We Can Do Hard Things

Megan Falley takes over the mic to interview Glennon, Abby, and Sara Bareilles about Come See Me In the Good Light—their Oscar-nominated documentary honoring poet Andrea Gibson and the last year Meg and Andrea spent together. They each share why they said yes to the project, how the film changed the way they understand love, grief, and being fully alive, and why this isn’t a story about death—it’s a story about living more vibrantly right now. Come See Me in the Good Light premiered at the 2025 Sundance Film Festival, where it won the Festival Favorite Award, and has since been named one of the National Board of Review’s Top 5 Documentaries of the year, earning major honors including nominations at the Satellite Awards and Film Independent Spirit Awards. Now nominated for the Academy Award for Best Documentary — to be presented Sunday, March 15 — Come See Me in the Good Light can be streamed on Apple TV. For more episodes with our friends, Andrea, Meg, and Sara, check out: The Bravest Conversation We’ve Had: Andrea Gibson Megan Falley Knows What Love Is An Unforgettable Double Date with Andrea Gibson & Megan Falley Let Our Sundance-Winning Film Remind You What Love Is with Megan Falley Watch OUR 1ST FILM – Come See Me in the Good Light: Meg Falley (& Andrea Gibson) Sara Bareilles: How to Remember Yourself Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

At this moment, as the Epstein horrors are being revealed and many survivors are carrying fresh grief and reopened wounds, we wanted to return to one of the most grounding conversations we’ve ever shared. This is Part 1 of our honest and deeply hopeful conversation with activist, advocate, and founder of the me too movement, Tarana Burke. For nearly three decades, Tarana has worked at the intersection of racial justice, gender equity, and anti-violence—interrupting systems that disproportionately harm marginalized people, particularly Black women and girls. We talk about the impossible double bind survivors live inside of—how community can both protect and silence—why so many are taught to perform “goodness” to survive, and how joy, truth-telling, and collective care become radical acts. Tarana’s work has not only exposed hard truths about power and harm, but has also expanded access to resources, support, and pathways forward—inviting each of us to find our place in the movement. For Part 2 of our conversation with Tarana Burke, go here. And for Amanda’s two-part series on the Epstein Files, go here: THE EPSTEIN FILES, EXPLAINED: Everything You Need to Know EPSTEIN SURVIVORS’ ATTORNEY WHO EXPOSED GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY: Brad Edwards CW: We reference sexual abuse and trauma. About Tarana: Tarana J. Burke has been working at the intersection of racial justice, arts and culture, anti-violence and gender equity for nearly three decades. Fueled by a commitment to interrupt systemic issues disproportionately impacting marginalized people, like sexual violence, particularly for black women and girls, Tarana has created and led campaigns that have brought awareness to the harmful legacies surrounding communities of color. Specifically, her work to end sexual violence has not only exposed the ugly truths of sexism and spoke truth to power, it has also increased access to resources and support for survivors and paved a way forward for everyone to find their place in the movement. Tarana’s Book: Unbound: My Story of Liberation and the Birth of the Me Too Movement Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

Do not miss the first part of Amanda’s Epstein files conversation. To listen, click here: THE EPSTEIN FILES, EXPLAINED: Everything You Need to Know. Brad Edwards – who has represented 200 Epstein survivors for almost two decades – is the attorney who sued to expose what was later found by a federal judge to be the federal prosecution’s prolonged, coordinated collusion to protect Jeffrey Epstein from facing justice for his crimes. In this exclusive conversation with Amanda, in which Brad shares experiences during his advocacy for survivors he has never shared before, he walks us through: The incredible courage and resilience of the survivors; The secret immunity deal between federal prosecutors and Epstein and the government cover-up; How the DOJ seems to be intentionally revictimizing survivors in the way they are releasing the Epstein Files; How he secretly worked with the SDNY to finally arrest Epstein in 2019; and What the path forward is for accountability. This episode centers survivors and the people who never stopped fighting for them, and asks what comes next. About Brad Edwards: Brad Edwards is the founding partner of Edwards Henderson and the author of Relentless Pursuit: My Fight for the Victims of Jeffrey Epstein. He is a nationally recognized Board Certified Civil Trial attorney who specializes in providing civil representation for children, survivors of sexual abuse, and victims of violent crimes. From 2008 through 2019, Brad served as pro-bono lead counsel on behalf of the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein in the seminal case upholding crime victims’ rights in this country. In 2019, the Federal Judge on the case ruled in favor of the victims, holding that the government had violated the rights of Epstein’s victims under the Crime Victims’ Rights Act when Epstein entered into a Non-Prosecution Agreement without the knowledge of his victims in 2008. In 2023, Brad spearheaded unprecedented litigation as lead counsel against the banking institutions that facilitated Epstein’s sex-trafficking operation for decades. The litigation ended in a $290 million settlement with JP Morgan Chase and a $75 million settlement with Deutsche Bank on behalf of hundreds of survivors from all over the world. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

In this special episode of You’re Not Gonna Believe This Bullshit, Amanda lays out decades of the history, facts, and reporting of the Epstein case—clearly, chronologically, and in one place. This is not about conspiracy theories or salacious details. What we have instead is a documented record showing how, for more than a decade, the justice system worked to protect Jeffrey Epstein and his associates while survivors and advocates and journalists fought to expose the truth. Amanda walks through who Epstein was, how he became so powerful and untouchable, how his crimes were uncovered and buried, and what the Epstein files reveal—and still conceal—about power, accountability, and justice. This episode is a speaking meditation for justice, honoring survivors and those who never stopped pushing for the truth. Note: This episode references Epstein’s crimes only as necessary to explain the systemic injustices involved. Please take care while listening. Next: Come back Thursday for a special exclusive drop featuring Brad Edwards, an attorney who has represented more than 200 of Epstein’s survivors, and is still fighting for them. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

What really happened at Girls Just Wanna Weekend? (Short answer: joy, gyrations, no restraint.) Glennon and Abby take you inside Brandi Carlile’s Mexico gathering—a wildly safe, queer weekend beaming with music, connection, and collective joy. They unpack their now-iconic onstage “Come to My Window” performance (there were lifts), how rehearsals accidentally became couples therapy, and why joy, sexuality, and community aren’t distractions from this moment—but acts of resistance. Plus: the magic of Titans of Americana, where Brandi shared the stage with her legendary idols and Tish—bridging generations and honoring the past while lifting up what’s next. Listen to last year’s debrief – 277. What Happened Last Weekend: Girls Just Wanna Have Fun & We DID! – here. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

Everything is chaotic and overwhelming. The news is relentless. So we did the only thing that felt honest: we showed up, unprepared, and talked about how we’re actually feeling–and what helps us stay engaged, grounded, and human in this moment. In this conversation, we talk about why overwhelm is a strategy, how to stop spiraling in fear, and why real change doesn’t come from doomscrolling or waiting for a government hero–but from finding grounded leaders in our communities, organizing locally, and trusting ourselves to respond to what today is asking of us. If you’re exhausted, scared, angry, or unsure what to do next–this episode is for you. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

Everything is chaotic and overwhelming. The news is relentless. So we did the only thing that felt honest: we showed up, unprepared, and talked about how we’re actually feeling–and what helps us stay engaged, grounded, and human in this moment. In this conversation, we talk about why overwhelm is a strategy, how to stop spiraling in fear, and why real change doesn’t come from doomscrolling or waiting for a government hero–but from finding grounded leaders in our communities, organizing locally, and trusting ourselves to respond to what today is asking of us. If you’re exhausted, scared, angry, or unsure what to do next–this episode is for you. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

In this special, urgent, must-listen conversation, Brittany Packnett Cunningham helps us understand what’s happening in Minnesota right now—and why it’s not an isolated moment. She explains how years of organizing made Minnesota ready to resist state violence, why this moment is more dangerous than 2014 or 2020, and what it actually means to move from watching in horror to taking action. Brittany lays out what every one of us can do today—wherever we live—to protect our neighbors, build real organizing infrastructure, and prepare for what’s coming next. This is a wake-up call. And a roadmap. You can listen to our prior conversation with Brittany Packnett Cunningham – How to Create Unbreakable Bonds HERE. About Brittany: Brittany Packnett Cunningham is a leader at the intersection of culture, justice and policy. Brittany is Founder of the social impact agency Love & Power Works, Host and Executive Producer of the news and justice podcast UNDISTRACTED. A St. Louis native, Brittany was instrumental in the coordination of the Ferguson Protest following the 2014 police murder of 18-year-old Michael Brown. After George Floyd was murdered by police in Minneapolis in 2020, Brittany became one of the most visible national movement voices for policy, budget and electoral change. As the world watched the executions of Renee Good and Alex Pretti by ICE within – both within 2.2 miles of where George Flloyd was murdered – as well as the execution of Keith Porter Jr by ICE in California, Brittany is leading us in connecting this police state violence – including the killing of Geraldo Lunas Campos, Luis Gustavo Nunez Caceres, and Luis Beltran Yanez–Cruz and more than 50 other deaths in ICE detention – toward collective liberation. You can find her @MsPackyetti on all social media. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

By the end of January, most of us have realized the truth: our resolutions didn’t fail—we just never needed them. Instead of trying to fix ourselves (again), this conversation invites us to do something braver: get curious about who we already are underneath all the shoulds. Artist and designer Justina Blakeney helps us tune into what she calls “the tingle”—that quiet spark of delight, curiosity, and aliveness that knows exactly where we’re meant to go. When we trust what delights us, we don’t just decorate our homes—we redecorate our lives. For the good of the realm. - How to stop fixing yourself and start trusting what feels alive and true- Why delight, creativity, and “the tingle” are clues—not indulgences - How following what’s good for you becomes good for your family, your work, and the world About Justina: Justina Blakeney is a multidisciplinary artist, designer, and New York Times Bestselling Author. She is the Founder and Chief Creative Officer of the home décor brand, Jungalow® and the author of several design books including Jungalow; Decorate Wild! and The New Bohemians book series. Justina lives in Los Angeles with her husband, Jason, their kiddo, Ida, her kitties, Juju and Nova, and 52 houseplants. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

Amanda’s first You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. show is here: The myths and truth of BILLIONAIRES! We pull back the curtain on how billionaires were made, how much they have, how they skate on public benefits while hoarding the fruits of our labor, how they pretend to fight to keep us distracted fighting with each other (while we barely get by on their scraps), what we learned from them in the Epstein files—and how we get our cookies back. Joined by author and political analyst Anand Giridharadas, we break down: - What the Epstein emails reveal about the unwritten rules billionaires play by;- What Anand learned about billionaires from the Mandani campaign; and - Why this moment offers hope for building a more just world where we get to have nice things. About Anand: Anand Giridharadas is the author of the New York Times bestseller The Persuaders, the international bestseller Winners Take All, The True American, and India Calling. A former foreign correspondent and columnist for The New York Times for more than a decade, he has also written for The New Yorker, The Atlantic, and Time. He is an on-air political analyst for MSNBC. He is the publisher of the newsletter The Ink. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

What happens when your mind makes a convincing case for staying safe—but your body is quietly asking you to move toward something warmer? In this beloved conversation, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda return to their very first talk with Martha Beck, whose work has helped them come home to themselves again and again. Martha offers a simple, radical way to stop living by consensus, quiet the spinning mind, and reconnect with the inner compass that knows what is true. This episode is an invitation to pause, feel what you feel, know what you know—and begin again. - How to tell the difference between fear-based thinking and the deep wisdom of your body- The question Martha asked Glennon when she was scared to choose love—and why it changed everything - How to gently cultivate joy when life feels exhausting, overwhelming, or impossibly hard More episodes with Martha Beck: 67. How to Get More Joy with Martha Beck 121. Martha Beck & Rowan Mangan: Polyamory & Throuple Life 252. Martha Beck Helps Amanda Let Go253. Is it Real Love or Spider Love? With Martha Beck 375. How to Stop Worrying with Martha Beck About Martha: Dr. Martha Beck, PhD, is a New York Times bestselling author, coach, and speaker. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science, and Oprah Winfrey has called her “one of the smartest women I know.” Martha is a passionate and engaging teacher, known for her unique combination of science, humor, and spirituality. Her recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller and an Oprah’s Book Club selection. Her new book, Beyond Anxiety: Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life’s Purpose, is available now. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

We start the year by asking a simple question: Why does something that’s supposed to be fun—like youth sports—feel so awful? After a scary incident at their daughter’s soccer game, Glennon and Abby talk honestly about how pressure, performance, and social capital have overtaken what was supposed to be fun. And why this problem isn’t about the kids—it’s about us. We share what’s ahead for We Can Do Hard Things in 2026, reflect on everything we’ve built together, and talk about letting go of what no longer fits so we can feel both held and free.- Why youth sports—and so many other systems—stopped being fun - How to re-enter old worlds without losing yourself - What healing looks like when it’s about trust, not quitting - What to expect from We Can Do Hard Things in 2026 Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings TikTok — https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow

We’re starting 2026 with a quick hello and a warm welcome to our YouTube listeners. This brief episode explains a small but intentional shift in how we’re sharing the show. We’re re-routing back to audio-only to stay aligned with what feels best for us. If you’re joining us from YouTube, thank you. If you’ve always been here in audio, thank you. We love you, Pod Squad. More to come. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings TikTok — https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow

Glennon sits down with artist and healer Eset Rose for a grounding, soul-stirring conversation – live from the Kripalu Center in Massachusetts – about what it really means to stop abandoning ourselves. They discuss burning old scripts, reimagining relationships, claiming agency, the spiritual power of midlife and menopause, and why “enoughness” can feel terrifying when we’ve been raised inside capitalism. This one is for anyone craving rest, renewal, and a gentler way to begin again.

Please be sure to listen to Part 1 of our conversation with Sonya Renee Taylor: ⁠Astrology for Skeptics: Sonya Renee Taylor Reads Our Charts ⁠ In the second part of our soul-shifting conversation, Sonya Renee Taylor returns to read Amanda’s astrological chart and shed more truth and wisdom on why we are the way we are. We explore: - Why Amanda struggles to trust comfort, rest, and security—and how she’s learning to surrender; - Why we can’t wish peace for the world without wishing it for ourselves; - How Glennon, Abby, and Amanda are redefining success—not as “hustle” but as ease, love, and enoughness, right here. For Part 1 of our conversation with Sonya, click here: Astrology for Skeptics: Sonya Renee Taylor Reads Our Charts About Sonya: Sonya Renee Taylor is a New York Times best-selling author of seven books, transformational thought leader, world-renowned activist, artist, and founder of the international movement The Body Is Not An Apology. She is podcast host, sought-after speaker and new world midwife. She is also an intuitive astrologer helping to decipher our unique soul work through the planets. Her work has reached millions of people by exploring the intersections of identity, healing, and social justice using a radical self-love framework. She continues to write, create, speak, teach, and transform lives globally.

The radiant and revolutionary Sonya Renee Taylor joins us to dive deep into astrology, in a conversation that will leave you feeling empowered, braver, and wiser. Sonya illuminates: - How astrology can return us to the wisdom that was ours all along; - How understanding our charts can help us eliminate suffering (the space between the knowing and the doing); and - What Glennon and Abby’s charts say about the way they see the world and themselves. If you’ve ever asked yourself, “Why am I the way I am?”—this conversation is for you. Come back for part two on Thursday to hear Sonya read Amanda’s chart—and to hear Glennon, Abby, and Amanda reflect on how this conversation has changed their lives. About Sonya: Sonya Renee Taylor is a New York Times best-selling author of seven books, transformational thought leader, world-renowned activist, artist, and founder of the international movement The Body Is Not An Apology. She is podcast host, sought-after speaker and new world midwife. She is also an intuitive astrologer helping to decipher our unique soul work through the planets. Her work has reached millions of people by exploring the intersections of identity, healing, and social justice using a radical self-love framework. She continues to write, create, speak, teach, and transform lives globally.

Ashley C. Ford returns to the pod today for a deeply personal, raw, and revelatory conversation about how we can love the world, our people, and ourselves through this trying moment. We explore: - Why we’re no longer certain that “to be loved is to be known”; - Why we resent our people when they don’t understand us—and how to find more love, peace, and acceptance in our relationships; - Abby’s realization that she doesn’t need to “fix” Glennon’s sadness; sometimes partnership looks like staying steady while your person feels it all. For those of us who feel lost, afraid, or alone: Ashley’s wisdom and clarity are exactly what we need. Snuggle in, open your minds and your hearts. We love you. For more of Ashley on We Can Do Hard Things: 52. FORGIVING & FINDING PEACE with ASHLEY C. FORD 53. How to Love Yourself & Let Yourself be Loved with Ashley C. Ford About Ashley: Ashley C. Ford is the author of the New York Times bestselling book, SOMEBODY’S DAUGHTER: A MEMOIR. She is also the former co-host of The HBO companion podcast Lovecraft Country Radio, and of Ben & Jerry’s Into The Mix. Ford lives in Indianapolis, Indiana with her husband, poet and fiction writer, Kelly Stacy, and their chocolate lab Astro Renegade Ford-Stacy.

The legendary, hilarious, and ferociously tender Rosie O’Donnell is here for an unfiltered conversation about how to survive the world while feeling it all. We discuss: - Why she left the U.S.—and how her new life in Ireland is healing her for the very first time; - How to be a mother when you’ve lost your mother; and - The letter Rosie wrote right after Abby’s DUI—and how it helped her heal. Pod Squad: Keep going hard and staying soft. We love you. About Rosie O’Donnell: Rosie O’Donnell is an Emmy Award–winning comedian, actor, producer, and cultural force who has shaped American entertainment for more than four decades. She first rose to national prominence as a stand-up comic and film actor before hosting The Rosie O’Donnell Show, which became one of the most celebrated daytime programs of its era and earned multiple Daytime Emmy Awards. Rosie’s film and television career has spanned everything from A League of Their Own and Sleepless in Seattle to acclaimed roles on The L Word, Curb Your Enthusiasm, SMILF, and And Just Like That. A passionate advocate for LGBTQ+ rights, children and families, and gun violence prevention, she founded Rosie’s Theater Kids and has raised millions for charitable causes throughout her career. Now living in Ireland, Rosie continues to write, paint, make art, and use her voice for justice.

How do we ever know what is enough – or feel like enough – in a world that pushes us to incessantly perform, perfect, collect, and earn? The extraordinary duo Suleika Jaouad and Jon Batiste are here for one of the richest conversations we’ve had about art, love, ambition, spirituality, and what it takes to remain ourselves. Together, we explore: - The “beast” we all carry: fear, perfectionism, control, or ambition—and how facing it is the only way out; - How we can all begin to alchemize our pain into creativity; and - How to hold onto the integrity of art, beauty, and love in a world that’s always searching for “more.” This conversation will help you take a deep breath and finally feel like it’s all enough – including you. . And check out our prior conversations we had with Suleika, the brilliant author of The Book of Alchemy: How to Stay Human; and How to Turn a Mistake into Magic. About Jon Batiste: Jon Batiste is a seven-time Grammy and Academy Award–winning artist whose music moves between jazz, soul, classical, and pop. His ninth studio album, Big Money, was released on August 22nd, and is supported by a national headlining tour with more than 30 stops. Audiences also know Jon from his Oscar-winning score for his chart-topping album Beethoven Blues and the acclaimed documentary American Symphony, which celebrates his artistry, resilience, and love with his wife Suleika at the height of his creative powers. About Suleika Jaouad: Suleika Jaouad is the author of the New York Times bestselling memoirs The Book of Alchemy and Between Two Kingdoms. She writes The Isolation Journals, the #1 Literature newsletter on Substack, and wrote the New York Times “Life, Interrupted” column. A three-time cancer survivor and visual artist, she appears with her husband Jon Batiste in the Oscar-nominated documentary American Symphony.

Who is your Inner Child, and what are they (still) saying? It’s amazing how strongly our little selves show up in our adult lives. Buckle Up – in this hilarious, profound conversation, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda invite their inner children to come forward and share their delights, blessings, and curses with the Pod Squad. Together, we spiral around: - Why some of us become the family “feeler” and others the “fixer,” and how we can all become more whole; - How to honor the part of you who planned, dreamed, or disassociated to survive, without letting that little kid run your whole adult life; and - How Abby is using music, dancing, and play as an antidote to her anxiety.