The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni

What would change if you stopped trying to fix what isn’t broken? In episode 106 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack how shame often forms around working frustrations that were never meant to define a person’s value or capability. They explain how misunderstanding your wiring can lead to burnout, striving, and the belief that something is wrong with you. By reframing frustrations as part of how you were designed, the episode offers relief, freedom, and dignity at work and in life. Topics explored in this episode: (02:01) Relief from Lifelong Guilt and Burnout * How some leaders carry decades of shame around their working frustrations. * Discovering your working frustrations brings freedom. (03:41) Striving Against the Grain * Shame often leads people to work harder at the wrong things for years. * Understanding wiring helps people stop swimming upstream in work and relationships. (05:47) Strengths and Weaknesses Are Linked * Viewing frustrations in isolation leads to shame, while context brings clarity. (09:29) Releasing Guilt and Embracing Design * Embracing your working frustrations without self-criticism. * Freedom comes from knowing you were never meant to be good at everything. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How can pairing geniuses enhance the customer service experience? In episode 105 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody dive deep into the world of customer service roles and enablement. They explore how unique combinations of working geniuses, such as enablement paired with discernment or tenacity, can enhance customer interactions and improve service outcomes. By aligning strengths with job demands, being authentic about one's abilities, and providing tailored solutions to customers, individuals can excel in customer service roles and find satisfaction in their careers. Topics explored in this episode: 00:00:47 – Types of Customer Service * Great customer service depends on the right mix of working geniuses * Enablement shines when helping others feels energizing, not draining 00:04:46 – Discernment and Enablement * Discernment helps decode what customers actually mean * Enablement turns confusion into clear, helpful solutions 00:06:35 – Tenacity and Enablement * Tenacity makes sure no email or question gets left behind * Enablement brings the drive to serve fast, fully, and well 00:11:09 – Types of Employee Geniuses * Different genius types shape how people show up at work * Customer service thrives when roles match natural strengths 00:24:22 – Choosing the Right Job * The wrong role leads to burnout, even if you’re good at it * The right fit makes work sustainable and satisfying This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How can you use the Working Genius framework to reframe your traditional New Year’s resolutions so that they don’t lead to frustration or shame? In episode 104 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson introduce the idea of a “New Year’s evolution” instead of a New Year’s resolution. They explain why resolutions built on shame and weakness tend to fail and how understanding your Working Genius creates a healthier, more effective path to growth. By spending more time in your areas of strength, you can create a more energizing and sustainable year. Topics explored in this episode: (00:10) Why Resolutions Often Fail * Traditional resolutions tend to focus on weaknesses and create shame. * Starting the year by judging yourself usually leads to frustration and burnout. (03:04) The Cost of Ignoring Your Wiring * Trying to improve in areas that conflict with your natural wiring can be miserable. (05:58) Know Yourself First * The first step of a New Year’s evolution is understanding how you’re wired. (06:32) Spend More Time in Your Genius * Increasing time spent in your Working Genius leads to energy and thriving. (10:00) Applying Working Genius at Work and Home * Auditing how you spend your time reveals opportunities for meaningful change. * Using your Working Genius outside of work can strengthen your family life. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

Are Working Genius pairings linked with Ideal Team Player virtues? In episode 103 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why Working Genius types cannot and should not be used to predict the three Ideal Team Player virtues (humble, hungry, and smart). They walk through tempting—but ultimately inaccurate—assumptions people often make when connecting specific geniuses to humility, hunger, or emotional intelligence. By clarifying the proper order of team building—hire for virtues first, then place people according to their geniuses—they’ll help you avoid costly misinterpretations and build healthier teams. Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) The Premise * Why Ideal Team Player virtues must come before Working Genius when building a team. (03:20) Exploring the “Smart” Virtue and EQ * WG cannot predict emotional intelligence (EQ). * How each working genius type can be either high or low EQ. (08:23) Tempting but Incorrect Correlations Between Virtues and Genius Types * The common assumptions that “D” = smart, “E” = humble, and “T” = hungry. (15:55) Virtues → Genius → Behaviors * Why Ideal Team Player, Working Genius, and Five Dysfunctions must be applied in order. More info about Pat’s book, The Ideal Team Player: How to Recognize and Cultivate the Three Essential Virtues: https://www.tablegroup.com/product/ideal-team-player/ More info about Pat’s book, The Five Dysfunctions of a Team: A Leadership Fable: https://www.tablegroup.com/topics-and-resources/teamwork-5-dysfunctions/#5dbook This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

