Democracy Paradox

You actually have to fight in every generation, if you want to preserve liberalism. It's not just going to preserve itself. It's not just the end of history. It isn't just the final resting place of humanity - not by any stretch of the imagination. It's a continual struggle. Robert Kagan Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Proudly sponsored by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Learn more at https://carnegieendowment.org A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Robert Kagan is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a columnist for The Washington Post. He is the author of many books including most recently The Ghost at the Feast: America and the Collapse of World Order, 1900-1941 and Rebellion: How Antiliberalism Is Tearing America Apart--Again. Key Highlights Key Links Rebellion: How Antiliberalism Is Tearing America Apart--Again by Robert Kagan The Ghost at the Feast: America and the Collapse of World Order, 1900-1941 by Robert Kagan Follow Robert Kagan at the Brookings Institution Democracy Paradox Podcast Robert Kagan Looks to American History to Explain Foreign Policy Today Heather Cox Richardson on History, Conservatism, and the Awakening of American Democracy More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

People in Congress are leaders in their communities and people in some parts of this country are, in my opinion, being led astray. Rep. Mikie Sherrill This episode was made in partnership with the Andrea Mitchell Center for the Study of Democracy Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Proudly sponsored by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Learn more at https://carnegieendowment.org A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Representative Mikie Sherrill represents the 11th Congressional District of New Jersey. She sits on the Committee on Armed Services, Subcommittee on Readiness, Subcommittee on Tactical Air and Land Forces, and the Select Committee on Strategic Competition between the United States and the Chinese Communist Party. She holds a Bachelor’s degree from the United States Naval Academy, a Master’s degree in Global History from the London School of Economics and Political Science, and a Law degree from Georgetown University. She is a military veteran with almost ten years of active duty service. Key Highlights Key Links Learn more about Rep. Mikie Sherrill on her Congressional page Follow Rep. Mikie Sherrill on X @RepSherrill or @MikieSherrill Rep. Mikie Sherrill's Campaign Page Democracy Paradox Podcast Grading Biden’s Foreign Policy with Alexander Ward Can America Fight Back Against the Authoritarian Economic Statecraft of China? Bethany Allen Believes We Can More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

What does it mean to empower women politically in a context in which the dominant party is engaged in democratic backsliding or other forms of illiberal and exclusionary politics? Would you still want more women to be part of that party? Saskia Brechenmacher Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Made in partnership with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Learn more at https://carnegieendowment.org A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Saskia Brechenmacher is a fellow in Carnegie’s Democracy, Conflict, and Governance Program. Recently, she coauthored a new book with Katherine Mann called Aiding Empowerment: Democracy Promotion and Gender Equality in Politics. Key Highlights Key Links Aiding Empowerment: Democracy Promotion and Gender Equality in Politics by Saskia Brechenmacher and Katherine Mann Learn more about Saskia Brechenmacher at the Carnegie Endowment Follow Saskia Brechenmacher on X @SaskiaBrech Democracy Paradox Podcast Marc Plattner Has Quite a Bit to Say About Democracy Larry Diamond on Supporting Democracy in the World and at Home More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

We have to reconstruct the foundations of our democracy, building on the past, not repudiating everything we're building on it. Bruce Ackerman Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Sponsored by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Learn more at https://carnegieendowment.org A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Bruce Ackerman is the Sterling Professor of Law and Political Science at Yale. He is well known as a legal scholar and a political philosopher. His most recent book is The Postmodern Predicament: Existential Challenges of the Twenty-First Century. Key Highlights Key Links The Postmodern Predicament: Existential Challenges of the Twenty-First Century by Bruce Ackerman Learn more about Bruce Ackerman on Wikipedia Follow Bruce Ackerman on X @backermanyale Democracy Paradox Podcast Yascha Mounk Warns Against a Misguided New Ideology Zizi Papacharissi Dreams of What Comes After Democracy More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

We thought we were strengthening the militaries in the Cold War. In fact, the political effects of those strengthened militaries ended up leading to a longer-term deterioration and instability. Adam Casey Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Sponsored by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Learn more at https://carnegieendowment.org A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Adam E. Casey is an analyst in the United States government. He wrote Up in Arms: How Military Aid Stabilizes―and Destabilizes―Foreign Autocrats while he was a research fellow at the Weiser Center for Emerging Democracies at the University of Michigan. All the content in the book and this interview reflects the views of the author and does not reflect the position of any US government agency or department, nor does it assert or imply US government authentication of information or endorsement of the author's views. Key Highlights Key Links Up in Arms: How Military Aid Stabilizes―and Destabilizes―Foreign Autocrats by Adam Casey "The Origins of Military Supremacy in Dictatorships," by Dan Slater Lucan A. Way Jean Lachapelle and Adam E. Casey in Journal of Democracy. Follow Adam Casey on X @adam_e_casey Democracy Paradox Podcast After a Coup, Can the Constitutional Order Be Repaired? Adem Abebe on Rebuilding Constitutions in West Africa Naunihal Singh on the Myth of the Coup Contagion More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

