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Business & Economics Podcasts

Follow our journey as we build and launch two startups. Hosted by Matt Wensing, founder of Summit, and Peter Suhm, founder of Reform.

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United States

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Follow our journey as we build and launch two startups. Hosted by Matt Wensing, founder of Summit, and Peter Suhm, founder of Reform.

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English


Episodes
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2023 Async — Finale

12/30/2023
Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. MattPeterSummitReform

Duration:00:44:07

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2023 Async — Consolidation (9 of 9)

12/18/2023
Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. MattPeterSummitReform

Duration:00:27:37

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2023 Async — Progress (8 of 9)

12/18/2023
Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. MattPeterSummitReform

Duration:00:35:39

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2023 Async — A local high (7 of 9)

12/18/2023
Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. MattPeterSummitReform

Duration:00:45:32

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2023 Async — Reset (6 of 9)

12/18/2023
Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. MattPeterSummitReform

Duration:00:38:51

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2023 Async — It's working (5 of 9)

12/18/2023
Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. MattPeterSummitReform

Duration:00:17:58

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2023 Async — Closing deals (4 of 9)

12/18/2023
Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. MattPeterSummitReform

Duration:00:31:48

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2023 Async — Experimentation (3 of 9)

12/18/2023
Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. MattPeterSummitReform

Duration:00:44:30

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2023 Async — Suspense (2 of 9)

12/18/2023
Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. MattPeterSummitReform

Duration:00:19:10

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2023 Async — Big goals (1 of 9)

12/18/2023
Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. MattPeterSummitReform

Duration:00:51:56

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2023 Async — Intro

12/18/2023
Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. MattPeterSummitReform

Duration:00:11:50

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Updates + the future of the podcast

1/18/2023
In this episode, Matt and Peter share an update on Summit and Reform with the listeners. They also share what the future plans are for the podcast. Is this the last episode?

Duration:00:46:13

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Why we’re taking a break

12/1/2022
Matt feels the effects of going truly viral on Twitter and now half the internet thinks he is a Twitter 10x engineer (and half think he is a comedian). Peter’s Tailwind gig comes to a close so he’s thinking about what’s next with Reform. This episode also brings the current Out of Beta season to an end, as Matt and Peter take a short break. They’ll be back. Sponsor - Recast Thank you to this month’s sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you’d like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you. Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet of the Out of Beta Twitter account. Show Notes Sponsor - DebugBear: Monitor site speed and Core Web Vitals DebugBear continuously checks how long it takes to load your website and monitors the Core Web Vitals metrics that Google uses as a ranking factor. Test your website for free to get an in-depth analysis with recommendations to make your website faster. Links Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummitReform

Duration:00:49:57

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Working in Bets

11/17/2022
Peter finds he has 4 million test rows in his database and needs to do something about them without breaking everything, while he still tries to nail down how to position Reform. Who exactly is Reform for and how does he communicate that? Matt is bringing a series of bets to a close and making some important changes, such as a move away from usage-based pricing. Sponsor - Recast Thank you to this month’s sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you’d like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you. Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet of the Out of Beta Twitter account. Show Notes Sponsor - DebugBear: Monitor site speed and Core Web Vitals DebugBear continuously checks how long it takes to load your website and monitors the Core Web Vitals metrics that Google uses as a ranking factor. Test your website for free to get an in-depth analysis with recommendations to make your website faster. Links Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummitReformDaniel Zarick’s “Working In Bets” article

Duration:00:42:11

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Why you need a board

11/10/2022
Peter reflects on the new integration with Less Annoying CRM, how a potential new Reform website would look like and his plans to double down on SEO. Matt is also seeing how SEO is having a positive effect on his rankings for Summit, while he figures out some more use cases for the calculators. Matt rounds off talking about his potentially controversial opinion on why startups of all sizes should have boards. Sponsor - Recast Thank you to this month’s sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you’d like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you. Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet of the Out of Beta Twitter account. Show Notes Sponsor - DebugBear: Monitor site speed and Core Web Vitals DebugBear continuously checks how long it takes to load your website and monitors the Core Web Vitals metrics that Google uses as a ranking factor. Test your website for free to get an in-depth analysis with recommendations to make your website faster. Links Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummitReform

Duration:00:45:33

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Ups and Downs

11/2/2022
Peter has been away in the States, and quite liked his co-founder Bjorn taking care of support. Matt, meanwhile, has not been feeling much of a spark this week but brainstormed some new ideas for distribution. Sponsor - Recast Thank you to this month’s sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you’d like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you. Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet on the Out of Beta Twitter account. Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummitReformEmbarque

Duration:00:43:16

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Niches on the horizon

10/20/2022
Matt’s Summit Chrome extension is live, meaning you can now get a calculator in just a click, and so he’s exploring new calculators to use with it. Peter is still sick but is working through it by getting deep into customer research, figuring out the best customers for Reform. Both Matt and Peter have horizontal products, so they discuss how this both helps and hinders them Sponsor Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch. Links Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummitReformMatt’s Chrome extension

Duration:00:40:57

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Those vexing questions

10/13/2022
After a brief break, Matt and Peter are back with the maker manager format. Matt’s been building more calculators for Summit while kicking up the gears for sales and marketing. Peter’s founder hiking retreat was a success and he is now instrategic thinking mode. What’s next for Reform? Sponsor Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta. Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch. Links Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummitReformCaleb's Notes On Work where he talks about Peter's headless videoBob Moesta's Circuit Breaker podcast

Duration:00:50:55

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Distribution

9/28/2022
This week, Peter is sick, but shows up to record the pod and talk Reform integrations, including one upcoming with Less Annoying CRM. Not being at 100% highlights why having a good cofounder can make a big difference. Matt is in the final stages of getting his Summit Chrome extension live, so is figuring out how he gets distribution for the app, which will include a Summit Free Calculator marketplace. Sponsor Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta. Listen to the Eduflow story here: Part 1Part 2Part 3Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch. Links Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummitReformThe Unbundling of Zapier articleStartup to Last episode

Duration:00:45:24

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Keep Pushing

9/15/2022
This week, Matt is working like a mad scientist to build a Chrome extension that will essentially eliminate onboarding for new Summit calculator users. Peter is running on low sleep, which is causing a bit of a creative bottleneck for Reform. He wants to keep the momentum after Reform's recent marketing wins and is sponsoring three newsletters in one week. Sponsor Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta. Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch. Links Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummitReform

Duration:00:48:15