Is there a correlation between a person’s Working Genius (WG) pairings and their emotional intelligence (EQ)? Also, how can you use your Working Genius results to strengthen your emotional intelligence? In episode 102 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore how Working Genius and emotional intelligence intersect, and where they don’t. They explain that while no Working Genius type predicts EQ, the Working Genius model is a powerful tool for developing the self-awareness and social awareness that foster emotional intelligence. Topics explored in this episode: (02:27) Is There a Link Between Genius Types and EQ? * Pat clarifies that Working Genius and EQ are independent, emphasizing that self-awareness (not wiring) drives emotional intelligence. (05:29) Self-Awareness, Rough Edges, and Workplace Behavior * How understanding your working frustrations increases EQ. * How low self-awareness manifests in everyday interactions. (11:14) Social Awareness, Curiosity, and Understanding Others * Why EQ requires not only self-awareness but also a genuine desire to understand others. * Connecting curiosity to humility and vulnerability, noting how Working Genius accelerates relational understanding. (17:35) Building Relational EQ * How to lovingly offer feedback that raises another person’s emotional intelligence. * How self-awareness and understanding others—not your Genius letters—are what transform your effectiveness and relationships. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How might a layoff create space for you to pursue work that energizes you rather than drains you? In episode 101 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why layoffs—while often painful—can become pivotal moments of clarity and reinvention. They also explain how the Working Genius framework provides a roadmap for choosing future roles that offer joy, energy, and long-term career sustainability. Topics explored in this episode: (02:20) What Layoffs Reveal About Misaligned Work * How many people fall into roles based on majors, circumstance, or convenience—not joy and energy. * How Working Genius uncovers transferable strengths that open doors. (04:59) Rethinking Identity and Job Descriptions * How job descriptions often fail to capture the actual genius needed for success. * Employees who thrived after shifting roles, including a lawyer who moved into a technology leadership role using his Genius. (07:50) Why Most People Aren’t Working in Their Genius * How few people truly operate within their strengths. * The value of cultural fit, personal interests, and joy—not just salary—when choosing a new role. (14:54) Life Changes and the Power of a Reset * How life transitions and financial considerations can open unexpected possibilities for better-fit work. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via

What happens when we misunderstand or mistype someone’s Working Genius? Also, what changes when we finally understand the true genius behind someone’s behavior? In episode 100 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why an incorrectly identified Working Genius can create frustration, friction, and confusion among teammates. They also dive into factors that often lead to mistyping, and how understanding true genius unlocks better collaboration and more joy. Topics explored in this episode: (03:00) When the Wrong Genius Causes Friction * How teams can inadvertently push people into the wrong types of work. * Metaphors—like ice cream and lactose intolerance—to illustrate the mismatch. (06:25) The Nuances Behind Misinterpreting Behaviors * Examples of people misinterpreting public speaking as galvanizing. * How different geniuses can look similar on the surface but feel different internally. (09:22) Why Some Geniuses Are Commonly Mistyped * Why Wonder and Enablement are often misunderstood. * How environment and personal bias influence self-typing. (13:39) Consequences of Selling the Wrong Genius * Why advertising a genius you don’t have creates false expectations. * The importance of accurate self-awareness. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via

How does being an Inventor-Discerner shape your leadership style when guiding a team? In episode 99 of the Working Genius Podcast, In this episode, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson welcome master facilitator Claire Laughlin to unpack the unique strengths and quirks of the Inventor-Discerner (ID) pairing. Together, they explore how people with this Working Genius pairing constantly generate, refine, and iterate ideas in real time. Claire Laughlin is a dynamic trainer and coach who helps teams communicate better and lead with purpose. As one of The Table Group’s master facilitators, she teaches the Working Genius model to leaders and organizations worldwide. Topics explored in this episode: (00:30) The Joy of Being an Inventor-Discerner * Claire shares how her brain instantly starts creating when pressure subsides. (05:00) The ID Loop in Action * How invention and discernment happen almost simultaneously. (09:00) How IDs Annoy and Delight Others * How an ID’s confidence and quick thinking can overwhelm teammates. (14:00) Feeding Creativity * How IDs can stay connected to wonder instead of jumping straight to ideas. * How curiosity and real-world problems can ignite your genius. (21:00) Living the Working Genius Every Day * How Claire uses Working Genius to solve team problems. Thanks to Claire Laughlin for being on the show! Learn more about Claire: https://www.clairelaughlin.com Connect with Claire on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairelaughlin/ This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (

How can you genuinely honor someone's working frustrations, beyond just being aware of them? In episode 98 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explore the idea of honoring working frustrations—the tasks that drain energy, even when you’re good at them. Using team member Tracy Noble as a case study, they discuss how competence without joy leads to burnout and how leaders can reorganize work to restore energy and dignity. Topics explored in this episode: (01:00) The Cost of Competence * The danger of confusing skill with joy and how it drains energy over time. (03:20) Understanding What Drains Us * How some people excel at things they dislike, leading to burnout. * Recognizing frustration is an act of respect, not weakness. (06:00) Team Reorganization * How team roles at The Table Group were restructured to align with genius types. (09:00) Redefining Productivity and Human Dignity * How long-term effectiveness outweighs short-term efficiency. * Honoring frustrations is essential to dignity and joy in work. (13:20) Applying Working Genius to Real Roles * Cody shares practical ways to match people’s genius with job requirements. * Pat reflects on his own burnout and how awareness of frustration fosters empathy. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How does your work or home environment shape the way you see your Working Genius? Episode 97 of the Working Genius Podcast explores how environment and culture can dramatically influence how people view their own talents. Patrick Lencioni, Cody Thompson, and Matt Lencioni share personal stories and client examples where individuals misunderstood their results because of the strong pull of their surroundings. They also discuss how, when you take the Working Genius assessment, it's essential to put aside what you think you should be doing and instead focus on what brings you joy and energy. Topics explored in this episode: (0:30) Environment and Perception * How our environment can distort our Working Genius assessment results. * Cody describes how people often answer based on workplace expectations instead of core joy. (5:42) Stories of Misalignment * Examples of people whose results were skewed by strong cultural or organizational environments. * A Marine veteran and a priest are highlighted as cases where structure shaped inaccurate results. (15:30) Wonder as the Overlooked Genius * How Matt misidentified his geniuses because of college leadership roles. * Why “wonder” can be undervalued in structured settings. (20:43) Liberation Through Clarity * The relief and freedom that come from discovering true geniuses. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via

How can understanding your strengths and weaknesses through the Working Genius model lead to true confidence? Confidence isn’t about pretending to be great at everything—it’s about knowing and accepting the truth about yourself. In episode 96 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explain how the Working Genius framework provides a foundation for authentic confidence rooted in both strengths and weaknesses. They share practical insights on how humility, honesty, and self-awareness create confidence that impacts work, relationships, and life. Topics explored in this episode: 0:30 – Defining Confidence * Confidence is not arrogance, but alignment with truth about yourself. * Humility and confidence complement each other by grounding people in reality. 3:40 – The Power of Admitting Weaknesses * Acknowledging what you’re not good at frees you to celebrate your real strengths. 6:20 – Building Confidence Through Working Genius * The Working Genius framework provides language for identifying gifts and frustrations. 10:55 – Humility, Gifting, and Evidence * Confidence is strengthened when you recognize gifts as given, not earned. 15:30 – Confidence for the Next Generation * Helping young people discover their genius accelerates confidence and direction. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via

What creative analogies can you use to help understand your joy and frustration at work? In episode 95 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody revisit one of their earliest metaphors for the Six Types of Working Genius model: the coffee cup analogy. They explore how it explains joy, competency, and frustration in work—and why new analogies like batteries, bikes, and even shoes can add nuance to the conversation. Along the way, they highlight how interest, energy, and preference intersect with genius. Topics explored in this episode: (3:42) Battery Analogies * How genius can feel like charging a phone. * Whether constant genius work is healthy or limiting. (7:30) Bike Riding Analogies * Cody introduces the uphill, flat, and downhill bike comparison. * Pat adds how electric bikes recharge, mirroring the energy of genius. (9:44) Analogies About Shoes and Household Chores * The difference between genius and personal likes/dislikes. (15:06) The Lunch Analogy * How interest or disinterest in particular subjects or meals shape our energy. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How can the Working Genius model prevent decision-making confusion? In episode 94 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat, Cody, and guest Krista Kotrla unpack the concept of “crossing the decision line,” exploring how leaders can move from healthy conflict to clear commitments, avoiding the trap of endless discernment and re-decision. Through practical tools like end-of-meeting discipline, clarity over certainty, and understanding the nuances of galvanizing, they discuss how to drive alignment, commitment, and faster execution. Krista Kotrla is a consultant with The Table Group who helps leaders turn healthy conflict into clear commitments. Topics explored in this episode: * 00:00 – Defining the Decision Line * 06:50 – Decision Science vs. Implementation Science * 09:41 – Linking the Decision Line to the Five Dysfunctions * 13:44 – Galvanizing and Communication After Decisions * 16:35 – Real-World Example of Clarity Over Consensus * 21:33 – The Power of Clarity in Leadership Thanks to Krista Kotrla for being on the show! Visit: https://kristakotrla.com/ Connect with Krista on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristakotrla This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via

What makes galvanizing more disruptive than other Working Geniuses? In episode 93 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why galvanizing is the most disruptive of all the Working Geniuses. They unpack the nature of galvanizing as the only Genius that necessarily involves moving others, making it uniquely powerful—and often misunderstood. Through stories and reflection, they highlight the challenges and the essential value of galvanizers in any team or organization. Topics explored in this episode: (0:40) Why Galvanizing Disrupts by Nature * Unlike other Geniuses, galvanizing cannot happen in isolation—it always affects others. (4:33) Galvanizing * People with galvanizing as a frustration often avoid rallying others or making requests. * Teams without galvanizers struggle to gain momentum. (7:25) Real-Life Galvanizing * Cody shares a college story of galvanizing classmates. * Even unpopular actions can be valuable when driven by a galvanizing instinct. (11:14) Galvanizing Paired with Other Geniuses * Adding G to any Genius makes the combination more action-oriented. * Certain Genius pairings, like IG or GT, can help breakthrough change. (15:03) Leading and Conviction * Sometimes conviction or leadership can be mistaken for galvanizing. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback...

Are you unintentionally discouraging others by calling something “easy”? In episode 92 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore the pitfalls of assuming that what’s easy and fun for you will be the same for others. They explore how working within your genius can make tasks feel effortless and how this can mislead us when advising or leading others. This episode is a reminder to value your own strengths and to honor the differences in how others are wired. Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) The Myth of Easy and Fun * Pat shares a story about someone saying a college major was “easy and fun” without considering individual differences. * The idea that what's easy within your genius can be misleading for others. (03:18) Why 'Easy' Can Hurt * Labeling tasks as “easy” can unintentionally demotivate or discourage others who struggle. * People may feel inadequate or undervalued when they can't replicate what seems effortless to someone else. (06:29) Practice vs. Joy * Mastery alone doesn't lead to fulfillment if you're not working in your genius. * Pat reflects on writing as a gift and contrasts it with skills he’s developed that still feel like a chore. (09:29) Self-Awareness and Respecting Differences * How practicing wonder isn’t fulfilling for Cody even if he gets better at it. * The need to avoid pushing people into roles they’re not wired for. (13:01) Real-World Consequences * Misjudging others’ working genius can lead to years stuck in an unfulfilling career. * Parenting and workplace examples that show how important it is to honor different gifts. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (

What makes the Genius of Enablement (“E”) such a crucial part of team implementation? Episode 91 of the Working Genius Podcast dives into the Enablement Genius with guest Tracy Noble, Chief Development Officer at The Table Group. Pat, Cody, and Tracy explore the subtle power of Enablement—how it brings relational glue to implementation and drives team cohesion. They also unpack the differences between Enablement and people-pleasing, and how to regulate Enablement without shutting it down. Topics explored in this episode: (0:52) The Complexity of Enablement * Tracy describes how her Discernment constantly informs her Enablement. * How Enablement is often misunderstood. * Enablement goes far beyond just being helpful or friendly. (4:35) Implementation, Not Just Helping * Enablement starts implementation with people, not tasks. * Teams without E often operate in silos. (9:09) Virtue Versus Genius * Enablement isn't the same as kindness—it can be self-serving in a good way. * Tracy shares why Enablement energizes her when it serves others. (13:44) Enablement in Action * Enablement plays out in both personal moments and strategic leadership. (17:21) Regulating the E * Even Geniuses need regulation—especially Enablement. * Recognizing when Discernment is needed over Enablement. Thanks to Tracy Noble for being on the show! Connect with Tracy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracy-noble-025b40a/ This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workingGenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify

How can recognizing the “lowercase” application of your Working Genius improve your contributions to projects and increase your job fulfillment? In episode 90 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the distinction between “uppercase” and “lowercase” expressions of the six Working Geniuses. Joined by Matt Lencioni, they unpack how to apply your genius even when it's not the dominant need in a situation. Topics explored in this episode: (0:53) Introducing Uppercase and Lowercase Genius * Using your genius in its "uppercase" glory or a "lowercase" supportive capacity. (4:34) Applying Genius in Different Contexts * Examples of uppercase geniuses, like a "Wonder" (W) initiating a new project or an "Inventor" (I) developing a new product. * How lowercase W or I contributes to a launch meeting by wondering and inventing within the launch's context. (8:16) Self-Regulation and Team Trust * The difference between unhelpfully disruptive uppercase contributions and service-oriented lowercase ones. (12:55) Shared Language * Applying lowercase genius to prevent individuals from dominating. * How Working Genius provides a shared language for feedback, fostering trust. * Knowing one another's working geniuses allows for intentional delegation and contribution, leading to greater joy and fulfillment. A note for new listeners/viewers: In this episode, Pat and Cody dive deep into the Six Types of Working Genius, a model that helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. If you’re new to our framework, perhaps consider checking out some earlier episodes of The Working Genius Podcast. Or, if you’re interested, you can take The Six Types of Working Genius assessment, which is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Refresher: The initials discussed in this episode refer to: W = Wonder. I = Invention. D = Discernment. G = Galvanizing. E = Enablement. T = Tenacity. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on

How often do you assume someone’s behavior is a flaw in their character instead of a feature of their genius? In episode 89 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack the “Fundamental Attribution Error” and how it damages relationships at work and at home. They explain how people often misjudge each other’s actions as flaws rather than features of their unique Working Genius. By walking through all six Geniuses, the hosts show how greater understanding can lead to less guilt, less judgment, and better collaboration. Topics explored in this episode: (0:35) Understanding the Attribution Trap * The fundamental attribution error leads us to blame others’ character while excusing our own behavior. * Working Genius helps reframe annoying behaviors as strengths expressed out of context. (5:35) Wonder and Invention * Wonderers can be misjudged as unfocused, skeptical, or afraid to commit due to their questioning nature. * Inventors might be seen as flaky, ego-driven, undisciplined, or impatient due to their constant flow of new ideas. (12:38) Discernment and Galvanizing * Discerners are often misjudged as overly judgmental due to their evaluative nature. * Galvanizers can be perceived as overly enthusiastic, insincere, or bossy. (21:26) Enablement and Tenacity * People with enablement might be seen as unwilling to say no or even dishonest due to their eagerness to help and affirm. * People with tenacity can be unfairly seen as unsympathetic or afraid to fail because of their focus on finishing tasks. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (

How can your understanding of Myers-Briggs add to your Working Genius? In episode 88 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody dive into the relationship between Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) and the Six Types of Working Genius. They explore how MBTI describes who you are (the noun), while Working Genius describes what you do best (the verb). Through examples and insights, they show how combining both tools can improve self-awareness, team collaboration, and career decisions. Topics explored in this episode: (00:40) Nouns vs. Verbs: The Core Difference * MBTI describes your personality preferences—the "noun" of who you are. * Working Genius identifies the activities you love—the "verb" of what you do. (04:30) A Crash Course in MBTI * The four MBTI dimensions: E/I, N/S, T/F, and J/P. * How these traits affect decision-making and communication. (7:31) No Overlap, But Total Alignment * Working Genius and MBTI have no direct correlation—and that’s a strength. * Personal anecdotes show how people with the same MBTI have different Working Geniuses. * The pairing of both tools unlocks richer insight into how someone works and thrives. (18:59) Real Examples * Stories from The Table Group that contrast MBTI and Working Genius. . (24:46) Advanced Nuance and Practical Use * The concept of a "secondary MBTI type." This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (

How can understanding and embracing your Working Genius help you redefine your concept of “work” and “retirement”? In episode 87 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson take on the increasingly common desire to quit work or retire early, questioning whether it's truly the job people want to escape—or the lack of fulfillment in how they work. Pat and Cody also explore how Working Genius can offer clarity and help people rediscover joy and meaning in their work. Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) Rethinking the Desire to Quit * How many people want to quit their jobs or retire early, yet the issue often isn’t the job itself but a misalignment with a person’s genius. (03:15) What Retirement Is Really About * Unpacking cultural assumptions about retirement and how it often becomes a symbol of freedom. * Pat warns that early retirement can be a form of escapism that leads to purposelessness. (06:24) The Role of Working Genius in Fulfillment * Working Genius can help you diagnose dissatisfaction at work. * Cody encourages people to use their genius as a compass, not a constraint. (09:54) The Gift of Work * The hosts reflect on how work is meant to be a gift, not a punishment. * Leaders are encouraged to help others find purpose in their work by matching genius to roles. (13:14) The Real Cost of Quitting * Quitting or retiring too early can rob people of meaningful impact. This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.