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In this episode of the Open Late Podcast, Jess connects with Joe and Reese, hosts of the Poly By Nature podcast. They discuss their transition from monogamy to polyamory and why it was important in order to keep their relationship organic. They delve into the natural flaws experienced by newly opened couples and share insights on raising kids in an open relationship. Joe and Reese open up about introducing polyamory to their teenage children and how being open enhances communication and personal growth. By embracing this lifestyle, Joe, Reese, and Jess highlight how it has positively impacted their lives and reshaped their perspectives on love and relationships. The discussion extends to preparing their children for future relationships with an open mind and a non-judgmental attitude. Lastly, they reveal their exciting plans for the near future with the podcast. In this Episode of Open Late: From infidelity to polyamory Navigating freshly open relationship Introducing polyamory to teenage kids Openness enhances communication and growth Exciting plans for the future Connect with Poly By Nature: • Instagram: @polybynaturepodcast • Podcast: Poly By Nature Podcast • Website: https://www.polybynature.com/ Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary 5:10 Monogamy was like, you know, you get together, you commit to each other and say, I'm only being with you. You have a couple of kids and you just live life happily ever after. And our happily ever after wasn't coming fast enough for me. Joe 11:30 We started with me thinking that I had to find someone that fit both of us immediately and fast. Like I need to go out and find a friend that makes sense for both of us. And she's got to be just as cool as Reese. Joe 19:19 In the beginning of my poly journey, I thought it was geared towards sex. When I first looked it up, it was super glorified into a sexual connotation. But the whole world, when you start to talk about social media in the presence of what poly shows, it shows itself on a very sexual level. Joe 21:08 Entertainment and media sensationalize and over sexualize everything. And that clears the picture on why for so many people a sexual relationship may be the only way that they see to intimacy. I don't think we grow up with a lot of role models of healthy intimacy, healthy relationships that might be platonic polyamory or whatever it is. - Jessica Esfandiary 28:45 I want my children to know and to learn. I don’t think they will be poly, but I think that in the day, at least they'll be able to walk into relationships, monogamous or poly with an open mind and just simply says, okay, here's my boundaries, here's what I want from this relationship, here's how I want to grow from it, and here's what I can give you and be fine with that. Joe 34:17 Hey, this is a relationship that you're having. That's yours. You know, I can listen to some of it, but some of it is private between you two. And keep those two things private because, you know, she may not want me to know some of these things, not in the bad way, but more in a respectful way of, you know, relationships separations at that point. Joe 36:08 So many women are conditioned to believe that sexual intimacy and exclusivity should be really important to them because it's like what society teaches us. Jessica Esfandiary Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re back again with Alexys part 2 in Asking For A Friend! The girls continue the conversation by talking about jealousy and how your partner flirting with a different person does not immediately mean attraction. Alexys opens up owning a small business, the mental struggles that come with it, and why she decided to go part-time. Alexys asks Jess raw questions about her upcoming "stepping into motherhood" and why people connect Polyamory with "white people shit". In this episode of Open Late: • Understanding the truth about flirting • Owning a small business and "monetizing" your passions • Stepping into Motherhood and having hard conversations with your kids • "White people shit" and different cultural views on Polyamory Connect with Alexys: • Instagram: @cakesbyalexys Cynthia's Nixon viral “Be a Lady They Said” Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ZSDS7zVdU Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary 3:15 Emotional intelligence, just from my end, shows up in a way that is authentic. - Alexys Calhoun 4:02 After an argument with my partner, I had to tell him “You don't always have to fix it. I just didn't like your tone”. - Alexys Calhoun 5:12 We oversexualize everything in this country. – Jessica Esfandiary 17:03 Women are more coded. Like we are afraid to reveal ourselves. – Jessica Esfandiary 18:15 I’m a direct person, which is apparently not okay when you have a vagina. - Alexys Calhoun 22:50 You don't have to monetize your passion. - Alexys Calhoun 25:38 It is great when a woman can take something and catapult into a new realm. – Jessica Esfandiary 26:53 And if you don't want to show it. That's okay too. - Alexys Calhoun 29:25 If your only argument is that "it's not okay for the kids", then you are probably not a good parent because you cannot have those open dialogues with your kids. - Alexys Calhoun 32:58 If you look at the nuclear family, you are just seeing people that are way under-resourced, barely surviving. - Jessica Esfandiary Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get ready for a heart-to-heart chat that will make you feel like you just hung out with your two best girlfriends! In this episode of our new series, ASKING FOR A FRIEND, Jess sits down with Alexys Calhoun. Alexys is her former personal assistant, a long-time friend, and owner of CakesByAlexys. The girls go into the importance of women celebrating other women and how understanding yourself can help you raise your standards. They also look at the principles of non-monogamy and how people's perception of you changes when they find out you are open. In this episode of Open Late: • Celebrating other women and raising your standards • Group "Mom" energy • How to balance sobriety and going out • Principles of non-monogamy and other’s misinformed perceptions of CNM Connect with Alexys: • Instagram: @cakesbyalexys Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary 5:59 You helped me step into my hot girl era before I even knew it was happening. - Jessica Esfandiary 8:29 Don't be too big, don't overshadow anybody. Growing up in a society that was like don't take up too much space, embracing sexuality was taboo. - Jessica Esfandiary 9:36 This is the year of cringe, and we are going to embrace it.