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Ruth Catlow is an artist, researcher, and recovering web utopian. Her projects include: the CultureStake app for collective cultural decision-making and LARPs for planetary-scale interspecies justice. She was an early visionary when it comes to seeing the potential of the blockchain to democratize art, and is the author of Radical Friends - DAOs and the Arts and Artists Re:thinking the Blockchain. Let’s dive in! Key Takeaways: Planetary scale interspecies justice and live action role play, or LARP More than human equal rights Effects of LARPing as a dog Pressure to maintain status and culture over tech Coordination vs collaboration and democracy Voting, deliberations, and understanding what we care about Complexities of nested systems Opting out of a system Catlow’s new book with Marc Garrett Additional Resources: Learn more about CultureStake Follow Furtherfield Amber Case on Controlling our own User Data Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

Austin is focused on developer onboarding and mentoring. He founded BuidlGuidl to empower builders to create resources and prototypes for the Ethereum ecosystem, and compensates and motivates them in the most web3 way. Ready to learn more? Let’s dive in! Key Takeaways: Subjective and trust-based compensation (03:04) Trustful UBI and scaling (08:29) How BuidlGuidl is funded (10:10) Shill or be shilled (11:41) UBI illustrated (14:13) Retroactive public goods funding (24:06) Austin, pre-crypto, pre-ETH (29:53) The story of ABI Ninja and Flashbots (33:44) Hottest Scaffold builds that are ready to fork (40:29) Important shills Speed Run Ethereum and Tech Tree (45:41) Additional Resources: Learn more about BuidlGuidl Follow BuidlGuidl Connect with Austin Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

This Week in DAOs - Feb 16, 2023 The Uniswap / a16z controversy explained Decision-making that benefits the investor When Flock chose Yahoo! over Google SushiSwap’s origin story A glimpse into the StarkWare Sessions Additional Resources: Learn more about Logos DAO Follow Isaac and Geoffrey Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

Gabriel Tumlos, Founder of Mochi, is an early contributor to the Ethereum ecosystem, and played essential roles at ConsenSys, Gnosis, Ujo Music, and the Decentralized Music Society. Prior to that, he led the first blockchain research initiative at KPMG. Key Takeaways: The best party at DevCon (01:12) Tooling or a coordination game (01:50) Sticking together for shared goals (03:47) A vision for how DAOs should be (9:38) Cyborg Camp (11:49) Role playing in an alternate universe (16:40) More on LARPing with Ruth Catlow and Black Swan (18:19) Lucid dreams: the proper metaverse (20:20) Visualizing Lucid Dreams with Midjourney (23:24) Web3 loves the moon (29:12) Inspired by The Three Body Problem (30:14) Non-euclidean metaverse and Escherian worlds (31:20) Creating a bidding war with villain dynamics (37:16) Letting communities die elegantly (38:52) Join the Dream Oscillator Cohort (41:32) Additional Resources: Learn more about Mochi Follow Mochi Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

This Week in DAOs - Feb 2, 2023 Gone phishing: an explainer on the latest scheme Exploiting contribution tracking and compensation (Don’t blame Coordinape) Vitalik and stealth addresses Regulation and giving DAOs a path towards scaling Additional Resources: Learn more about Logos DAO Follow Isaac and Geoffrey Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

In this week's episode of DAO or Never, we interview Ooli de Villèle, Cryptowitch, and David Mier y Teran, genesis members of FamilyDAO. The mission of FamilyDAO is to fund initiatives that support families. The word “family” is used with the broadest possible interpretation, inclusive of all possible configurations. Funding for FamilyDAO is generated by the Family Nouns project, a Nouns fork that generates and auctions one Family Noun everyday. Ready to learn more? Let’s dive in! Key Takeaways: FamilyDAO’s origin story (01:28) Welcoming families to IRL web3 events (04:48) Defining family structures and networks (07:40) Proposed: update the definition of family (9:44) Funding FamilyDAO by forking Nouns (13:26) DWeb Camp offers a preview (21:42) Parents and kids are not to be underestimated (28:40) Ranking web3 events by family-friendliness (33:01) Additional Resources: Connect with Ooli, Cryptowitch, and David Learn more about FamilyDAO Follow FamilyDAO Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

In our first This Week in DAOs of 2023 we discuss the upcoming events and emerging trends we’re most excited about. The DAO space is shifting from building DAOs to launch tokens, to building DAOs and asking what impact they can have on the world, and we couldn't be more hopeful. Key Takeaways: DAOs are born in Denver (1:03) Hydra: A DAO of DAOs (2:17) DAOs for organizing labor (6:21) DAOs for DeSci (7:25) Nouns.build for easy forks (11:35) KlimaDAO clarity (15:09) Additional Resources: Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

In this week's episode of DAO or Never, we are joined by Songyi and Anna, both of whom are founders, contributors, and advisors to multiple Impact DAOs. Both speak candidly about the advantages of the DAO structure and its current limitations. Anyone interested in understanding how DAOs can shape the world should tune in. Key Takeaways: Defining Impact DAO (01:20) Advantages of the Impact DAO structure (02:48) Human components of a successful Impact DAO (10:54) Human engagement and community evolution (15:28) Resolution: voting ≠ governance (19:54) Deliberation Spaces > Referendum Infrastructure (23:57) DAO space blind spots (28:40) Mycopunk and natural cycles of life and death (32:48) A DAO’s Purpose (35:10) Impact DAOs of our dreams (40:35) Additional Resources: Follow Songyi Follow Anna Read up on Weave Help Ukraine Now Learn about The Impact Collective Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never WTF is an Impact DAO? by Gaye Soykok The Definitive Guide to Impact DAOs by Impact DAO Media If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

In this week’s episode of DAO or Never, we’re experiencing deja vu - and a little bit of nostalgia - with Constitution DAO part II. We also talk about the work being done to understand and avoid exploits; the market for studying web3; and the release of a quick and easy way to build a Nouns-style community. Let’s dive in! Key Takeaways: Constitution DAO, Take Two Funding Exploit Research DXdao Avoided Exploit Explained Sotheby’s Metaversity Nouns Builder Released Additional Resources: Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

Peth, Summoner of MetaGame, began his journey into DAOs in the early days of MetaCartel, where he wrote the community’s black paper, and where the idea of MetaGame first emerged. He was inspired to gamify and coordinate the web3 onboarding experience after seeing how challenging navigating it could be, and how widespread the issue is. Despite its online existence, for peth, so much about web3 is IRL and tangible. He has masterfully crafted MetaGame's lore, which is interwoven with a curated community that meets in real life. Ready? Let’s dive in! Key Takeaways: MetaGame explained MetaGame success story: Saimano Meta, the prefix, and its origins MetaFest 2023, past and future MetaGame 1.0 and beyond MetaGame governance and tokenomics Peth’s web3 entrance How to contribute if you’re non-technical A purple giant space octopus Brain exchange channels Additional Resources: Learn more about MetaGame Follow MetaFam Connect with peth Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

We're kicking off DAOcember in this week’s episode of DAO or Never. On the docket: nostalgia in the form of DWeb Camp, hope in the form of lunar art installations, and opportunities to 'be the helper' with SAFE grants. Key Takeaways: What is DAOcember? (00:55) Key Features of DAOhaus (03:03) DWeb Camp Nostalgia (04:35) LunARC DAO explained (06:50) Crypto loves the moon (10:35) Safe Grants for safer self custody (12:20) Additional Resources: Join Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

At Quorum Media, they believe that contributing to a DAO is the best way to find engaging and rewarding work in the web3 economy. We couldn’t agree more. Quorum recently invited Logos’ Isaac Patka to discuss life before Logos, the future of DAOs, and everything in between. They also covered how Logos DAO incentivizes contributors, how Public Nouns raised over $200K for public goods in less than a month, the biggest opportunities in web3, and much more. Ready? Let’s dive in! Key Takeaways: Tell us more about the lasers (02:44) The Ethereum Yellow Paper (04:55) Before Logos DAO (9:14) Challenges with matching people to their perfect community (18:24) Logos’ incentivization system (21:05) There’s more to Nouns than meets the eye (26:05) The biggest opportunities in the DAO space (33:22) Additional Resources: Learn more about Quorum Media Follow Quorum Media Connect with Brandon Connect with Isaac Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

In this week's episode of DAO or Never, we interview Tracheopteryx, co-founder of Coordinape, and contributor to Yearn Finance. In describing the current state of DAOs, he says, "We are sovereign beings, responsible for our own actions in a global network, where we can connect with nearly anyone, built on a profoundly secure foundation." Intrigued? Let’s dive in! Key Takeaways: Reputation in DAOs (01:56) Adversarial World Views and Trust (03:03) Coordinape's Compensation System (10:00) Illustrating Compensation and Communication in DAOs (12:00) Integral Theory and Resource Sharing Intelligence (13:04) Experiments in Compensation (18:10) Postponing Compensation for Equity (20:56) Employee Mindstates vs Founder Mindstates (22:31) Reputation, an Extitutional Cost (23:30) Identity vs Identifiers (30:32) Holes in the DAO Space (39:55) Additional Resources: Learn more about Coordinape Follow Coordinape Connect with Tracheopteryx Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never Decentralized Society: Finding Web3’s Soul by Weyl, Ohlhaver, and Buterin Integral Theory by Ken Wilber Spiral Dynamics by Don Beck Holarchy Digital Identity is not Human Identity, and that Matters by Philip Sheldrake Books by David Graeber If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

In this week’s episode of DAO or Never, we talk about security, data, and reputation in DAOs, as well as some helpful DAO tools. Key Takeaways: Why scammers send tokens to wallets (01:58) Scam prevention by Fire (02:52) Exploiting Inattention in DAOs (08:07) Ten Steps to Keep Your DAO Safe (9:05) Data and reputation in DAOs (10:09) Philip Sheldrake on Decentralized Identity (11:17) MEE6 for managing Discord (13:33) DAO compensation, set it and forget it with Sablier (15:28) Additional Resources: Join Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

In this week's episode of DAO or Never, we interview Josh Tan and Michael Zargham, principal investigators at Metagov. Together, we discuss standards and infrastructure for digital self-governance, and more. Ready? Let’s dive in! Key Takeaways: The Metagov Origin Story (01:25) Law Students and Video Games (01:45) Metagov’s Research Priorities (07:35) Intro to DAOstar (10:20) Interfaces Standards and Systems Integration (11:05) Governance Layer for the Internet (11:40) Pluralism Explained (13:33) Governance Experience vs. Experiment (15:50) Misunderstanding the Nature of Governance (20:27) Ideas for Governing Wikipedia Better (21:40) Regulation by Pathetic Dot Theory (26:37) Getting Involved with Metagov (29:00) Additional Resources: Learn more about Metagov Join a Metagov Seminar Read about the Our Networks project Follow Josh Tan and Michael Zargham Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

In this week’s episode of DAO or Never, it's obvious that the DAO space is growing in scope, skill, and purpose. NeuraDAO and StoryDAO are looking to transform traditional industries and processes; Isaac Patka dives deeper into hacks and how DAOs can protect themselves; and Public Nouns holders are focused on Public Good. After you listen, be sure to check out the newest version of logos.xyz. Key Takeaways: NeuraDAO and how DeSci can transform research (0:48) StoryDAO: collaborative creativity in Hollywood (6:45) Highlights from Devcon Bogota (8:32) Making a Difference with Public Nouns (10:30) The Mango hacker seeks absolution (12:52) Check out the latest version of Logos.xyz (17:15) Additional Resources: Isaac Patka on Exploiting Inattention and Optimism in DAOs Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never

Jon’s web3 journey began at the end of the pandemic, when he invited friends that he’d only known online to his cabin in the Texas hill country. Ready to hear more about building Intentional Communities? Let’s dive in! Key Takeaways: What’s an Intentional Community? (01:12) Recreate the cool college dorm experience (02:55) Jon’s around the world ticket (07:03) How did modern-day dating inspire Cabin? (08:27) Autonomy, Flexibility and Ragequit (10:05) Cross pollinating nomads and locals (12:19) Balancing decentralization and leadership (14:25) Minister of water the plants (18:48) Not everyone is an extrovert (21:40) Building vs. buying (33:05) Scale at the rate of trust and community (42:00) Additional Resources: Learn more about Cabin Follow Creator Cabins Connect with Jon Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

In this week’s episode of DAO or Never, we talk about Public Nouns and how Nouns NFTs work; the launch of the SAFE token and delegating governance power; and how the Reality.eth attack actually happened. Let’s dive in! Key Takeaways: How Nouns DAO works (00:56) Nouns for Public Goods (03:29) Safe DAO and SAFE token launch (05:49) Delegating power as token holders (07:14) Reality.eth attack, how it happened (09:10) See you at DevCon (11:40) Additional Resources: Read Radical Markets by Eric A. Posner and Eric Glen Weyl Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

Sky Minert is a full time DAOist working with MetaCartel, DXdao, DAOhaus, DiamondDAO, Logos DAO, and more. Sky tells us the ins and outs of contributing to DAOs and DAO governance. He also explains why decentralization is so important to protect DAOs, and their products, from both malicious attacks and censorship. Ready? Let's dive in! Key Takeaways: Being a full-time DAOist (01:01) DXdao's origin story (04:45) Understanding holographic consensus (07:55) Addressing inattention and noise in the DAO space (11:45) Passing proposals (14:35) When to delegate (18:30) Decentralization as a defense mechanism (26:33) Sturdy governance (30:15) Upcoming IRL DAO-space highlights (36:20) Additional Resources: Follow DXDAO Connect with Sky Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform!

In this week’s episode of DAO or Never, we talk about the Merge and what exactly is proof-of-stake; reflect on MCON, Denver's flagship DAO event where investment DAOs took center stage; and how academics and research could benefit from DAOs, and vice versa. Let’s dive in! Key Takeaways: How did you spend the Merge? (00:58) Gas, performance, and proof-of-stake (02:40) NFTs and proof-of-stake (04:23) Watch out for post-Merge scams (05:05) Hope for DAOs at MCON (5:40) Investment DAO enthusiasm (08:14) Mixing academics and DAOs (11:41) Additional Resources: Learn more about Logos DAO Connect with Logos DAO on LinkedIn and Twitter Get all the news from DAO or Never