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Today, Hunter is joined once again by Public Interest lawyer Stephen Hanlon. This time, Hunter and Stephen are breaking down the five year plan that he hopes will fix Public Defense in Oregon. While it is surely an ambitious plan, this plan gives urges public defenders to do all that they can to force the powers that be to take the crisis seriously: case withdrawals. Guests: Stephen Hanlon, Public Interest Lawyer Resources: Oregon Report 5 Year Plan https://www.opb.org/article/2024/03/21/oregon-public-defense-report-more-attorneys/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by Lee Wachocki, a Public Defender and union leader in Portland, Oregon. As the Public Defender crisis continues in the state, this week is about figuring out how the state is responding. At the front line level, Lee reveals that little has functionally changed at his level to demonstrate the state is close to solving the problem. In fact, with Oregon recriminalizing drug possession, the state appears primed to super charge the issue. Guests: Lee Wachocki, Public Defender, Multnomah County Resources: Multnomah County DA Debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wehZ548c-OY DA Schmidt Endorsing Recriminalization Mike Schmidt Endorses Proposal to Recriminalize Hard Drugs (wweek.com) Bad Reporting on Public Defender Caseload Record Number of People Face Criminal Charges in Multnomah County With No Defense Attorney (wweek.com) Impacts of Recriminalization https://www.axios.com/local/portland/2024/03/19/public-defender-crisis-recriminalization-oregon Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined Professor Robin Bernstein to discuss her newest book, Freeman's Challenge: The Murder that Shook America's Original Prison for Profit. When many of us think of the for-profit prisons, we think of the post slavery south at places like Parchman. However, that is not where the story started. Today, Robin joins the show to discuss Auburn State Prison and what we can learn from the history of for profit prisons. Guests: Robin Bernstein, Dillon Professor of American History and Professor of African and African American Studies and of Studies of Women, Gender, & Sexuality, Harvard University Resources: Order the Book Here https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo213968137.html Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by the powerful Dorsey Nunn. At 19, Dorsey was given a life sentence. Over the next 11 years, Dorsey would be exposed to violence, abuse, and the political education that would awaken in him a lifelong desire to fight our prison system. Today, Hunter talks with Dorsey about his new book, What Kind of Bird Can’t Fly to discuss his lifetime of organizing for the rights of the current and formerly incarcerated. Guests: Dorsey Nunn, Executive Director Legal Services for Prisoners with Children, Co-Founder All of Us or None, Co-Founder Formerly Incarcerated Convicted People and Family Movement Resources: Order the Book Here https://www.amazon.com/What-Kind-Bird-Cant-Fly/dp/1597146323 Legal Services for Prisoners with Children https://prisonerswithchildren.org/staff-and-board/ All of Us or None https://prisonerswithchildren.org/about-aouon/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Leah Nelson of Alabama Appleseed. This time, they are joined by Callie Greer, a Community Navigator at Appleseed, to discuss Appleseed’s Afterward. This powerful report sought out to hear from victims and survivors of violence. As is often said on the show, the criminal legal system does a poor job of providing for the needs of all survivors of violence. In fact, the system often perpetuates the harm of those who need help following the tragic events in their life. By going to communities across Alabama, Appleseed hoped to capture the voice of so many people who want need more than just a criminal punishment to be made whole. Guests: Leah Nelson, Research Director, Alabama Appleseed Callie Greer, Community Navigator, Alabama Appleseed Resources: Read Afterward Here https://alabamaappleseed.org/afterward/ Alabama Appleseed https://alabamaappleseed.org/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by Brett Schandelson, the Director of the Montana Office of the State Public Defender. Last time he was one, we discussed his efforts to make Public Defense policy