- Alexys Calhoun 14:29 I am enough on my own, and there is no competition. - Jessica Esfandiary 15:31 I want more for everybody. Like I hope in 10 years, women are like, "You put that woman down?; we don't do that anymore!" - Alexys Calhoun 19:04 I take naked photos with the idea it's art, not sex. - Jessica Esfandiary 20:09 I would just look in the mirror and tell myself I am beautiful even though I didn't think it for the longest time. - Alexys Calhoun 21:25 For a long time, I thought I had to be a role model. - Jessica Esfandiary 24:09 These days, I’m taking a step back and trying to be an ear to somebody rather than giving them my opinion. - Alexys Calhoun 31:28 Non-Monogamy is great, but some people can find it weird. And I am like, "It's weird for you; it's not weird for them." - Alexys Calhoun 33:39 Not “letting” your partner do something stems from the belief that you own your partner. - Jessica Esfandiary 35:10 Keeping constantly away your desires and attraction from your partner will erode your own confidence, self-esteem and your relationship. - Jessica Esfandiary 39:05 If you really love somebody and you want to hold them to their greatness, let them decide how they wanna handle the information. - Jessica Esfandiary Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Open Late Podcast, Jess connects with Frank Smith, a queer writer and actor known for his work on the show "Open To It." Throughout their conversation, they delve into the origins of the show, discussing how it all began and the challenges they had to face along the way. As the discussion progresses, Jess and Frank touch upon personal aspects of his life, specifically when Frank and his partner made the decision to open up about his relationship. They explore the process of creating a show "Open To It" and how they handle filming intimate scenes, shedding light on the behind-the-scenes aspects of production. They talk about how the world reacted to the show's content and the impact it had on those who were a part of Frank's life. Frank opens up about how the show may have influenced or altered his relationship in some shape or form, sharing positive outcomes that arose from it. For those interested in watching "Open To It" and keeping up with upcoming events. In this Episode of Open Late: Coming up with an idea for a show Challenges of creating a queer comedy series Behind the scenes of filming intimate scenes Frank's “secret” proposal story “Where to watch” and upcoming events Mentioned in the Episode: Please Like me - Television Comedy Drama: Please Like Me Pleasure Podcast: Sex Talk With My Mom On-Screen Intimacy Coordinator Shelby Terrell: Open Late Episode 85 Connect with Frank Smith: • Instagram: @frank.arthur.smith • Watch Open To It: https://www.opentoitseries.com/ Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary 2:31 I did write the first episode as a short film originally and submitted to a couple of competitions, where one literally said to me, this is too gay and too gross. I was like, okay, well, you know what? My show is too gay, and is too gross. And this is exactly what I'm going to do right now. – Frank Smith 4:52 a lot of times the way that we would communicate it or, you know, whether you're writing it or sharing your vision, you know, or even like putting together a whole storyboard, sometimes it's just not going to come to life for someone else, or it does in a way that's through their filter, through their lens. – Jessica Esfandiary 34:12 But I'm really proud of what we're doing. We've gotten the chance to showcase a lot of different types of people. We just had like in episode eight, we have a love interest and had a deaf director and an ASL interpreting crew, so I'm just really pleased with how we keep getting to showcase more and more people that are part of it. – Frank Smith 39:16 I just love hearing about these things when people who live sort of outside the box, being poly or whatever, being non-monogamous, coloring outside the lines all the time when you do something that's traditional. – Jessica Esfandiary Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special episode of the Open Late Podcast, celebrating her 9-year anniversary, Jess recounts the heartwarming story of how she woke up that morning, and unexpectedly found herself in a surprise wedding, making her a married woman by the end of the day. She takes us back to the beginning of her relationship with Pasha, admitting that she initially thought he might only be a rebound after her last breakup. She also shares the touching moment when Pasha surprised her with a proposal, followed shortly after by an intimate and magical surprise wedding surrounded by their closest friends. She reflects 10 years back, and wonders what her response would have been if someone had asked her whether she believed she would be in an open, polyamorous relationship today. In this Episode of Open Late: Surprise proposal on Anniversary The beginnings of Jess and Pasha Unexpected but perfect Wedding Reflects on open relationship possibility Mentioned in the Episode: Pregnancy. Changes. Everything Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary 1:47 The day that I woke up, the day that I got married. - Jessica Esfandiary 3:21 I had just gotten out of a three and a half year relationship that was really toxic, that was very limiting. It was stunting for my growth or my expression, for my sexuality. I just wanted fun and I probably wanted a little bit of danger, too, to be honest. And so he was ripe for the picking. - Jessica Esfandiary 3:45 We had a mutual friend that introduced us, and she actually forbade us from dating. So, I mean, that made the whole thing even hotter. - Jessica Esfandiary 7:08 I remember we had bought this journal and we decided that we would write to each other on our anniversary every year, and it was going to be a gift to each other back and forth. And we would do it for the whole time that we were together for the rest of our lives, apparently. I didn't know that. - Jessica Esfandiary 8:08 He proposes with this beautiful band and I instead say. Yes, there's like not a bone in my body that's confused about wanting to spend my life with this man. - Jessica Esfandiary 8:19 When we did decide to be together, it was like, this is my life partner. And that first year of our relationship was easy, breezy, beautiful, blissful. And you know, relationships don't last that way forever, especially long term committed ones. But that first year was