to New Orleans to reckon with Matthew's past and the remainder of Marcus's family. Meanwhile, Diana and Phoebe are hot on the trail of the Book of Life and Gallowglass and Sarah have conspired to wreck us emotionally. Join us for a conversation about character arcs, condensed plotwork, interiority, and what exactly we might be doing with Satu... We can't wait to share the rest of this amazing season with you. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates and previews of our upcoming episodes or to tell us how you felt about Episode 3x03. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. Until next time, xoxox Cait and Jen

Thank you so much for joining us for this extended episode of our A Discovery of Witches TV season 3 coverage. We love episode 2 of season 3, mostly because of Jack and Father Hubbard. At the beginning of this episode we also take a deep dive into ableism, sanism, and disability in order to tie into our blood rage discussion here in season 3. Enjoy!

The moment we've waited for is finally here! It's premiere day for Season 3 of A Discovery of Witches TV on Sundance Now, Shudder, and AMC+. It's been a long wait, but we think the end result is glorious -- a fitting and beautiful start to our final season. In this episode, we're talking about all of the important things -- modern Gallowglass (rawr), Baldwin v.2 (we dig), and our collective grief about Em (we miss you, Valarie Pettiford). We can't wait to share the rest of this amazing season with you. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates and previews of our upcoming episodes or to tell us how you felt about Episode 3x01. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. xoxo, Cait and Jen

Clovers, Clovers. Somehow, we made it to 2022. It's been a long haul, but we're glad to have you here with us for another year of All Souls fandom. Today, we're spending some time spinning tracks for the one and only Gallowglass -- the wanderer, the guardian, the Scots-inflected, motorcycle-riding, sea shanty-singing, shaggy bear of our hearts. You can find Deb's Gallowglass playlist on Spotify. And you can find ours on Spotify and YouTube. The moment we've all been waiting for is nearly here -- we're LESS THAN A WEEK from the premiere of the final season of A Discovery of Witches TV on AMC and Sundance. We'll be back next week with our coverage of Episode 3x01 and can't wait to hear what you think. In the meantime, you have our best wishes and brightest hopes for 2022. Be well. xoxo Cait and Jen

Happiest Sunday, wherever you are. We apologize for the minor service interruption -- our day jobs got in the way of us putting out an episode last week, but we're trying to make up for it by delivering big on The Book of Life Playlist. There's giggling, ghosts, and Switchfoot, which feels like par for the course. Deb's playlist for The Book of Life can be found on Spotify. Ours can be found on Spotify and on YouTube. Our Gallowglass playlist is on the way and it's a *BANGER*. We can't wait to share it with you! Do you have a song (or songs?) you would add to this playlist? Let us know and we’ll add them! Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates and previews of our upcoming episodes or to submit your suggestions. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. xoxo, Cait and Jen

We're here to toot our own horn *just a little* and say that our combined Matthew Clairmont playlist is most excellent. We've taken the killer beginnings of Deb's original and added some riffs and I don't think you'll be disappointed. There's some big feelings, some melancholy moods, some redemption, some emo -- a glorious range for a complicated man. You can find Deb's original playlist for Matthew on Spotify. Our playlist can be found both on Spotify and YouTube. Up next, we're talking about The Book of Life Playlist and then Gallowglass and Ysabeau and Philippe and and and... you get the picture. Do you have a song (or songs?) you would add to this playlist? Let us know and we’ll add them! Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates and previews of our upcoming episodes or to submit your suggestions. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. xoxo, Cait and Jen

Clovers, As if we haven't discussed Shadow of Night to pieces... we're back! We're talking atmospheric witchiness, soulful ballads, and the oddball genius of Tori Amos. Deb's Shadow of Night playlist is on Spotify. Ours is available on Spotify and YouTube. We're having a grand time talking about these playlists and can't wait to dive into the Matthew Clairmont playlist in a few weeks. Do you have a song (or songs?) you would add to this playlist? Let us know and we’ll add them! Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates and previews of our upcoming episodes or to submit your suggestions. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. Thanks for your support and happy listening! xoxo Cait and Jen

Happy Halloween, darling Clovers! We're so excited to bring you the second installment of our tour of Deb's All Souls playlists. Today, we're exploring the music of the many musical sides of Diana Bishop -- the magical, the righteous, the sexy, and everything in between. We've had so much fun -- we hope you're enjoying it, too. Deb's playlist for Diana Bishop is here. Ours is on Spotify and YouTube. Do you have a song (or songs?) you would add to this playlist? Let us know and we’ll add them! Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates and previews of our upcoming episodes or to submit your suggestions. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. Thanks for your love and support and happy listening! xoxo Cait and Jen

Dearest, most darling Clovers: We're back to our (mostly) regular programming with something new and hopefully fun. We've decided to use the time between TV seasons to play around in the extraordinary playlists that Deb compiled to go along with the All Souls Trilogy. Accordingly, this episode is all about the playlist for A Discovery of Witches, which you can find on Spotify. As promised, we've also created a shorter YouTube playlist to accompany this episode, which you can find at the link. Do you have a song (or songs?) you would add to this playlist? Let us know and we'll add them! Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates and previews of our upcoming episodes or to submit your suggestions. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners' group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you'd like to support the show, we'd love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. Thanks for your love and support and happy listening! xoxo

Clovers. It's been a minute. This was not our plan. As you might have noticed, we've been on a bit of a publishing hiatus -- we were plagued by technical difficulties that caused us to lose not one, not two, but nearly THREE FULLY RECORDED EPISODES. Accordingly, if anyone has seen us in the past few weeks, we've looked a bit like the dog in the fiery room GIF and it hasn't been pretty. This episode, which we recorded with the lovely Dr. Stephenie McGucken of The Art History of All Souls was very nearly lost -- but we managed to rescue it from the flames due to the wonderful backups maintained by the folks at Cast. Due to the nature of the backup, we weren't able to deliver audio as clear and clean as what we normally like to produce... but we'll take it. In this episode, we're talking about our general impressions of S2 -- plus TIME TRAVEL and PLOT DIAGRAMS. You knew this was coming and we couldn't hold out on you any longer. You can download the slides for this episode here. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates and previews of our upcoming episodes. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners' group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you'd like to support the show, we'd love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. xoxox and thanks for your patience, Cait and Jen

Dearest and most darling Clovers, it's a big day. Today, we're releasing Episode 100 of Chamomile & Clove -- a milestone we never dreamed of reaching. It's only fitting that we should published Episode 100 while talking about Episode 2x10 of A Discovery of Witches TV, a fitting end to a tremendous season of television. In today's episode, we're talking about character arcs, endings, beginnings, changes, and bringing this season to a satisfying close before launching into Season 3 in 2022. There's a healthy edition of Spoiler Corner at the end, too, in case you can't get quite enough of speculation (or Cait's newly-minted Spoiler Corner ditties). To celebrate our ONE HUNDREDTH EPISODE, we have new (and much anticipated merch) in our Redbubble store. We're also launching our massive transcript project -- if you'd like to participate, you can e-mail us at chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com and we'll sign you up. We've got some special edition swag to give as a thank you gift for anyone who chooses to pitch in. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates and previews of our upcoming episodes. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners' group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you'd like to support the show, we'd love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. We could not do this without you -- your energy, your love, your questions, your comments, and your companionship are something else. Thank you for everything you've done that brought us here. We are so grateful. xoxo Cait and Jen