The RAG Podcast - Recruitment Agency Growth Podcast
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We’re having real and raw conversations with successful recruitment entrepreneurs about what is happening in their businesses right now and their plans to navigate market changes.
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United States
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We’re having real and raw conversations with successful recruitment entrepreneurs about what is happening in their businesses right now and their plans to navigate market changes.
Language:
English
Website:
https://hoxomedia.com/resources/
Episodes
Season 7 | Ep38 - The 5 traits that all successful Recruitment Owners possess with Hishem Azzouz
5/2/2024
This week’s episode is a collaboration between RAG Podcast and Recruitment Mentors Podcast!
Hishem and I host two of the most well-known, highly-regarded podcasts in our sector.
We started them at roughly the same time, and we even used to record them in the same Hoxo HQ studio!
After sitting down together at the recent recruitment expo, we realised that we’ve released well over 500 recruitment episodes and interviewed/met 1000+ over this period
We thought it would be interesting to come together to discuss the five traits that we see in the most successful recruitment founders.
You'll find that Hishem and I do agree on most areas, but we have slightly different views in certain areas too.
Hope you enjoy this special episode and do take notes!!
00:00 Introduction
09:03 Chapter 1: Creating a Business that Works for You
16:11 Chapter 2: The Power of Niche and Brand
33:30 Chapter 4: Building a Sales Culture
44:30 Getting Out of Your Own Way
56:44 Prioritising Personal Health and Well-being
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Episode sponsor: Untapped
Safe to say, last year was tricky for the recruitment sector globally. Many have had to operate through uncertain times, making tough calls and streamlining where possible.
However, accessing lower-cost resources internationally has proven to be the 2023 cheat code for business performance. But anyone who has tried it knows it’s not easy to get right. That’s where Untapped comes in.
Untapped is one of the hottest companies in the market right now, helping agencies in the UK, US, Middle East and Australia transition to the new world, leverage elite remote individuals and even build whole offshore sourcing and recruiting teams.
They source from the most exciting talent pools on the planet for recruitment staff and embed elite talent into your company to improve diversity, productivity and the cost of your teams. Your UK team will also love the help with some of the repetitive, time-consuming work that lands on their desk, improving their job satisfaction.
They put around 3000 candidates per month through an intense 4-stage interview and online testing process to find the top 1% and secure these people roles in UK agencies doing research, marketing, finance, sourcing, end-to-end recruiting, coordination and account management.
All candidates are benchmarked against UK competency frameworks and are tested for the highest level of communication and language skills.
It’s a simple process: You pay a deposit to kick off the search, they provide a candidates shortlist in 14 days. You can also put people through your own process and then hire perm or on a freelance basis, depending on your needs. They are totally transparent with salaries. Typically, your global talent will earn 30% more than their local benchmark, giving you high levels of motivation and work ethic, but you’ll still pay 70% less than a UK equivalent support. It’s a no-brainer to complement existing teams to handle surplus demand or to ease cost pressures.
If you’re not using this time to rip up your business model and rebuild it with global resources, you are going to fall behind those that do. Due to demand and capacity restraints, they are operating a waiting list at the moment, so be quick to get in touch: www.tryuntapped.com
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Episode Sponsor: Hoxo
Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?
As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on...
Duration:01:07:02
Season 7 | Ep37 Lysha Holmes on building a 100% inbound Rec2Rec business since the pandemic!
4/24/2024
I'm excited to be joined again by Lysha Holmes. Lysha is the founder of Qui Recruitment, a specialist Rec2Rec based in Manchester.
Someone I've worked with since the pandemic who's now built a 100% inbound business.
She went from being an amazing recruiter with incredible integrity who would only represent the best recruiters in the Northwest to carrying on that and building an online brand that is seen by thousands of people every single day!
She now sources all candidates via 100% inbound enquiries on LinkedIn and traditional offline inbound business referrals.
She explains why:
In this episode, we unpack how she's done it.
We also look at the reality of the Rec2Rec space right now.
We talk about the lot. So, take notes.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the RAG podcast and guest Lysha Holmes
07:24 Adopting a Consistent and Authentic Approach
13:28 The Importance of Trust and Consistency in Branding
27:14 Sponsor Message: Vincere's Time Temp Solution
41:18 Building Foundational Skills in Recruitment and Balancing Short-Term and Long-Term Goals
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Hoxo Message
Ready to find 25+ warm leads within seven days on LinkedIn?
As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.
This method is super time-consuming, and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.
But it can be different...
If you follow the process in this document you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.
A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.
Over 5000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily and the results have been amazing!
You can have this too!
Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY
If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (The creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!
Get access to:
This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp which has seen over 5000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!
Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.
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Episode Sponsor: Vincere
Vincere’s portals are a quick-win solution for agencies in need of a no-code candidate and client portal. It’s your one-way ticket to attracting top-tier candidates and clients with everything they need in one place.
Easily set up your candidate, client, and job portal straight within your Vincere account and
configure it to your own brand and theme so it feels like you.
You can publish jobs from Vincere’s Job Portal and...
Duration:00:55:30
Season 7 | Ep36 - Scott Brown - from unfulfilled lawyer to world-leading ‘community first’ recruitment agency for in-house lawyers
4/17/2024
On this week’s show, I'm joined by Scott Brown, the founder of Heriot Brown, a UK-based in-house legal recruitment specialist agency.
Scott started his recruitment business almost by accident.
