Hearts in Taiwan

In our Season 2 finale, Angela and Annie relive the best Taiwanese meal they ate this year, and discuss books that connect us with different parts of our Taiwanese, Chinese, and American heritage. We share our Spotify Wrapped and play a listener voicemail. Credits: “PUNCHLINE” and “LITTLE FIRES” from BUNNY MODE courtesy of the artist Jaguar Jonze (@jaguarjonze on IG) Resources: Good to Eat restaurant (read Gathering Taiwanese American community at Emeryville’s “Good to Eat”) First Generation: Recipes from My Taiwanese-American Home by Frankie Gaw The Poppy War by R. F. Kuang We Were Dreamers: An Immigrant Superhero Origin Story by Simu Liu The Many Daughters of Afong Moy by Jamie Ford Blueprints by Jeanelle Fu S02E09 Can you be Chinese and Taiwanese at the same time? S01E12 Twinkies and Bananas S02E03 Bringing Taiwanese values to entrepreneurship S01E14 Hearts (and ears) in Japan S01E05 Wang or Wang? Appearances: Hyphen Magazine A Roundtable On Taiwan's Recent Representation In Western Media EYECTV on YouTube How ROC immigrants recognize themselves? Ryan Ma on TaiwaneseAmerican.org Cōng yóu Bǐng: A Catalyst for Taiwanese Self-Identity YLE Radio (Finnish) Russia, Ukraine, China, and Taiwan Featuring: Olivia Chen, Twrl Milk Tea Angie Lin, Good to Eat Grace Hwang Lynch, freelance writer Leona Chen, TaiwaneseAmerican.org Peter Chu, TAP-SF Kimberly Yang, Formosa Chocolates Willy Wang, Taiwan Bento Stephanie Lin, KRON 4 Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

In this episode, we get to know Joy Huang, one of the founders and moderators for the Taiwanese Home Cooking Facebook group. She started her food blog, The Cooking of Joy, because she was inspired to document her mom's Taiwanese dishes. This hobby continued to grow and now you can find her work on Instagram at @joyosity where she is known for her artistic take on baked goods. We asked Joy to share her early influences, tips for food photography, and some of the most lively topics discussed in the Facebook group of over 35,000 people who love to make Taiwanese food. Featuring Joy Huang: www.cookingofjoy.com@joyosity#thecookingofjoyTaiwanese Home CookingResources mentioned: Some Good News by John KrasinskiBon AppetitFood52Taiwanese Restaurant Recommendations around the worldmaking breadoriginallatestdumplingsTaiwanese American Foundation (TAF)Boston Organicshomemade pineapple cakes@jjcookerywhite pepper in Taiwanese foodfive-spice tooCover art photo credits: Joy Huang Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

Angela’s mom shares a memory from her college days and Angela learns more about her mom as a person through this story. Let us know if you do a similar exercise recording the stories your parents tell you behind their old photos! Resources: Google PhotoScan app instagram.com/cutfruitcollective instagram.com/parentsarehuman instagram.com/asiansformentalhealth Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

In this episode, we examine the dark side of the model minority myth and the “tiger mom” stereotype. Joanna Ho’s first young adult novel, The Silence that Binds Us, is inspired by a real community’s anti-Asian reaction to teen suicides. Discussing the novel also compels Annie and Angela to get real about passive and active anti-Blackness in the Asian American community. Featuring Joanna Ho: Buy The Silence that Binds UsInstagramTwitterFacebookTikTokjoannahowrites.comAbout Joanna: Joanna Ho is the New York Times bestselling and award-winning author of Eyes that Kiss in the Corners, Eyes that Speak to the Stars, Playing at the Border: A Story of Yo-Yo Ma, and The Silence that Binds Us. She is a writer and educator with a passion for anti-bias, anti-racism and equity work. She has been an English teacher, a vice principal, a dean, the designer of an alternative-to-prison program, and a professional development creator partnering with educational leaders around the country. She survives on homemade chocolate chip cookies, outdoor adventures, and dance parties with her kids. More resources (primarily for US listeners): Suicide Prevention Lifeline NetworkThe Trevor Projecttherapist directorysurvivors of suicide lossWikipediaPsychology TodayWikipediaHearts in Taiwan in the news: Radio Taiwan International, Russian ServiceNew York Times articleConnect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

About 32% of people in Taiwan identify as both Taiwanese and Chinese, while diaspora from Taiwan in America tend to identify as solely one or the other. We talk about blending Chinese, Taiwanese, and American identity with Michelle Kuo and Albert Wu. Michelle and Albert moved back to their heritage country mid-career and have been sharing their Asian American observations and introspections about living in Taiwan in their weekly newsletter, A Broad and Ample Road. Featuring Michelle Kuo and Albert Wu: Remembering Michelle’s grandmotherA Broad and Ample RoadReflecting on Albert’s motherA Broad and Ample RoadIs “Asian-American” a viable category?A Broad and Ample RoadBreaking Bad reviewReading with Patrick陪你讀下去TwitterInstagramTwitterAbout Michelle: Michelle Kuo is a visiting professor in the law program at National Taiwan University. She has worked with Teach for America, the Criminal Justice Institute, the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, Centro Legal de la Raza, the Prison University Project at San Quentin, RAICES, and the Stanford Three Strikes Project. She has started a nonprofit, Dialogue & Transformation, which works to create dialogue among formerly incarcerated people across the world. About Albert: Albert Wu is a global historian, focusing particularly on the transnational connections between Germany and China, the history of religion, and the history of medicine. He is currently an Associate Research Fellow at the Institute of History and Philology, Academia Sinica. After studying history at Columbia University, he has taught at the American University of Paris, UC Berkeley (where he earned his PhD), and the Prison University Project at San Quentin State Prison. Vocab: 外省人 waishengren - Family from mainland China who moved to Taiwan to escape Communism in the late 1940s 本省人 benshengren - Family who was already in Taiwan when waishengren came Other resources mentioned: Changes in the Taiwanese/Chinese identity of TaiwaneseThe Ethics of IdentityI've Got the Light of FreedomConnect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan faceboo Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

The mass shooting at the Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church in Laguna Woods, CA has sparked conversation about the significance of the Presbyterian Church for many Taiwanese individuals. Annie and Angela interview Christine Lin, a lawyer and expert on the history and influence of the Presbyterian Church in Taiwan who also conducts research on Taiwanese American identity. The hosts also share their own experiences with Christianity. Featuring Christine Lin: Survey of Taiwanese Americans on Identity IssuesThe Presbyterian Church in Taiwan and the Advocacy of Local AutonomyWhat Impacts a Taiwanese Americans' Political Identity?Chinese America: History & Perspectives–The Journal of the Chinese Historical Society of AmericaGunman Targets Taiwanese Faith With Long Pro-Democracy LinkLinkedInAbout Christine: Christine Lin is a Taiwanese American lawyer. Her research on the topic of the Presbyterian Church in Taiwan inspired her to pursue a career in human rights, refugee, and immigration law. Currently, she is the Director of Training and Technical Assistance at the Center for Gender & Refugee Studies based at UC Hastings College of the Law where she has taught the Refugee & Human Rights Clinic. Previously, she was the Legal Director of Hong Kong Refugee Advice Centre and taught refugee legal assistance clinics at the University of Hong Kong and the Chinese University of Hong Kong. More resources: WikipediaNPRTaiwanese by the Numbershttps://nyti.ms/3mDXG2qConnect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

The Chinese name for America, 美国/美國/měiguó, translates to “Beautiful Country”. We talked with author Jane Kuo about her experience as a 1.5-generation immigrant bridging Chinese, Taiwanese, and American identity. Her family’s pursuit of the American Dream inspired her debut novel In the Beautiful Country which is available for pre-order before its June 28 release (delayed from June 14 due to supply chain issues). Featuring Jane Kuo: In the Beautiful Countryjanekuo.cominstagram.com/janekuowritesfacebook.com/janekuowritestwitter.com/janekuowritesAbout Jane: Jane Kuo is a Chinese and Taiwanese American writer. She is an immigrant and the daughter of immigrants. Jane grew up in Los Angeles in the 1980s and as a child, she spent her weekends and summers working in her family’s fast food restaurant. Jane’s middle grade novel, In the Beautiful Country, is a fictional story inspired by the events of her childhood. Other works mentioned: Inside Out and Back AgainWikipediaAsian Comedian Destroys America!English language writing by Taiwanese Americans about the May 15 shooting in Laguna Woods, California New Bloom MagazineConfusion About ‘Chinese’ Or ‘Taiwanese’ Identity Of Gunman After Shooting At Taiwanese Church In CaliforniaTaiwaneseAmerican.orgWe grieve the May 15th Shooting at Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian ChurchUSA TodayChurch shooting is deeply personal for us as Taiwanese AmericansInstagram videoConnect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

Who were the Taiwanese before they called themselves Taiwanese? In this episode, we’re going back to school for a crash course in history with Dr. Evan Dawley. We discuss identity on the island before the Japanese colonial period, the influences of Japanese colonizers and the Kuomintang-led Republic of China, and identity among the modern Chinese diaspora. This historical overview of the formation and evolution of the Taiwanese identity provides context for present day conversations. Resources mentioned: Becoming Taiwanese: Ethnogenesis in a Colonial City, 1880s to 1950sHarvard University PressChinese editionNTU PressTaiwanPrimarySources.comWorld Congress of Taiwan StudiesOrphan of AsiaGreen IslandTrends of Core Political AttitudesThe Good Immigrants: How the Yellow Peril Became the Model MinorityThe Great Exodus from China: Trauma, Memory, and Identity in Modern TaiwanAmerican Exodus: Second-Generation Chinese Americans in China, 1901–1949Remembering China from Taiwan: Divided Families and Bittersweet Reunions after the Chinese Civil WarThe War in Ukraine Has Unleashed a New WordMore publicationsAbout Evan: Evan Dawley is Associate Professor of History at Goucher College, where he has taught since 2013, and he previously worked in the Office of the Historian at the U.S. Department of State. His research relates to modern East Asian history, with particular attention to Taiwan, China, and Japan, as well as identity formation, imperialism, and international/transnational history. Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

We hope that sharing this conversation helps anyone who has chased top grades, Instagram followers, performance ratings and promotions at work, or other external metrics of success. Taking and sharing personality tests teaches us new things about ourselves and each other. We discover that we each have a strong inner tiger parent, and we discuss the paradox that seeking external validation actually ends up blocking deeper social connections. Throughout, we realize how our respective beliefs about our own self-worth manifest differently in our podcast partnership. Take the personality tests: 16personalities.com/free-personality-test personalitypath.com/free-enneagram-personality-test Personality Types mentioned about ourselves: Enneagram Type 1: Perfectionist Enneagram Type 3: Achiever Enneagram Type 5: Investigator 16 Personalities ISTJ Logistician Also mentioned: Myers-Briggs MBTI® Types Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

Inspired by our conversation with Carey Lai, hosts Angela and Annie share the rocky beginnings of starting their careers in the early ‘00s when nobody was hiring after the dot-com bubble burst. We also share a different way of looking at the career journey to get around leadership ceilings. Mentioned: “10 big dot-com flops” (money.cnn.com) “Careers are a jungle gym, not a ladder” - excerpt from Lean In by Sheryl Sandberg Related episode: Bringing Taiwanese values to entrepreneurship with Carey Lai (Hearts in Taiwan S2E3) Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

“Budget Conscious | Authentic Relationships | Integrity”—these values distinguish Conductive Ventures from other venture capital firms that hold the keys to which startups get funding in Silicon Valley. Our guest Carey Lai shares how his story and shared values with co-founder Paul Yeh have shaped their unique formula for investment that have led to a portfolio of companies that is two-thirds led by minorities and first-generation immigrants. Featuring: Conductive Ventures (conductive.vc) Sand Hill Road as the epicenter of venture capital (Wikipedia) The story behind Bay Area dim sum legend Koi Palace (Eater) Related episode: Hearts in Japan (Hearts in Taiwan S1E14) About our guest: Carey Lai is a Founding Member and Managing Director at Conductive Ventures which focuses on investments in the areas of software, hardware and technology enabled services. Prior to Conductive Ventures, Carey spent over four years investing at Intel Capital. He also worked at Institutional Venture Partners and the Technology Investment Banking Group at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Carey has an M.B.A. from the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania, and he graduated with a B.A. in International Economics from the University of California Los Angeles. Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

Whether you call your grandmother “amah”, “popo”, “waipo”, “nainai”, “mama”, “grandma”, or something else, she plays a key role in your connection to your heritage. Amah Faraway tells the story of how young Kylie transforms from feeling unsure and reluctant to embracing her grandmother and her heritage country. We got to talk with author Margaret Chiu Greanias and illustrator Tracy Subisak and found many common threads that the Taiwanese diaspora will see reflected throughout this delightful picture book. Where to buy Amah Faraway: Signed by MargaretSigned by TracyYour preferred booksellersMargaret Chiu Greanias TwitterInstagramWebsiteTracy Subisak InstagramWebsiteAdditional resources: videograndparentsaunts/unclesTaiwanesevideotextTAGPConnect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

Hosts Annie Wang and Angela Yu kick off Season 2 with an interview of Abigail Hing Wen, author of New York Times bestseller Loveboat, Taipei which is currently being filmed in Taiwan starring Ashley Jiao, Ross Butler, Nico Hiraga, and Chelsea Zhang. The Young Adult novel’s sequel Loveboat Reunion hits bookshelves January 25. We learned how Abigail's family background has shaped her worldview, got a realtime account of what it's like to run around Taiwan with movie stars, and talked frankly about how bamboo and glass ceilings are very real for Asian women in tech. From references to The Baby-Sitters Club and Bridgerton to Angela quoting Abigail's books back to her three times, this conversation is unique to say the least. Featuring: Follow @abigailhingwen on Instagram Subscribe to Abigail's newsletter on abigailhingwen.com Where to buy: Loveboat, TaipeiLoveboat ReunionSerendipityIf you're interested in a similar immersive cultural camp for the current generation of Taiwanese American youth who have completed grades 4 through 12, look into Leading Youth Forward (LYF) Camp organized by the Taiwanese American Citizens League and held in the San Francisco Bay Area. Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

Hearts in Taiwan podcast is back with a second season! Hosts Annie Wang and Angela Yu share what you can look forward to this year. Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

Was it crazy for two women in their 40s with kids, full-time jobs, and no media experience to start a podcast during the pandemic? From our first emails in January, we never would have guessed that by September we’d be wrapping our first season with 18 episodes and hundreds of listeners. In this episode, we look at the progress we’ve made on our journey so far, what we’ve learned about ourselves and each other, and the surprises we’ve encountered along the way. We reveal popular episodes and our favorites, then share what’s in store ahead. Connect Rate and review Get an email when we publish next instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

As English-speaking parents living outside our heritage country, we discuss how we go about passing our culture on to our kids. From seeking out Mandarin Immersion schools and caregivers, cultivating our kids' palates to appreciate Taiwanese food, and planning to visit Taiwan regularly for family vacations (when we can again!), we share what’s worked and what hasn’t across our kids ranging from age 4 to 12. Angela also shares the many new resources that have cropped up from entrepreneurs in the past 5 years to help parents like us. Links: NTNU Mandarin summer camp Mina Learns Chinese Instagram Reels featuring shows and movies on Netflix and Disney+ with Mandarin audio tracks Go! Go! Cory Carson on Netflix by Alex Woo and Stanley Moore of Kuku Studios Alok Menon on Instagram normalizing body hair and trans beauty La La Learn app for iPhone and iPad by Alice Han featuring children’s songs in Mandarin Hearts in Taiwan raising bilingual kids resources page lists all the books we mentioned and more (https://heartsintaiwan.com/raising-bilingual-kids) Connect (check for our giveaway here!): instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com/voicemail Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

When we recorded our episode on politics in Taiwan, we practiced a mock debate to help us understand the viewpoints of the green and blue ends of the Taiwanese political spectrum. The issue in question: Should Taiwan formally declare independence from China in the next 12 months? Each of us was randomly assigned to represent one side in this bonus companion to the “50 shades of green (and blue)” episode. Credit: Cover photo of the infamous “pig guts brawl” in Taiwan’s legislative yuan by Gwydion M. Williams on Flickr with additional edits by Hearts in Taiwan. Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com/voicemail Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

Annie and Angela tackle a taboo topic: politics in Taiwan! From dark green to light green and light blue to dark blue, we attempt to understand why each party believes what they do, and relate our observations to American pop culture. Plus, Angela asks for your recommendations for earth-friendly products that aren’t made in China. Further reading: pig guts in 2020commonplace in 2017OFTaiwanWikipediaarticlefreebritney.netcliparticleclipHBO homepageYG explains on YouTubeBBCNew Bloom MagazineTaiwan Insightofficial textarticleTaiwaneseAmerican.org#notsponsored: Piico floss picks made in Taiwan (website, Instagram) Indigenous American-owned businesses (IG Guide, Website) Buy Nothing project for neighborhood sharing (buynothingproject.org) Credit: Cover photo by tomscy2000 on Flickr depicting a young protester during the Sunflower Movement Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com/voicemail Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

Japan has some of the more notable cultural influences on Taiwan due to its 50 year occupation of Taiwan from 1895 to 1945. We explore some of the marks that Japan has left and its unique approach to colonization of Taiwan. Annie's mom returns for a guest appearance. Sources The Empire of Japan (Wikipedia) Kano - 2014 movie about the baseball team Ear cleaning with mimikaki (JapanTravel) Ear cleaning in Chengdu, China (BBC) Ellie Yang Camp’s post on ear wax types (Instagram) Symbolism of plum blossom 梅花 in Taiwan (Wikipedia) The Twenty-One Demands from Japan to China in 1915 (Wikipedia) Nanjing Massacre (Wikipedia) Further reading https://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-taiwan-japan-20171106-story.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/04/magazine/taiwan-china.html Taiwan as part of the Japanese empire (Encyclopedia Britannica) Longing for the Spring Breeze song history (Wikipedia) #NotSponsored EVA Air Hello Kitty flights EVA Air Hello Kitty flights to nowhere in August 2020 (CNN) EVA Air flight map draws thumbs-up sign (Scooper) Credits “望春風Longing for the Spring Breeze” was one of the first Taiwanese pop songs during the period of Japanese colonization. Longing for the Spring Breeze cover by 薛詒丹 Dan Hsueh and 翁光煒 Wico Weng Original recording of Longing for the Spring Breeze Connect instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

Just how big is the worldwide Taiwanese community anyway? We look at the numbers past and present that make up Taiwan and its diaspora, and discuss why it’s hard to track and measure the Taiwanese diaspora. The numbers surprise us and also leave us with some mysteries. Sources: UN world population prospects for Taiwan CIA World Factbook page on Taiwan Wikipedia page on Austronesian peoples Wikipedia page on Christianity in China Taipei vs New Taipei City Quora answer Wikipedia page on Overseas Taiwanese Taiwan’s OCAC report of 1M Taiwanese emigrants to the US (as of 2010) TACL summary of Census 2020 “Write in Taiwanese” campaign Credits: "Level Up" by Vienna Teng (Spotify) Cover photo: Liao Chen-huei, Taipei Times Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com/voicemail Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com