Its Not The Length

Whether 2021 was an annus horribilis for you or not, well it’s all behind us now. For this episode, It’s Not Length looks back on some of the very best chats of the year that was, as your hosts Evans and Mondy brought you insights from an array of some of the legendary folk in the sport. Peter The Condor Mel tells us all about becoming the Mav’s GOAT and riding the best wave ever at Mav’s - possibly the best wave anywhere, ever - back in January. Next up photographer/explorer Chris Burkard checks in from the wilds of Yosemite to chat all things travel and adventure surf photography. The line is crackly, but the insight and inspiration is tack sharp. Jon Frank tells the story of filming Litmus back in 1995, and the Irish surf scene back at a time when relatively little was known about the surf riches of the Emerald Isle. Now co-owner of Australia’s legendary Surfing World Magazine, Frank has long been one of the most artistic surf photographers in the game. When Gabriel Medina sat down to mastermind his World Title winning 2021 campaign. He called Fanning. Fanning called Kingy. We called Kingy too, and he told us about working with Gab, life on tour, his own fascinating backstory, but above all gave performance surfing advice for Evans and Mondy. Best Wishes for 2022 from everyone at Wavelength. Subscribe to Wavelength: shop.wavelengthmag.com xx

Evans & Mondy would like to borrow your ears to float some great great surf chat in your general direction. Topics up for discussion in this latest episode of the pod include Wozzle worries, recent mountain forays, while Paul is brave enough to tell Ben the tough truths about his sub-standard written work that only a true pal would. Meanwhile, Ben hints to a slightly worrying mental state that means he’s still caught up in a lingering Azores Pro finals day emotional high, even though the event was actually so long ago, Paul forgot they were even there. Awks. Up for discussion this time out… Drugs: Weed, Hapé (shamanic snuff), Oxy Sports: Snowboarding, surfing, F1, cricket Culture: Jazz (experimental feminist trumpet), The Scorpions, Pete Mel’s Movie Everything & All, Craig Ando in Ceremony, Patrick Raddin Keefe Running time: 53mins www.wavelengthmag.com

Evans & Mondy reunite for It’s Not The Length after Ben’s sickening, treacherous and yet not altogether surprising BBC Olympic betrayal, Paul ultimately making a decision to get back together for the good of the pod fans the world over, as well as surfing in general. Topics up for discussion in Ep 26 include: FOIL WARS: Paul gets into deep and lengthy foil beef with a dangerous, angry kook, yet lives to trim another day with a typical display of resilience, diplomacy and calm under pressure. ITALO… BIT OF A C**T?: What’s happened to the 2019 World Champ? Is having a gold chain minion conducive to being a good human? Find out. TOM MOREY RIP: Mad cap inventor, innovator, free thinker and jazz enthusiast moves on up to drop knee the endless boogie wave in the sky. SKINDOG AKA THE BRIT GOAT: Cornish long lord Ben Skinner cements his pozzie as the greatest Rosbif competitive surfer of all time with a final at Malibu to new 45 year old World Champ Joel Tudor. And much much more Running time: 41m40s www.wavelengthmag.com Vol 261 Out Now!

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It's Not The Length Olympic special brings you the big stories from the build up to the games. Surfing debuts at Tokyo 2020(1) in a few weeks time, and we've recorded a special pod episode dedicated to all the things we love about the five ringed circus. Find out: How Leon Glatzer blazed and epic qualification trail in El Salvador to represent ze Germans in Tokyo, and his homes and dreams for the games... assuming his efforts to stay on the right side of WADA pee pee collectors goes ok. Away from surf, we take in Paul & Ben's favourite Olympic memories. From your Eric the Eels to your Michael Johnsons and your Cram, Coe & Ovetts and much, much between. There's even a run through of Paul's very fave Olympic anthems: rousing anthems from the likes of Katy Perry, Freddie Mercury & Montserrat Caballé and of course Whitney Houston... but who takes gold? Also: What formats could liven up the surf event? Should it be a teams competition? Who going? Who isn't and should be? Who is, but shouldn't be? Did Team GB kook it by not throwing wads of cash at Yolanda Hopkins Sequeira to surf for them? There's even an Olympic mascot themed quiz, where Ben tests Paul's deep olympic memorabilia knowledge. Plus: Igarashi streaking? Gilmore urine sample shame*?!? Enjoy! Running time 57m50s *Purely in the interests of comedy. Stephanie Gilmore has never been implicated in any steroid use**, this is a fictional account for entertainment purposes, not a factual report. ** (Yet) www.wavelengthmag.com