in Montana driven by data. Today, we discuss how those efforts have drastically turned the state system around. Specifically, Brett details how doing a better job of tracking cases and sticking to a workload standard has reduced turnover and helped retain Public Defenders throughout the state. Guests: Brett Schandelson, Director, Montana Office of the State Public Defender Resources: Office of the State Public Defender https://publicdefender.mt.gov/ Agenda-DIBC-12-13-2023.pdf (mt.gov) 61080-OPD-QFR-Dec2023.pdf (mt.gov) Quick video on the OPD Quarterly Update (at meeting start) Brett’s presentation 12/13/23 IBC OPD Section Materials https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Narrative-Response.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Fees-Assessed-and-Paid.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Ethical-Case-Management.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-FTE-Allocation.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Fees-Assessed-Q1-FY24.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Contractor-Capital-Hours-Q1-FY24.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Number-of-Matters-by-FTE-and-Contractors-Q1-FY24.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Number-of-Matters-Without-MCA-Violations-Q1-FY24.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Active-Matters-and-Weights-December-7-2023.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-HB-190-Annual-Plan-FY24.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-IBC-Update-Dec2023.pdf Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter sat down with Dr. Shameka Stewart, a juvenile forensic speech language pathologist. While speech language pathologists have long been around, Dr. Stewart is the first person to take the field and apply it to juvenile forensics. The promise of the field was on display as she served as an expert witness for the defense team during the trial of Nikolas Cruz. For those in the criminal defense community, this under utilized forensic science could prove to be one of the most important pieces of evidence against guilt or during mitigation. Guests: Dr. Shameka Stewart, Juvenile Forensic Speech Language Pathologist Resources: Contact Dr. Stewart https://www.juvforensicslp.com/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-stewart-032b5a96 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/drjuvenile_forensicslp/ Twitter https://twitter.com/drsstanford1 Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by former NACDL President, Martin Sabelli. This time, Hunte and Martin are discussing a memo he put out while President about the Ahmaud Arbery murder trial. In that trial, Martin felt that the defense counsel improperly used racism as a tactic in their defense. Martin put out the memo because he felt that those in the criminal defense community, those who fight against systems of racism aught not use the tools of the very system that actively incarcerates so many of their clients. As such, today’s episode is all about figuring out where the line is between individual advocacy and fighting systems of oppression. Guests: Martín Sabelli, Former President, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers Resources: Link to the Memo https://www.lawyerlegion.com/associations/criminal-defense/national-nacdl/news/1162/nation-39-s-criminal-defense-bar-opposes-dehumanizing-racist-language-used-in-the-trial-of-the-killing-of-ahmaud-arbery Follow Martin on Twitter https://twitter.com/martin_sabelli?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Last summer, Hunter spoke with Central Florida criminal defense attorney Andrew Darling to discuss Governor DeSantis removing State Attorney Monique Worrell from office. At the time, Andrew and Hunter expressed their concerns that the primary reason for the removal was due to Worrell’s willingness to prosecute cops. Today, Andrew is back to share how those fears have come to reality. In 2020, Andrew’s client was shot by a cop. Originally, Worrell pursued the case, but with her gone, it took the new State Attorney just under 9 months to drop the case, but for a reason that you have to hear to believe. Guests: Andrew Darling, Criminal Defense Attorney, Central Florida Resources: Gov DeSantis’ Executive Order Removing State Attorney Monique Worrell