He made the switch to recruitment because he felt unfulfilled as a lawyer and wanted to have more control over his career.
He wanted to gain sales experience.
Less than two years later, he launched his own recruitment firm.
Scott admits that his lack of experience before launching his business had both positive and negative results.
Eight years later, they’ve:
And Scott hasn’t even scratched the surface.
This is a must-listen if you’re interested in finding out how Scott got to where he is today, what community-led actually means, and what’s next for this exciting business!
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the RAG podcast and Scott Brown
09:41 Scott's journey from lawyer to recruitment entrepreneur
31:00 Starting Heriot Brown: challenges and successes
37:13 Untapped: Transitioning to remote recruitment solutions
38:40 Leveraging global resources
53:20 Building a personal brand
45:26 Investing in a structured approach
01:05:28 Innovation in the recruitment industry
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Episode sponsor: Untapped
Safe to say, last year was tricky for the recruitment sector globally. Many have had to operate through uncertain times, making tough calls and streamlining where possible.
However, accessing lower-cost resources internationally has proven to be the 2023 cheat code for business performance. But anyone who has tried it knows it’s not easy to get right. That’s where Untapped comes in.
Untapped is one of the hottest companies in the market right now, helping agencies in the UK, US, Middle East and Australia transition to the new world, leverage elite remote individuals and even build whole offshore sourcing and recruiting teams.
They source from the most exciting talent pools on the planet for recruitment staff and embed elite talent into your company to improve diversity, productivity and the cost of your teams. Your UK team will also love the help with some of the repetitive, time-consuming work that lands on their desk, improving their job satisfaction.
They put around 3000 candidates per month through an intense 4-stage interview and online testing process to find the top 1% and secure these people roles in UK agencies doing research, marketing, finance, sourcing, end-to-end recruiting, coordination and account management.
All candidates are benchmarked against UK competency frameworks and are tested for the highest level of communication and language skills.
It’s a simple process: You pay a deposit to kick off the search, they provide a candidates shortlist in 14 days. You can also put people through your own process and then hire perm or on a freelance basis, depending on your needs. They are totally transparent with salaries. Typically, your global talent will earn 30% more than their local benchmark, giving you high levels of motivation and work ethic, but you’ll still pay 70% less than a UK equivalent support. It’s a no-brainer to complement existing teams to handle surplus demand or to ease cost pressures.
If you’re not using this time to rip up your business model and rebuild it with global resources, you are going to fall behind those that do. Due to demand and capacity restraints, they are operating a waiting list at the moment, so...
Duration:01:15:08
Season 7 | Ep35 Paul Smith on completing the MBO to buy out his original partners and take full ownership of his recruitment agency!
4/10/2024
I'm joined by an old client of mine, Paul Smith. Paul is the Managing Director of Deploy Recruitment, a specialist infrastructure and technology recruitment business heavily invested in the rail sector.
Paul started the recruitment side of this business just over 10 years ago.
In this episode, he tells me about the last year and how he completed the MBO to buy out the original Partners and fully own the company.
Today, so many recruitment founders partner with other people — whether business partners, back office providers, solutions providers, or investors.
And I see so many get to a point when, a little bit down the line, it doesn't feel like the right fit anymore.
Paul is open about why he decided to buy out his partners, the risks (personal and professional) he faced, and how he ultimately got it done. He also shares the emotional side of the process and how he’s felt since taking ownership.
A super honest guy who does not mince his words. That's what I love about Paul.
For anyone who's thinking about selling to their employees as an MBO, completing an MBO in the future, or buying out a business partner, you've got to listen to this episode.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the RAG podcast
00:29 Overview of Deploy Recruitment
01:27 Paul's decision to buy out the company
03:23 Paul's experience with laser eye treatment
04:21 Overview of Deploy Recruitment's services
05:20 Expansion into other industries and territories
06:17 Challenges and opportunities in the industry
07:15 The importance of infrastructure maintenance
08:12 Issues with technology and connectivity
09:08 Benefits and challenges of electric vehicles
10:34 Introduction to Paul Smith and Deploy Recruitment
11:04 Paul's background and decision to join Deploy Recruitment
12:19 Joining a non-recruitment company and leveraging their resources
13:44 The growth of Deploy Recruitment
14:41 Finding clients by observing train stations
18:12 The challenges of cash flow in the industry
20:08 Expanding into different sectors and offering additional services
22:14 The importance of process and procedure in the rail industry
23:13 Servicing internal projects and external clients
24:09 The 24/7 nature of the business
26:06 Managing on-call responsibilities
27:44 Understanding turnover, gross profit, and net fee income
28:14 Offering flexible payment options to clients
30:09 Expanding services and finding new ways to work with clients
31:55 Using data to provide real-time insights to clients
35:11 Taking over the business
36:12 Timing and circumstance
37:07 Impact of COVID-19
38:41 Opportunity to buy the business
39:05 Transition and management buyout
42:02 Executing the buyout
44:14 Personal risk and commitment
46:00 Challenges and considerations
49:30 Being a leader
50:26 Vision for the future
57:26 Hiring good people
58:11 Streamlining operations
01:00:03 Importance of content on LinkedIn
01:02:51 Continuous learning and growth
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Hoxo Message
Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?
As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.
This method is super time-consuming and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.
But it can be different...
If you follow the process in this document you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want...
Duration:01:06:07
Season 7 | Ep34 - Mirtes Lobaito on her journey from cleaning houses to successful recruitment agency owner!
4/3/2024
I'm super excited to be joined by Mirtes Lobaito, the CEO and founder of AGM Tech Solutions, a recruitment firm headquartered in New Jersey in the US.
Mirtes shares her inspirational journey from Brazil to the US, where she started her business with no English language skills and worked her way up from cleaning homes to tech sales.
She eventually entered the recruitment industry and decided to start her own company.
Despite facing challenges and self-doubt, Mirtes grew AGM Tech Solutions into a successful IT staffing firm, achieving over $100 million in revenue in just five years.
And she's done all of this whilst raising three children too :)
Mirtes’s energy is incredible – her story inspired me, and I’m sure you will be too!
Takeaways
If you are looking for a story to get you off the ground and start or inspiration to drive your recruitment business even further, this is the one for you.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the RAG podcast
00:57 Overview of AGM Tech Solutions
06:18 Mirtes' decision to stay in the US
08:54 Mirtes' transition into tech sales
10:46 Mirtes' success as a salesperson
13:02 Mirtes' entry into the recruitment industry
20:45 Setting up AGM Tech Solutions
23:57 Building the team and growing the business
29:35 AGM Tech Solutions' growth and recognition
33:21 Building a business in a post-COVID way
34:19 The rationale behind dotted locations
36:31 Engaging with candidates and clients post-COVID
38:01 Winning business by becoming an extension of the customer
39:02 Opening the door with new business
40:09 The role of the CEO
47:19 The vision for the future
53:26 Balancing work and life
01:00:00 Tips for starting a recruitment agency
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Episode sponsor: Untapped
Safe to say, last year was tricky for the recruitment sector globally. Many have had to operate through uncertain times, making tough calls and streamlining where possible.
However, accessing lower-cost resources internationally has proven to be the 2023 cheat code for business performance. But anyone who has tried it knows it’s not easy to get right. That’s where Untapped comes in.
Untapped is one of the hottest companies in the market right now, helping agencies in the UK, US, Middle East and Australia transition to the new world, leverage elite remote individuals and even build whole offshore sourcing and recruiting teams.
They source from the most exciting talent pools on the planet for recruitment staff and embed elite talent into your company to improve diversity, productivity and the cost of your teams. Your UK team will also love the help with some of the repetitive, time-consuming work that lands on their desk, improving their job satisfaction.
They put around 3000 candidates per month through an intense 4-stage interview and online testing...
Duration:01:04:20
Season 7 | Ep33 Chris Abbass on growing from £9m to over £30m in NFI in less than 4 years!
3/27/2024
I am so excited to be rejoined by Chriss Abbass, the CEO of Talentful, four years after our first episode together.
For those who don’t know, Talentful is the world's leading embedded talent recruitment solution, working with some of the best tech companies on the planet.
I had Chris in my studio in London back in 2019. At the time, his business was 4 years old and had already grown to 150 people and £9 million in net margin.
Today, another 4 years have passed, and their last company account was over £30 million!
In this episode, Chris and I discussed
Navigating uncertainties and building creative strategies to win more businessThe boom in revenue and growth they experienced in 2021 and 2022
I personally learned so much from this conversation, hearing about the journey of one of the most innovative and cutting-edge recruitment agencies out there. I hope you love it too!
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Hoxo Message
Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?
As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.
This method is super time-consuming and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.
But it can be different...
If you follow the process in this document you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.
A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.
Over 5000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily and the results have been amazing!
You can have this too!
Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY
If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (The creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!
Get access to:
This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp which has seen over 5000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!
Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.
__________________________________________
Episode Sponsor: Vincere
Vincere’s portals are a quick-win solution for agencies in need of a no-code candidate and client portal. It’s your one-way ticket to attracting top-tier candidates and clients with everything they need in one place.
Easily set up your candidate, client, and job portal straight within your...
Duration:01:10:57
Season 7 | Ep32 - Oliver Legg on the move from home security sales manager to global Cybersecurity recruitment leader within 7 years!
3/20/2024
I'm super excited to be joined by Oliver Legg, the co-founder of Aspiron Search, a specialist headhunter in the cybersecurity market operating from the UK but placing people all over the US.
Oliver started his career as a regional sales manager for a home security installation company seven years ago.
Today, alongside Joe his co-founder, they generate over 7 figures a year with a team of five in the cybersecurity market.
A super modern agency with a focus on brand and content (their podcast alone last year made them 320,000 in net fee income)
Takeaways
If you're looking to grow your business or want to launch your own agency and want to hear from someone who didn't start too long ago, but is having an amazing journey, then you've got to listen to this!
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
01:26 Oliver's Journey into Recruitment
06:12 Transition from Sales to Recruitment
09:03 Joining Iceberg and Early Success
14:21 Starting Asperon Search
25:29 Early Success and Growth
28:29 Working with Recruit Hub
31:17 Opening the Crawley Office
34:12 Boom Time and Hiring
35:12 Introduction to Triuntapped
36:12 Process of Working with Triuntapped
37:08 Benefits of Using Triuntapped
37:37 Challenges of Growing a Team in 2022
38:59 Lessons Learned in 2022
40:43 Adapting the Business Model
43:10 The Impact of Change on the Business
44:39 The Importance of Consistency and Adaptation
45:07 Navigating the Challenges of 2023
46:04 The Resilience of the Business
47:29 The Power of LinkedIn and Content Creation
49:24 Investing in the Business
50:51 Starting a Business and Lessons Learned
53:46 The Decision to Move to Bournemouth
56:06 The Impact of the Move on the Team
58:01 Current Way of Working
59:27 Future Hiring Plans
01:02:16 The Benefits of Being Together
01:05:38 Goals for 2024
01:08:41 Closing Remarks
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Episode Sponsor: Untapped
Safe to say, last year was tricky for the recruitment sector globally. Many have had to operate through uncertain times, making tough calls and streamlining where possible.
However, accessing lower-cost resources internationally has proven to be the 2023 cheat code for business performance. But anyone who has tried it knows it’s not easy to get right. That’s where Untapped comes in.
Untapped is one of the hottest companies in the market right now, helping agencies in the UK, US, Middle East and Australia transition to the new world, leverage elite remote individuals and even build whole offshore sourcing and recruiting teams.
They source from the most exciting talent pools on the planet for recruitment staff and embed elite talent into your company to improve diversity, productivity and the cost of your teams. Your UK team will also love the help with some of the repetitive, time-consuming work that lands on their desk, improving their job satisfaction.
They put around 3000 candidates per month through an intense 4-stage interview and online testing...
Duration:01:09:57
Season 7 | Ep31 - Ephram Stephenson on building an agency of 140 people with 500 years of recruitment experience under one roof (all in 2 yrs!)
3/13/2024
In this episode, Ephram Stephenson, CEO and founder of Collar Talent Group, joins me for part 2 of the Collar Talent Group story!
I interviewed Ephram Jan 2023 when his business was just over a year old and he'd already reached a head count of 100.
13 months later, and the business now has 140 people across multiple Australian offices, making them the fastest growing agency in the country.
In this follow-up show, Ephram shares insights on how he has rapidly grown the business, built a strong company culture, and attracted top talent.
Ephram strategically headhunted his leadership team, and together they have a combined experience of over 500 years in recruitment!
Key takeaways
As always, we talk about the things he's got wrong as well as the success. Ephram’s got bags of energy, and he's fun to be around.
So if you're looking to grow your business at scale and with speed, check this one out!
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Hoxo Message
Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?
As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.
This method is super time-consuming and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.
But it can be different...
If you follow the process in this document you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.
A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.
Over 5000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily and the results have been amazing!
You can have this too!
Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY
If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (The creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!
Get access to:
This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp which has seen over 5000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!
Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.
__________________________________________
Episode Sponsor: Vincere
Vincere’s portals are a quick-win solution for agencies in need of a no-code candidate and client portal. It’s your one-way ticket to attracting top-tier candidates and clients with everything they need in one place.
Easily set up your candidate, client, and job portal straight within your Vincere account and
configure it to your own brand and theme so it feels like...
Duration:01:10:16
Season 7 | Ep30 - Alex Woodhead on why recruitment companies that build the best PRODUCT will always win
3/6/2024
This week, I'm super excited to be joined by Alex Woodhead, the founder of a brand new 10-day-old talent and engineering consultancy called Apera.
A business that specialises in recruitment for future mobility, space and clean energy. This is a super niche futuristic market with so much space for growth. And it isn’t Alex’s first time attacking it!
We talk about how Alex started in recruitment: his journey from trainee to Director in his first firm, how he co-founded a company called Strativ, and built one of the fastest-growing recruitment companies on the planet.
Within four years, they had a 100+ headcount and £13 million in NFI.
Find out how they achieved this and why, a year later, he negotiated his exit and started his own business once again.
Alex is one of those founders who has a crazy work ethic, unbelievable self-confidence and belief in what he’s doing.
But what stands out about Alex – and we get into it in this episode – is that his success is not a result of having the best sales skills. It's about having the best product and then building a business around that product.
Takeaways
If you want to grow your recruitment firm or just listen and learn from one of the best leaders in our industry, then you do not want to miss this episode!
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Episode sponsor: Untapped
Safe to say, last year was tricky for the recruitment sector globally. Many have had to operate through uncertain times, making tough calls and streamlining where possible.
However, accessing lower-cost resources internationally has proven to be the 2023 cheat code for business performance. But anyone who has tried it knows it’s not easy to get right. That’s where Untapped comes in.
Untapped is one of the hottest companies in the market right now, helping agencies in the UK, US, Middle East and Australia transition to the new world, leverage elite remote individuals and even build whole offshore sourcing and recruiting teams.
They source from the most exciting talent pools on the planet for recruitment staff and embed elite talent into your company to improve diversity, productivity and the cost of your teams. Your UK team will also love the help with some of the repetitive, time-consuming work that lands on their desk, improving their job satisfaction.
They put around 3000 candidates per month through an intense 4-stage interview and online testing process to find the top 1% and secure these people roles in UK agencies doing research, marketing, finance, sourcing, end-to-end recruiting, coordination and account management.
All candidates are benchmarked against UK competency frameworks and are tested for the highest level of communication and language skills.
It’s a simple process: You pay a deposit to kick off the search, they provide a candidates shortlist in 14...
Duration:01:33:06
Season 7 | Ep29 - Oscar Orellana-Hyder on his journey from a sceptic of LinkedIn personal branding to doubling his billings and building a successful recruitment agency in the UAE.
2/28/2024
On this week's show, Oscar Orellana-Hyder, the Founder of Cordell Partners, shares his journey from being a sceptic of personal branding on LinkedIn to building a successful recruitment agency in the UAE.
I’ve worked with Oscar since 2021. He was a Hoxo client whilst working for Robert Walters.
He went from someone who thought that using LinkedIn was complete nonsense and was billing £350k per year using only traditional methods, to doubling this within 12 months!
All through 100% inbound business, generated via his LinkedIn personal brand.
In late 2023, he decided that he finally had the skills and the confidence to launch his own agency. And his personal brand is still generating business all over the region.
If you're really interested in finding out how a personal brand on LinkedIn can actually pay dividends in terms of revenue, you've got to listen to this episode.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to The RAG Podcast and Cordell Partners
01:28 Oscar's transformation and launching Cordell Partners
02:52 The name and vision of Cordell Partners
03:49 The importance of family in the UAE
05:41 The influence of family ethics in business
07:34 The niche market of investment recruitment
09:59 Transitioning from corporate recruitment to niche market
11:24 The decision to move to Dubai
13:20 The impact of personal branding on revenue
16:14 Joining Robert Walters and focusing on Abu Dhabi
19:57 The impact of The RAG Podcast and LinkedIn
26:14 The catalyst for starting Cordell Partners
38:11 Setting up Cordell Partners and the vision for the future
45:15 Building businesses from nothing
45:42 Growing the team
46:41 Finding self-sufficient people
47:11 Value of being part of a community
48:08 Future plans and retirement
49:35 Expanding to other regions
50:05 Identity and accents in the region
51:01 Embracing change and transient nature
51:28 Infrastructure challenges
52:25 Living in a transient place
53:19 Future business goals
54:16 Importance of commitment to the region
55:37 Exploring other countries in the region
56:04 Openness to answering questions and helping others
56:56 Sponsor message: Hoxo
__________________________________________
Hoxo Message
Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?
As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.
This method is super time-consuming and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.
But it can be different...
If you follow the process in this document you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.
A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do
Duration:00:58:11
Season 7 | Ep28 - Jonathan Berry on how building his LinkedIn brand has attracted lawyers from across the Middle East and converted into serious revenue!
2/21/2024
On this week's show, I'm joined by Jonathan Berry, the director of the Middle East region for Robert Walters Group.
I’ve known him for five years and have been working with him for four years.
Jonathan was the first staff member at Robert Walters to join my bootcamp. And I'm now working with over 700 recruiters across the Group.
Jonathan came to Dubai after working for Robert Walters in Sydney, and is now running the business in the region.
In this episode, he shares his journey from being a lawyer to transitioning into recruitment and building a successful recruitment desk in Dubai. Jonathan discusses the challenges and opportunities of working in the Middle East market and the impact of COVID-19 on recruitment.
We also reflect on his leadership role and the importance of personal branding in his success so far. Jonathan explains how LinkedIn has translated into revenue and emphasises the need for a long-term strategy rather than a short-term focus.
Takeaways
A great guy with a refreshing approach to recruitment – take notes, as this is super valuable!
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Episode Sponsor: Untapped
Safe to say, last year was tricky for the recruitment sector globally. Many have had to operate through uncertain times, making tough calls and streamlining where possible.
However, accessing lower-cost resources internationally has proven to be the 2023 cheat code for business performance. But anyone who has tried it knows it’s not easy to get right. That’s where Untapped comes in.
Untapped is one of the hottest companies in the market right now, helping agencies in the UK, US, Middle East and Australia transition to the new world, leverage elite remote individuals and even build whole offshore sourcing and recruiting teams.
They source from the most exciting talent pools on the planet for recruitment staff and embed elite talent into your company to improve diversity, productivity and the cost of your teams. Your UK team will also love the help with some of the repetitive, time-consuming work that lands on their desk, improving their job satisfaction.
They put around 3000 candidates per month through an intense 4-stage interview and online testing process to find the top 1% and secure these people roles in UK agencies doing research,...
Duration:00:58:02
Season 7 | Ep27 - Calvin Lee-Picket on building a revenue-generating candidate community!
2/14/2024
On this week's show, I'm delighted to be joined by Calvin Lee-Pickett, the CEO and founder of Calvin James Recruitment.
Calvin came from the UK to Dubai as an employee of Robert Half Recruitment, a global organisation. A few years later, he decided to start his own business.
Without any experience as a business owner, he has grown organically over the last five years. And in this past year, things have REALLY changed for Calvin and his team!
In this episode, Calvin discusses how he pivoted his business model to monetise the growing candidate base he’d built and the challenges he faced in setting up a business in Dubai. We also talk about the impact of COVID-19 on the business and the importance of building a solid personal brand.
Calvin is a really great guy who’s building something special. You don’t want to miss this one!
Takeaways
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*RAG Sponsor message* Hoxo
Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?
As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.
This method is super time-consuming and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.
But it can be different...
If you follow the process in this document, you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.
A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.
Over 5000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily, and the results have been amazing!
You can have this too!
Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY
If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO, Sean Anderson (the creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!
Get access to:
This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp, which has seen over 5000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!
Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.
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*RAG Sponsor message*: Vincere
Vincere’s portals are a quick-win solution for agencies in need of a no-code candidate and client portal. It’s your one-way ticket to attracting top-tier candidates and clients with everything they need in one place.
Easily set up your candidate, client, and job portal straight within your Vincere account and
configure it to your own brand and theme so it feels like you.
You can publish jobs from Vincere’s Job Portal and sync them directly to your website in
Duration:00:58:42
Season 7 | Ep26 - Abdul-Rahman Risilia on building a modern recruitment agency with a core permanent team and a range of global freelancers!
2/7/2024
Episode 2 of my LIVE series in the UAE and I'm joined by Abdul Rahman Risilia, CEO and founder of ARC Talent.
Abdul is someone I actually worked with when I started my recruitment career in Melbourne in 2011, but I didn’t realise this until the show because, back then, he worked under a completely different name!
In this episode, Abdul shares his journey from door-to-door sales to building a successful recruitment business in Dubai, growing through the various challenges along the way, and his unique business model and approach to hiring.
We talk about
You don’t wanna miss this!
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Episode Sponsor: Untapped
Safe to say, last year was tricky for the recruitment sector globally. Many have had to operate through uncertain times, making tough calls and streamlining where possible.
However, accessing lower-cost resources internationally has proven to be the 2023 cheat code for business performance. But anyone who has tried it knows it’s not easy to get right. That’s where Untapped comes in.
Untapped is one of the hottest companies in the market right now, helping agencies in the UK, US, Middle East and Australia transition to the new world, leverage elite remote individuals and even build whole offshore sourcing and recruiting teams.
They source from the most exciting talent pools on the planet for recruitment staff and embed elite talent into your company to improve diversity, productivity and the cost of your teams. Your UK team will also love the help with some of the repetitive, time-consuming work that lands on their desk, improving their job satisfaction.
They put around 3000 candidates per month through an intense 4-stage interview and online testing process to find the top 1% and secure these people roles in UK agencies doing research, marketing, finance, sourcing, end-to-end recruiting, coordination and account management.
All candidates are benchmarked against UK competency frameworks and are tested for the highest level of communication and language skills.
It’s a simple process: You pay a deposit to kick off the search, they provide a candidates shortlist in 14 days. You can also put people through your own process and then hire perm or on a freelance basis, depending on your needs. They are totally transparent with salaries. Typically, your global talent will earn 30% more than their local benchmark, giving you high levels of motivation and work ethic, but you’ll still pay 70% less than a UK equivalent support. It’s a no-brainer to complement existing teams to handle surplus demand or to ease cost pressures.
If you’re not using this time to rip up your business model and rebuild it with global resources, you are going to fall...
Duration:01:29:54
Season 7 | Ep25 - Sean Anderson: what I have learned from almost 300 episodes of The RAG Podcast!
1/31/2024
The first of our 5 x episodes recorded Live in the UAE kicks off with ME as the guest!
So Chris Redmond, who's been on our show three times since 2019, approached me about interviewing me and telling both the Hoxo story and my learnings from almost 300 episodes of the RAG on my recent trip to Dubai!
In this episode, I opened up a lot!
We discuss
Thanks to Chris for taking the time to host this episode; it was so much fun to be on the other side of the mic!
I hope you find this valuable!
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the RAG Podcast
05:11 The story of Hoxo Media
06:11 Hoxo's services: branding and personal branding
13:22 The impact of personal branding
20:02 The RAG Podcast: purpose and impact
24:25 Lessons from successful recruitment owners
30:05 Interviewing style and emotional moments
37:20 Hoxo's future plans
42:07 Scientist or artist: Sean's approach
43:31 Overcoming challenges and taking action
46:20 The power of energy and inspiration
47:15 Appreciation and friendship
47:44 Closing remarks and sponsorship
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*RAG Sponsor message* Hoxo
Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?
As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.
This method is super time-consuming and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.
But it can be different...
If you follow the process in this document you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.
A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.
Over 5000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily and the results have been amazing!
You can have this too!
Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY
If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (The creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!
Get access to:
This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp which has seen over 5000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!
Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.
__________________________________________
*RAG Sponsor message*: Vincere
Vincere’s portals are a quick-win solution for agencies in need of a no-code candidate and client portal. It’s your one-way ticket to attracting top-tier candidates and clients with everything they need in one place.
Easily set up your candidate, client, and job portal straight within your Vincere account and
configure it to your own brand and theme so it...
Duration:00:49:07
Season 7 | Ep24 - Richard Morton on why it’s never too late to start your own agency!
1/24/2024
In this episode of the RAG podcast, Sean Anderson interviews Richard Morton, the founder of MatchMedics. Richard shares his journey of launching a recruitment company in his 50s and emphasises that it's never too late to pursue your dreams. He discusses the challenges he faced in the early years and the turning point after reading the book 'Traction'.
Richard explains how MatchMedics narrowed its focus to specialise in recruiting doctors and the subsequent growth in team size and revenue. He also highlights the expansion into the local market and other specialities, such as general practice.
Sean and Richard discuss the impact of LinkedIn on his recruitment business and the potential it holds for finding high-level candidates. He shares how Hoxo's Personal Branding Bootcamp has helped his team develop a unified language and methodology for using the platform effectively.
The conversation also explores the impact of content generation and the importance of becoming a recognisable brand online. They discuss the future vision of the business, opportunities for growth, and the importance of building a strong team and environment. This is a must-listen for anyone wanting to hear first-hand about the journey of building a rec business from the ground up, and what it takes to start driving success!
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the RAG podcast
00:56 Richard Morton's background and launching MatchMedics
04:16 Richard's start in recruitment in 1989
08:24 Transitioning from being an employee to an entrepreneur
12:15 Starting MatchMedics and the early challenges
19:14 The turning point after reading the book 'Traction'
25:17 Narrowing the focus to specialise in recruiting doctors
27:40 Expansion into the local market and other specialities
28:39 Growth in team size and revenue
38:22 Managing the resourcer-recruiter model
44:26 Expansion into the general practice market
45:21 Richard's role in the company
46:20 The challenges of transitioning from doing the work to managing
46:50 The benefits of participating in the Hoxo Personal Brand Academy
47:16 Discovering the potential of LinkedIn
48:13 The impact of LinkedIn on business
49:07 Creating a unified language and methodology
50:03 The Impact of Hoxo on content generation
50:33 Generating placeable candidates
52:29 Educating the competition
52:58 The vision and future of the business
53:24 Building a strong team and environment
56:13 The journey and potential growth
57:09 Seizing opportunities and driving success
58:04 Understanding rotations in the healthcare sector
59:16...
Duration:01:10:16
Season 7 | Ep23 - Jamie Reynolds on the changes required to deliver multiple 7 figures of profit as former CEO of Cordant Group
1/17/2024
In this week’s episode, I’m joined by Jamie Reynolds, a man who’s held some impressive titles in his career but most notably was the Former CEO of PMP Recruitment, a part of the Cordant Group, COO of Halian, and most recently, CEO of The Recruitment Co.
In this in-depth episode, he shares his journey from a 17-year-old trainee to his moves toward CEO.
During his time at Cordant, he delivered multiple millions in profit through a company wide business transformation programme.
Jamie is passionate about empowering people to think differently, and it’s inspiring to hear how he uses this mindset to deliver financial results!
It’s not always smooth sailing, and it’s refreshing to hear someone speak so realistically about mental health and wellbeing. Jamie and I discussed the lessons he learned during the acquisition and merger of Halian and Staff Group, including the need for empathy and respect when making tough decisions like redundancies.
One of the good guys in the recruitment sector, take notes- there is lots to learn!
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:20 Jamie’sackground and expertise
06:04 Transition from service sector to recruitment sector
07:20 Jamie's journey to CEO level
10:38 Joining the Cordant Group
12:59 Transformation within the Cordant Group
19:04 Implementing transformational projects
25:11 Managing multiple projects
32:15 Turning around the business
36:32 Transition to Group CEO
40:56 Transformation during the pandemic
43:46 Dealing with redundancies
49:55 Role evolution and disposals
52:06 Acquisition and merger of Halian and Staff Group
53:31 Lessons learned from exits and transformations
55:50 Success of PMP Recruitment
56:42 Driving results
57:08 Ability to work with both large and small businesses
58:58 Offering growth, transformation, and coaching/mentoring
01:00:37 Jamie's life and approach to work
01:02:31 Importance of mental health and well-being
01:04:06 Closing remarks and contact information
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Hoxo Message
Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?
As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.
This method is super time-consuming and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.
But it can be different...
If you follow the process in this document you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.
A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.
Over 5000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily and the results have been amazing!
You can have this too!
Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY
If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (The creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training
Duration:01:06:05
Season 7 | Ep22 - Laura Clark on her vision for growing OA Group, an agency founded by her mother that she recently purchased!
1/10/2024
In this week's episode, I was joined by Laura Clark, CEO of OA Group, who shares her journey of joining the family business and eventually taking over as CEO.
She discusses the challenges and rewards of working with her mother and the lessons she learned from her entrepreneurial upbringing.
Laura also talks about the growth and operations of OA Group, her early career in recruitment, and the negotiation process of buying out her mother's stake in the business.
This episode highlights the importance of hard work, independence, and the drive to improve in the recruitment industry.
Key takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the RAG podcast
00:58 Laura's journey and joining the family business
03:18 Overview of OA Group
05:15 Laura's early career and working with her mother
08:06 Growing up with an entrepreneurial parent
09:04 Laura's interest in business and entrepreneurship
10:34 Joining Osborne Appointments
16:11 Early days of recruiting and the types of jobs
19:19 Balancing work and motherhood
25:45 Progressing in her career and becoming a manager
29:25 Realising her entrepreneurial ambitions
31:19 Negotiating the deal to take over the business
37:48 Taking ownership of the business
43:34 Working with family and post-acquisition vision
45:01 Creating a meaningful and sustainable business
46:20 Balancing growth and fairness
46:50 Key principles for a viable business
47:48 Embracing change and being open-minded
49:18 Seeking outside opinions and ideas
50:14 Creating a safe environment for feedback and innovation
53:02 The importance of in-person interaction in recruitment
58:12 Gender equality and avoiding self-limitations
01:02:48 Juggling work and family life
01:07:45 The importance of prioritising and being agile
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Episode Sponsor: Untapped
Safe to say, last year was tricky for the recruitment sector globally. Many have had to operate through uncertain times, making tough calls and streamlining where possible.
However, accessing lower-cost resources internationally has proven to be the 2023 cheat code for business performance. But anyone who has tried it knows it’s not easy to get right. That’s where Untapped comes in.
Untapped is one of the hottest companies in the market right now, helping agencies in the UK, US, Middle East and Australia transition to the new world, leverage elite remote individuals and even build whole...
Duration:01:10:21
Season 7 | Ep21 - Josh Huggins on driving a trade sale exit with a 5-year earn-out process before starting his own agency!
1/3/2024
On this week's show, I'm delighted to be joined by Josh Huggins, the founder of GS2, a global sustainability search recruitment firm headquartered in Basingstoke. The business is just over 18 months old, with eight employees.
Josh shares his journey from being a professional footballer to starting his own recruitment business.
After becoming the second-largest shareholder at Principal People he, alongside Simon Bliss, led the process of selling the business.
He had to wait five years and faced many challenges before making the bold decision to leave and start GS2.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the RAG podcast and guest introduction
01:25 Josh Huggins' background and journey to starting GS2
03:20 Overview of GS2 and its divisions
04:39 Target market and clients of GS2
06:02 The changing recruitment landscape and opportunities in a post-COVID world
07:00 Josh's background in football and transition to recruitment
10:46 Joining Principal People and the growth of the business
16:28 Transitioning to a senior role at Principal People
20:44 The process of selling Principal People and the challenges faced
27:51 The decision to start GS2 and the challenges faced
36:48 The attempted buyback of Principal People and the decision to start GS2
40:33 The exit from Principal People and the start of GS2
44:28 Naming and structure of GS2
45:23 Negotiating the exit and setting up GS2
47:39 Starting GS2 and building the team
49:21 Returning to operational billing and setting standards
51:15 Recruiting levels and service offerings
52:08 Investing in personal branding and learning from Hoxo
53:07 Changing the mindset of recruitment and staying connected with clients
55:28 The impact of personal branding on revenue
57:21 Bringing Tom Glanfield on board and internal recruitment
01:00:15 Building GS2 with an exit in mind
01:02:09 The vision for GS2 and future growth
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Hoxo Message
Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?
As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.
This method is super time-consuming and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.
But it can be different...
If you follow the process in this document you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.
A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.
Over 5000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily and the results have been amazing!
You can have this too!
Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY
If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO...
Duration:01:07:26
Season 7 | Ep20 - Owen Myers & Jenna Mackie on doubling revenue YoY whilst working a 4 day week!
12/13/2023
On this week's show I was joined by Owen Myers and Jenna Mackie, the founders of Mackie Myers.
Mackie Myers is a specialist accounting and finance recruitment firm headquartered in London, two and a half years old with 14 employees.
Since launching, the business has doubled revenue year on year and operated in a sustainable way!
They've introduced a 4-day work week after 12 months, which has been hugely successful.
And they are now looking at growing from 14 to 40 - 50 over the next few years.
In this episode, we talk about:
For anyone who's listening, who wants to build a business in the future always right at the start of their journey, this one's gonna resonate because ultimately, these guys are two and a half years in, everything's fresh, everything's real, and they're making it work.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Mackey Myers
02:20 Working together at Michael Page
08:29 Leaving Michael Page and starting a new business
12:38 Navigating the challenges of Covid-19
19:40 Setting up Mackey Myers
27:19 Hiring and scaling the business
34:24 First year of Mackey Myers
42:47 Lessons learned and balancing personal life
45:42 Business planning basics
46:43 Transition to a four-day workweek
48:04 Benefits of a four-day workweek
49:02 Operating model of a four-day workweek
50:53 Managing client expectations
52:20 Communication with clients
54:07 Balancing work and parenthood
55:34 Returning to work after maternity leave
59:21 Challenges and successes of 2022
01:01:09 Profit margins in the recruitment industry
01:02:29 Current state of the business
01:05:06 Future vision for the business
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Episode Sponsor: RecruitHub
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Episode Sponsor: Untapped
Safe to say it’s been a tricky year for the recruitment sector globally. Many have had to operate through uncertain times, making tough calls and streamlining where possible.
However, accessing lower-cost resources internationally has proven to be the 2023 cheat code for business...
Duration:01:10:26
Season 7 | Ep17 - Vincere part 2 - what features are coming in 2023/24?
12/6/2023
On this week's episode I was once again joined by Vincere, specifically their Head of Product, Kristy Gilham. This is a follow-up to the conversation we recorded back in September.
In this episode, we focused exclusively on the product roadmap and the things that they're working on right now to improve for you, the customer. You’ll hear some interesting insights into how they decide on which products to put into action, and which ones to leave off the table.
Despite the negative press post-acquisition, hopefully you're starting to understand that Vinny are still committed to the customer.
They’re also almost exclusively focused on working with small to medium-sized recruitment agencies – which is so important!
So whether you’re a boutique agency looking for a new CRM or a current Vinny customer, enjoy the episode, listen up, and take notes.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the RAG podcast
00:57 Focus on the product roadmap
02:25 Discussion on market conditions and plans
03:23 Updates on product development
06:40 Product roadmap for small to mid-sized market
07:55 Improving UI and UX
09:20 Improvements to velocity and data import tool
10:20 Integration with LinkedIn and data security
13:52 Payroll integration and expanding marketplace
15:42 Revamping the scheduler for smaller agencies
17:06 Improving email functionality and automation
19:22 In-app training and product enablement
21:43 Improving internal communication and knowledge sharing
22:11 Introduction of workspace and AI functionality
23:07 Adopting AI in Vincere
25:03 Focus on improving system speed and security
27:05 Addressing compliance and email functionality
28:54 Marketing automation and marketplace mindset
30:45 Engaging with customers and gathering feedback
32:31 Prioritizing feature requests and engaging with customers
35:23 Openness to customer feedback and engagement
38:40 Closing remarks and contact information
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Hoxo Message
Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?
As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.
This method is super time-consuming and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.
But it can be different...
If you follow the process in this document you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.
A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.
Over 5000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily and the results have been amazing!
You can have this too!
Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY
If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (The creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!
Get access to:
Duration:00:40:18