Gabriel Medina's new coach and friend of the show Andy King joins the pod down the line from the land Down Under to tell some of his own his incredible life story, offer insights into the Gabby hook-up and the pair's current working relationship. He even offers Evans and Mondy some (brutal) insights into their own surfing shortcomings. Elsewhere, the Aussie leg, Mondy's home patch of Newy, new webcast meat, the Surfing Super League and other scintillating topics are under the spotlight. Given Mondy's recent joining of the global elite 1% by expanding his investment portfolio into the exciting, delicious new CBD drink Good Rays, Paul - who continues to nobly fight for environmental and social justice - reflects on being the only person left in the surf biz over 40 who doesn't co-own a drinks brand. Running time: 1hr10mins Get the new premium print issue of Wavelength Magazine Vol. 260 https://shop.wavelengthmag.com/collections/subscription-offers Wavelength Drive In Cinema 2021: 16/07 - 05/09 Tickets: https://wavelengthmag.com/drive-in-2021/line-up?utm_source=mainsite&utm_medium=editorial&utm_campaign=ticketlaunch

The latest ep of INTL brings you the greatest surf shooter in the biz, Chris Burkard. Chris joined the show down the line from Yosemite, to chat all things surf, photography and adventure. With a brand new Burkard Studio x Billabong Adventure Division Collection just launched, we celebrate the release of the purpose-built range by catching up on some of Chris' greatest adventures from the high latitude surf frontier. Elsewhere, topics up for discussion include: Naughty Pauline Menczer & the Girls Don't Surf documentary The Wozzle on Quarantine in Australia Surf comp names... could do better 60-year-olds riding the tube Haz Bryant & Bigger boned surfers (& cricketers) Paul's Cory Lopez block Mondy's toxic surf media patriarchy mea culpa Plus, the return of quiz segment 'What C__t Said That?' We also hear from WL Editor Luke Gartside in Newquay, Cornwall, bringing some exciting live WL event announcements for 2021, as well as the forthcoming print edition of WL, Volume 260. www.wavelengthmag.com/subscriptions Running time: 70mins @wavelengthsurfmag editor@wavelengthmag.com

This bonus ep of the pod features Jon Frank down the line from the Balearics talking us through the iconic 1996 surf film 'Litmus'. Teaming up with the creative force that is Andrew Kidman, Litmus was the mid 90's surf film that went against the grain of conventional surf flicks of the time, unveiling Hawaiian style surf in Ireland and helping launch a global rethink of surfing equipment with Derek Hynd's quiver section at J-Bay. https://wavelengthmag.com/litmus-ireland-unveiled-the-birth-of-ride-everything/ Subscribe to Wavelength https://shop.wavelengthmag.com/collections/subscription-offers Running time: 27mins

Peter 'the Condor' Mel aka The Mav's Goat sure started off 2021 with a bang... Condor joins the pod to recount his ridiculous backdooring of the Mav's bowl on 8th Jan 2021, and impart wisdoms gleaned from a lifetime going full tilt in Half Moon Bay. At 51 years young and still pushing the boundaries of big wave surfing, Pete gives us some background on the La Niña winter in NorCal, which like him, is showing little sign of letting up. There's much more to Jah's rich shred tapestry than icy cold death teepees of course; we chat to lithe log lord Harry Roach in tropical Queensland, Australia about his style influences, notably the very fine noseriding of Mr Dane Peterson. Meanwhile, find out how and why co-host Mondy, famed for his frugality, spent £750 on a 3 second Cornish tuberide. That's three quarters of a bag of sand on a Kernow tunnel visj... but was it worth it? He says yes. Elsewhere, enjoy the usual thrust and parry of surfing's hot topics being dissected and debated by two middle aged men who were in their primes before the Internet or podcasts were even invented, struggling desperately to maintain relevance in what is essentially, a youth sport. - Going the wrong way at surf spots. - Mondy's long JoB submission. - Moana Wong / Tati West beef & women at the Pipeline. - Accidental lineup shots: Yes please. - Vintage tube stances in the magic 3-4ft range (come back Tudor, all is forgiven): Mike Ho's cheater 5 steez, Jim Banks' peace sign, Occy's hands behind the back, Bugs' iconic pointing etc. - Mondy takes on the FB anti-vaxxer conspiracy theory mafia faction of the Aussie surf media - Leo vs Mikey's not-so-sudden death surf off As the show comes to its thrilling climax, ITNL's exclusive quiz segment 'What C__t Said That?' returns as Mondy poses 10 quotes from surf luminaries and Paul attempts to guess from whose lips they emitted. Paul's choice of song to play out the show if he wins: Tom Zé - Jimmy Renda Se Ben's choice: Grace Jones - William's Blood Subscribe to Wavelength Magazine www.wavelengthmag.com Shop the finest surfgear & accessories: www.shop.wavelengthmag.com Running time: 1h 11min Is 2021 merely 2020 in a trench coat (with its pubes on fire)? No! It's fine it's fine it's all gonna be just fine. X.

Like the welcome relief felt when that obnoxious drunk of a mate has finally passed/been punched out(or roofied, if that's what it takes), 2020 's fun n' games are finally all but over. We've put together some highlights from a year of podcasts that include an assortment of voices, from Evans and Mondy's regular rip snorting contributions to colourful insights from the likes of G-Mac, Sean Pertwee, Chas Smith, Andy Martin and Nick Hayes. Big thanks for tuning in and continuing to support the pod, wishing you the very best of health and happiness for the new year and beyond. "Enjoy yourselves, it's later than you think" - Evans "Get a dog up yas" - Mondy X Subscribe to Wavelength: www.wavelengthmag.com/subscriptions Running Time: 55min 50s Running order: 00:40s Live from Nazaré 06:20s Mondy on heartbreak 10:00 Andy Martin on Bradshaw & Foo and Lord Ted Deerhurst 18:10s Lockdiggity vibes and new localism 22:30s Nick Hayes on Right to Roam & the Natural Health Service 29:30s Chas Smith's General Knowledge (from BeachGrit vs WL) 35:50s Sean Pertwee on becoming a surfer for Blue Juice 38:50s Are You Smarter Than A Smooth-Talking Matt Barr steward? 43:00s Geoff Lawton, Rasta & the Top 3 descriptions of surfing ever 49:10s 'Joel Tudor leaves me cold' 51:05s G-Mac on the best day ever at Nazaré www.wavelengthmag.com

With one of the biggest, cleanest and most beautiful swells ever ridden in Europe hitting 29/10/20, we catch up with Garrett G-MAC McNamara to get his insights into how big it really was, who ruled it... and his thoughts on the alleged fisticuffs that went down between battling tow crews in giant surf. Plus: - Paul & Ben wrap up on the WSL's Euro Cup of Surfing: Mondy's Italo Ferreira soggy bum kick and Paul's Kikas t-shirt shame - Discuss the curious appeal of Surf Ranch loggers as tubby fibbers - Wonder if anybody, ever has spent 30 mins in a Boardriders store? - Reveal what an adolescent Mondy did over 10 times per day, everyday, much to the dismay of his poor mum - And play a brand new quote-based quiz: What C*nt Said That? Running time: 50m10s Get in touch: Tweet @wavelengthmag FB/IG @wavelengthsurfmag editor@wavelengthmag.com Wavelength Volume 259 out now! Subscribe to the magazine https://shop.wavelengthmag.com/collections/subscription-offers

The Natural Navigator Tristan Gooley joins the show to talk about reading nature's clues and signs. Sunday Times best-selling author and the only person to have both sailed and flown across the Atlantic solo, Tristan specialises in taking queues from the natural world in order to make a mind map of our surroundings. An excerpt from his brilliant book 'How To Read Water', (How to see the Pacific in a Pond) features in the forthcoming Wavelength print issue 259 (out 31/10/20) Subscribe here: https://shop.wavelengthmag.com/collections/subscription-offers). Head to https://www.naturalnavigator.com/ and use code WAVE10 to get 10% off Tristan's Beginner's Guide To Natural Navigation online course. Running time 42m40s Topics: Natural navigation - what is it? Lockdown & getting outdoors Solving natural puzzles Does water have character & personality? Surfing & reading weather Wind shifts & fronts Seeing natural phenomena before they happen www.wavelengthmag.com Get in touch: Twitter @wavelengthmag editor@wavelengthmag.com IG/FB @wavelengthsurfmag

Wavelength Magazine's It's Not The Length Podcast, your favourite surf culture and social commentary on demand audio entertainment returns with the full potency and authority of a crisp autumnal groundswell. Hosts Evans and Mondy mull over surf news, reflect upon their own ever evolving roles as major assets to the global wave-riding community, and bring you insights that other podcasts simply cannot muster. A brand new quiz feature, WSL vs WSL sees Mondy test his knowledge of the Wozzle and the Women's Super League, while Social Media Police return in full riot gear to make key arrests in the nick of time. Topics up for discussion include: - WSL Countdown Series Euro Cup of Surfing - Mondy's Internet Purple Patch - Is Joel Tudor shit? - Facemask beach letter and imbeciles in giant vehicles - Geoff Lawton, Dave Rastovich and the 3rd best description of surfing ever - Something about Mick Fanning (classic Mondy) and so much more. Running time: 66 mins www.wavelengthmag.com Proudly supported by www.fourfivecbd.co.uk @wavelengthmag editor@wavelengthmag.com

Paul Evans & Ben Mondy are back to mull over surf news and air their own surf views in the midst of smoking hot mid summer madness. Paul finds himself billeted on a (windy) campsite in Capbreton SW France living the dream, while Ben joins from his WSL propaganda lair in an undisclosed location in SE England. Running time: 42m15s 2m00s: Intro & summer debrief 12m50s: No That's Good Australia E Coast Swell / Quik Pro France relegated to QS / WL Drive In Cinema / Wozzle Speciality Events 23m12s: oh That's Bad RIP Derek Ho / Bobby Martinez on BG pod 29m10s: Ad break 30m40s: Niccolo Porcella 33m50s: Are You Smarter Than A Smooth Talkin' Matt Barr Steward? Tickets for Drive In Cinema: https://wavelengthmag.com/drive-in-cinema Subscribe to Wavelength: https://shop.wavelengthmag.com/collections/subscription-offers Get in touch with the show: Tweet @wavelengthmag email editor@wavelengthmag.com

With Wavelength Drive In Cinema showcasing the classic Brit surf feature Blue Juice 24-26th July 2020 on the clifftops of Watergate Bay, Paul Evans catches up with Sean Pertwee and director Carl Prechezer to reflect on the making of the movie. Sean, back in London after six years in NYC shooting Gotham, reveals how the film was the best project he's ever been involved in and the bonds he still has with the Cornish surf community in St Agnes that welcomed him and the crew 25 years ago. The 1995 film, Film4's first ever theatrical release, received a warm reception from the critics and provided a Brit counterpoint to Point Break (also showing at Wavelength's Drive In Cinema summer!)with a warm characterisation of the times, where Cool Britannia meets the Cornish surf scene in an entertaining rollick through British shred sensibilities at a time when king skins and Gary Abletts were as much a part of the scene as a banana rockered Fluid Juice (no relation) 6’3” x 17 3/4” with Nose Guard. Get your tickets here: https://shop.wavelengthmag.com/collections/drive-in-cinema Running time: 41m43s Get in touch: editor@wavelengthmag.com Twitter @wavelengthmag IG / FB @wavelengthsurfmag

Paul Evans chats with Andy Higgins, former Rip Curl International Events Director about the competition many believe to be the greatest tour event ever held, the 2006 Rip Curl Search WCT 'Somewhere in Mexico'. Andy Irons won the event in perfect grinding righthand sand point surf at a venue only referred to in the media as 'La Jolla'. As for the surf, Slater gushed, “This place is better than the Gold Coast and better than Jeffrey's”. Higgo travelled to Mexico on a scouting mission in 2005, surfed the place for a week and was happy to report back at Rip Curl HQ that the venue was, in fact, very much good enough for the Championship Tour. Following the event, word inevitably got out as to the exact location, now known as Barra de la Cruz. Get the inside scoop on how the project came together, what the event was like to experience on the ground at the time, and the legacy of the Search CT events. Running time: 43min 20s Get in touch with the show Twitter: @wavelengthmag Email; editor@wavelengthmag.com www.wavelengthmag.com

As if your regular gentleman broadcaster hosts, Evans P and Mondy B weren't enough to deliver the finest in surf themed on demand audio entertainment, this time INTL invites Beach Grit's Derek Rielly & Chas Smith on the show to compete in a battle of wits. The Greatest Surf Quiz In The World Ever sees Team Evans & Rielly take on Team Smith & Mondy in two rounds of probing quizzing: 1. Specialist Subjects // 2. General Surf Knowledge Running order: 2m 10s Intro with Chas Smith Rd 1 Specialist Subjects: 4m 55s Chas on Surfing & Smoke 9m 55s Derek on Filipe Toledo's Big Wave Career 13m 30s Evans on 'Welcome To Paradise Now Go To Hell' by Chas Smith 20m 55s Derek reads from 'The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter' by Carson McCullers 23m 40s Ben on the 2019 WSL Qualifying Series Rd 2 General Knowledge: 30m 30s Chas 38m30s Derek 42m30s Ben 52m20s Paul 57m outro Get in touch: Twitter @wavelengthmag IG/FB @wavelengthsurfmag editor@wavelengthmag.com www.wavelengthmag.com www.FourFiveCBD.co.uk

Have recent events made you double down on your appreciation of our coastlines and the waves that break on them? More specifically your right to access them? In this episode, Paul Evans chats to land justice campaigners Guy Shrubsole and Nick Hayes of LandJustice.uk about Right to Roam, and their books Who owns England? (Guy) and The Book of Trespass - Crossing the Lines That Divide England (Nick). While surfers and other coast users generally benefit from access to the intertidal zone in most of Britain, what about rights to free camping, wild swimming and broader access to the Natural Health System - the great outdoors - most of which tends to be walled off and inaccessible in England and Wales (Scotland introduced R2R in 2003.) With government plans afoot to change trespass from civil law to a criminal offence, Nick and Guy want you to get involved to protect rights to access our open spaces. Running Time: 49m20s Topics: Lockdown vibes Guy & Nick's relationships with wave riding Surfers as a subculture Paganism The current status quo & SW Coast Path The 11th Duke of Beaufort Scotland vs England The Natural Health Service MoD land Enclosure & abolition Free camping, nomads & New Age Travellers Romani 'gypsies' & Henri VIII Criminalising trespass Guy's book 'Who owns England?' The National Trust Nick's book 'The Book of Trespass' How to get involved Cover Illustration by Nick Hayes Get involved: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300139 Extra special thanks to: @nickhayesillustration @guyshrubsole www.wavelengthmag.com @wavelengthmag

Evans & Mondy reconvene to consider all things lockdown, shred & life. Following recent announcements, could this be the end of the World Surf League as we know it? R-Cal doesn't seem to think so, your hosts aren't so sure. Mondy's efforts as part time freelance zero hours subcontractor co-scriptwriter on the WSL Surf Breaks has landed him 1/12th of a Webby Award nomination, with the famously hard to please judging panel claiming some of the technical quality of the writing reminded them of Marcel Proust's 'In The Shadow of Young Girls In Flower'. Impressive stuff. Elsewhere, hot topics include Zoom pub quizzes, Laird's sagging rig, and female longboarders' hang tens resembling 'the girly tuck'. Also, why does the Portuguese government hate the Malloys? How did joint 2020 CT wildcard L Fioravanti's juxtapose bad posture with female objectification? What app did Mondy use to order edibles on dark web? Running time: 49mins Running order: 1m30s: Intro 2m30s: Breaking News 19m20s: Good 26m10s: Bad 43:20s: Mondy's UK place name game In association with www.FourFiveCBD.co.uk Get in touch: Tweet @wavelengthmag IG / FB @wavelengthsurfmag Email: editor@wavelengthmag.com www.wavelengthmag.com x

Paul Evans chats with Andy Martin, author of SURF, SWEAT & TEARS: The Epic Life & Mysterious Death of Edward George William Omar Deerhurst. Andy Martin may well be one of the cleverest people in surfing (podcast hosts included). A Cambridge University lecturer whose body of written work includes numerous books as well as surfing columns for The Times and The Independent, his latest book investigates the murky circumstances surrounding the 1996 death of his friend Viscount Ted Deerhurst, Britain's first ever professional surfer. Having been warned to stay away from a Waikiki stripper he'd fallen in love with known only as Lola, Deerhurst was found dead a short time later, while Andy was still on the North Shore. While the surf world has generally attributed a variety of causes of death, from drowning at Sunset to a heart attack in a hotel bathtub, Andy suspected foul play and returned to Hawaii to investigate. Paul caught up with Andy at his home in Cambridge over Zoom to find out more about the book, as well as Andy's surfing life. Running time: 26mins https://wavelengthmag.com/new-book-claims-britains-first-pro-surfer-lord-ted-was-murdered-in-hawaii/ Order Surf, Sweat & Tears: https://www.orbooks.com/catalog/surf-sweat-and-tears/ Stay tuned for It's Not The Length Ep 16, dropping soon. www.wavelengthmag.com @wavelengthsurfmag