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The Dividend Cafe is your portal for market perspective that is virtually conflict-free, rooted in deep philosophical commitments about how capital should be managed, and understandable for all sorts of investors. Host David L. Bahnsen is a frequent guest on CNBC, Bloomberg, and Fox Business. He is the author of the books, Crisis of Responsibility: Our Cultural Addiction to Blame and How You Can Cure It (Post Hill Press), The Case for Dividend Growth: Investing in a Post-Crisis World (Post Hill Press), and Full-Time: Work and the Meaning of Life (Post Hill Press).

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The Dividend Cafe is your portal for market perspective that is virtually conflict-free, rooted in deep philosophical commitments about how capital should be managed, and understandable for all sorts of investors. Host David L. Bahnsen is a frequent guest on CNBC, Bloomberg, and Fox Business. He is the author of the books, Crisis of Responsibility: Our Cultural Addiction to Blame and How You Can Cure It (Post Hill Press), The Case for Dividend Growth: Investing in a Post-Crisis World (Post Hill Press), and Full-Time: Work and the Meaning of Life (Post Hill Press).

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Episodes
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The DC Today - Wednesday, October 18, 2023

10/18/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/48YpBB6 This is Trevor Cummings filling in for David Bahnsen. David is in the midst of day three of his annual TBG Money Manager Due Diligence trip. As mentioned, he will be back with you for the weekly Dividend Cafe on Friday. Markets were a bit more active today than yesterday. We also had a rebound in housing starts, another L for Jordan’s ballot push, and Biden seeking a monumental aid package for Israel. And off we go… Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:08:53

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The DC Today - Tuesday, October 17, 2023

10/17/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/46UIS4q Today David Bahnsen is on day two of the annual TBG Money Manager Due Diligence trip in New York. This is an exciting time of the year as our investment committee dives deep into all the portfolio particulars and then surfaces with a plethora of content to share with our clients as well as some actionable portfolio items. I believe this is year 18 of this trip and something that I know (1) David greatly enjoys and (2) has a meaningful impact on how we manage capital for our clients. Thank you, David, and we look forward to welcoming you back for the Dividend Cafe on Friday. With that said, I, Trevor Cummings, will take the reigns today and walk you through the latest market happenings. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:07:54

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Horror in Israel, History, and Your Portfolio

10/13/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3ZSi3fd I am writing this week’s Dividend Cafe from my apartment in New York City, very early on Friday morning, hours before I will leave for an all-day symposium I have attended every year since 2009 (besides the COVID-cancelled years, of course). I mention this only because my philosophy of dealing with markets in the aftermath of exogenous shocks and particularly geopolitical events was heavily influenced by the historical realities taught to me at this very symposium over the years. I do not learn anything new in attending any more; I just immensely benefit from the reinforcement. But this week we have had an event so tragic, so reprehensible, so infuriating, and yet also one that requires me to reinforce myself (perhaps redundantly) the principles and best practices prudent investors must hold dear. But I also brought up New York City, because it had a terrorist event of its own back shortly after I entered the business, one which also profoundly impacted me. I have talked a lot in the past about the history of it and lessons learned. The 9/11 moment is, all at once, one of the seminal moments in my younger adult life, the very first shocking moment in my investment career, and an event obviously connected directly to New York City. (You know, come to think of it, I was right here in March of 2020 as well when the COVID matter was becoming an American reality, and wrote about all of that, then, too. There is just a deep association for memorable market moments in my life and career with New York City). Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:26:43

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The DC Today - Thursday, October 12, 2023

10/12/2023
Today's Post -https://bahnsen.co/3FkhgKh The headline and Core CPI figures today were largely in line with expectations as the market opened. However, we witnessed a reversal of early morning gains throughout the session, resulting in both stocks and bonds closing lower. Interestingly, Fed futures remained relatively unchanged after the release of these numbers, hovering at approximately two-thirds, suggesting that the Fed is unlikely to make any significant changes in the foreseeable future. Today marks the one-year anniversary of the market lows experienced last year. What’s intriguing, though, are the disparities within the markets that contributed to the S&P 500’s impressive 22% gain over the past year, following a significant downturn in the previous year. Currently, less than half of the market is trading above its 200-day moving averages, indicating that the market’s performance has been far from universally strong. Financials, in particular, have experienced a nearly 20% decline during this recovery, and it’s worth noting that this has been the weakest small-cap return following a market bottom in history. However, there is good news amidst this divergence. The contrast between interest rate-sensitive sectors, such as small caps and financials, and the lack of broad market participation presents numerous opportunities for value investors like ourselves to look forward to. Active management will be crucial in navigating this complex landscape. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:09:06

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The DC Today - Wednesday, October 11, 2023

10/11/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3LYNG0J Treasury yields dropped again, and stocks rose again today. The minutes from the Fed meeting last month came out today and said nothing new or unsurprising at all. ExxonMobil agreed to buy Pioneer Resources for $59.5 billion in an all-stock deal that represents the largest oil and gas deal in over two decades. I am not sure that an Israeli ground invasion of Gaza is imminent. Even though I am convinced, Israel will (and should) do whatever it can to eradicate and punish this atrocity, a ground invasion appears to involve so much complexity and challenge that much of the work I have read in the last 24 hours suggests it may require more planning, nuance, and particulars than was initially expected. The IRS says Microsoft owes it $29 billion? They should’ve used TBG Tax! The House Speaker race is going to be very interesting, with a majority of Republicans voting to send up Steve Scalise for a vote, but not potentially enough to get him over the needed line in a whole House vote. More here: Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:05:57

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The DC Today - Tuesday, October 10, 2023

10/10/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3S0qSBs Markets today moved higher as bond yields came lower. One can argue that bond yields are dropping in response to comments from Fed governors yesterday (see below) but the more prominent factor is likely a slight flight-to-risk out of the war situation in Gaza. What it has done, though, is exacerbate the stock-bond correlation whereby they were both dropping in September and now are both rallying. Earnings season launched with Pepsi announcing their results before the market opened. Markets liked it. President Biden joined with European leaders in a joint statement taking an unambiguous stance against Hamas and for Israel. He gave a speech this afternoon that conceded there are American fatalities and hostages. Congress and even the White House are not really the challenge here – a rare thing to be able to say in this day and age. The challenge for the President will be, to borrow from my favorite political commentator, Mark Halperin, “the squad, and then Harvard students.” But there also will be a real challenge for the administration to maintain their posture with Iran (it will likely be impossible), and what can be done about American hostages taken by Hamas is not going to be easy either. Add to that the complexity of getting aid for Ukraine and Israel in the next 2-3 weeks, and this is going to be a challenging time at the White House. The death toll appears to be over 1,500 now. The reports all seem to indicate that one of the reasons Israeli intelligence picked up nothing on what Hamas was doing was that there was simply no electronic communication about it at all – none. The Republican mess over the next Speaker of the House is as blurry, evenly divided, and unclear as it was a week ago. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:15:06

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The DC Today - Monday, October 9, 2023

10/9/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3tpEJXU All attention this weekend immediately moved Saturday morning to the unspeakable attacks on Israel by Hamas, the declaration of war to protect themselves by Israel, and speculation as to what the ramification would be. I assure you ample commentary is provided on those subjects in this edition of The DC Today, An important thing to note today: the stock market was open, but bond markets (and banks) were not. There is obviously action in the bond futures world (indicating yields down and prices up), but with no cash market bond action it is simply a distorted and weird day. It only happens twice every year (Columbus Day being one of them), but it basically never happens following a weekend of such global turmoil. As an earnest believer in price discovery, I feel somewhat limited in terms of thoughts and deeds when all useful information is not actually available. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:11:35

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Current State of Affairs

10/6/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3LS40QV On August 1 of this year the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at 35,630. As of press time this morning, just a tad over two months later, it is trading just below 33,000. This is a -7.5% drop in about nine weeks, which we will discuss more in today’s Dividend Cafe. If -7.5% in nine weeks doesn’t seem like that big of a deal, it’s because it isn’t. However, what I didn’t mention is that almost all of that drop has been in the last three weeks (-6% of the -7.5%). The Nasdaq has fared a tad worse with similar timing in the numbers – a peak at the end of July, a slow drip down since, with an accelerated downturn the last few week. The right thing for me to do in this period is probably not write about it. By addressing it I enter the unavoidable territory of contradicting best behavioral practices around market downturns. And yet we exist to offer perspective, point-of-view, commentary, and conviction, and so to not address key market or economic activity would also be problematic. The reality is that a -5% or -7% drop in markets (or more, for that matter) is a par for the course, standard, status quo, always-to-be-expected part of equity investing. I shouldn’t (and won’t today) write as if it is an urgency or source of panic in any investor’s life. The behavioral realities around market volatility should (and will be today) constantly reinforced. And at the same time, there are particulars in this stage of the cycle that I think are worth unpacking. So today’s Dividend Cafe does it all today – it holds in tension the two things I most struggle with on these pages: the macro commentary of current events, and the behavioral wisdom of how not to react to such. Let’s jump in to the Dividend Cafe … Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:18:51

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The DC Today - Thursday, October 5, 2023

10/5/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3F8Luji More or less, there is one market movement right now, even if it has three parts. Bond yields and the dollar are in the same direction; stocks are in the opposite direction. Those three in those respective relationships are all part of one story, not three different stories. In a nutshell, I remain convinced that the story has become one of quantitative tightening. The Fed is a seller (sort of) of Treasuries, not a buyer (meaning they are not rolling over matured bonds). Global central banks are buying less to support their own currencies. And that leaves individuals and economic buyers who buy at good yields but not lower yields. On Capitol Hill, the race for the new speaker is setting up to be a real circus. I know, you are shocked. Gasoline is down over -20% in the last three weeks! Mary Daly of the San Francisco Fed said in a speech today that, wait for it, holding rates where they are is also restrictive monetary policy! Hmmmm, you don’t say. Other than that, it was an uneventful day, and the intra-day swing was only -225 points (the chart visually looks more violent) – all in a flat day. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:06:04

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The DC Today - Wednesday, October 4, 2023

10/4/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/46j9PPy Following another down day yesterday, we got a little reprieve in markets, with both stocks and bonds posting gains on the day. The biggest economic news on the day was the miss in ADP Payroll numbers, which starkly contrasted with yesterday's big upside surprise in the jobs openings report. More openings but fewer private payrolls could either mean there is a cyclicality or variability around the timing of correlation between the two or could have just been from the number of new job openings TBG just posted this month. Still, either way, the more significant number will be this Friday when nonfarm payroll numbers come out. While yields came off following today's economic data during the trading day, it is notable to see 10-year yields hit 4.88% in overnight trading and 30-year treasuries reach 5%. As a result, US debt interest expense is now just over 14% of tax revenue, which has not been the case since the late 1990s and has historically been a threshold in which fiscal austerity begins to show. Fact notwithstanding, last night, we also saw the ousting of the Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy, by his party for the first time in history for getting a bill passed not to cut spending to avoid a government shutdown. I strongly suspect deficits at 7% of GDP during full employment will keep volatility high in Washington as tough decisions must be made. While the Fed says higher rates are here for longer, I remain skeptical, given the tightening financial conditions we have already seen. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:08:22

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The DC Today - Tuesday, October 3, 2023

10/3/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3RJ28h3 Markets were hit hard again today, and I do imagine we are getting closer to some short-term capitulation, but you never know. The way the regional banks have been acting lately is noteworthy. This bond rally has not let up and is basically 100% of the current market story. Why have oil prices gone up so much even as gas prices have not really gone up (and have, in fact, come down)? Refinery margins have collapsed, period. There is more than one input to retail gas prices at the pump. Cleveland Fed President, Loretta Mester, is the latest Fed head to say she believes another rate hike is needed. But she also said part of that would depend on … “the UAW strike” ?????? Yep. She is not a voting member of the FOMC, by the way. You’ve heard all the talk about record levels of credit card debt. It is currently 3.7% of nominal GDP. It was 3.9% of nominal GDP in late 2019. It was 4.2% in 2010 after the financial crisis. Sorry, but the numerator is not the only number in a fraction. Market rates are tightening without the Fed. The idea that the Fed would pour gasoline on top of this is surreal to me. But so is modern central banking. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:06:20

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The DC Today - Monday, October 2, 2023

10/2/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3F3CrAp Ask David “A couple weeks ago in your ‘What to Look for in an Advisor‘ Dividend Cafe, you pointed out that most advisors outsource portfolio management and asset allocation, and you expressed your disagreement with that trend. I agree with you, but I was wondering if you could unpack the specific reasons for why you disagree with outsourcing the investment process and why there is merit in direct portfolio management by advisors.” ~ Nathan I really don’t feel strongly that most advisors should be managing capital directly, and in fact, for a significant amount of advisors I have met, considering their work ethic and intellectual capacity, I am glad they don’t. But I do feel that TBG should because we consider it our calling, part of our authentic skill set, and a huge part of our value proposition. What I believe is more universal, though, is that all advisors should have some baseline competence in capital markets, even if they do not practice security selection or portfolio management directly. And that they should be accountable for who they outsource to and not use third-party partners as mitigation of their own decision-making. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:23:32

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Long Term Capital Memories

9/29/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/4598Q3a I hope (and assume) that long-time and regular readers of Dividend Café know that I am a sucker for history. I think this is true of all history, going back thousands of years, covering many eras, geographies, nations, people, and events, but it is especially true of American history. 20th-century American history is not very old, but wow, is there ever a lot of material there. What happened in 1906 or 1915 or 1933 that matters to us today is “history” now – but when it was happening, it was “future history.” It was also well before I was born. There are, though, events in my lifetime, even my adult lifetime, that represent future history, much like the events of the early 20th century I allude to above. Knowing that I lived through these more recent events, that I have my own particular context to add, that they were both personal and all at once cultural – it all makes my interest in “modern events” of my adult lifetime that will be “future-historical” intense and profound. If I write too often or too obsessively about such things, forgive me, but it isn’t going to stop. I believe living through history being made is almost as fun as studying the history that was long ago made. And all of it I count one of the great blessings of this life. It deeply impacted my life and allows me to obnoxiously wax and wane nostalgically, but it also deeply impacts your portfolio, even today. For much of the last 25 years you might argue this event had the most significant market impact, period. I am not being hyperbolic. And that event is the subject of this week’s Dividend Café. Let’s jump into a little modern history and a 25th anniversary you will benefit from understanding. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:20:54

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The DC Today - Thursday, September 28, 2023

9/28/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/468UHnU This morning, we had a slew of economic data that moved markets modestly to the upside in stocks and bonds in a fairly positive trading day throughout the session. Q2 GDP revision was largely unchanged, jobless claims were better than expected, and Core PCE revision was also unchanged. Yields moved lower across the curve following the releases, which put some wind in the sails for most risk assets today. The inverted yield curve is slowly but surely becoming less so as longer rates rise, and is now half of what it was a month ago at 47 bps on 2/10’s from over 100 bps. With short rates anchored closer to Fed Funds, why are longer rates moving higher? A combination of the Fed’s QT, Japan’s exit of Yield Curve control, US budget deficits and less Treasury demand from China on falling exports. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:08:21

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The DC Today - Wednesday, September 27, 2023

9/27/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3rtSIve The market opened up a bit and got up nearly -150 points before dropping nearly -300 points (an intra-day swing of over -400 points) before rallying back a few hundred points and closing down just -68 points. Who knows what the next two trading days hold but right now the only asset class on my screen up on the month is the DOLLAR. Bonds, Gold, Europe, Emerging, TIPS, Small Cap, Tech. Utilities – you name it, all down. The dollar, up nicely (DXY). At this time we expect the government shutdown will kick in on October 1 (this Sunday). Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP Morgan, said yesterday that if rates were to get to 7% you would see a deflationary asset unwind and a lot of asset bubbles burst. The media ran with the comment as if he were predicting that rates would go to 7%, which of course, he was not. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:11:27

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The DC Today - Tuesday, September 26, 2023

9/26/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/45cmDG2 Markets were hit again today (five out of six days to the downside) as the Biden administration announced a major antitrust lawsuit against Amazon, and general market jitters continued (despite a flat day in bond yields). Why is the U.S. dollar up so much when things are supposed to be so bad in the U.S.? A good place to start might be the fact that yields are high and growth has been decent (and compared to other places, quite decent). Currency is a relative game, always and forever. More dollar bears have lost their faces and reputations, failing to understand that basic point more than anything else. To be totally honest (and believe it or not, I am serious right now), I cannot remember if “net neutrality” rules were supposed to ruin the internet and the world as we know it or if “rescinding net neutrality rules” was supposed to ruin the internet and the world as we know it. What I do know, or at least I think I know, is that we used to have them (I think), and then they were rescinded in the Trump administration (I think), and it doesn’t seem like a lot of horrible things happened in having them or not having them. And then this morning, I see that with the Biden Administration now having a majority of votes at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), the intent is underway to bring back net neutrality rules, which is either a good thing or a bad thing. I would have more to say if I could keep it all straight. Another Fed governor is talking about a further rate hike, and futures respond by INCREASING the odds of NO further hike. Follow the fed funds futures, not the rush to a microphone. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:09:32

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The DC Today - Monday, September 25, 2023

9/25/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/48qpYnM Status of the shutdown – Speaker McCarthy is trying to split enough of the far “right” (I hate that term applied here) to avoid a shutdown. He’s currently attempting to package several appropriations bills together and send them to the House for a vote. The votes appear to be questionable as to whether or not they will be there, and this does not avoid a shutdown. These bills, IF passed in the House, have no chance of passing in the Senate. There appear to be enough votes in the House against any form of continuing resolution whatsoever that keeping the government open past this weekend is highly unlikely. How it could play out: Option 1: The House passes a bill this week, the Senate amends it (to put it mildly), the House then rejects that, the government shuts down, a deal happens to end that, and Speaker McCarthy ends up removed from his post; OR, Option 2: No bill is passed out of the House, the Senate passes a bill, a deal is cut between House moderates and Democrats, and a shutdown is averted (with McCarthy likely removed shortly thereafter) I think Speaker McCarthy has moves to help avert a shutdown or, more likely, end one after it has started (see above). In both cases, I think he greatly improves his chance of being removed as Speaker. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:16:40

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The Fed's Pickle

9/22/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3EPBStR Actually, the inspiration for this week’s Dividend Cafe is not “why markets were down this week or this month” – but rather something more substantial and thematic. There are some “whys” that are more important than “whats” right now and big picture, I felt certain macroeconomic themes we are watching were worth a whole Dividend Cafe. That verbiage makes it sound kind of boring, but really, I am just under-selling the excitement of what lies ahead for those who jump into this Dividend Cafe … You will not want to miss the drama and fun. Off we go Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:24:16

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The DC Today - Thursday, September 21, 2023

9/21/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/48s8IyG The violence was most felt in the bond market as yields rallied dramatically at the long end of the curve. As yields did not move much (or at all) in the short end of the curve, you saw a fair amount of inversion eroded. It is all a rate story now – as stocks are following bonds, not vice versa. QT is tightening, and high rates are tightening (with the bond market doing more of it for them). Something has to break eventually. The Bank of England also left its interest rate alone, pausing after 14 consecutive increases. The House GOP was four votes short of having the votes needed to advance their compromise funding bill. Some tweaks are in motion to allow for a new vote next week. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:08:03

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The DC Today - Wednesday, September 20, 2023

9/20/2023
Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/44YX2Am The Fed basically was explicit in tying their “we need to stay restrictive” posture to the resilient economy (which, unfortunately to them, has been “expanding at a solid pace”). The market was up +200 points before the announcement and press conference, it dropped -100, rallied back +100, then dropped -150 (so still up over +50 points) before closing down -77 points (but with the Nasdaq down -1.53%). Bond yields at first barely moved but then the short end moved up five basis points and the long end flattish. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Duration:00:10:09