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Interviews from Bret Fisher's live show with co-host Nirmal Mehta. Topics cover container and cloud topics like Docker, Kubernetes, Swarm, Cloud Native development, DevOps, SRE, GitOps, DevSecOps, platform engineering, and the full software lifecycle. Full show notes and more info available at https://podcast.bretfisher.com

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Interviews from Bret Fisher's live show with co-host Nirmal Mehta. Topics cover container and cloud topics like Docker, Kubernetes, Swarm, Cloud Native development, DevOps, SRE, GitOps, DevSecOps, platform engineering, and the full software lifecycle. Full show notes and more info available at https://podcast.bretfisher.com

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@BretFisher

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English


Episodes
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Your Images are Out of Date (probably) - The Silent Rebuilds problem

3/4/2026
Container base images (like Official Docker Hub images) are often updated without new tag versions. I call this Silent Rebuilds. There's no way to know this happens without image digest-checking automation like Dependabot and Renovate with specific settings. Failure to keep up-to-date is a prime source of vulnerabilities that can lead to serious security breaches. Automate the updates! Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/z_ahbsSc4Fo 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 ★Show Links★ Course waitlist: GitHub Actions Prohttps://www.bretfisher.com/blog/silent-rebuildshttps://github.com/BretFisher/silent-rebuildshttps://www.bretfisher.com/chainguard-event Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBret FisherBeth FisherNirmal Mehta You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:38:19

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AI Wins and Misses for 2025

2/16/2026
I'm joined by Nirmal Mehta of AWS and Viktor Farcic from Upbound, to go through our 2025 year in review. We look into the AI tools that consumed us this year, from CLI agents to terminal emulators, IDEs, AI browsers - what worked, what flopped, what's worth your time and money, and what we think isn't! Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/mnagfUsh5bc 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBret FisherBeth FisherNirmal MehtaViktor Farcic You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:01:16:34

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Find Your K8s Happy Path with RawKode Academy

1/23/2026
I talk with David Flanagan, aka Rawkode, about his new opinionated Tech Matrix that helps you navigate the overwhelming CNCF landscape. https://rawkode.academy/technology/matrix 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 ★Show Links★ RawKode Academy websiteDavid's DiscordDavid's LinkedInCheck out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/1LigTOlFiYk Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBret FisherBeth FisherDavid Flanagan You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:52:50

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Move K8s Stateful Pods Between Nodes

10/9/2025
Bret is joined by Philip Andrews and Dan Muret of Cast AI to discuss pod live migration between nodes in a Kubernetes cluster. 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation in 2025. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 Cast AI dynamically moves your pod to a different node without downtime or data lost. It copies your running pod data, memory, IP address, and TCP connections from one node to another in real time. In this episode, we nerd out over how Cast AI works under the hood, use cases for it, including hardware and OS maintenance on a node. I've got a feeling Cast AI has a winning feature on their hands. ★Show Links★ Cast AI website Cast AI YouTube Channel Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/yINNWxRywv4 Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBret FisherBeth FisherDan MuretPhilip Andrews You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:46:20

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Swarm 2030. Let's Go!

8/20/2025
Bret discusses exciting news about Swarm being maintained until 2030. 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation in 2025. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://courses.bretfisher.com/waitlist 🍾 In this episode, I give an update on the future of Docker Swarm, the renewed long-term support and ongoing development from Mirantis. The news should be reassuring for you, Swarm users. Swarm remains a viable, supported option for your container orchestration needs, at least until 2030.★Show Links★ Swarm news: Mirantis maintaining until 2030 Awesome Swarm Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/tmQbrCrM-yM Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBret FisherBeth Fisher You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:25:25

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Is Docker Building the Best AI Stack?

8/12/2025
Bret and Nirmal are joined by Michael Irwin to discuss Docker's comprehensive AI toolkit, covering everything from local model deployment to cloud-based container orchestration across multiple interconnected tools and services. 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation in 2025. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://courses.bretfisher.com/waitlist 🍾 We run through almost the entire Docker AI ecosystem, including the Model Runner for hosting open-source models locally or remotely, the Hub model catalog, Gordon AI chatbot integration within Docker Desktop and CLI, how MCP toolkit and catalog enable seamless tool integration with local AI systems, Docker's open-source MCP gateway for managing these connections, plus Docker's new Offload service for running containers and models entirely in Docker Cloud and much, much more!★Show Links★ Docker Model Runner Gordon AI Blog Post Docker Offload Docker Gen AI Catalog Docker MCP Catalog and Toolkit Docker MCP Gateway Repository Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/dUmSsnc33O0 Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBret FisherBeth FisherNirmal MehtaMichael Irwin 🇺🇦 🕊 You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:01:07:05

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Could AI End Human QA?

7/29/2025
Bret is joined by Andrew Tunall, the President and Chief Product Officer at Embrace, to discuss his prediction that we’ll all start shipping non-QA'd code (buggier code in production) and QA will need to be replaced with better observability. 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation in 2025. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://courses.bretfisher.com/waitlist 🍾 If AI causes us to ship more code, we’ll need more testing and QA. It’s unlikely that orgs will want to add staff just so they can use AI, so what’s the solution? Would we start relying more on production observability to detect code issues that affect user experience? Embrace is a mobile observability platform company that I first met at KubeCon London this year. Their pitch was that mobile apps were ready for the full observability stack and that we now have SDKs to let mobile dev teams integrate with the same tools that we platform engineers and DevOps people and operators have been building and enjoying for years now. I wanted to hear from observability experts on how they think this is all going to shake out. ★Show Links★ Embrace website Embrace GitHub repository Embrace docs Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/HHpn3OqMrbU Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBret FisherBeth FisherAndrew Tunall You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:54:19

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AI Agents Running Containers

7/1/2025
The Daytona founders - Ivan Burazin and Vedran Jukic - discuss their pivot to an AI agent cloud. We dig into the new infrastructure requirements of developing agents that need their own sandboxes to operate in. A year ago, we had them on to talk about Daytona giving us remote development environments for humans, and they have now pivoted the company to focusing on providing cloud hosting environments for AI agents to operate. I suspect this is something we're all gonna eventually need to tackle as we work to automate more of our software engineering. So we spend time breaking down the concepts and the real world needs of humans developing agents, and then the needs of AI that require places to run their own tools in code. Check out the video podcast version here https://youtu.be/l8LBqDUwtV8 Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBret FisherBeth FisherIvan BurazinVedran Jukic You can also support my content by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:55:14

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Heroku + MCP = The Fastest Way to Run AI Agents in the Cloud

6/6/2025
Julián Duque from Heroku joins me to explain and demo their new AI platform. Check out the video podcast version here https://youtu.be/BGqlLZHdRDs Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBret FisherBeth FisherJulián Duque You can also support my content by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:41:23

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Is AI ready for DevOps?

6/4/2025
Launching our new Podcast: https://agenticdevops.fm Bret and Nirmal are at KubeCon London and record their ideas about how AI Agents will change DevOps, platform engineering, SRE, automation, troubleshooting, and more. Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBret FisherBeth FisherNirmal Mehta You can also support my content by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:27:10

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What you missed at KubeCon

5/24/2025
At KubeCon EU 2025 in London, Nirmal and I discussed the important (and not-so-important) things you might have missed. There's also a video version of this show on YouTube. Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBeth FisherBret FisherNirmal Mehta

Duration:00:39:21

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Docker Model Runner

4/21/2025
Docker launched "Docker Model Runner" to run LLMs through llama.cpp with a single "docker model" command. In this episode Bret details examples and some actual useful use cases for using this way to run LLMs. He breaks down the internals. How it works, when you should use it or not use it; and, how to get started using Open WebUI for a private ChatGPT-like experience. ★Topics★ Model Runner Docs Hub Models OCI Artifacts Open WebUI My Open WebUI Compose file Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBeth FisherBret Fisher You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:19:16

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What's Coming in 2025?

3/26/2025
This episode is about what I'm seeing and what I'm doing right now, and then for the rest of the year. There are three parts. First, I talk about what's about to happen for me for the next few weeks re going to London for KubeCon. Then what I'm planning to change in this podcast, as well as my other content on YouTube for the rest of the year. And lastly, I talk about some industry trends that I'm seeing that will force me, I think, to change the format of this show. I recorded the episode on March 22, 2025. ★Topics★ Highlights I'm excited about related to KubeCon What's next for my Podcast and YouTube What's up with AI? Creators & Guests Beth FisherBret Fisher You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:16:42

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Docker Build the best way with Docker Bake

3/23/2025
The Docker Bake Build tool just went general availability, and I'm excited about what this means for creating reproducible builds and automation that can run anywhere CI locally. I love it. Really, and in this video I'm gonna break down some of the features, the benefits and walk through some examples. In this episode I explain why docker buildx bake exists, what it can do, and I walk through multiple examples of Bake files and how it's better than docker build image and docker compose build. I also touch on BuildKit and Docker's GitHub Actions. There's also a video version of this show on YouTube. ★Get started with Docker Bake★ Walkthough https://docs.docker.com/guides/bake/ Docs: https://docs.docker.com/build/bake/ GA Announcement: https://www.docker.com/blog/ga-launch-docker-bake/ Creators & Guests Beth FisherBret Fisher

Duration:00:15:05

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Is Swarm at EOL?

2/6/2025
I've been a big fan of Swarm since it was launched over a decade ago and I've made multiple courses on it that still sell. But, we recently got some news out of Mirantis that might be bad news. So I talked about it last week on my live stream. There's also a video version of this show on YouTube. ★Topics★ Blog post that sparked this discussion: https://www.portainer.io/blog/portainer-the-essential-tool-for-docker-swarm-users-facing-a-kubernetes-future Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBeth FisherBret Fisher

Duration:00:18:03

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Best of Cloud Native 2024

1/10/2025
Bret and Nirmal reunite for their traditional annual Holiday Special episode of breaking down the most significant developments in cloud native from 2024 and sharing predictions for 2025. 💥 This episode is brought to you by our valued sponsor and friends at Aikido!💥 Aikido is a no-nonse platform that helps developers get security done. It consolidates multiple scanning tools like code analysis, dependency analysis, and cloud security into a single platform. Aikido’s superpower is its ability to remove false positives, so you can focus on the real issues. Aikido not only helps you find true vulnerabilities but their new AI features auto triage and even fix issues for you. Aikido is FREE for small teams or anyone wanting to simply explore so check it out today at aikido.dev We touch on infrastructure evolution, exploring Kubernetes fleet management challenges and emerging solutions for simplified tool stacks, we cover essential cloud native trends of 2024, infrastructure automation breakthroughs, notable technical innovations, projects that aspire to be part of CNCF as well as predictions for cloud native in 2025.There's also a video version of this show on YouTube. ★Topics★ Cloud Native End User Technical Advisory Board (TAB) Adam Jacob's Talk: Reimagining OSS Licensing and Commercialization with Fair Source kubevirt [kubevirt.io](https://kubevirt.io) Keda ( https://keda.sh/ ) Cloud Native Reference Architectures (https://architecture.cncf.io/) Karpenter ( Karpenter.sh ) eBPF ( [ebpf.io](https://ebpf.io) ) ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb_vD3XZYOA ebpf documentary ) ( Ebpf summit https://ebpf.io/summit-2024/ ) GitHub Copilot, now Free https://github.blog/news-insights/product-news/github-copilot-in-vscode-free/ Kubernetes transitioning into enterprise maturity (https://www.cncf.io/blog/2024/09/04/kubernetes-turns-10-a-ditty-dedicated-to-a-decade-of-container-orchestration/ ) https://www.fairwinds.com/blog/10-years-kubernetes-innovation FinOps matters (https://www.cncf.io/blog/2024/10/31/opencost-advances-to-the-cncf-incubator/ ) Read the tea leaves https://github.com/cncf/sandbox/issues Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBeth FisherBret FisherNirmal Mehta You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:01:11:42

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Aikido: Is a Single DevSecOps Tool Possible?

12/27/2024
Bret is joined by Willem Delbare and Roeland Delrue to discuss Aikido, a security tool consolidation platform designed specifically for smaller teams and solo DevOps practitioners. The discussion explores how Aikido addresses the growing challenges of software supply chain security by bringing together various security tools - from CVE scanning to cloud API analysis - under a single, manageable portal. Unlike enterprise-focused solutions, Aikido targets the needs of smaller teams and individual DevOps engineers who often juggle multiple responsibilities. During the episode, they demonstrate Aikido's capabilities using Bret's sample GitHub organization, and show how teams can implement comprehensive security measures without managing multiple separate tools. Be sure to check out the live recording of the complete show from December 5, 2024 on YouTube (Stream 281). ★Topics★ Aikido website Aikido on Bluesky Aikido on LinkedIn Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBeth FisherBret FisherWillem DelbareRoeland Delrue You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:01:01:56

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AI Cert Prep with the KodeKloud Team

12/13/2024
Bret is joined by Mumshad Mannambeth and Vijin Palazhi of KodeKloud for Q&A on what we should be studying and certifying for in 2025. 💥 This episode is brought to you by our valued sponsor and friends at Aikido!💥 Aikido is a no-nonse platform that helps developers get security done. It consolidates multiple scanning tools like code analysis, dependency analysis, and cloud security into a single platform. Aikido’s superpower is its ability to remove false positives, so you can focus on the real issues. Aikido not only helps you find true vulnerabilities but their new AI features auto triage and even fix issues for you. Aikido is FREE for small teams or anyone wanting to simply explore so check it out today at aikido.dev This episode is chalked full of information. We talked about the CNCA Kubestronaut program and how GenAI has changed the cert prep game, and see what tools and techniques we should use to prepare for next year!You've probably seen Mumshad's courses. He has been another person like myself who, for almost a decade, has been making container courses on Docker, Kubernetes, all the tooling. Now he's running a giant platform of learning and they're introducing AI into your learning and certification prep, courses, and skills labs. And we go through all of it. We talk about all of the Linux Foundation certifications they cover. They've launched over 100 courses now on their platform and they cover a lot, if not all of the Linux certifications, especially around Kubernetes and the Cloud Native ecosystem. I'm a huge fan of that. I think this is great stuff for everyone, especially if you're early in your career and you're using certifications as a way to prove your expertise or you're like me, you've been around forever and you want to show that you're up to date. Be sure to check out the live recording of the complete show from November 21, 2024 on YouTube (Stream 280). ★Topics★ KodeKloud website Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBeth FisherBret FisherMumshad MannambethVijin Palazhi You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:01:17:56

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KubeCon Engineering Takeaways

11/29/2024
Bret and Nirmal recorded this special offline episode at KubeCon North America in Salt Lake City. We hung out at the AWS booth to break down the major trends and developments from the conference. The event drew a record-breaking 10,000 attendees, with roughly half being first-timers to the Cloud Native ecosystem. Starting with Cloud Native Rejekts and moving through the pre-conference events, we noticed Platform Engineering emerged as the dominant theme, with its dedicated conference track drawing standing-room-only crowds. The main conference showcased a notable surge in new vendors, particularly in AI and security sectors, representing about a quarter of all exhibitors. We dissect the key engineering trends, ongoing challenges in Cloud Native adoption, and insights gathered from various conferences including ArgoCon, BackstageCon, and Wasm Day. In our 40-minute discussion, we tried to capture the essence of what made this year's KubeCon significant. It's a great listen whether you couldn't attend or if you're a veteran of the CloudNative community. Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBeth FisherBret FisherNirmal Mehta You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:37:15

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Personal AI with Ken Collins

11/15/2024
Bret and Nirmal Mehta are joined by Ken Collins to dig into using AI for more than coding, and if we can build an AI assistant that knows us. They touch on a lot of tools and platforms. "We're bit all over the place on this one, from talking about AI features in our favorite note taking apps like Notion, to my journey of making an open AI assistant with all of my Q&A from my courses, thousands of questions and answers, to coding agents and more." Ken is a local friend in Virginia Beach and was on the show last year talking about AWS Lambda, and we've both been trying to find value in all of these AI tools for our day to day work. Be sure to check out the live recording of the complete show from October 24, 2024 on YouTube (Stream 279). ★Topics★ The Lifestyle Copilot Blog Post Serverless AI Inference with Gemma 2 Blog Post Creators & Guests Cristi CotovanBeth FisherBret FisherKen CollinsNirmal Mehta You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com

Duration:00:57:58