
Sports Management Podcast
Sports & Recreation Podcasts
Where top sports managers share experiences from and passion for the sports management industry.
Location:
United States
Description:
Where top sports managers share experiences from and passion for the sports management industry.
Language:
English
Episodes
#239 The $100M Sports Investment Thesis | Kyle Israel, Momentous Sports
3/12/2026
Welcome to episode 239 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Kyle Israel, co-founder of , a $100M fund investing at the intersection of sports and real estate.
Kyle shares why his firm is focusing on middle-market teams instead of billion-dollar franchises, how mixed-use developments are reshaping club economics, and why women's sports and secondary markets represent the next wave of growth.
In this episode, we spoke about:
Timestamps:
00:00 From Quarterback to Sports Investor
02:22 The $100M Sports Fund Explained
04:47 Why Avoid the Big Leagues
06:05 What Is an SPV
07:26 The Explosion of Women's Sports Valuations
08:38 The Hardest Decision in Sports Real Estate
11:36 The 50+1 Rule and Europe Challenges
14:11 Why Secondary Markets Win
17:08 Lessons from Sporting JAX
19:54 The 3–5 Year Vision for Momentous
22:07 Athlete Identity and the Transition Struggle
29:59 The Neurochemistry of Retirement
33:12 Leadership Lessons from Sports
40:07 How to Stand Out in Sports Business
47:04 Why Networking Changes Everything
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Duration:00:50:47
#238 Inside the Mind of Elite Athletes | Dr. Alicia Naser, Ph.D., BCBA-D
3/9/2026
Welcome to episode 238 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Dr. Alicia Naser, mental performance coach and founder of the Naser Institute for Behavioral Sport Psychology. She works with professional athletes in the NHL, ATP Tour and PGA, helping them optimize performance through behavioral science and mental training.
In this episode, we spoke about:
Timestamps
0:00 Mental Performance in Elite Sport
1:18 Dr. Alicia Naser Introduction
3:11 The Most Important Behavior for Athletes
5:21 Team vs Individual Sports Psychology
8:52 Control and Performance Mindset
10:11 Roger Federer & Performance Perspective
11:20 Djokovic on Emotional Recovery
12:56 Superstitions in Professional Sport
14:50 Henrik Lundqvist's Routine
16:15 Assessing Underperformance
17:51 Biggest Mental Roadblocks
20:05 Social Media Pressure on Athletes
23:30 Building a Personal Brand Online
28:34 How She Started Working in Hockey
34:04 From Autism Research to Elite Sport
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Duration:00:49:45
#237 High Performance, Female Health & the Future of Women's Football | Dawn Scott
3/5/2026
Welcome to episode 237of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Dawn Scott, one of the most influential high performance leaders in women's football. She has worked with England, led performance for the U.S. Women's National Team during two World Cup wins and an Olympic gold, and now supports global development through FIFA.
In this episode, we spoke about:
Time stamps:
00:00 High Performance Defined
01:13 Motivation vs Consistency
03:10 Entering Women's Football in 2001
07:22 Then vs Now in Sports Science
09:28 Misinformation in Female Nutrition
13:00 The 6% Research Gap
14:33 Boots, ACL & Female Anatomy
16:43 Return to Play Postpartum
20:29 Building Performance Departments
23:21 England Highlights & Growth
26:09 Moving to the U.S. National Team
30:12 Olympic Gold & World Cup Wins
33:50 Investment & Staffing in Women's Sport
37:28 The Future of Women's Football
39:05 Advice for Young Professionals
40:00 Outro
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Duration:00:43:05
#235 From Athens to the Bundesliga: Theo Dedes on Modern Football Leadership, Resilience & The Manager Mindset
2/26/2026
Welcome to episode 235 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Theo Dedes, a UEFA Pro License coach who recently led TSG Hoffenheim's women's team in Germany.
From growing up in Athens to coaching at the highest level in European football, Theo shares what modern leadership really looks like, why empathy beats authority in today's game, and what it takes to survive - and thrive - in one of the most pressure-filled industries in the world.
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Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
00:40 The UEFA Pro License Explained
02:01 Eligible for Champions League
02:36 The Coach as Manager
04:33 The Loneliness of Leadership
05:49 Controlling the Uncontrollable
07:29 Managing Friction Inside the Squad
08:51 Handling Weekly Pressure
10:22 Being a Young Head Coach
12:31 Coaching as Brand & Identity
15:13 Greece vs Germany Leadership Styles
17:25 The Coaching Odyssey
19:50 Why Germany Felt Fair
21:17 Learning from Termination
31:15 Advice for Future Pro Coaches
33:00 Outro
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Duration:00:35:20
#234 The NIL Revolution: Why Athlete Branding & Identity Will Define the Future of College Sports | Stephen Bienko
2/23/2026
Welcome to episode 234 of Sports Management Podcast.
College sports has changed forever. NIL is here, brands are everywhere, and student athletes are now entrepreneurs whether they like it or not. But are they actually prepared?
Today I'm joined by Stephen Bienko, co-founder of 42U, former dual-sport athlete and life coach.
We dive into:
And much more!
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00:00 Intro
00:28 What 42U Is Building in the NIL Era
02:03 Transferable Skills Beyond "Hardworking Athlete"
05:16 Athlete Identity & Overthinking Performance
08:45 NIL Should Have Existed Years Ago
10:35 Soft Skills vs Hard Skills in the AI Era
12:18 Why Identity Impacts Performance
14:21 Why Athletes Are Underprepared for NIL
17:37 Why Most NIL Partnerships Fail
20:33 Brand First, Deals Second
23:41 The Power of Athlete IP & Social Media
29:31 The Future of NIL and High School Athletes
32:59 Putting "Butts in Seats" Through Athlete Brands
39:44 The Decathlete Mindset in Business
49:18 Why Now Is the Best Time to Enter Sports
55:00 Outro
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Duration:00:45:41
#233 Why the Future of Football & Sports Tech Is in Africa | Gloria Mariwa
2/19/2026
Welcome to episode 233 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Gloria Mariwa - a footballer, professional freestyler, digital creator known as 14th Gunner and founder of Wichesa. At just 19, she's building the future of African women's football at the intersection of sports, tech, and community.
We spoke about:
And much more!
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Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
01:00 Building 14th Gunner
04:30 Growing Women's Football in Kenya
07:37 Why Women's Sports Must Build Their Own Model
08:30 The Future of Sports Tech & AI
09:41 Creators vs Traditional Media
12:03 Why YouTube Could Win Sports Streaming
14:31 Copying the West? Or Building Africa's Own Model
16:57 The Kenyan Sports Landscape
18:36 The Meaning Behind Wichesa
19:34 Grassroots Impact in Women's Football
24:46 University or Startup Life?
26:48 Monetizing as a Young Creator
27:53 Advice for Young Sports Professionals
30:29 Redefining Sports Tech
32:23 Invest in African Women's Sports
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Duration:00:35:59
#232 Break Into Sports: Networking, Saying Yes & Building Your Own Sports Business | JP Lutz
2/16/2026
Welcome to episode 232 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is JP Lutz - a former Philadelphia Eagles executive turned professor, entrepreneur, and cancer survivor.
We spoke about:
And much more!
This one is packed with practical advice for anyone who wants to work in sports and a powerful life lesson you won't forget.
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Time stamps:
00:00 From Working Elevators to the NFL
04:25 Why You Must Say Yes Early in Your Career
06:24 Creating Your Own Luck in Sports
08:10 How to Network the Right Way
12:53 Do You Need a Degree to Work in Sports?
17:11 The Magic of Game Day
19:52 $5 an Hour and Moving Back Home
22:34 Transitioning from Pro Sports to Higher Ed
23:56 Starting a Sports Business from a Basement
25:27 Soft Skills That Actually Matter
29:19 A Cancer Diagnosis at 46
32:39 The Power of Being Proactive About Health
34:30 AI, Analytics & The Future of Sports Jobs
36:55 Why You Should Consider Entrepreneurship
41:45 Career Advice: Follow Your Heart and Say Yes
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Duration:00:44:47
#231 Why Promotion & Relegation Will Transform US Soccer, Brett Johnson
2/12/2026
Welcome to episode 231 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is one of the most ambitious football investors in the world.
Brett Johnson is the founder of Benevolent Capital, owner of multiple football clubs including Phoenix Rising, Rhode Island FC, and part of the Ipswich Town ownership group.
In this episode:
And much more!
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Time stamps:
00:00 From Analyst to Football Owner
00:20 Why Phoenix Needed a Team
01:17 The 1994 World Cup Thesis
02:06 Why the US Must Perform
03:39 Ipswich's Back-to-Back Promotions
04:43 How to Run a Club Properly
05:26 Why Multi-Club Ownership Wins
06:44 Promotion/Relegation in the U.S.
09:02 Building a $140M Stadium
11:20 Creating a Fan Base from Scratch
14:01 Inside Benevolent Capital
15:32 Why Youth Sports Is the Next Goldmine
22:39 Advice for Sports Entrepreneurs
26:25 The Dark Days in Phoenix
28:13 Almost Losing Rhode Island
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Duration:00:31:13
#230 Why Most Soccer Clubs Lose Money | Matt Driver
2/9/2026
Welcome to episode 230 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest has lived football from every angle - player, coach, owner, executive, and advisor.
Matt Driver is the founder of Soccer Universities and Football Club Advisory Group, and he's worked across Europe and the U.S. helping clubs move from survival mode to scalable success.
In this episode, we talk about:
And much more! This is a masterclass in the business of football.
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Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
01:38 Why College Soccer Doesn't Create Pros
03:18 The Wake-Up Call Playing La Liga Clubs
05:30 Creating Real Player Pathways
08:10 Why Most Clubs Are Structurally Broken
11:13 A Bulgarian Club Case Study
15:09 Why Vertical Silos Kill Clubs
16:41 What American Sports Get Right
18:30 Why Fans Jump Between Sports
20:08 Why "We've Always Done It This Way" Fails
26:21 Turning Fan Phones Into Revenue
30:23 Monetizing Club Assets
35:47 Why Fans Must Be Entertained
55:26 Career Advice for Sports Professionals
01:05:54 Why the USL Could Explode Next
01:10:00 Outro
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Duration:01:15:12
#229 Inside the IOC: How the Olympic Games Are Built Years Before the Torch Is Lit | Christian Klaue
2/5/2026
Welcome to episode 229 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest has been at the center of that work for over a decade. Christian Klaue is Director of Corporate Communications and Public Affairs at the International Olympic Committee.
In this episode, we go behind the scenes of how the Olympic Games are planned, positioned, communicated, and ultimately delivered - from Milano Cortina to LA28 and beyond.
If you've ever wondered how the biggest sporting event on earth actually comes together, this conversation is for you.
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Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
01:31 Life Inside the IOC Right Before the Games
02:45 What Olympic Communications Really Do
04:47 Why Positioning Matters More Than Reacting
05:06 Working on Multiple Olympic Games at Once
06:55 Why Milano Cortina 2026 Is Different
07:52 Legacy Beats New Construction
09:13 Avoiding Olympic "White Elephants"
10:12 Designing the Athlete Experience
11:22 Why the Olympic Torch Changes Everything
13:32 How the Torch Relay Really Works
15:21 The Power of Opening Ceremonies
20:09 Christian Klaue's Career Journey
27:42 Leading Through Olympic Crises
41:51 Advice for a Career in Sports Communication
43:00 Outro
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Duration:00:47:33
#228 Why Women's Football Is the Best Sports Investment of the Next Decade | John P. Reynal, CEO The Women's Cup
2/2/2026
Welcome to episode 228 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is John P Reynal, the President & CEO of The Women's Cup - one of the most ambitious global platforms in women's football.
John has spent his career building sports properties across continents and in this conversation, he makes a bold case: women's football isn't charity - it's one of the most undervalued growth opportunities in sports.
We spoke about:
And much more!
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Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
02:21 Why women's football is a massive investment opportunity
04:18 "Women's football is a business"
04:50 What over-investing really looks like
06:53 Building a premium brand through experience
08:21 Fixing the production problem in women's football
10:07 How media rights unlock real growth
11:09 Why the US women's football model is different
13:30 The danger of women's teams as afterthoughts
15:45 Rethinking how women's football is marketed
21:58 Why investors are flooding into women's football
23:00 From $1M to $150M franchise valuations
26:01 Latin America's untapped audience power
31:01 The audience shift every club must prepare for
32:43 Why Brazil 2027 will change everything
45:00 Outro
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Duration:00:46:44
#227 Ultimate Hoops: Turning Rec Basketball Into a Pro Experience, Alan Arlt
1/26/2026
Welcome to episode 227 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Alan Arlt, founder of Ultimate Hoops and co-founder of ARLT Consulting.
Alan built a recreational basketball league into a highly-engaged sports product with stats, highlights, and experiences that made everyday players feel like pros and he sold it with an 18x return in under two years.
In this episode, we spoke about:
What makes a sports product truly 'sticky'
How to scale without losing quality
How AI is changing the future of participation sports.
And much more!
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Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
00:58 Building "sticky" sports products with ARLT Consulting
02:16 From sports nerd to sports entrepreneur
02:59 The Ultimate Hoops idea (treat everyone like Kobe)
03:42 From 6 teams to 40 teams in under a year
03:42 Acquired by Lifetime Fitness (18 months in)
04:26 The Carmelo Anthony moment ("I think I'm done")
05:11 The 18x return (and why he didn't plan an exit)
05:58 The "sticky product" flywheel (daily engagement)
06:54 Passion vs practicality (unit economics matter)
08:22 The 2-step decision process (gut → diligence)
09:46 Why athlete partnerships are everything (B2A mindset)
11:51 AI changed everything (stats + highlights at scale)
13:28 How ARLT uses AI with clients today
14:18 Why this model works for every sport
15:06 The golden rule (people want to feel special)
15:45 The post-game interview that proved the concept
17:24 Why AI will create "1,000 Ultimate Hoops"
19:53 The mindset shift (leaving Discovery to take the leap)
21:36 Why side hustles are the new advantage
22:50 The biggest founder mistakes (too fast vs too slow)
24:10 Best advice for founders (just get started)
25:47 How to use AI without losing the human edge
27:07 Leadership style (do every job, stay in the weeds)
30:28 Hiring without a vacuum (team fit matters)
32:11 Scaling too fast (when it stopped feeling like Ultimate Hoops)
33:02 COVID shutdown (the hardest stretch)
35:25 Letting 85% of the team go (and rebuilding)
37:02 Guest recommendations (SportsVisio + AIM Sports Group)
39:00 Outro
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Duration:00:39:00
#226 How Sports Teams Should Use Data | Neil Schwartz, SBRnet
1/19/2026
Welcome to episode 226 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Neil Schwartz, President of SBRnet, one of the leading sports business data providers focused on fan behavior, monetization, and engagement.
In this episode, we break down the difference between passive fans and active fans, why storytelling is the real skill behind data, and how teams can turn insights into revenue across tickets, merch, sports betting and more.
Let's get into it.
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Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
00:59 What sports teams can learn from Disney
01:50 What SBRnet does: business-side sports data
02:46 Doing data before data was cool
04:25 Data is now traded like oil + early pushback from execs
07:28 Black box data vs transparent methodology
08:44 "If you only use your own data, you repeat the same mistakes"
09:29 Data is like making soup
11:16 SWOT analysis as a decision framework
12:57 The hardest question: "Why?"
16:41 Cross-fandom + cross-category sponsorship strategy
19:31 Active vs passive engagement explained
21:07 Neil's Dolphins example: passionate but passive fan behavior
22:49 Turning passive fans into active fans
25:08 Good data use is good storytelling
27:52 When teams reject data because of anecdotal bias
30:45 Privacy + anonymized data + integrity standards
35:14 Pandemic: removing live attendance questions to protect trend accuracy
37:15 AI fears + why people must stay in the decision-making equation
42:20 Career advice: internships + networking + better outreach emails
48:43 Sports gambling needs guardrails
52:31 Gambling growth plateau
53:19 Underage gambling problem
54:45 Guest recommendations
57:00 Outro
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Duration:00:58:11
#225 What Sports Teams Can Learn from Disney: Vance Morris on Fan Experience, Service & Pricing Power
1/12/2026
Welcome to episode 225 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Vance Morris, and in this episode we will uncover what sports teams can learn from Disney when it comes to service and fan experience.
We spoke about:
And much more!
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Time stamps:
00:00 Intro:
02:21 From factory security guard to Disney
03:32 Experience design in boring moments
05:50 Engaging fans on non-game days
07:25 Linertainment explained
08:44 What teams can do between purchase & game day
11:18 Reaching younger fans with physical mail
13:01 On-stage vs off-stage mindset
15:26 Attention to detail & perceived value
17:30 Tellable moments & word of mouth
19:44 Systems create freedom
22:34 Cost of keeping vs acquiring fans
24:27 Why he charges 40% more
28:57 "The bar is set so low"
31:23 Service standards disconnect
33:29 Hiring for service mindset
38:19 Major career setback & resilience
40:00 Outro
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Duration:00:42:36
#224 How Women's Football Really Grows: Ersel Aybasti on Agents, Structures & Sustainable Investment
1/5/2026
Welcome to episode 224 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Ersel Aybasti – a licensed FIFA-agent, founder of Analysis SportAgents and the author of The Women's Game: More Than Just a Game. Voices, Structures & Perspectives in Global Women's Football
We spoke about:
And much more!
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Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
01:47 Why football alone wasn't enough
03:38 Trust between player and agent
07:26 Holistic support beyond contracts
09:55 Becoming a licensed FIFA agent
12:58 Entering women's football
15:45 Why the book was written
17:35 28 voices shaping the women's game
21:41 Managing pressure, feedback & growth
27:31 Why women's football needs structure
30:37 How agents can close the gender gap
31:49 Advice for young professionals
34:12 Long-term values over short-term wins
36:00 Outro
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Duration:00:37:07
#223 Win Monday: How Paul Epstein Built a Global Leadership Movement Around One Weekly Habit
12/29/2025
Welcome to episode 223 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Paul Epstein, a leadership coach, former sports executive and the creator of the Win Monday movement.
Paul has worked with elite athletes, executives, and teams around the world, helping them build momentum through habits, identity, and purpose.
In this episode, we unpack:
And much more!
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Time stamps:
00:00 The 98% Monday momentum statistic
02:17 What it actually means to "win Monday"
06:07 Gym analogy: commitment over motivation
07:47 "Commitment begins when motivation ends"
11:43 The hero dedication concept
17:55 The Monday that changed Paul's life
24:52 Standards vs goals (win the long game)
33:44 Confidence formula: values × action
48:56 Vision of a global Win Monday movement
50:00 Outro
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Duration:00:52:25
#222 From Last-Round Pick to Pro Bowler: Blaine Bishop on Grit, Identity & Life After the NFL
12/22/2025
Welcome to episode 222 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Blaine Bishop – a former NFL player, 4-time pro bowler and a broadcasting host.
We spoke about:
And much more!
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Time stamps:
01:54 Drafted last & the chip on his shoulder
03:59 Why being doubted fueled his work ethic
05:51 Film study as a competitive advantage
09:15 "What do you have to lose?" mindset
14:24 First NFL start on Christmas Day
18:54 Super Bowl run & "team of destiny"
22:12 Making the Pro Bowl (unexpectedly)
25:00 Transition from NFL to broadcasting
28:16 Identity beyond being an athlete
36:04 Advice for young people entering sports
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Duration:00:38:56
#221 How Glasgow City FC Is Building the Future of Women's Football | Stef McLoughlin
12/15/2025
Welcome to episode 221 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest is Stef McLoughlin, Head of Commercial at Glasgow City FC, the most successful women's football club in Scotland and one of the few elite clubs in Europe that is women-owned, women-led and fully independent.
Get ready to learn about:
And much more!
Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
00:22 What makes Glasgow City FC different
01:27 Using football as a vehicle for social change
03:28 Why women's clubs shouldn't be absorbed by men's teams
06:38 Purpose-driven partnerships explained
07:32 Dog-friendly stadiums & inclusive fan experiences
09:57 How Glasgow City avoids sportswashing
12:58 The "messy middle" of women's football
14:48 Why comparing revenues to men's football is a mistake
18:05 Building women-led commercial ecosystems
25:07 Entering football as an "angry feminist"
31:49 Outro
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Duration:00:34:00
#220 Olympic Power, Politics & the Future of Global Sport - Michael Payne
12/8/2025
Welcome to episode 220 of Sports Management Podcast.
Today's guest helped build the Olympic business model as we know it. Michael Payne is the former marketing director of the IOC, creator of the TOP sponsorship program, and widely regarded as the architect of modern sports marketing.
In this episode, we explore 50 years of global sport power, politics, money, and what the next 50 years could look like.
Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
00:34 Why he wrote the book & invented sports marketing
03:16 FIFA had four employees
07:43 Cold War & saving the Olympics
10:17 Bernie Ecclestone vs Samaranch
13:16 Politics weaponizing sport
15:22 Sportswashing debate (China & Saudi)
23:33 Trump, the World Cup & LA28
29:38 His wild predictions for sport
31:46 Avatar stadiums
34:12 Tech vs the soul of sport
38:26 Sustainability & white elephants
48:35 Advice for young professionals
50:18 Business lesson: problems vs solutions
53:54 How great negotiators really work
59:00 Outro
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Duration:00:40:21