https://www.flgov.com/2023/08/09/governor-ron-desantis-suspends-state-attorney-monique-worrell-for-neglect-of-duty-and-incompetence/ Twitter Thread Explaining the Falsities in Gov DeSantis’ Claims https://twitter.com/LutherEvers/status/1689672379776073728 Warren v. DeSantis https://casetext.com/case/warren-v-desantis-1 Follow Andrew on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MrDarling4 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrdarling4/ Darling Law: https://darlinglaw.com/ Orange County Court of Clerks 2023CF003924-A-O https://www.myorangeclerk.com/ Indictment of Orange County Deputy Bruce Stolk https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/04/01/orange-county-deputy-indicted-nearly-2-years-after-shooting-man-during-chase/ https://www.wftv.com/news/local/my-client-is-one-suffering-attorney-says-after-charges-dropped-against-deputy-who-shot-client/XLZ2AE55MVEKHKEWGZDG3PBQKE/ https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2024/03/12/state-attorney-drops-indictment-of-orange-county-deputy-for-2020-shooting-of-unarmed-man/ Prosecution Memo https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CV_0RjsmVlqpdEvaZd8gNIJR8i0fhrVJ?usp=sharing Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Imagine for a moment, you have been accused of several crimes. At trial, you are found not guilty on all the charges except for one. Let’s say that this is least serious of all your charges. While you wish you had been acquitted on all charges, 5/6 is pretty good. You anticipate a minor sentence, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel….but then you get to sentencing, and the judge starts saying your sentence is going to be just as severe as it would have if you had been found guilty of everything. How is it possible to get found not guilty but punished anyway? Today, Hunter spoke with criminal defense attorney Andrea Jaeger to discuss how the federal legal system allows for acquitted conduct sentencing. Guests: Andrea Jaeger, Criminal Defense Attorney, Iowa Resources: U.S. v Watts https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-watts Coverage https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB11037 https://www.ussc.gov/about/news/press-releases/december-14-2023 https://reason.com/2023/12/20/sentencing-commission-again-proposes-restricting-judges-use-of-acquitted-conduct/ https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-durbin-introduce-bipartisan-bicameral-legislation-to-prohibit-punishment-of-acquitted-conduct Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter concludes the three-part series on criminalized domestic violence survivors by speaking with two women who survived, endured years of incarceration, and utilized the DVSJA to get a second chance at life. Trinity Copeland was sentenced to 25 years to life for 2nd degree murder and resentenced to time served and released in March 2023 under the Domestic Violence Survivors Justice Act (DVSJA), after serving approximately 11 years. She is currently a full-time college student majoring in Chinese Studies with a double minor in Spanish and French. Assia Serrano was sentenced to 18 years to life for felony murder and was resentenced and released in April 2021 under the DVSJA, after serving 17 years. Shortly after, she was deported to Panama where she currently resides. Assia is a member of the Survivors Justice Project Advisory Group and an Osborne Speakers Bureau member who uses her personal experiences to advocate for criminal justice reform. She is a proud mother of two teenagers and a fierce advocate for her own and other children who have experienced parental incarceration. Through their stories, Hunter hopes for people to understand what our legal system must change to stop perpetuating cycles of harm. Guests: Assia Serano, Survivors Justice Project Advisory Group and Osborne Speakers Bureau Trinity Copeland, Full Time College Student Resources: NYILS Website https://www.ils.ny.gov/ Survivors Justice Project https://www.sjpny.org/ Background Material on the DVSJA · Video: Background on DVSJA passage (somewhat dated) · Some Legislative History (attached): o 2017 sponsor memo o Opposition letter by District Attorney Association of the State of New York o NY Correctional Association response to DA opposition letter · SJP DVSJA Resource Guide – we wrote this with incarcerated survivors/applicants as the primary audience · SJP/Sentencing