incredible. - Jessica Esfandiary 18:12 When we officially started to date and there was exclusivity in our relationship. I knew that I would easily spend my life with this man and that he was the most driven and the most committed to his own growth. And that's what I was really looking for in a partner. And I didn't want to settle for less than crazy and love, which I was with him. - Jessica Esfandiary 19:13 If you asked me the night of my wedding, like, do you think that your relationship is open or do you think you're going to open it or do you think you'll be polyamorous? I didn't even know what polyamory was, so the answer would be no. - Jessica Esfandiary 20:29 That is the story of how I had a surprise wedding and I went to bed a married woman on a day that I woke up and I wasn't even engaged. So if you want to know who's the most confident man in the world and also who's the most spot on in the world, it's Pasha. - Jessica Esfandiary Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Open Late Podcast, Jess continues her conversation with Irene Morning, the author of "The Polyamory Paradox." They delve into the topic of contemplating polyamory while understanding our personal triggers and its impact. Additionally, they discuss the importance of comprehending our partners' perspectives and avoiding pressuring them into “closing back the relationship”. Instead, encouraging open communication to address any issues that arise. They explore the concept of unsolvable problems that may arise in polyamorous relationships, as well as the feelings of isolation. They also explore the process of finding and building communities with like-minded individuals. In this Episode of Open Late: Understanding your triggers The unsolvable problems of relationship Control vs. Containment Sex positive spaces and people's perception Finding and building up like-minded communities Connect with Irene Morning: • Instagram: @irene_morning • Book: The Polyamory Paradox • Website: https://www.irenemorning.com/ Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary 2:05 Particularly from people who know that they have some amount of trauma in their history, who identify with a complex PTSD diagnosis or know that mental health has been a struggle for them of thinking I really love some of the concepts in polyamory and I love the things that I've read about it, but I'm so afraid that for me it's untenable because I'll just get too triggered. – Irene Morning 14:20 It makes me think about the monogamous relationships actually that I'm seeing transform based on some of these principles of non-monogamy that will never likely be non-monogamous, never open, but are using the tools of, like you know, seeing yourself as a whole person, being your partner as a whole person, and not expecting them to fill all your needs. – Jessica Esfandiary 15:00 I just love the idea that people will begin to use pleasure and intimacy and vulnerability and authenticity in ways that can open their relationship, just maybe not to other lovers, but just open their relationships, period, because that's like going to be such a beautiful world, probably totally like I'll be, you know, around for completely. – Jessica Esfandiary 31:41 What I need is more community around this. So can I give myself permission to actually just own that in some of these interactions and start to differentiate that out? I mean, it brings me back to the question of the beginning of like people anchoring into their why. I sometimes think as we evolve in this, we realize that our why for when we first start getting into non-monogamy is sometimes actually feeling like, okay, more relationships can fill this need for community that I didn't even realize was a need. – Irene Morning Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Open Late Podcast, Jess again engages in an enlightening conversation with Irene Morning, a somatic coach, pleasure witch, intimacy educator, and the talented author behind "The Polyamory Paradox." Together, they talk deep into the world of Irene's creative process, unraveling the journey of how the book came to life. Irene's unique perspective and expertise shine through as she shares her insights on navigating polyamory and the intricacies of human emotions. Jessica openly shares her own personal experiences and the impact of both Irene's book and Irene on her journey. She highlights how the book has served as a roadmap, providing guidance and understanding in navigating polyamory and emotions. In this Episode of Open Late: Creative process of writing How our emotions affect our thinking The battle of Control vs. Containment Personal impact of the book Exploring "The Window of Tolerance" Episode 56 mentioned in the episode: Mind, Body and Non-monogamy Connect with Irene Morning: • Instagram: @irene_morning • Book: The Polyamory Paradox • Website: https://www.irenemorning.com/ Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary 2:29 This is one of the most comprehend things, if not the most complete book to take you from the beginning, experiences through being able to live this way with as many tools as possible for any type of for any type of open relationship. - Jessica Esfandiary 4:04 I hope that the therapy scene is changing a little bit in corners of the therapy world. But I think that is one of the things where coaching gets to operate differently, where I don't necessarily have the same concerns professionally about self-disclosure, where I can tell my story more openly and not worry that that's going to interfere with my practice, but that actually it really supports my client. - Irene Morning 26:23 If you're going through a really challenging experience in non-monogamy and you're finding yourself really struggling in a big way and triggered in a way that interferes with doing work or maintaining relationships or having healthy sleep or getting proper nutrition, all of these kind of like basic regulation things, you are probably operating outside your window of tolerance. - Irene Morning 36:36 70% or 80% of the recurring arguments that couples have. That conflict is not actually something that they can resolve. So the objective when we're doing conflict resolution and conflict work in a relationship is not necessarily to fix the source of that conflict, but is to look at how we can communicate about it more effectively, how can we navigate the conflict more effectively? - Irene Morning 38:53 At the end of the day, your whole purpose and I think your goal as a human, just knowing you in your work is to grow and to constantly reclaim the parts of yourself