Unholy: Two Jews on the News

As tensions rise between Israel’s prime minister and his intelligence chiefs over the scandal known as Qatargate, a former head of the Shin Bet breaks his silence on Benjamin Netanyahu and his government. Meanwhile, the UN levels a grave accusation against Israel, sparking outrage and debate. And since it’s Purim, who better to turn to than one of the sharpest comedic voices of his generation? Alex Edelman stops by to talk about Jewish humour, identity, and the fine art of making people laugh (even in the darkest times). Join our Patreon community (promo code for Purim weekend: PURIM25) to get access to bonus episodes (like Saturday Night Live), live zoom calls with Yonit and Jonathan, and more: https://www.patreon.com/unholypod Watch this episode on Youtube: https://youtu.be/GfuwjGHoC8U Follow us on social media: https://linktr.ee/unholypod Alex Edelman is an award-winning stand-up comedian and writer known for his razor-sharp wit and incisive storytelling. His hit solo show, Just for Us, a deeply personal yet wildly funny take on modern Jewish identity and anti-Semitism, earned critical acclaim on Broadway and in London’s West End. A regular on late-night television and a favourite on the stand-up circuit, Edelman has cemented his place as one of the most exciting comedians of his generation. Catch Alex on stage (for tickets, visit https://www.alexedelmancomedy.com): Sunday March 30, 2025 / Providence, RI Wednesday April 9, 2025 / Austin, TX Thursday April 17, 2025 / Pittsburgh, PA Friday April 18, 2025 / Columbus, OH Friday May 2, 2025 / Ridgefield, CT Saturday June 14, 2025 / Westhampton, NY Monday June 16, 2025 / La Jolla, CA Thursday June 19, 2025 / Seattle, WA Friday June 20, 2025 / Vancouver, BC Saturday June 21, 2025 / Portland, OR Thursday June 26, 2025 / Chicago, IL Friday June 27, 2025 / Madison, WI Saturday June 28, 2025 / St. Paul, MN

This week – New Yorker editor David Remnick partners up with Yonit as guest co-host. As Trump reshapes the global order—strengthening ties with Putin, unsettling NATO, and proposing a radical reimagining of Gaza—Hamas expert Michael Milstein joins us to break down the latest developments in the region. Meanwhile, the Israeli government officially launches the plan to oust the attorney general , we talk about The New Yorker's centenary, Jeff Bezos’ influence on The Washington Post, and the Oscar-winning documentary ״No Other Land״ sparks debate. Join our Patreon community to get access to bonus episodes (like Saturday Night Live), live zoom calls with Yonit and Jonathan, and more: https://www.patreon.com/unholypod Watch this episode on Youtube: https://youtu.be/aBB-yKk32Ps Follow us on social media: https://linktr.ee/unholypod ---- David Remnick is an award-winning journalist, author, and the editor of The New Yorker since 1998. Michael Milstein is a leading expert on Hamas and Palestinian affairs, with extensive experience in Israel’s security and intelligence sectors. A former senior analyst in the Israeli military’s intelligence division, he specializes in Palestinian society, politics, and regional dynamics.

As Israel mourns the return of four hostage bodies, pressure mounts ahead of negotiations for the next stage of the deal. Meanwhile, Donald Trump lays out his vision for Gaza in a bizarre, AI-generated video. At the same time, new IDF investigations into October 7th reveal years of misreading Hamas, leaving southern Israel dangerously exposed. Yonit and Jonathan speak with Ahmed Fouad Al-Khatib, an expert on Hamas, to understand what Gazans really want—and how perceptions on the ground differ vastly from those imagined in Tel Aviv or New York. Plus: a literary Chutzpah and a stardust Mensch. Join our Patreon community to get access to bonus episodes (like Saturday Night Live), live zoom calls with Yonit and Jonathan, and more: https://www.patreon.com/unholypod Follow us on social media: https://linktr.ee/unholypod

One of Israel’s darkest days since October 7th, as four hostages return home in coffins—two of them children. Yonit and Jonathan reflect on the profound impact of this moment on the nation and what it means for the fragile negotiations over a second stage of the hostage deal. Meanwhile, as Germany heads to the polls this Sunday, the far-right AfD party is on the rise. With the help of Israeli-German social scientist Meron Mendel, we examine what this surge means for Germany, for Europe, and for Jewish communities watching with unease. Join our Patreon community to get access to bonus episodes, live zoom calls with Yonit and Jonathan, and more: https://www.patreon.com/unholypod Watch us on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Afb3CKunIt4 Follow us on social media: https://linktr.ee/unholypod

As Israelis wait for noon on Saturday, and the promised release by Hamas of three more living hostages, Yonit and Jonathan talk through a nerve-wracking few days in which the deal teetered on the brink of collapse. They discuss a turbulent week and the ever-complicated Trump-Netanyahu relationship as the fate of Gaza hangs in the balance. Meanwhile, scandal as a close adviser to Netanyahu is reported to have been acting as a paid consultant for the Qatari government—while on the payroll at the Prime Minister’s office. Plus: a Chutzpah award that brooks no competition and a Mensch that’s truly man and woman’s best friend. Our first Zoom session for Family Members is happening on February 23rd! Join our Patreon community as a Friend of the Pod, Family Member, or just get access to specific bonus episodes (like When Harry met Sally): https://www.patreon.com/unholypod Get an exclusive TGIF Unholy Tote Bag: https://bit.ly/4gxErC5 You can find our social links here: https://linktr.ee/unholypod

As Israel waits for three more hostages to be released from Gaza, Donald Trump calls for the takeover and emptying out of the Strip—provoking both outrage and debate. This week, Yonit and Jonathan talk about that and much else with a towering figure of American politics: former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, who served as ambassador to Japan until last month, joins Unholy. Plus: our Chutzpah award goes to a TV host who’s already had the honour once before, while our Mensch of the week takes us straight back to the ’90s. Join our Patreon community as a Friend of the Pod, Family Member, or just get access to specific bonus episodes (like When Harry met Sally): https://www.patreon.com/unholypod Get an exclusive TGIF Unholy Tote Bag: https://bit.ly/4gxErC5 You can find our social links here: https://linktr.ee/unholypod

As Keith Siegel, 65, returns home after 484 days in Hamas captivity in Gaza—having been abducted from his home on October 7th—Yonit speaks with his wife, Aviva, who was also held hostage and released after 51 days. The episode includes depictions of abuse and violence. ---- You can find our social links here: https://linktr.ee/unholypod Join our Patreon community as a Friend of the Pod, Family Member, or just get access to specific bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/unholypod

This week, Yonit is joined by CNN anchor and global affairs analyst Bianna Golodryga, as scenes of joy and relief unfold with the return of seven more hostages. With another three set to be released on Saturday, they discuss the week’s key developments and speak with Dr. Einat Yehene, Head of the Rehabilitation Division at the Hostages Families Forum. Together, they examine the short and long-term effects of captivity on the released hostages—and on an entire nation. Join our Patreon community as a Friend of the Pod, Family Member, or just get access to specific bonus episodes (like When Harry met Sally): https://www.patreon.com/unholypod Get an exclusive TGIF Unholy Tote Bag: https://bit.ly/4gxErC5 You can find our social links here: https://linktr.ee/unholypod

An American president is sworn in, an IDF chief of staff quits and Israel waits for a second group of hostages to be freed. Yonit and Jonathan take a deep dive into a dramatic week – and have no trouble at all in identifying what Elon Musk was doing with his arm. Join our Patreon community as a Friend of the Pod, Family Member, or just get access to specific bonus episodes (like When Harry met Sally): https://www.patreon.com/unholypod Get an exclusive TGIF Unholy Tote Bag: https://bit.ly/4gxErC5 You can find our social links here: https://linktr.ee/unholypod

As the Gaza ceasefire and hostage release deal unfolds, bringing home three women held by Hamas for 471 days, Yonit and Jonathan talk about the profound joy felt in Israel at seeing their return, and the politics - and trepidation - that surround the next moves. Join our Patreon community as a Friend of the Pod, Family Member, or just get access to specific bonus episodes: https://patreon.com/Unholypod Get an exclusive TGIF Unholy Tote Bag: https://bit.ly/4gxErC5 You can find our social links here: https://linktr.ee/unholypod

After 15 long and terrible months, a deal is agreed that should bring the hostages home and end the fighting in Gaza. How did it come about, who and what made it possible and how will it play out - Yonit and Jonathan get into it all, and explore the background and the implications of a breakthrough moment with military analyst Amos Harel. Plus: those who emerge from this extraordinary week with great credit, and those guilty of outrageous chutzpah. Join our Patreon community as a Friend of the Pod, Family Member, or just get access to specific bonus episodes: https://patreon.com/Unholypod Get an exclusive TGIF Unholy Tote Bag: https://bit.ly/4gxErC5 You can find our social links here: https://linktr.ee/unholypod

In an in-depth interview, Yonit and Jonathan talk to Gen David Petraeus, the former Director of the CIA and onetime head of US Central Command about both his admiration for Israel's military successes against Iran and Hizbollah - and his concerns about its war in Gaza. Plus: the wait for a hostage deal goes on and on, the region braces for the second coming of Donald Trump - and a very specific reason why you need to see When Harry Met Sally. Join our Patreon community as a Friend of the Pod, Family Member, or just get access to specific bonus episodes! This month we have Q&A (14.1) and When Harry Met Sally special (28.1). https://www.patreon/unholypod Get an exclusive TGIF Unohly Tote Bag: https://bit.ly/4gxErC5 You can find our social links here: https://linktr.ee/unholypod

The resignation of former defense minister Yoav gallant and the death of an American president -- Yonit and Jonathan discuss the fallout of Yoav Gallant's exit from the Knesset and the passing of Jimmy Carter, who stayed engaged with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict for more than five decades. Plus: they speak with Suzanne Maloney, one of the world's foremost analysts of Iran and the Middle East on what 2025 might hold. They also salute a veteran of Jewish journalism, while a chutzpah award is on its way to the English seaside. Join our Patreon community and more from Unholy! Get an exclusive Unholy Tote Bag Follow us on social media

As the hostages held by Gaza spend their second Chanukah as captives of Hamas, Israel’s attorney general delivers a political bombshell — opening an investigation into Sara Netanyahu following revelations of her role in the attacks by Israel’s first family against its enemies. Yonit and Jonathan discuss all that and mark the start of Chanukah by looking for some light in the gloom, seeking out some reasons to be hopeful for 2025. Join our Patreon community - a special Christmas bonus episode is now available! Find us on social media (Facebook, Instagram, Bluesky, Linkedin, YouTube, X)

Increased speculation on a hostage/ceasefire deal, a disturbing account of alleged IDF misconduct in Gaza and the fallout of two shocking attacks on synagogues in Montreal and Melbourne. Plus: a conversation that ranges from Damascus to Limerick and all points in between with historian Simon Sebag Montefiore. Finally Yonit and Jonathan salute a French heroine - and decry the Syrian prisoner who never was. Join our Patreon community - a special Christmas bonus episode coming up this Tuesday! Find us on social media (Facebook, Instagram, Bluesky, Linkedin, YouTube, X)

Yonit and Jonathan take stock of a momentous week in the Middle East, breaking down the fall of the Assad regime with US foreign policy veteran Richard Haass - and taking a deep dive into the court appearance of Benjamin Netanyahu with Alexis Bloom, director of The Bibi Files, an acclaimed documentary which lifts the lid on the corruption charges facing the prime minister. Plus - a sporting flavour to both of this week’s chutzpah and mensch awards. Join our Patreon community - The first bonus episode drops this Tuesday for our premium members! Find us on social media (Facebook, Instagram, Bluesky, Linkedin, YouTube, X) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As a veteran of Israel's security establishment, a former defence minister with roots on the Israeli right, says Israel is engaged in "ethnic cleansing" in Gaza, there's renewed talk of a deal to secure a hostage release and ceasefire before Donald Trump takes office in January. Yonit and Jonathan discuss all that - and they speak with Yael Alexander, whose son Edan is still held captive and was this week shown alive in a video released by Hamas. There's a bulging list of chutzpah nominees, stretching from Rumania to New Jersey, and big news about Unholy itself - with a chance for listeners to join the Unholy family. Subscribe to our new Patreon community Social media links (Instagram, X, Bluesky, Youtube and Facebook) available here Our membership tiers: $8/month (Friend of the Pod): Get 2 bonus episodes a month, early access to event tickets, discounts on merch, and access to a members-only chat room. $25/month (Family Member): Enjoy everything in the Friend tier, plus a live Zoom call with us once a quarter and a limited-edition tote bag at no extra cost. Special Holiday Promotion: Sign up for the Family Member tier now and get 80% off your first month! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As a ceasefire with Hizbollah brings an anxious quiet to the north of Israel, Yonit speaks with the US diplomat who brokered the deal, Amos Hochstein. Plus, a conversation with the man who ordered an Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon a quarter century ago: former prime minister Ehud Barak. In a wide-ranging discussion, Barak shares with Yonit and Jonathan his views on how to end the war in Gaza, the ICC arrest warrants - and why Israel may have to learn to live with a nuclear Iran. Plus: a Latin American mensch and a serial winner bags the chutzpah award -- You can watch this episode on our YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/SKqZ6Ms2xBM Subscribe to our Substack: https://unholypodcast.substack.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unholypodcast/ X: https://x.com/2jewsonthenews Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/unholypod.bsky.social Join our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1150578065793142 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for Israel’s current Prime Minister and a former Defence Minister, adding yet another layer of complexity to an already fraught geopolitical landscape. Meanwhile, speculation grows about a potential ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah, aimed at bringing a fragile quiet to the north. Yonit and Jonathan are also joined by two widely admired journalists: Thomas L. Friedman of The New York Times, who says the second Trump presidency could spell either opportunity or disaster for Israel, and Ilana Dayan of Israel's Channel 12, who gives an exclusive, English-language reading of a landmark speech she delivered last week at the Weizmann Institute to huge acclaim. Plus: this week’s mensch award nominee is brave - and the chutzpah award is fruity. -- You can watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/POZkVIhTwHM Subscribe to our Substack: https://unholypodcast.substack.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unholypodcast/ X: https://x.com/2jewsonthenews Join our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1150578065793142 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As Donald Trump appoints key figures for his incoming administration, Yonit and Jonathan speak with Alyssa Farah Griffin about the likely impact of his choices on Israel and the Middle East. Military affairs analyst Amos Harel joins to update us on the latest situation in Gaza. Plus: a look at the rising anti-Israel riots in Amsterdam. And for those who insisted – yes, there’s a follow-up on Radiohead and their connection to Israel. You can watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/4PxvsoPWGjI Subscribe to our Substack: https://unholypodcast.substack.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unholypodcast/ X: https://x.com/2jewsonthenews Join our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1150578065793142 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.