Project Report · Abby Van Buren article on temporal nexus problem · Favorable decisions: o Brenda WW decision (“mutually abusive” relationship did not foreclose DVSJA relief; abuse history must be considered cumulatively; considered applicant’s extensive criminal history in context of her substance abuse, which was related to victimization) o Patrice Smith decision (court must look at the “full picture” and contemplate cumulative impact of abuse) o Liz L. decision (the fact that DV history was “factored in” to previous man 1 plea bargain did not make DVSJA resentencing inappropriate) · Not so favorable: o People v. Williams (abuse or abusive relationship must be “ongoing” at the time of the offense) o People v. Fisher (adopting Williams’ temporal holding in case where trans-identifying young person had assaulted her parents, and no expert was called to attempt to explain connection between earlier physical abuse and offense) o People v. B.N. (many bad holdings/antiquated approach to DV and trauma) · People v. Addimando – a study in contrasts (note that Nicole Addimando was finally released from prison last week): o Trial court decision (denying DVSJA relief at initial sentencing for murder 2 in a case with extensively documented abuse; sentencing Nicole Addimando to 19-to-life) o Appellate decision (reversing and resentencing her to 7.5 years) · Critique of the DVSJA by Survived & Punished Some very optional reading, but good-to-know-about resources created by the DVSJA Statewide Defender Task Force: · Best Practices Manual for DVSJA Investigations · Guide to Working with Experts in DVSJA cases · Introduction Guide to Coercive Control for the DVSJA Attorney Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter continues the three-part series on criminalized domestic violence survivors by speaking with Elizabeth Isaacs, an appellate attorney with New York’s Office of Indigent Legal Services. Specifically, the two discuss the Domestic Violence Survivor’s Justice Act, a New York law designed to give post-relief to those whose incarceration is related to their victimization. While certainly not a perfect bill, it is an extremely important and necessary step to understand that people are not simply victims or perpetrators, and that we can attain justice while also acknowledging the humanity of those who did wrong. Guests: Elizabeth Isaacs, Appellate Attorney, NY Office of Indigent Legal Services Resources: NYILS Website https://www.ils.ny.gov/ Survivors Justice Project https://www.sjpny.org/ Background Material on the DVSJA · Video: Background on DVSJA passage (somewhat dated) · Some Legislative History (attached): o 2017 sponsor memo o Opposition letter by District Attorney Association of the State of New York o NY Correctional Association response to DA opposition letter · SJP DVSJA Resource Guide – we wrote this with incarcerated survivors/applicants as the primary audience · SJP/Sentencing Project Report · Abby Van Buren article on temporal nexus problem · Favorable decisions: o Brenda WW decision (“mutually abusive” relationship did not foreclose DVSJA relief; abuse history must be considered cumulatively; considered applicant’s extensive criminal history in context of her substance abuse, which was related to victimization) o Patrice Smith decision (court must look at the “full picture” and contemplate cumulative impact of abuse) o Liz L. decision (the fact that DV history was “factored in” to previous man 1 plea bargain did not make DVSJA resentencing inappropriate) · Not so favorable: o People v. Williams (abuse or abusive relationship must be “ongoing” at the time of the offense) o People v. Fisher (adopting Williams’ temporal holding in case where trans-identifying young person had assaulted her parents, and no expert was called to attempt to explain connection between earlier physical abuse and offense) o People v. B.N. (many bad holdings/antiquated approach to DV and trauma) · People v. Addimando – a study in contrasts (note that Nicole Addimando was finally released from prison last week): o Trial court decision (denying DVSJA relief at initial sentencing for murder 2 in a case with extensively documented abuse; sentencing Nicole Addimando to 19-to-life) o Appellate decision (reversing and resentencing her to 7.5 years) · Critique of the DVSJA by Survived & Punished Some very optional reading, but