We have to care more about truth than tribe. We have to care more about each other than about profit. Barbara McQuade This episode was made in partnership with the Andrea Mitchell Center for the Study of Democracy Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Sponsored by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Learn more at https://carnegieendowment.org A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Barbara McQuade is a professor from practice at the University of Michigan Law School. She is also a legal analyst for NBC News and MSNBC, and a co-host of the podcast #SistersInLaw. Her new book Attack from Within: How Disinformation is Sabotaging America. Key Highlights Key Links Attack from Within: How Disinformation Is Sabotaging America by Barbara McQuade Learn more about Barbara McQuade Follow Barbara McQuade on X @BarbMcQuade Democracy Paradox Podcast Peter Pomerantsev on Winning an Information War Samuel Woolley on Bots, Artificial Intelligence, and Digital Propaganda More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

Whoever you vote for, Biden or Trump at this point, you are voting for a radically different vision of American foreign policy. Alexander Ward Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Sponsored by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Learn more at https://carnegieendowment.org A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Alexander Ward is a national security reporter at Politico and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He is also the author of the book The Internationalists: The Fight to Restore American Foreign Policy after Trump. Key Highlights Key Links The Internationalists: The Fight to Restore American Foreign Policy after Trump by Alexander Ward Learn more about Alexander Ward Follow Alexander Ward on X @alexbward Democracy Paradox Podcast Can America Fight Back Against the Authoritarian Economic Statecraft of China? Bethany Allen Believes We Can Larry Diamond on Supporting Democracy in the World and at Home More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

All this stuff about half of America just won't listen to this. You're just not trying. You're just not trying. I fear in America people don't try to reach people in echo chambers. Peter Pomerantsev Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Sponsored by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Learn more at https://carnegieendowment.org A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Peter Pomerantsev is a Senior Fellow at Johns Hopkins University where he co-directs the Arena Initiative. His past books include Nothing is True and Everything is Possible and This is Not Propaganda. His most recent book is called How to Win an Information War: The Propagandist Who Outwitted Hitler. Key Highlights Key Links How to Win an Information War: The Propagandist Who Outwitted Hitler by Peter Pomerantsev This Is Not Propaganda: Adventures in the War Against Reality by Peter Pomerantsev Follow Peter Pomerantsev on X @peterpomeranzev Democracy Paradox Podcast Samuel Woolley on Bots, Artificial Intelligence, and Digital Propaganda Allie Funk of Freedom House Assesses Global Internet Freedom More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

Without an elected government, without a government that truly represents... a lot of things are imperiled - rights, democracy, freedom, certainly peace. I think that's another kind of challenge as we go into this year of widespread elections. It's not just about preserving democracy. It's also laying the foundation for peace. Yana Gorokhovskaia Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Sponsored by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Learn more at https://carnegieendowment.org A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Yana Gorokhovskaia is the Research Director at Freedom House and one of the lead authors of this year’s Freedom in the World report titled, The Mounting Damage of Flawed Elections and Armed Conflict. Key Highlights Key Links Freedom in the World 2024: The Mounting Damage of Flawed Elections and Armed Conflict Freedom on the Net 2023: The Repressive Power of Artificial Intelligence Follow Freedom House on X @freedomhouse Democracy Paradox Podcast Staffan Lindberg with a Report on Democracy in the World Sarah Repucci from Freedom House with an Update on Freedom in the World More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

As a writer I had the space to try to humanize him without sanitizing him. That was my mission: to try to see the world from behind his eyes in order to explain his otherwise inexplicable behavior. Steve Coll Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Read Justin Kempf's essay "The Revolution Will Be Podcasted." A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Steve Coll is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who has served as President and CEO of New America and the Dean of the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism. He is currently a staff writer at The New Yorker. His most recent book is The Achilles’ Trap: Saddam Hussein, the CIA, and the Origins of America’s Invasion of Iraq. Key Highlights Key Links The Achilles’ Trap: Saddam Hussein, the CIA, and the Origins of America’s Invasion of Iraq by Steve Coll “How Iraq was Lost” by Robert Kaplan in The New Statesman (Book Review of The Achilles' Trap) Read more from Steve Coll at The New Yorker Democracy Paradox Podcast Robert Kaplan on the Politics of the Past and Future of the Greater Middle East Steven Simon on American Foreign Policy in the Middle East including Iran and the Wars in Iraq More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

Written into the DNA of American immigration policy, which we tend to regard as a kind of domestic policy - and which in many ways it is - has to do with US foreign policy. Jonathan Blitzer This episode was made in partnership with the Andrea Mitchell Center for the Study of Democracy. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Read Justin Kempf's essay "The Revolution Will Be Podcasted." A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Jonathan Blitzer is a staff writer at The New Yorker. He won a 2017 National Award for Education Reporting for “American Studies,” a story about an underground school for undocumented immigrants. His writing and reporting have also appeared in the New York Times, The Atlantic, The Atavist, Oxford American, and The Nation. He is an Emerson Fellow at New America. His most recent book is Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here: The United States, Central America, and the Making of a Crisis. Key Highlights Key Links Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here: The United States, Central America, and the Making of a Crisis by Jonathan Blitzer “Do I Have to Come Here Injured or Dead?” by Jonathan Blitzer in The New Yorker Follow Jonathan Blitzer on X @JonathanBlitzer Democracy Paradox Podcast Rachel Schwartz on How Guatemala Rose Up Against Democratic Backsliding Joseph Wright and Abel Escribà-Folch on Migration’s Potential to Topple Dictatorships More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

I think a powerful surveillance apparatus will continue to be a major obstacle to the development of democratic forces, but it will not be the decisive factor. Minxin Pei Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Read Justin Kempf's essay "The Revolution Will Be Podcasted." A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Minxin Pei is the Tom and Margot Pritzker ’72 Professor of Government and George R. Roberts Fellow at Claremont McKenna College. His most recent book is The Sentinel State: Surveillance and the Survival of Dictatorship in China. Key Highlights Key Links The Sentinel State: Surveillance and the Survival of Dictatorship in China by Minxin Pei "Why China Can’t Export Its Model of Surveillance" by Minxin Pei in Foreign Affairs "Totalitarianism’s Long Shadow" by Minxin Pei in Journal of Democracy Democracy Paradox Podcast Josh Chin on China’s Surveillance State Deng Xiaoping is Not Who You Think He is. Joseph Torigian on Leadership Transitions in China and the Soviet Union More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

As democracy promoters, we also need to pay a lot of attention to the material needs of people... When these material needs are not satisfied, people will be more willing to give nondemocratic forms a chance. Adem Abebe This episode was made in partnership with the Constitution Building Programme at International IDEA Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Read Justin Kempf's essay "The Revolution Will Be Podcasted." A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Adem Abebe is a senior advisor on constitution-building processes at International IDEA. He supports transitions from conflict and authoritarianism to peace and democracy, generates cutting edge knowledge, convenes platforms for dialogue and advocates for change. Adem is also Vice President of the African Network of Constitutional Lawyers, which promotes democratic constitutionalism across the continent. Key Highlights Key Links Follow Adem Abebe on X @AdamAbebe Learn more about International IDEA Learn about the Constitution-Building Programme at International IDEA at Constitutionnet.org Democracy Paradox Podcast Can Poland Repair its Constitutional Democracy? Tomás Daly Believes it Can Marcela Rios Tobar on the Failed Constitutional Process in Chile More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

Poland will be showing us the endless ingenuity of constitutional thinkers who are genuinely committed to democracy in its many forms. Tomás Daly This episode was made in partnership with the Constitution Building Programme at International IDEA Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Read Justin Kempf's essay "The Revolution Will Be Podcasted." A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Tomás Daly is a Professor at Melbourne Law School and Director of the Democratic Decay & Renewal (DEM-DEC) platform at www.democratic-decay.org. His new project on ‘constitutional repair’ addresses a pressing question: how can a democracy be repaired after being deeply degraded, but not ended, during a period of anti-democratic government? Key Highlights Key Links Constitutional Repair: A Comparative Theory by Tomás Daly Follow Tomás Daly on X @democracytalk Learn more about International IDEA Learn about the Constitution-Building Programme at International IDEA at Constitutionnet.org Democracy Paradox Podcast Kurt Weyland on the Resilience of Democracy How Can Democracy Survive in an Age of Discontent? Rachel Navarre and Matthew Rhodes-Purdy on Populism and Political Extremism More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

I think his heart is in the right place. I've talked to him about these things. He's very sensitive to the judgment of history. He knows that. Ukraine has been fighting since long before he became president to be an independent sovereign democracy with freedom of speech. Simon Shuster Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Read Justin Kempf's essay "The Revolution Will Be Podcasted." Simon Shuster is a staff writer for Time magazine who covers politics in Ukraine and Russia. His new book is called The Showman: Inside the Invasion That Shook the World and Made a Leader of Volodymyr Zelensky. Key Highlights Key Links The Showman: Inside the Invasion that Shook the World and Made a Leader of Volodymyr Zelensky by Simon Shuster "Where Zelensky Comes From" by Simon Shuster in Time Follow Simon Shuster on X @shustry Democracy Paradox Podcast Serhii Plokhy on the Russo-Ukrainian War Olga Onuch and Henry Hale Describe the Zelensky Effect More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

When politics has to solve the problems that it has caused, how can politics do that? Marcela Rios Tobar This episode was made in partnership with the Constitution Building Programme at International IDEA Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Marcela Rios Tobar is the Director for Latin America and the Caribbean at International IDEA. From March 2022 until January 2023 she served as the Minister of Justice and Human Rights in Chile under Gabriel Boric. Key Highlights Key Links Learn more about International IDEA Learn about the Constitution-Building Programme at International IDEA at Constitutionnet.org Read more about Chile's constitutional journey Democracy Paradox Podcast Jennifer Piscopo on the Constitutional Chaos in Chile Aldo Madariaga on Neoliberalism, Democratic Deficits, and Chile More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

Populist leaders want polarization. They start polarization. They confront. Kurt Weyland Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Access Episodes Ad-Free on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Kurt Weyland is the Mike Hogg Professor in Liberal Arts. He has written many books. His most recent is Democracy's Resilience to Populism's Threat: Countering Global Alarmism. He has also authored the article "Why Democracy Survives Populism" in the Journal of Democracy. Key Highlights Key Links "Why Democracy Survives Populism" by Kurt Weyland in Journal of Democracy Democracy's Resilience to Populism's Threat: Countering Global Alarmism by Kurt Weyland Assault on Democracy: Communism, Fascism, and Authoritarianism During the Interwar Years by Kurt Weyland Democracy Paradox Podcast Kurt Weyland Distinguishes Between Fascism and Authoritarianism Jason Brownlee Believes We Underestimate Democratic Resilience More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

That's the point here. It's not there yet. But if electorally the BJP keeps winning, this is a prospect that must be faced. Ashutosh Varshney Proudly sponsored by the Kellogg Institute for International Studies. Learn more at https://kellogg.nd.edu Listen ad-free for just a $5/month on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Ashutosh Varshney is the Sol Goldman Professor of International Studies and the Social Sciences at Brown University. He is the author of many books and papers on India and its politics. His most recent article (coauthored with Connor Staggs), published in Journal of Democracy, is "Hindu Nationalism and the New Jim Crow." Key Highlights Key Links "Hindu Nationalism and the New Jim Crow" by Ashutosh Varshney and Connor Staggs in Journal of Democracy "India’s Democracy at 70: Growth, Inequality, and Nationalism" by Ashutosh Varshney in Journal of Democracy Follow Ashutosh Varshney on X @ProfVarshney Democracy Paradox Podcast Ashutosh Varshney on India. Democracy in Hard Places Is India Still a Democracy? Rahul Verma Emphatically Says Yes More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Support the Show.

What we really need to do is recommit to the idea that this is difficult, it is valuable, and in order to keep this valuable, difficult thing going, we need to basically pay the cost of educating ourselves, educating the next generation, the background knowledge and skills that citizens need if they are to continue to govern themselves... Josiah Ober Support the podcast on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Josiah Ober is a Professor of Classics and Political Science at Stanford University and a Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution. He is the coauthor, along with Brook Manville, of The Civic Bargain: How Democracy Survives. Key Highlights Key Links The Civic Bargain: How Democracy Survives by Brook Manville and Josiah Ober Demopolis: Democracy before Liberalism in Theory and Practice by Josiah Ober Lean more about Josiah Ober Democracy Paradox Podcast How Can Democracy Survive in an Age of Discontent? Rachel Navarre and Matthew Rhodes-Purdy on Populism and Political Extremism Marc Plattner Has Quite a Bit to Say About Democracy More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Learn more about the Kellogg Institute for International Studies at https://kellogg.nd.edu/ Support the Show.

If these Islamist organizations want to stay in these contexts and keep playing the democratic game, they need to commit to the democratic game in the longer run. Sebnem Gumuscu Support the podcast on Patreon Make a one-time Donation to Democracy Paradox. A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com. Sebnem Gumuscu is an associate professor of political science at Middlebury College and the author of Democracy or Authoritarianism: Islamist Governments in Turkey, Egypt, and Tunisia. Key Highlights Key Links Democracy or Authoritarianism: Islamist Governments in Turkey, Egypt, and Tunisia by Sebnem Gumuscu "How Erdoğan’s Populism Won Again'" by Sebnem Gumuscu and Berk Esen Follow Sebnem Gumuscu on X @sebnemisback Democracy Paradox Podcast Berk Esen and Sebnem Gumuscu on the Disappointing Elections in Turkey… or How Democratic (or Autocratic) is Turkey Really? Shadi Hamid on Democracy, Liberalism, and the Middle East More Episodes from the Podcast More Information Apes of the State created all Music Email the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.com Follow on Twitter @DemParadox, Facebook, Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast 100 Books on Democracy Learn more about the Kellogg Institute for International Studies at https://kellogg.nd.edu/ Support the Show.