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Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking. Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants. Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.

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Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking. Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants. Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.

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256. Justin Pugh's Playbook: From the NFL to CRE Success & Mentorship

5/7/2024
In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by NFL offensive lineman for the New York Giants and savvy real estate investor, Justin Pugh. Justin talks us through his journey in the NFL and offers insights into the reality of professional football. He also dives deep into his transition into the real estate space with a touchdown on his passion for mentoring those with future aspirations to succeed in the industry. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Journey to the NFL (1:20) - Why real estate? (4:27) - Juggling plays and textbooks (7:48) - Financial reality of being in the NFL (12:00) - Mentoring in the real estate space (13:48) - Building a brand through social media (16:58) - Trial by fire in real estate development (20:21) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:25:17

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255. Fed Holds Rate, Fast Food Earnings, Mixed-Use Overview, Delinquency Rundown

5/3/2024
In this week's episode, we break down if anything will really change for the commercial real estate markets following the Fed’s rate decision. We also dive into retail earnings, and specifically discuss some of the latest news for fast food chains. We share our latest CMBS delinquency rates and discuss what a negative headline means in the very dynamic world of CRE. Then, we run through stories for mixed-use, office, retail, industrial, and multifamily. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Fed meeting, economic update - impact on CRE (0:23) - Retail earnings: fast food (9:40) - CMBS delinquency rates (15:55) - Office stories (19:00) - Mixed-use overview (25:01) - Multifamily stories (36:35) - Retail headlines (40:12) - Industrial (42:58) - Lodging (45:27) - Shoutouts (46:10) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:52:40

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254. Data Vault Unlocked: Modifications, Maturities, Mortgages; Property Types by the Numbers

4/25/2024
This week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast was recorded early, so the team used this time to provide our listeners with a breakdown of the topics the market has been focused on lately: maturities, modifications, CRE risk pricing, cap rates, and more. In our usual fashion, we also dive into the CRE property types, but today, we share delinquency, DSCR, debt yield, and other important data points to note for each sector. Episode Notes: - Extend and pretend? Background and history (2:13) - Is there a silver lining for office properties that can extend? (6:48) - How have changing rates related to property values? + Cap Rates (9:28) - Risk pricing within CRE, Gordon Growth Framework (13:44) - Size of the CRE Universe (25:25) - Deep Dive into the Data- Office, Multifamily, Retail, Lodging (28:10) - San Antonio market (42:35) - Debt yield and underwriting standards (47:39) - Multifamily debt yield (49:24) - Freddie Mac multifamily (51:28) - Shoutouts (1:01:06) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:01:02:25

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253. Powell's Reverse Pivot, Strong Mall Issuance, Property Transactions, & Appraisal Reductions

4/18/2024
Between the retail sales report, comments from Fed Chair Powell, and tensions in the Middle East, there’s been a lot to digest recently. In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down Powell's pivot and in CRE, dig into a large multifamily transfer to special servicing, new regional mall CMBS issuance, and share stories on property transactions and appraisal reductions. Tune in now. This episode is sponsored by Marketplace: https://rimarketplace.com/esahotels#utm_source=credirect&utm_medium=preroll_paid&utm_campaign=hospitality Episode Notes: - Economic update: Fed comments (0:23) - Bank earnings (9:46) - $1.5B multifamily loan transferred to special servicing (15:58) - Multifamily sales (24:31) - Office (27:21) - Retail new issuance (38:15) - Sales transactions (47:31) - Shoutouts (50:23) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:57:28

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252. From 6 to 3, to Higher for Longer, to Later & Less; $2.00/sf Office Sale?; CRE Market Review

4/12/2024
This week, we got another inflation reading that – leading up to it – had market participants in a "what if" mode, wondering what would happen if the number came in higher, lower, or in-line with expectations. In this week's episode, we break down this changing narrative, we also talk about Blackstone's $10 billion multifamily acquisition, and what appeared to be a $2.00/square foot office sale in St. Louis... We also dig into green shoots and crabgrass for retail, lodging, and industrial. Tune in now. This episode is sponsored by Marketplace: https://rimarketplace.com/esahotels#utm_source=credirect&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=hospitality Episode Notes: - Economic update: CPI report (0:23) - Blackstone's $10B multifamily purchase (11:27) - Multifamily loans in special servicing (18:35) - $2.00 office sale? (23:30) - Office stories (29:55) - CRE across the gateway cities (33:49) - Retail news (36:22) - Industrial (41:13) - Lodging news (42:29) - Shoutouts (46:21) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:52:05

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251. Navigating the Evolving Mall Space with Oscar Parra of Pacific Retail Capital Partners

4/7/2024
In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, Oscar Parra, CFO of Pacific Retail Capital Partners, joins the team to share a deep dive into the shopping mall asset class. Oscar reveals how to identify opportunities and navigate challenges within the evolving mall space. Oscar breaks down some recent transactions and shares the details of a $2.5 billion mall redevelopment. Tune in now. Episode Notes: Background (0:58) Position in the enclosed mall space (4:16) Identifying opportunities and navigating challenges (6:35) Mixed-use malls? (12:25) Breaking down mall acquisitions (19:26) Managing municipalities (27:14) Breaking down a mall sale (35:46) $2.5 billion mall redevelopment (39:36) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:45:50

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250. Stocks Slide, Distressed Chicago Multifamily Comps, Strong Industrial Transactions

4/4/2024
In this episode, we delve into the market downturn that kicked off Q2—is it a mere correction or indicative of deeper underlying issues? In CRE, we share our latest CMBS delinquency rates and loan loss figures, then dive into distressed Chicago multifamily comps, and notable industrial property sales. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Economic update: stocks slide, market correction? (0:23) - CMBS delinquency rates (5:03) - Multifamily comps (11:54) - Office stories (20:45) - Office crabgrass (27:36) - Industrial transactions (35:55) - Hotel sale (40:29) - Shoutouts (42:34) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:53:09

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249. Are CRE Distress & Optimism Mutually Exclusive? Green Shoots, Crabgrass, & Bank Loan Data

3/28/2024
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we ask the question: 'Is distress in commercial real estate a result of lagging indicators or is market optimism winning the narrative battle?' after breaking down positive economic signals but cautioning that CRE might not be out of the woods yet. We also share green shoots and crabgrass across the asset classes and provide a sneak peek into our bank CRE loan performance data. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Economic and market update (0:23) - Illiquidity of CRE, lags in real estate (5:15) - Bank CRE loan data (9:21) - Retail crabgrass (11:49) - Multifamily crabgrass(19:48) - Office crabgrass (25:22) - Green shoots for office loans and properties (30:14) - Industrial transactions (33:19) - Lodging (36:50) - Shoutouts (38:06) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:46:38

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248. 2024 Rate Cuts? Details in the Dot Plot; Joann Bankruptcy; CRE Appraisal Reductions

3/22/2024
After the Fed meeting this week and signs that there will be interest rate cuts in 2024, we ask ourselves if the 'devil is in the Fed Dot Plot'. In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we also analyze housing starts, Joann fabric's bankruptcy filing, stories of value reductions for malls, San Francisco's latest sublease space, and several multifamily, lodging, and industrial stories. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Economic update: Fed meeting (0:23) - Housing starts (8:31) - FDIC disposition of SVB loans (12:00) - Retail transactions (15:01) - Joann fabric bankruptcy (16:03) - Retail CRE news (19:55) - Office stories (32:07) - Multifamily transactions (37:38) - Lodging news (40:41) - Industrial (43:59) - Shoutouts (48:08) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:51:31

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247. Warm Inflation, Cool Retail Sales, & Family Dollar Stores Being Put on Ice

3/14/2024
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down the economic headlines along with the news of Family Dollar closing 1,000 stores. We also dig into retail and multifamily transactions, crab grass + a potential mixed-green for office, and more in lodging and industrial. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Economic update (0:23) - Dollar Tree closures/ Family Dollar news (2:22) - Cash-in mall refi (10:32) - Retail transactions (15:01) - Office news (16:44) - Multifamily sales and financing (30:43) - Lodging news (36:31) - Industrial (44:22) - Shoutouts (47:58) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:57:34

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246. Market Moves: Powell's Testimony, S&P 500's Continued Climb, Apartment Sales, & Loan Losses

3/5/2024
This week, we've had no lack of news including ADP, JOLTS, NYCB’s $1 billion-plus capital injection, and Fed Chair Powell’s semi-annual congressional testimony. In this episode, we break down what it all means for CRE, dive into CMBS loan losses, and share stories on apartment sales, office crabgrass, and retail green shoots. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Economic update (0:23) - CMBS loan losses (8:10) - Not all class b/c offices are created equal (11:59) - Office crabgrass (16:20) - Property valuations (21:25) - Multifamily sales (28:03) - Retail green shoots (35:40) - Shoutouts (41:11) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:49:04

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245. Leaping Through Data – Macy’s, Malls, Delinquency Report, & Discounted Payoffs

3/1/2024
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down PCE data, Macy's store closure news and the exposure in CRE, and Trepp's latest figures for CMBS delinquencies. Across property types, we review stories about loans heading to special servicing, property valuation reductions, and discounted payoffs. We also share a review of REIT earnings. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Economic update (0:23) - Macy's store closures (4:50) - CMBS delinquency report (9:35) - REIT earnings (13:38) - Office crabgrass (19:04) - Multifamily sales (28:27) - Retail news (30:56) - Lodging (37:44) - Industrial and self-storage (44:32) - Shoutouts (46:27) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:54:08

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244. Office Valuations, Malls Not out of the Woods?, AI Question Marks for CRE

2/21/2024
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down office valuation stories and the idea that despite positive retailer earnings reports, malls may not be out of the woods yet. We also cover several multifamily transaction headlines, and news for the retail, lodging, and industrial sectors. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Economic update: Fed minutes, jobless claims, AI (0:23) - New office transaction in Seattle (4:11) - Atlanta office story (8:45) - Chicago office value decline (13:24) - Sublease story (15:17) - Malls not out of the woods? (18:26) - Retail property sales (23:59) - Multifamily transactions (26:25) - Lodging (30:26) - Industrial sale (32:45) - Shoutouts (33:53) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

Duration:00:38:14

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243. Extend &… Pretend, Profit or Peril? Office Environment; Lodging Maturities; Property News

2/15/2024
While the market was watching CPI numbers, jobless claims, and retail sales this week, the Trepp team was digging into the ‘extend and pretend’ narrative and signs of distress hiding in the lodging sector. In this episode, we dig into the data behind these themes, give a deep dive into the current office environment, and also share stories across the commercial property types. Tune in. Episode Notes: - Economic update: CPI, retail sales (0:23) - Extend and pretend narrative (4:55) - Hidden lodging distress? Maturities (15:39) - Hotel sale (21:13) - Multifamily stories (26:12) - Retail news (29:31) - Industrial sale (35:01) - Office restructure and loan modification (36:11) - Shoutouts (43:53) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC

Duration:00:51:46

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242. CRE & Bank Turmoil Strikes Mainstream Media Chord; Surveys, Sales, & Shout outs

2/8/2024
This week, anyone outside of CRE may have thought markets were improving. But one quick search reveals that mainstream media is now all over what we’ve been talking about for many months. In this episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down the headlines, while also sharing industrial transaction stories and news for office, retail, multifamily and hotel properties. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Economic update (0:23) - CMBS loan losses (7:01) - Industrial sales (10:41) - Office (16:46) - Retail news (28:33) - Multifamily stories (33:07) - Shoutouts (41:36) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC

Duration:00:48:40

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241. Commercial REality Check: What Fed Pivot? & More with Danielle DiMartino Booth and Dan McNamara

2/1/2024
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by two market experts, Danielle DiMartino Booth, CEO & Chief Strategist at Quill Intelligence, and Dan McNamara, Founder & CIO of Polpo Capital. After a week full of headlines, we discuss the 'cold water' that seems to have been thrown on the recent resilience and soft-landing narrative. Join us as we talk layoffs and what the jobs numbers really mean, CMBS issuance, increasing recession fears, maturity walls, and faltering CRE fundamentals. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Breaking down the week's news (0:47) - Inflation numbers and hotels; layoffs and jobs (7:02) - Office impairment 2.0 (10:07) - CMBS rally? (18:40) - Corporate debt maturities (23:00) - Hotel maturities (29:56) - Quantitative tightening and liquidity risks (33:35) - Where to put capital to work? (36:54) - Dallas office vacancies (37:53) - "Silver lining" for 2024 (44:53) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC

Duration:00:49:42

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240. Immaculate Disinflation?; Retail & Hotel Sales; Office Operating Expenses

1/25/2024
In this episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we review the latest economic data points and whether what we're seeing is contributing to the "immaculate disinflation" narrative. In CRE, we break down multifamily stories, transactions across the country for retail and hotel properties, and share office stories that touch CMBS. We also dig in to our office operating expense report. Tune in. Episode Notes: - Economic update (0:23) - Retail sales (8:51) - Multifamily stories (15:24) - Office property expenses (24:00) - Office headlines (27:55) - Lodging transactions (41:48) - Shoutouts (47:06) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC

Duration:00:53:55

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239. Mixed-Bag Update: Strong Retail Sales, Turbulent Bank Earnings, Loans in Special Servicing

1/17/2024
This week, we saw positive retail sales numbers and jobless claims at the lowest level in over a year, but we also saw bank earnings decline. In this episode, we dive into the mixed-bag of macroeconomic news and data, and what it means for CRE. We share multifamily transactions across the country, news about office loans heading to special servicing, and a few updates on retail. Tune in. Episode Notes: - Economic update (0:23) - Bank earnings (11:58) - Multifamily transactions (15:12) - Office valuations, moves to special servicing (21:34) - Retail news (37:16) - Shoutouts (40:04) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC

Duration:00:46:30

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238. CRE Temperature Check at CREFC Miami: Resilience in a Wary Market

1/11/2024
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we reflect on the CREFC Miami 2024 conference, and the parallels in terms of bullishness on the dovish Fed pivot. While there is a generally positive overtone as we head into 2024, there are underlying concerns that have yet to be addressed. We also dive into multifamily sales, office news, and a few stories for the retail and lodging segments. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Economic update (0:23) - CREFC conference sentiment (2:48) - Multifamily sales and news (10:26) - Office stories (21:35) - Hotel discount sale (31:27) - Retail headlines (35:32) - Shoutouts (38:15) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC

Duration:00:43:12

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237. Structural Changes in CRE Debt Markets, Ares' Bryan Donohoe Helps Us Sort it Out

1/9/2024
In a special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by Bryan Donohoe, Partner and Co-head of Ares US Real Estate. Bryan breaks down the world of debt markets, lending, and originations. We break down past market disruptions, CRE fundamentals, and the structural changes in the CRE debt markets. *This episode was recorded prior to the December 2023 Fed meeting. Episode Notes: - Background (1:00) - Where are the debt markets today? (6:32) - Is there optimism for CRE? (10:36) - Geographies and property types positioned for success (12:01) - Appetite for office? (16:06) - Market outlook (20:15) - What does Ares do best? (30:49) - The onset of a new credit cycle (31:30) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC

Duration:00:33:10