good-to-know-about resources created by the DVSJA Statewide Defender Task Force: · Best Practices Manual for DVSJA Investigations · Guide to Working with Experts in DVSJA cases · Introduction Guide to Coercive Control for the DVSJA Attorney Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter starts on part one of a three-part series on criminalized survivors of domestic violence. Kicking off this miniseries is Professor Leigh Goodmark. A former Public Defender herself, Leigh brings multiple decades of experience working with and writing about criminalized domestic violence survivors. On today’s episode, Hunter and Leigh primarily discuss her journey to abolition, decriminalization, and the stories/data that made her conclude that the carceral system is not the appropriate response for domestic violence. Guests: Leigh Goodmark, Professor of Law and Director of Gender Prison and Trauma Clinic, University of Maryland School of Law. Resources: Get a Copy of Imperfect Victims https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520391123/imperfect-victims Get a Copy of Decriminalizing domestic Violence https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520295575/decriminalizing-domestic-violence Contact Leigh https://www.law.umaryland.edu/faculty--research/directory/profile/index.php?id=982 Compelled to Crime https://www.amazon.com/Compelled-Crime-Gender-Entrapment-Battered/dp/0415911451 Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by Sophia Gurulé (immigration Public Defender at the Bronx Defender) and Pooja Patel (staff attorney at CAMBA Legal Services) to continue our discussion on ALAA's resolution calling for a ceasefire in Gaza. In particular, today's episode offers us even more insight into how the resolution came about, the steps taken by those who opposed it to shut it down, and why ALAA members felt it was so vital to pass the resolution. Guests: Sophia Gurulé, Staff Attorney and ALAA Member, Bronx Defenders Pooja Patel, Staff Attorney and ALAA Member, CAMBA legal services Resources: ALAA 2325 Resolution Calling for a Ceasefire in Gaza, an End to the Israeli Occupation of Palestine, and Support for Workers’ Political Speech https://www.alaa.org/media-releases/resolution-calling-for-a-ceasefire-in-gaza-an-end-to-the-israeli-occupation-of-palestine-and-support-for-workers-political-speech Bronx Defenders Union Statement https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Hzyy_ufSJ9h8GjiYdg4eRKdGIUyikRE/view A Statement by Jewish Members of the Association of Legal Aid Attorneys-UAW Local 2325 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MJDXr9nANDCtcV76fxYNwNsxNbru3MYu5hLkCC3KrLY/edit CAMBA Resolution https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NbgNQwjGLLPfNHFhvEYo3huPtHZ_p_Hs/view?fbclid=PAAaapoIPzKZmlESbMs3F3QHC-WivbHVvvdHt0dy8BpHBpFTn10XMg8p_RHkQ_aem_AULLM27V2SE-0BxR7iYPlelGVOXkK5aaL0b0KdZ-UR6dnDbm8GghwmPLJoJkp7m6I54 New York Legal Aid Society Response https://legalaidnyc.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Statement-on-Resolution-from-ALAA-UAW-Local-2325.pdf Bronx Defenders Response https://www.bronxdefenders.org/the-bronx-defenders-response-to-its-unions-october-20-statement/ News Coverage of the Resolution https://theintercept.com/2023/11/17/public-defender-gaza-legal-aid-bronx-defenders/ https://www.huffpost.com/entry/association-legal-aid-attorneys-public-defenders-palestinian-israel-resolution_n_655d2541e4b0c91d8278efcd https://freespeechproject.georgetown.edu/tracker-entries/legal-aid-lawyers-approve-pro-palestinian-resolution-after-federal-judge-dissolves-state-court-order-preventing-vote/ https://nypost.com/2023/12/19/metro/legal-aid-union-approves-pro-hamas-antisemitic-resolution-calling-for-boycott-of-apartheid-jewish-state-critics-say/ https://www.nysun.com/article/congress-to-probe-legal-union-over-anti-israel-resolution-opposed-by-nearly-a-third-of-its-members https://nypost.com/2023/11/16/metro/legal-aid-society-denounces-unions-antisemitic-resolution/ https://inthesetimes.com/article/palestine-resolution-unions-court-blocked https://www.thefp.com/p/alaa-legal-aid-attorneys-antisemitism-congress https://edworkforce.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=410256 https://www.nyclu.org/en/press-releases/congressional-subpoena-over-pro-palestinian-speech-violates-free-speech-alleges ALAA 2325 History of Anti War Votes and...