that don't feel whole. Whether you can call that inner child healing or, you know, soul. - Jessica Esfandiary Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Open Late Podcast, Jess connects with Carolina Salazar, a certified holistic health coach and hormone specialist from the Inner Growth Podcast. Together, they explore Carolina's inspiring journey that led her to become a holistic coach. Carolina candidly shares her personal story of struggling with body image and weight due to cultural differences, leading to an unhealthy relationship with her body. She opens up about her experience with obsessive exercise and unhealthy weight loss, reaching a breaking point that prompted her to make necessary changes. The discussion delves into the concept of orthorexia and Carolina's realization of swinging to the other extreme of "healthy" living, where she found herself judging others' food choices and living an extremely food-restrictive lifestyle. They touch on the importance of accepting parents for who they are and the societal pressure on women's appearance. They emphasize the significance of seeking help when needed. In this Episode of Open Late: Holistic coaching journey Overcoming body image struggles Orthorexia and finding balance Accepting different opinions and societal pressures Acknowledging the problem and importance of Seeking support Listen to Inner Growth Episode with Jessica: Growing from mushroom experiences and Exploring your Sexuality with Jess Esfandiary Connect with Carolina Salazar: • Instagram: @thecarolinalifestyle • Podcast: Inner Growth Podcast • Website: https://stan.store/thecarolinalifestyle Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary Quotes from this episode: 3:14 The world that we live in and all the conditions that are placed on us as women, on our bodies, on what we're supposed to look like, and how that kind of becomes our inner talk and it becomes the programming that we're fed. And then can sometimes lead to very toxic behavior. – Carolina Salazar 10:42 I think the trickiest part was the validation that I was receiving. As a society, we glorify weight loss. – Carolina Salazar 11:55 The backdrop of the conversation is about how people's weight is important to who they are and what they're worth. – Jessica Esfandiary 16:12 If you've been through a restrictive pattern or time of your life, breaking those restrictions can feel really scary. – Carolina Salazar 18:17 I started doing a big deep dive on this discomfort that I felt and the shame and the self-judgment and like how I was labeling foods as good or bad, and then feeling like there is this morality with food. And if I ate bad food, I was a bad person. – Carolina Salazar 28:56 Our emotional and energetic well-being is such a big part of our health. It's not just food and exercise, it's everything. – Carolina Salazar 29:48 I am done with letting restrictions and rules and this endless pursuit of looking a certain way or of fitting this societal standard of thinness, get in the way of my joy. – Carolina Salazar 43:31 It's not my job to change my parents' perspective because for them it's not an issue. – Jessica Esfandiary 44:36 Healing is like an onion. Layers and layers, ultimately getting to like a really strong core. – Carolina Salazar 51:28 Studies have shown that your relationship to body image and disordered eating have a big correlation to people not wanting to be intimate or have romantic partners. – Jessica Esfandiary Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Open Late Podcast, Jess continues her conversation with Lana Shay, the author of "Erotic Hustle." Lana shares her lifestyle and mission. She details her current project of creating a “conscious” strip club, that’s more like a sensual temple where men can leave feeling empowered instead of hungover, broke, and less respect for women and themselves. Lana also reads an excerpt from her book, Erotic Hustle. In this episode of Open Late: Lana's book and its inspiration Sobriety in the Las Vegas scene Tantric Art Exploring the concept of a Conscious Strip Club What you can find in “Erotic Hustle” Connect with Lana Shay: • Instagram: @iamlanashay • Book: Erotic Hustle: Redefining Sin through Sacred Sexuality & Psychedelics • Website: https://lanashay.com/ Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary Quote from the episode: 3:57 It was easy for me to work in the strip club while having these practices, being so dedicated to a holistic lifestyle because I saw the need, and these were the people who needed it the most. It almost excited me. – Lana Shay 5:15 I am a huge advocate for ditching alcohol, and you know everyone's drinking in a strip club. That's what you were doing, we were serving them that. So, imagine that every single person who's drinking that I interface with, my deep secret intention is to get them to stop drinking. – Lana Shay 11:20 Men are really starved for intimacy and relationships with other men. Men will seek out sex workers a lot of times just for connection and I saw that so much in the club, and I also see it now in my life. – Jessica Esfandiary 13:30 Babies die if they're not touched and held enough when they're first born. Yes, we're not going to die as adults but it's still that feeling of kind of dying inside if you're not getting enough physical interaction. – Lana Shay 15:16 I like touching my customers, I feel like I can give so much through one conscious touch and it doesn't have to be sexual. It never was sexual, it's just like “Hey I see you I feel you.” – Lana Shay 16:23 People do not get better when they're punished. It doesn't work. – Jessica Esfandiary 17:52 I like the idea where men come into a strip club where we can show up for them in a way that allows them to go out in the world and feel like a man that's nourished and powerful. A way that he's connected to himself and wants to show up for women in a conscious way. – Lana Shay 18:53 Women like us are so committed to breaking these cycles and these constructs that just don't serve anyone. Patriarchy is such a touchy thing and I think what men fail to realize is it's hurting them more than it's hurting women because it's this unseen hurt that happens. – Jessica Esfandiary 27:08 In the right environment with the right container and people it could be the most expansive work you do in your life. - Jessica Esdadiary 29:05 Understand the power of sexual energy and how to circulate it and cultivate it and use it for much more than a crotch sneeze. Not that orgasms are bad, but certain types of orgasms are like prostheses. We can get way better orgasms here, people! - Lana Shay 32:39 There is so much healing in sexuality. I truly believe it's in denying our sexual nature that we cause a lot of pain inside ourselves - Jessica Esfandiary Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Open Late Podcast, Jessica sits down and has a conversation with Lana Shay, author of "Erotic Hustle." Together, they explore the fascinating parallels in their lives, discovering that their paths may have crossed in the past during their time working in the vibrant nightlife of Las Vegas. Reflecting on their respective journeys, Jessica and Lana dive into their experiences with psychedelics and the profound transformations these substances have brought to their lives. Lana shares her personal story, including her past marriage and the unexpected twists and turns that led her to living in the jungle in Costa Rica! In this episode of Open Late: Finding freedom after challenging relationships Holistic living and natural remedies Transformative effects of plant medicine Living in the jungle of Costa Rica Nurturing societal conditioning of women Connect with Lana Shay: • Instagram: @iamlanashay • Book: Erotic Hustle: Redefining Sin through Sacred Sexuality & Psychedelics • Website: https://lanashay.com/ Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary Quotes from the episode: 9:10 I was in a very toxic relationship and pretty devoted to this guy really not knowing what my own wants and desires were. Shortly after I found out that that guy was totally leading a double life for almost three years and had a pretty serious sex addiction. – Jessica Esfandiary 12:24 You need to stop resisting and fighting your desire to be in a relationship. - Lana Shay 14:03 There was a moment where I wanted I had this deep desire to have a child with him and I realized it was simply because I wanted to heal him. I wanted him to feel so deeply loved that someone wanted him to continue his legacy. – Lana Shay 15:47 Women in general, as we're growing up, are very conditioned to tune ourselves to the energy of men and be in that nurturing, supportive, “how can I please you” role. – Jessica Esfandiary 24:40 I'm so healthy, all I care about is my health. And I'm preaching to people about holistic living while I have to down a bottle of Advil every month, I feel like such a fake. – Lana Shay 28:34 Our body builds up a lot of toxins. We live in a pretty toxic environment, all the things we put in our bodies and on our skin, and then it's absorbed, not to mention the way that we think and the way that we speak to ourselves. – Jessica Esfandiary 36:37 I was in Costa Rica, and people started leaving as covid started spreading. And they said the borders are closing, you either leave now or stay here. I was like “The world is finally ending and I am “stuck” in a paradise? I am not leaving!”. - Lana Shay Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Open Late Podcast, Jessica takes a moment to provide a heartfelt life update since the beginning of the year, sharing her personal journey towards motherhood. Jessica opens up about her experience of losing the ability to carry children and the emotional challenges that came with it. She then takes us through her journey of exploring surrogacy as a path to parenthood, including the process of finding the right surrogate. Jessica shares the heartwarming story of meeting their surrogate Carly and the excitement from discussing the idea of having twins to actually getting pregnant. She reflects on the emotions and preparations that accompanied this life-changing decision. As a special treat, Jessica announces exciting giveaways for the listeners, adding an extra element of celebration and connection with the Open Late community. Don't miss out! In this episode of Open Late: Journey towards motherhood Why did they choose surrogacy pregnancy Finding the right surrogate Having Twins and baby moon Giveaways for listeners Episode about Motherhood with McLean McGown: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-late/id1587979583?i=1000560573356 Follow our surrogacy pregnancy: @the.surrogacy.pregnancy Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary Quotes from the episode: 0:51 The quality of our relationships dictate the quality of our lives. - Jessica Esfandiary 3:05 My journey through having cervical cancer and a hysterectomy ultimately resulted in me not being able to get pregnant because I don't have a uterus or for the rest of the parts. - Jessica Esfandiary 6:20 A really good friend of one of my closest friends reached out and said "I think that my friend is your surrogate.” - Jessica Esfandiary 7:03 I remember seeing her name on my phone and I just knew what it was about.. Like in that moment I was like “Oh my God” there's nothing else this could be about. - Jessica Esfandiary 8:28 Recognition and confirmation that this was the person that was meant to carry our babies into the world was such a pure feeling. - Jessica Esfandiary 13: 24 The Open Late studio we sit in right now will become our nursery. - Jessica Esfandiary 15:27 One of the other really amazing things about this journey to becoming parents is we feel like we just got invited to like “The cool kids club”. all of our other friends who are parents or becoming parents at this moment and we're all like doing this together and that feels really cool to share information and insights. - Jessica Esfandiary 16:44 No one knows what they are doing at the beginning, and it's okay to figure it out along the way. - Jessica Esfandiary Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special celebratory 100th episode of Open Late, Jessica is joined by her long-time friends Ginger Banks, an adult performer and activist, and Dr. Zhana Vrangalova, an NYU Professor of Sex and Sexuality and renowned sex researcher. Together, they discuss the nature of play parties and the standards organizers should follow, emphasizing the importance of embracing mistakes as a natural part of exploration and growth. The trio shares their own diverse experiences and perspectives, shedding light on how these experiences have shaped their outlook on various subjects. They delve into evolving gender questions and examine the impact of gender on sexual experiences. Consent, safety, and trauma responses are also key topics of discussion, with an emphasis on the significance of obtaining explicit consent and creating a safe environment for all individuals involved. The hosts explore the complexities of trauma and its potential impact on responses within sexual contexts. In this episode of Open Late: Nature of play parties and standards for organizers Embracing mistakes as a part of personal growth Evolving gender questions and their impact on sexual experiences Significance of consent, safety, and trauma responses Time myopia and the role of transgression in sexual exploration Connect with Ginger: • Instagram: @thegingerbanks Connect with Dr.Zhana: • Instagram: @drzhana • Website: www.drzhana.com • Email: zhana@drzhana.com • Open Smarter Course Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary Quotes from the episode: 17:30 Good and bad things happen at the club, good and bad things happen at sex clubs, good and bad things happen like all over the world and there's no such thing as a perfect space as ultimately a safe space because we're all humans flawed we're all gonna make mistakes. - Ginger Banks 20:00 I think it's really important if someone transgresses us to tell them how they hurt us and how they affected us, because I don't think there's any other way that their behavior is gonna change if we just completely remove ourselves from the situation. - Ginger Banks 39:40 Sometimes people cross boundaries because they themselves are so excited about the situation that they're in their own desire. Their own excitement is sort of overpowering their ability to read these more ambiguous signs that the person is showing in an accurate way. - Dr. Zhana Vrangalova 49:30 Personally, I think it's really important for me to be in my body. It makes it a lot safer that I don't drink because it really does put this time blindness on people it's called myopia where they actually only care about what's happening now, they don't care about the consequences. - Ginger Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts Older episodes with • Ginger: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-late/id1587979583?i=1000546411260 • Dr. Zhana: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-late/id1587979583?i=1000603261737 This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Jess connects with Emily, Dedeker, and Jase from the Multiamory podcast, who are also the co-authors of their recently released book, "Multiamory: Essential Tools for Modern Relationships." They share the inspiration behind their book and explore the journey they took to bring it to life. The hosts engage in a lively discussion about the various relationship tools and chapters featured in their book. This is not another “How To” book! Additionally, the Multiamory hosts reveal their favorite tools and explain why they find them valuable. The conversation takes a deeper dive into the realm of creating healthy communication within relationships and offer insightful advice on overcoming disagreements in relationships in a simpler way. In this episode of Open Late: The story behind the Multiamory book Different tools to create safe conversation in your relationship The significance of scheduling Radar Check-ins Discussing also why things are going well in relationships Finding community that understands and listens to your needs Connect with Multiamory: • Website: https://www.multiamory.com/ • Book: https://www.multiamory.com/book • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/multiamory_podcast/ • Become a Patreon/ Join the Discord : https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?c=256168 • Link to buy the Multiamory: Essential Tools for Modern Relationships book: multiamory.com/book Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary Quotes from the episode: 9:05 It's inevitable that whether you're in a triad, trying to get a threesome, solo poly, or maybe you want to find your monogamous married soulmate, or whatever it is, you're going to run into some communication problems. So we wrote a book and mapped out some tools you can use. Dedeker 12:48 The point is to not just jump to what it is that you think your partner needs but rather ask. Maybe say “what are you looking for here” or for you to tell your partner “hey all that I need from you right now is this”. Emily 13:45 I don't always know what I want, especially with my partner. Jessica Esfandiary 16:50 What people struggle with the most is how to communicate about their relationship choices to the people that don't understand their relationship choices. Jessica Esfandiary 19:00 Finding a good online community is difficult. Jase 19:10 I found that it is often better to communicate in person because we tend to be less shitty to each other face-to-face than we are online. Jase 24:00 When I say “I want to have a talk” it’s often associated with “Oh that's gonna be bad. This is gonna be stressful. You have a complaint.” What I love about Radar Check-in is, that it helps to take away some of those notions because in it you also talk about the stuff that's going well, stuff that's challenging, future plans and, maybe things you want to try.. Jase 28:48 Even if you know a person extremely well, you can never fully know exactly what's going on with them. Their desires and needs for something new and exciting in the relationship, even if things are going great, is a great opportunity for a Radar Check-in. Emily Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Jess returns to her conversation with a couple Donna and Alex, who are Jess’s listeners from Florida, creators of a blog called Swinging Through the Ages. Donna and Alex talk about how they have been navigating being swingers for decades and how they managed it without ever coming out to their children. Jess, Donna, and Alex discuss parenthood and if Florida is the most lifestyle state. They talk about their travel plans and why they carry upside-down pineapples on their luggage. In this episode of Open Late: • Lifestyle swingers and keeping it private • Upside-down Pineapple and meeting life-long friends • Is Florida the most lifestyle-friendly state? • Wearing wedding bands on the right hand • Open-minded parenting and knowing your children Connect with Donna and Alex: • Website: http://swingingthroughtheages.com Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary Quotes from the episode: If you can talk openly about your sexuality, and you realize the baseline is somewhere deep, then it is easy to develop such a meaningful friendship. – Jessica Esfandairy It is human nature, and we all tend to be secretive about it. – Jessica Esfandiary We are constantly looking for swingers in the wild. The upside-down pineapple is a sign. – Alex We had a very private swimming pool that was clothing optional. Our kids knew that we were not wearing bathing suits if they were not there. – Alex I recommend that couples should try dating separately. – Jessica Esfandiary We experience real happiness, seeing the other one happy. -Alex I really like how much she enjoyed being with another guy…. And her glow-up afterwards! - Alex Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Jess connects with Donna and Alex, a couple from Florida who stand behind a blog called Swinging Through the Ages. Donna and Alex are Open Late listeners who reacted to Jess's stories when she was looking for exciting stories about how people opened up their relationships. They walk us through the beginning of their relationship and what led them to become swingers, finding out about the Desire Resort, and the upside-down pineapple symbol! In this episode of Open Late: Becoming a poly-quad without knowing Remaining open after having kids Visiting a clothing-optional resort Upside-down Pineapple and meeting life-long friends Connect with Donna and Alex: • Website: http://swingingthroughtheages.com Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary Quotes from the episode: 3:03 You are never too old to get a new lifestyle. – Donna 3:36 If a couple flips our switch and there is chemistry there, age is just a number and is not an issue. – Alex 7:03 We had a "foursome" friendship with our friends that organically developed into something else. – Donna 8:09 Over time, it moved from just sitting next to each other and holding hands to making out and having oral sex with each other's partners. - Alex 8:40 We were kinda poly-quad before we even knew the term. – Alex 11:53 The entire relationship, we were never full swap. It was always a soft swap. – Donna 13:06 Her gaydar was always off the charts. – Donna 14:49 Back in high school, If I would fantasize, it was always about girls. -Donna 16:01 Labels are interesting because sometimes they are confusing, but sometimes they can be empowering.– Jessica Esfandiary 17:37 I wouldn't say I am BI, but If a guy wants to touch or play with me, I won't jump out of bed and punch him. – Alex 23:56 You can be in the jacuzzi, and it's like a giant cocktail of naked people. – Alex 26:11 People you meet when you are naked become amazing friends. - Alex 29:16 You talk about grandkids, retirement, what you are doing here, as well as where you want to go for dinner and where you want to go to play. – Donna 30:31 If you can talk openly about your sexuality, and you realize the baseline is somewhere deep, then it is easy to develop such a meaningful friendship. – Jessica Esfandairy Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Jess welcomes Marsha Molinari to the studio. Marsha is an LGBTQIA+ fashion icon, successful business owner and human rights activist. They talk about the need for more representation and perception of LGBTQIA+ communities. Marsha sheds light on the circumstances of her life before she moved to LA and what led her to become such a big part of HWood Hospitality and Nightlife Group. She opens up about her transition and how your close community can change your life experience. Marsha shares a bit about her dating life and what she expects from her future partner. In this episode of Open Late: Representation and diverse perspectives in LGBTQIA+ communities Marsha’s transition to a woman Starting a business in the heart of Hollywood The "Butterfly effect" Organizations that support Trans Youth Mentioned in the episode: Trevor Project: https://www.thetrevorproject.org/ GLAD: https://www.glad.org/ Imagine LA: https://www.imaginela.org/ Connect with Marsha: • Podcast: Marsha! Marsha! Marsha! • Instagram: @marshamolinari Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary Quotes from the episode: 4:39 If somebody plays your favorite song in the background, it immediately puts youinto a mood.- Marsha Molinari 6:01 There is so much that happens before the food gets to your table. - Marsha Molinari 12:56 I don't think that being strong takes away from your femininity. - Marsha Molinari 14:26 I specifically told Katy Perry not to tell everyone that I am gay. - Marsha Molinari 15:40 Going along discovering who you are when who you are inherently is taboo in society is challenging. - Jessica Esfandiary 20:47 So many people are told to hide. And if there was more representation when I was young, I might think and have chosen differently. - Marsha Molinari 21:39 I never knew there was a possibility of transition. Because the only representation I saw of transgender girls were sex workers, the murderers, the crazy person. - Marsha Molinari 33:23 He said to me, If they really knew you, they would know that you were always a woman. - Marsha Molinari 43:17 "Marsha in Paris" did it first. - Marsha Molinari 48:01 If you make someone feel good, they are going to have more high-vibration interactions with the people they go to next. - Jessica Esfandiary 49:35 I have people asking me, "What can I do for you" and I am like "Go do it for somebody else". - Marsha Molinari 56:27 If I would have had somebody to talk to, it would have changed those moments to not hurt as much. - Marsha Molinari Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Jess sits down with Chaneé Jackson Kendall, a black queer polyamorous woman, activist, educator and content creator. The two talk about the differences of poly theory vs. poly reality as people who experience polycule life everyday. With 15 years of polyamorous living experience, Chaneé has also brought up her son in a household with multiple mothers and father present. This has only elevated the lifestyle that their family is able to live in many ways, highlighting a shared workload, endless love, and financial freedom. They dig deeper into racial assumptions about polyamory and the importance of culturally competent poly education. In this episode of Open Late: • Polyamory Theory vs. Real Polyamorous Living • What’s a "Mom-glomerate" • The Benefits of Community Parenting • 4 Pillars of Intentional Polyamory • Healthy Time Away from Your Child Connect with Michelle: • Instagram: @chaneespeaks • Instagram: @blackpolypride Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary Evita's Episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-late/id1587979583?i=1000564831532 Evita's Book: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-polyamory-devotional-evita-lavitaloca-sawyers/1142751200;jsessionid=13E24DE2E77C17FD77A06C03A10696A0.prodny_store02-atgap12?ean=9781990869235&st=AFF&2sid=Linktree%20Pty%20Ltd_100589976_NA&sourceId=AFFLinktree%20Pty%20Ltd Polyamory and Parenthood by The Daylovers https://remodeledlove.samcart.com/products/polyamory-parenthood-book Quotes from the episode: 2:47 People have a conversation about polyamory in the clouds, and I like to have conversations about polyamory on the ground. – Chaneé Jackson Kendall 4:27 When we got married, we had our partners by our side at our wedding ceremony. – Chaneé Jackson Kendall 9:28 I fell madly in love with a woman three months before my husband and I got married. Chaneé Jackson Kendall 14:50 Our life is not public, but We Are Who We Are everywhere we go. – Chaneé Jackson Kendall 17:46 When our son was three months old me, and my partner fell in love with another woman. – Chaneé Jackson Kendall 18:50 The reality is that the way our current society is set up like even with lots and lots of money, two-parent households are largely unhappy. – Chaneé Jackson Kendall 34:28 I wanted to let other people, who naturally love the way that I love, know that it's not just something that upper-middle-class white people do. – Chaneé Jackson Kendall 39.09 Whenever you are taking in content, make sure that you never take advice from someone who's not where you want to be. – Chaneé Jackson Kendall 47:21 It is part of our relational culture that we should all have the freedom to date if we desire. – Chaneé Jackson Kendall 48:15 People are always so worried about the kids in polyamory; meanwhile, this is the most over-loved child ever. - Jessica Esfandiary 55:37 When you have something good, you can always be open to better. – Chaneé Jackson Kendall Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To the Open Late Community, I have a short but important statement that I want to share with all of you. I deleted some podcast episodes last week with an organization where we discussed play parties and their culture. After some new information came to light and I reflected on some of my own experiences, I decided that I was no longer in alignment with that organization, and I felt like I should delete these episodes. This podcast has been my baby for the last year and a half, and the community we have created together, the episodes I share every week, and the guests I have on the show mean so much to me. The information we share, learn and grow from together is valuable to me. I had to really think about what my intention is and what is the most important thing about the work that I do. I came back to the fact that so many of you trust me. You ask me questions every week, share personal details about your lives with me, and look to me for advice and coaching. If people really trust me, then honesty, integrity, and transparency have to be the utmost important things, and they have to be at the forefront of what I am doing. The decision I made was not made lightly. I talked to my partners about it, deliberated, went back and forth, and talked to my most trusted chosen family. Ultimately, I came back to honesty and integrity and decided to take down these interviews. It was not the easy thing to do; the easy thing would have been to keep the interviews and separate them from my personal view. But I think doing the challenging thing of opening up and sharing that this is not in alignment and I don't feel comfortable promoting this organization anymore was the right thing to do. Whenever we have challenging conversations, we grow from them, and that's why I'm releasing this statement. I want you to know that if you listen to or watch those episodes, they're not bad. There's a lot of good information, a great conversation, and some really good listener questions that we answered on the show about the parties and culture. So if you've already listened to them, it's all good. You can definitely take away some things and apply them to your life. However, I took them down because I am no longer in alignment with that organization, and I don't feel comfortable promoting and sending people to their events. That's all I wanted to share, and I hope that you all take this with whatever meaning it can have for you in your own lives. There's always a lesson to learn, and I'm committed to bringing you amazing guests with amazing content every week for as long as it feels good for me. If you want to be a bigger part of our community, we're always growing, so feel free to join our WhatsApp group "Open Talks," which is a free community where you can ask questions and get advice and coaching. It's a really amazing peer support space. Also, our website is live, and it has had a complete revamp by Nacole, so feel free to check it out. You can access all of our resources there, like our "What's your relationship style quiz?", our dictionary, all of the books and podcasts that I recommend and love, and so much more. Let me know what you think, and I will see you next week on Open Late. • Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this solo episode, Jessica shares her steamy experience from Mexico. Jess and her husband visited an clothing optional couples-only resort for the first time! Jess talks about enthusiastic consent and the special areas and services the resort offers. Jess also opens up more about why the trip was so important and about connecting with her partner more deeply before they bring children into this world. In this episode of Open Late: • Adults and Couples-only Resort in Mexico • The importance of understanding consent • Erotic couples massage experience • Connecting with your partner on a deeper level • Understanding difference between Strict monogamy and Hot monogamy Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com | jessicaesfandiary.com • Youtube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary • Asking for a friend (AFAF) Question Form • Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Jess takes us back to her last vacation in Asia when she and Pasha decided to have sex every single day of their 4 weeks together.. Jess talks about what led them to make this decision and why they took up on this "challenge." She shares what they learn from this experience and also about each other. Jess talks about how daily responsibilities can get the best out of you and how falling into the routine can be exciting in new different spaces. In this episode of Open Late: • The downfall of familiarity with your partner • Understanding and integrating foreplay all day long • The many ways she spices it up • The health benefits of having sex on daily Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com | jessicaesfandiary.com • Youtube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary • Asking for a friend (AFAF) Question Form • Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices