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Join lawyer/wine explorer, Tom Massey, in the Cellar Door to hear the stories of the people and wineries in the wonderful world of wine. Tom is joined by winery owners, wine makers and other wine personalities to hear and share their stories, the stories of the wineries and the stories of the wines. It's a podcast about where it all came from and where it's all going.

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Join lawyer/wine explorer, Tom Massey, in the Cellar Door to hear the stories of the people and wineries in the wonderful world of wine. Tom is joined by winery owners, wine makers and other wine personalities to hear and share their stories, the stories of the wineries and the stories of the wines. It's a podcast about where it all came from and where it's all going.

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English


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Ireland, Melbourne, and MasterChef: The Journey of Phil Conway

2/28/2026
Send a text Phil Conway embraced adventure and the unknown when he moved from Ireland to Melbourne in Australia. Phil describes a love of food from an early age, a love and passion that placed him on an inevitable collision course with wine. These passions took him across the globe while also launching him onto the set of Australia’s masterchef. Phil describes his passion for food and wine as extensions of himself rather than descriptions of what he does or his occupation. Food and wine are central to his entire life. In this conversation, we discuss Phil’s role as wine buyer for Barrel and Batch, purchase trends in Melbourne, his journey from Ireland's Galway to Melbourne and Phil corrects some misconceptions I have about everything Masterchef. An extremely fun conversation. A huge thanks to Phil for joining me. Support the show

Duration:00:54:04

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Green Shoots for Australian Wine: In Conversation with Will Taylor

2/21/2026
Send a text Will Taylor is one of the most insightful voices in Australian Wine - and its not hard to see why. His perspective is as unique as it is dialed in. As the managing partner of the wine group at Finlayson’s law, he spends his days analysing the aspects of the wine trade and industry that get the least attention - the least sexy aspects of the trade, that are the most important when it comes to building a viable trade and industry. In this chat I get to ask Will about his key takeaways from 2025, while he also unpacks what he perceives to be necessary to sprout the green shoots that will place the national industry on an upward trajectory. As always, an absolute pleasure and privilege talking with Will Taylor, a huge thanks to Will for joining me. Support the show

Duration:00:39:18

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Energy, Drive and Spunk - capturing Cyndal Petty

2/14/2026
Send a text Cyndal Petty has spunk. She describes her drive and oodles of energy from an early age, her parents placing her in the gymnastics arena and her early success in it until injury caused her to pivot. But the foundations of drive and dedication had set hard, and when Cyndal found herself as an apprentice chef at age 15 years old, it was only a matter of time before she set her eyes on a new goal and shot out in pursuit. Her goal: to learn and absorb everything she could about wine. Fast forward some years and Cyndal has become a multidimensional force: she writes, presents, consults and curates. Most importantly, she works tirelessly and endlessly to hone her skills and improve. This was an extremely fun conversation with someone who is backing herself to achieve exciting things. A massive thanks to Cyndal for joining me on the CDP. Support the show

Duration:01:06:30

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Elegance, Obscurity, and 2% Exports: Daniel Sangermani's mission to showcase Swiss wine

2/7/2026
Send us a text Daniel Sangermani has embraced the challenge of bringing the prized wines of Switzerland to the sun kissed shores of Australia. Switzerland exports less than 2% of its total production but consumes the 4th most wine per person of any country in the world. Many, if not most people, particularly in Australia, have little familiarity with Switzerland's deep and historic wine culture, its six wine regions, and its approximately 320 grape varieties that they use to craft some of the prettiest and most elegant wines I have tasted in recent memory. Building awareness of a product and industry in a market with next to no awareness of it is indeed an unenviable task. However Daniel is indeed the man for it. His story is as incredible as his many diverse skill sets, and his passion for Swiss wine is contagious. In 2025 Daniel launched Invidia Wines, Invidia being Italian for envy. I think we will see a lot from Daniel in the coming months and years. From my perspective I am indeed envious of the magic Daniel is bringing to our shores. But my envy is out-shon by the gratitude I have to Daniel for taking the time to sit with me and record an incredible conversation about his journey from Ticino in southern Switzerland to the Australian Shores and the epic that has culminated in him setting up Invidia Wines.. A huge thanks to Daniel for joining me on the CDP. Support the show

Duration:01:39:27

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Looking under the hood of the Nuriootpa High Vines and Wines Program with Milly Hoffmann and Richard Mattner

1/31/2026
Send us a text I was lucky enough to spend the New Year in South Australia, dividing my time between the Adelaide Hills and the Barossa Valley. while I was in the Barossa, I took the opportunity to call into Nuriootpa High School to record a third - and final - chapter on a school project that is as innovative as it is interesting. I’m joined once again by Milly Hoffmann, and this time by a special guest: her wine mentor, Richard Mattner - who also happens to be Head Winemaker at Pepperjack Wines, part of the Treasury Wine Estates stable. Richard reflects on his involvement in the early precursor program that would eventually evolve into the school’s now-established Vines and Wines program, and on what it means to help shape the next generation of potential wine industry talent. We also taste through several of the students’ 2024 releases - wines that aren’t just educational exercises, but fully realised bottlings that are available on the market that I think are value for money. Taken together, it’s a conversation about education, mentorship, and the long view of wine: how skills are passed on, how confidence is built, and how a school project in the Barossa can quietly produce wines that deserve to be taken seriously. Support the show

Duration:00:41:01

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Gordon Little of Little Peacock Wine Imports - Reflections on the 2025 US market and looking ahead

1/24/2026
Send us a text I last spoke to Gordon Little of Little Peacock Wine imports as the final episode to the 2024 season. When asked how the 2024 year had been, I distinctly remember him describing it as “weird”. Gordon and I have stayed in touch, with occasional correspondence, and we thought it might be both fun and interesting to reconvene at the start of 2026 to get his hot takes on the 2025 season and projections (if at all possible) for 2026. As expected, his comments on the US market are interesting, forensic and steeped in experience. Gordon has been surfing the complex and competitive US market since 2011 and I am delighted to share that 2025 proved to be their most successful year to date. However, everyone will be acutely aware of the added complexities that look like they will continue to play out over the coming years, making predictions nigh-on impossible. Regardless, however it is beyond encouraging to know the Australian market has champions like Gordon out there doing incredibly hard work on the ground and relaying vital information. As always it was an honour and a privilege chatting with Gordon a huge thanks to Gordon Little of Little Peacock Wine imports for joining me on the CDP. Support the show

Duration:00:39:21

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The Plight of the Riverland and Sparking a Riverland Revolution

1/18/2026
Send us a text In this first episode of the New Year, I chat with Brendan Carter on his recent documentary covering the plight of the Riverland and his thoughts on navigating the way forward. Support the show

Duration:00:28:18

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Pinot on the Edge: Liam Van Pelt and the Magic of Ashton Hills

12/6/2025
Send us a text Today on The Cellar Door Podcast, I’m joined by Liam Van Pelt, winemaker at the legendary Ashton Hills. I first met Liam at the cellar door, where he, his sister, and the world’s coolest dog poured a lineup that completely reset my expectations: sparkling, Chardonnay, Pinot Noir, Gamay, and a tour through one of the highest, coldest, wettest pockets of the Hills. In this episode, we dig into what makes that site so distinctive, why Piccadilly Valley fruit carries such a signature, and how Liam works in a region where disease pressure, altitude, and climate make every vintage a battle but a battle worth fighting. We talk Pinot Noir, how Ashton Hills blends to build perfume, spice, and depth. We explore Chardonnay, Liam’s current “favourite child,” and why he thinks the Piccadilly Valley may be Australia’s most exciting source of cool-climate expressions. And we dive into the rise of Gamay in the Hills and the momentum behind this increasingly bulletproof, joyously fragrant variety. Liam also shares his own journey, from Broken Hill to hospitality to almost walking away from wine entirely, until a vintage with the legend Andrew Thomo Thomas reignited his spark and a fateful meeting with Stephen George changed his trajectory. Today, he’s carrying forward one of Australia’s great Pinot legacies with instinct, patience, and quiet determination. This is Liam’s story. A massive thanks to Liam for joining me on the CDP. Support the show

Duration:00:53:57

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Inside the Halliday Wine Companion with Katrina Butler

11/22/2025
Send us a text Today on The Cellar Door Podcast, I’m joined by someone whose work shapes how Australia understands its own wine: Katrina Butler, Head of Tasting at the Halliday Wine Companion. Katrina arrives at a busy moment, preparing the next edition of the Companion, fresh off the latest awards season, and deep in the yearly cycle of tasting thousands of wines from across the country. In this episode, she lifts the lid on how the Companion is actually put together: blind tastings, regional specialists, the shortlisting process, and how major awards are decided. We also explore the evolution of the Companion itself, from a single, iconic book to a multi-platform wine media brand, and what it means to communicate wine for the consumer in a rapidly changing media landscape. Katrina shares insights from her own tasting regions, including the energy coming out of the Riverland and the classic expressions emerging from Kangaroo Island. And she tells the story of her own path into wine, from pastry chef to writer to leading one of Australia’s most influential tasting programs. A huge thanks to Katrina for joining me on the CDP. Support the show

Duration:01:00:33

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David LeMire MW: Six Lessons for Smarter Wine Marketing

11/15/2025
Send us a text It’s been a while between drinks - but David LeMire MW has been busy flying the flag for Australian wine around the world and returns to The Cellar Door Podcast after a whirlwind year that’s seen him travelling through Portugal’s Douro and Dão regions, opening a new award-winning tasting room at Tolpuddle Vineyard, and collecting yet another round of trophies for Shaw + Smith and Tolpuddle Chardonnay. In this episode, we dig into David’s recent article inspired by marketing guru Mark Ritson - unpacking what it really means to market wine well. From the discipline behind good strategy, to why sometimes the smartest move is deciding what not to do, we explore six key lessons every wine business can learn from. An absolute privilege chatting with David and massive thanks to him for joining me on the CDP. Support the show

Duration:00:25:54

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The Hidden Gem of Geographe - with Pippa Nielsen

11/8/2025
Send us a text We are about to head to Western Australia - but not to Margaret River. We’re going a little further north to discover one of the state’s best-kept secrets: the Geographe wine region. My guest is Pippa Nielsen, co-owner of Vineyard 28, a producer that’s made its mark by championing Italian varieties like Nebbiolo, Dolcetto, and Fiano. Pippa shares how this coastal-meets-hillside region is carving out its own identity - balancing tradition, innovation, and a deep sense of community. We talk about Geographe’s rich history, its bold alternative varieties, and how collaboration, not competition, is driving the region forward. It’s a story of pioneers, passion, and a piece of Western Australia that’s quietly redefining what great wine can be. Here’s my conversation with Pippa Nielsen of Vineyard 28. Support the show

Duration:00:39:35

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On the road with Joe!

11/5/2025
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Duration:00:30:53

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Jack Burston is Breaking Boundaries in Coonawarra

11/1/2025
Send us a text We are going deep into the heart of Coonawarra, but through a lens few could have imagined: blockchain, NFTs, and quality Coonawarra wine. My guest is Jack Burston: former Goldman Sachs banker turned unlikely vineyard owner and innovator who’s shaking up the Australian wine scene with a project that fuses old-world craftsmanship with cutting-edge technology. Jack’s journey began on what locals teasingly call the “wrong side of the railway line,” where his label *Over the Line* was born. But it’s not just a great name, it’s a story about challenging assumptions, championing organics, and rethinking how wine reaches the glass. From a chance partnership with veteran wine maker Peter Douglas of Penfolds and Wynns fame to an exciting collaboration with Club de Vin, Jack’s work sits at the crossroads of tradition and tech. We talk about Coonawarra’s identity as the spiritual home of Cabernet, the rebirth of its vineyards, and how the future of fine wine might just live on the blockchain. This was a thoroughly enjoyable conversation, A huge thanks to Jack for joining me. Support the show

Duration:01:08:46

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On the road with Joe!

10/28/2025
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Duration:00:15:47

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Nuriootpa High School's big Texas Trip - the Epilogue

10/26/2025
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Duration:00:29:14

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The Scholar and the Storyteller: Ed Cavanagh on the History of the Cellar Door

10/18/2025
Send us a text Ed Cavanagh’s wine writing stands apart. He somehow fuses the flair of a journalist with the depth and precision of a scholar — a rare combination, but then again, few writers in the wine world have a background quite like his. Many of you will know Ed from his work across the Limestone Coast wine industry, or from his time in cellar doors throughout South and Western Australia. But his story stretches much further — from the world of law and academia, including a Cambridge Fellowship, to the vineyards and communities that now shape his writing. When Ed fell in love with the wine industry, he brought with him a remarkable set of tools — a sharp analytical mind, a storyteller’s instinct, and a genuine curiosity about people and place. It’s no surprise that his work has been recognised, recently earning him a shortlist spot at the Australian Wine Communicator Awards. Anyone who has read Ed’s writing knows how he operates: he doesn’t just tell the story of wine — he digs into its context, the politics, the culture, and the consequences that often ripple beneath the surface. It was an absolute privilege to sit down with Ed to unpack one of his recent pieces. There’s so much more to explore, and I’ve no doubt this will be the first of many conversations with him. But for now, a huge thanks to Ed Cavanagh for joining me. Support the show

Duration:00:54:39

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The Future of Riesling Is in Good Hands: Keeda Zilm and Vickery Wines

10/11/2025
Send us a text This weekend I got a text from John Hesketh, letting me know that Keeda Zilm had done it again. Keeda, and her Vickery Riesling, struck again at the Adelaide Wine Show, walking away with a back of accolades. Everyone seems to be in agreement that Keeda Zilm is the capable custodian of something very special. Named in honour of the late, great John Vickery, often described as the Max Schubert of Australian white wine, the Vickery label has become synonymous with exceptional dry, flavour-driven Riesling and a legacy that helped shape the nation’s understanding of this remarkable variety. In this conversation, Keeda joined me from Adelaide to share how she’s carrying that torch, balancing tradition and innovation, working with growers across Watervale, Polish Hill, and Eden Valley, and even exploring new frontiers in Tasmania. We talk about the technical precision behind dry Riesling, the challenges of climate and water, the future of the style in Australia, and Keeda own remarkable journey, to becoming one of the most respected voices in Australian winemaking. It’s a conversation that dives deep into craftsmanship, culture, and the quiet power of a variety that has always told the truth of its place. It was an honour and privilege to have Keeda on the CDP, a massive thanks to Keeda for joining me. Support the show

Duration:01:00:32

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On the road with Joe!

10/7/2025
Send us a text Joe Fattorini shares some secrets on how to maximize your entertainment value as a presenter during a wine tasting! Support the show

Duration:00:15:18

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US Markets and Bhutan's Bold Vintage

10/4/2025
Send us a text Ladies and gentlemen, he’s back — Michael Juergens: Orange County finance consultant, wine industry pioneer, and one of our most colourful guests. Michaels back to share an update on the current state of the US wine economy and the progress with the Bhutan Wine Co., with updates on their very first auction and fresh insights that highlight just how exciting this project has become. As always, it’s a rollercoaster of a conversation with Michael, and I’m thrilled to have him back on the show. A huge thanks to him for joining me. Support the show

Duration:00:30:27

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Brendan Carter on challenging Australian wine culture

9/27/2025
Send us a text I first came across Unico Zelo almost a decade ago, in a wine shop in Kansas City. The owners poured me a skin-contact white from South Australia, a wine I’d never seen before. I was immediately struck by its vibrant label, its unusual blend, and its perfectly fitting name: Esoterico. That was my first introduction to Brendan Carter and his work at Unico Zelo. Since then, I’ve watched in awe as the brand has expanded, pivoted, adapted, and expanded again - a cycle that has become part of its DNA. What began as a cult label is now much more: an international presence, with Bottle Shock TV bringing stories, insights, and entertainment to a global audience, and a wine bar experience that is immersive, unpretentious, and undeniably fun. At the heart of it all are Brendan and his wife, Laura, who has been alongside him since the very beginning. But Brendan isn’t one to keep the spotlight for himself. He consistently highlights the next generation of talent - Henry, Noah, Simon, and the wider Bottle Shock and Unico Zelo teams - emphasising them as an integral part of the future. Brendan’s leadership, vision, and infectious energy have left a clear mark both in Australia and abroad since the inception of Unico Zelo in 2012. After nearing a record two-hour conversation on the Cellar Door Podcast, I can honestly say Brendan is a confident, thoughtful visionary with the track record to prove that whatever he’s doing, it’s working. It was an absolute privilege to speak with him and hear his insights. A huge thanks to Brendan Carter for joining me. Support the show

Duration:01:50:40