Today, Hunter is joined by Michael Letwin, former President of ALAA 2325 and longtime Public Defender at the New York Legal Aid Society. Today’s episode is part one of the two-part coverage of the ALAA 2325 Ceasefire in Gaza resolution. To understand the resolution fully requires us to fully understand the patterns, practices, and history of ALAA 2325 when it comes to speaking about international events. With this context in mind, hopefully those asking why ALAA 2325 would choose to issue a ceasefire resolution can understand how that is directly in line with their organizational ethics. Finally, Hunter makes his pitch for why Public Defender organizations should be speaking out about international affairs. Guests: Michael Letwin, Former President ALAA 2325 and long time Public Defender Resources: ALAA 2325 Resolution Calling for a Ceasefire in Gaza, an End to the Israeli Occupation of Palestine, and Support for Workers’ Political Speech https://www.alaa.org/media-releases/resolution-calling-for-a-ceasefire-in-gaza-an-end-to-the-israeli-occupation-of-palestine-and-support-for-workers-political-speech Bronx Defenders Union Statement https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Hzyy_ufSJ9h8GjiYdg4eRKdGIUyikRE/view A Statement by Jewish Members of the Association of Legal Aid Attorneys-UAW Local 2325 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MJDXr9nANDCtcV76fxYNwNsxNbru3MYu5hLkCC3KrLY/edit New York Legal Aid Society Response https://legalaidnyc.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Statement-on-Resolution-from-ALAA-UAW-Local-2325.pdf Bronx Defenders Response https://www.bronxdefenders.org/the-bronx-defenders-response-to-its-unions-october-20-statement/ News Coverage of the Resolution https://theintercept.com/2023/11/17/public-defender-gaza-legal-aid-bronx-defenders/ https://www.huffpost.com/entry/association-legal-aid-attorneys-public-defenders-palestinian-israel-resolution_n_655d2541e4b0c91d8278efcd https://freespeechproject.georgetown.edu/tracker-entries/legal-aid-lawyers-approve-pro-palestinian-resolution-after-federal-judge-dissolves-state-court-order-preventing-vote/ https://nypost.com/2023/12/19/metro/legal-aid-union-approves-pro-hamas-antisemitic-resolution-calling-for-boycott-of-apartheid-jewish-state-critics-say/ https://www.nysun.com/article/congress-to-probe-legal-union-over-anti-israel-resolution-opposed-by-nearly-a-third-of-its-members https://nypost.com/2023/11/16/metro/legal-aid-society-denounces-unions-antisemitic-resolution/ https://inthesetimes.com/article/palestine-resolution-unions-court-blocked https://www.thefp.com/p/alaa-legal-aid-attorneys-antisemitism-congress https://edworkforce.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=410256 https://www.nyclu.org/en/press-releases/congressional-subpoena-over-pro-palestinian-speech-violates-free-speech-alleges ALAA 2325 History of Anti War Votes and...

Today is a re-release of my conversation with Jenny Andrews. It comes as a right before two episodes covering the ceasefire resolution put out by the UAW ALAA 2325 union that represents Public Defenders and Legal Aid Workers at the New York Legal Aid Society, the Bronx Defenders, Camba Legal Services, and much more. Jenny Andrews is the Director of Training for California’s Indigent Defense Improvement Division. She’s here today to teach you what public defense is truly like from the defender’s side. Public defenders are often trapped between a rock and a hard place because they want to provide equal representation access, yet are expected to work too many hours for not enough pay. Because of this, “martyr complex” is prevalent in this field. You’ll learn that public defense is an area of service, but that this often comes at the expense of the defender’s mental health. Jenny will walk you through how she’s helping implement self-care practices into nationwide and why self-care is vital to providing zealous representation! Throughout this episode, remember that ultimately, it is the client who suffers when the public defender suffers in silence Key Topics and Takeaways: Jenny’s background and how she got started in public defense. [7:50] Why Jenny burnt out and left the industry. [14:18] Moral injury. [21:58] Self-care in public defense. [26:32] Secondary trauma. [33:36] How Jenny has been building a culture of self-care. [42:50] How individual offices are promoting self-care. [48:28] The line between service and self-care. [53:14] Guest: Jenny Andrews, Director of Training, Indigent Defense Improvement Division, Office of the State Public Defender, California Resources: Be Sustained https://besustained.org/ Body Keeps the Score https://www.amazon.com/Body-Keeps-Score-Healing-Trauma/dp/0143127748 Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by the newest Chief Public Defender of the State of New Jersey, Jennifer Sellitti. Drawing on her background in public relations, Jennifer has exciting plans for the future of Public Defense in the state. As the new leader, Jennifer hopes she will be able to capitalize on a legislature and governor that appear eager to continue reimagining what a criminal legal system can and should look like. Guests: Jennifer Sellitti, The Public Defender, New Jersey Office of the Public Defender Resources: Follow Jennifer on Twitter https://twitter.com/j_sellitti?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor N.J.’s 1,200 public defenders have a new leader. You’ll be hearing from her, she promises. https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/02/njs-1200-public-defenders-have-a-new-leader-youll-be-hearing-from-her-she-promises.html New Jersey Office of the Public Defender https://www.nj.gov/defender/ https://twitter.com/opd_nj?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor https://www.facebook.com/njopd/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by an amazing former Public Defender from the Wren Collective to discuss their report about youth representation in Cuyahoga County Ohio. Nikki Baszynski joins Hunter today to talk about, perhaps for the first time on the shoe, a Public Defender office that feels they don’t have enough cases! Unlike most of the major metropolitan areas in Ohio, juvenile public defense is largely provided by contract counsel and not the Public Defender office. Unfortunately, this is happening despite evidence that the Public Defender office is consistently getting better outcomes for their clients and doing so at a cheaper cost to the county. Guests: Nikki Baszyinski, Principal and Former Public Defender, The Wren Collective Resources: Wren Collective Report on Cuyahoga County https://www.wrencollective.org/_files/ugd/8fe8f0_1079cdb763ae4fd4b86cffa5a5f3631e.pdf Reporting from Signal https://signalcleveland.org/every-child-accused-of-a-crime-has-a-right-to-an-attorney-is-cuyahoga-county-providing-the-best-possible-representation/ https://signalcleveland.org/how-cuyahoga-county-picks-attorneys-to-represent-children-accused-of-crimes/ Follow the Wren Collective on Twitter https://twitter.com/wrencollective Ohio Public Defender Commission https://opd.ohio.gov/ Listen to the Comitte Meeting Here! https://opd.ohio.gov/about-opd/commission/commission-meetings Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter sat down once again with the former Chief Public Defender of Colorado, Doug Wilson. This time, Doug and Hunter discuss the Aurora Theater Shooting case. Just like the episode about the Parkland shooting, today’s episode is designed to help people understand how such a heinous crime could end in a life over death sentence. In examining these cases, hopefully people can understand the power of mitigating evidence and a well- funded criminal defense team can have on a criminal case. Guests: Doug Wilson, Former Chief Public Defender of the State of Colorado Resources: THE “EVIL” DEFENDANT AND THE “HOLDOUT” JUROR: UNPACKING THE MYTHS OF THE AURORA THEATER SHOOTING CASE AS WE PONDER THE FUTURE OF CAPITAL PUNISHMENT IN COLORADO https://www.coloradodefenders.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Nelson-FINAL-1.pdf Aurora theater shooting trial: DA George Brauchler scolded over tweet https://sentinelcolorado.com/metro/theater-shooting-trial-da-brauchler-scolded-tweet/ A Record 9,000 People Were Called For Jury Duty In The Aurora Theater Shooting Trial https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-record-9000-people-were-called-for-jury-duty-in-the-aurora-theater-shooting-trial/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

While working as with the DC Public Defender Services, today’s guest realized there was a critical lack of attorneys assisting youth after they had been sentenced. Today, Hunter spoke with Penelope Spain, CEO and Co-Founder of Open City Advocates, to discuss how her organization hopes to keep kids from falling through the cracks simply because they do not have an attorney post-conviction. Guests: Penelope Spain, CEO and Co-Founder, Open City Advocates Resources: Open City Advocates on Website https://www.opencityadvocates.org/ Twitter https://twitter.com/opencityadv?lang=en Facebook https://www.facebook.com/opencityadvocates/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN