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This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out. We do “adult” differently. -About Daren and Jenn- Jenn is a queer, Black feminist from Oakland. Daren is an introverted nerd and novelist from Anaheim. They are boo’ed up and have been since 2002 when they bonded over a mutual love of Brian McKnight’s “Never Felt This Way”, their favorite Brandy lyrics, and nineties TV like Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and Living Single. It was a shared obsession with Black cultural icons, histories, and artistry that drew Jenn and Daren to one another even though they are actually completely different personality-wise. Jenn and Daren have always said to themselves, “Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a show?” Well, no major networks have reached out yet. So, until that happens, you can find the them here, sharing their views on race and culture and everything in between. They are young thirty-somethings who have been married since for over a decade. Jenn and Daren have three beautiful, brilliant, radical, snarky kids who play no games.

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This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out. We do “adult” differently. -About Daren and Jenn- Jenn is a queer, Black feminist from Oakland. Daren is an introverted nerd and novelist from Anaheim. They are boo’ed up and have been since 2002 when they bonded over a mutual love of Brian McKnight’s “Never Felt This Way”, their favorite Brandy lyrics, and nineties TV like Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and Living Single. It was a shared obsession with Black cultural icons, histories, and artistry that drew Jenn and Daren to one another even though they are actually completely different personality-wise. Jenn and Daren have always said to themselves, “Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a show?” Well, no major networks have reached out yet. So, until that happens, you can find the them here, sharing their views on race and culture and everything in between. They are young thirty-somethings who have been married since for over a decade. Jenn and Daren have three beautiful, brilliant, radical, snarky kids who play no games.

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English


Episodes
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S8E10 - Building the World We Want for Ourselves

12/23/2025
In the final episode of season 8, Jenn and Daren explore the relentless pursuit of dreams and the journey to fulfillment. They share their personal experiences of moving to Maryland, overcoming challenges, and ultimately finding happiness in their new life. Most importantly, they emphasize the importance of perseverance and the joy that comes from achieving one's goals, despite the difficulties faced along the way.

Duration:00:33:51

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S8E9 - Black Food and Gender Roles

11/25/2025
In this episode of "That Black Couple," Jenn and Daren return after a break with a discussion on the intersection of Black food and gender roles. They share personal anecdotes about their relationships with food, exploring how their upbringing shaped their culinary skills and perspectives. Then they delve into the cultural significance of cooking within the Black community, emphasizing the need to move beyond traditional gender norms that often dictate who should prepare meals. They highlight the importance of food as a survival skill and a means of fostering community connections, particularly in light of the decline in Black farm ownership. They encourage listeners to embrace a more inclusive approach to food preparation and to recognize the spiritual and communal aspects of sharing meals. Tune in for a celebration of the richness of Black culinary heritage and the power of collective nourishment.

Duration:00:32:49

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S8E8 - Black August for a New Generation

8/30/2025
In this episode, the hosts discuss the significance of Black August, emphasizing the importance of consistency in activism, the historical context of Black liberation movements, and the need for education and in-person connections in the fight for justice. They reflect on the challenges posed by social media and the necessity of courage in activism, while also highlighting the ongoing struggles for liberation and the power of community engagement.

Duration:00:30:03

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S8E7 - Moving Away From Toxic Relationships

8/30/2025
In this episode, Dr. Jenn and Daren discuss the importance of moving away from toxic relationships in various aspects of life, including friendships, family, and work. They explore how personal growth can lead to the end of certain relationships and emphasize the need for accountability, boundaries, and self-worth in maintaining healthy connections. The conversation highlights the signs of toxicity and the necessity of demanding better treatment from others.

Duration:00:39:05

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S8E6 - The Roots of Toxic Masculinity in Black Communities

7/12/2025
In this episode of “That Black Couple,” Jenn and Daren delve into the complexities of toxic masculinity within Black communities. They discuss the impact of patriarchy on Black men, including the emotional struggles they face in unpacking societal expectations and behaviors. Further, they highlight the crucial role women play in challenging these toxic behaviors. Through personal reflections and references to influential thinkers like bell hooks, they emphasize the importance of community accountability and emotional expression in fostering healthier relationships and promoting change. Reference Material * The Will to Change - bell hooks: https://amzn.to/4lXgiat * Sister Outsider - Audre Lorde: https://amzn.to/46cNSEN

Duration:00:51:37

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S8E5 - Parenting While Black and Polyamorous

6/23/2025
In this episode of That Black Couple, Jenn and Daren discuss the complexities of parenting while being polyamorous, addressing common misconceptions and societal concerns. They explore the benefits of polyamorous households for children, emphasizing open communication, community support, and the importance of diverse experiences. The conversation highlights the need for honesty and authenticity in parenting, ultimately showcasing how polyamory can contribute to raising well-adjusted, happy children. Reference Material * What About the Children?! Children in Polyamorous Families: Stigma, Myths, and Realities - https://www.whatdidshesay.ca/2019/03/25/what-about-the-children-children-in-polyamorous-families-stigma-myths-and-realities/ * “It’s someone who means a lot to me, and who means even more to mom”: Children’s views on the romantic partners of their polyamorous parents - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11521776/ * Polyamorous Relationships: Children’s Perceptions - https://inrs.ca/en/news/polyamorous-relationships-childrens-perceptions/ * A WHOLE VILLAGE: POLYAMOROUS FAMILIES AND THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILD STANDARD - https://community.lawschool.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Sheff-et-al.-final.pdf

Duration:00:42:19

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S8E4 - Celebrating 19 Years of Marriage

5/25/2025
In this anniversary episode of That Black Couple, Jenn and Darren celebrate 19 years of marriage and 22 years of being together. They dive into the dynamics of their non-traditional relationship, discussing their unique identities as a monogamous person and a polyamorous person. The couple shares insights on communication, the importance of understanding one's own needs, and how to navigate love and relationships outside of societal norms. Join them as they reflect on their journey and provide valuable tips for anyone interested in exploring polyamory.

Duration:00:45:08

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S8E3 - “The Black Legacy Model”

5/11/2025
In this episode of That Black Couple Podcast, Jenn and Daren dive into the thought-provoking concept of the Black Legacy Model, inspired by a viral TikTok series. They explore the four pillars that define this model: income, labor, community and family investment, and career flexibility. The couple reflects on how these ideas resonate with their own 19-year journey of partnership, emphasizing the importance of mutual respect and teamwork in relationships. As they unpack each pillar, Jenn and Daren discuss the challenges faced by Black couples in a society that often imposes traditional norms that don't serve them. They candidly share their experiences of navigating gender roles, pooling resources, and the significance of supporting each other's individual growth. They challenge listeners to rethink conventional relationship dynamics and embrace a more collaborative approach. Join them for a rich conversation that not only highlights the realities of Black relationships but also offers insights into building a legacy rooted in love, partnership, and community.

Duration:00:26:29

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S8E2 - Our Journey from Cali to the East Coast

5/10/2025
In the second part of the season 8 opener, Jenn and Daren dive deep into the complexities of their relationship journey, revealing the pivotal moments that shaped their love story. They reflect on the early days of their romance, starting from their college years. The conversation takes a candid turn as they discuss the challenges they faced from family disapproval, particularly from Daren's father, who went to great lengths to deter their union. The couple reflects on their scrappy beginnings in Chicago, where they learned to rely on each other and build a future despite the odds. As they recount their experiences, Jenn and Daren emphasize the importance of choosing oneself and the power of true partnership. They share how their journey led them to create a life plan filled with dreams and aspirations, from starting a family to navigating career changes. They also share the struggles of parenthood, career shifts, and the societal expectations placed on them as a couple. Through it all, Jenn and Daren highlight how their commitment to each other's growth has been a cornerstone of their relationship, allowing them to thrive together in a world that often tries to pull them apart.

Duration:00:22:25

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S8E1 - Reintroducing That Black Couple

4/25/2025
In this 2-part episode, Jenn and Daren kick off Season 8 of That Black Couple Podcast with their first-ever video episode, allowing listeners to finally see their dynamic personalities in action. Join them for a heartfelt and humorous exploration of love, friendship, and the origins of That Black Couple. They reflect on their journey together, starting from their fateful meeting in the chicken line at the University of Southern California in 2002. They share the story of how they became best friends, navigating the challenges of college life while forming a deep bond. From trust falls to late-night video game sessions, they recount the moments that solidified their connection. They candidly discuss the complexities of their relationship, including the initial confusion and miscommunication that almost derailed their budding romance. Jenn and Daren emphasize the importance of authenticity in their relationship and how their shared experiences shaped them into the couple they are today. They tease the upcoming episodes that will delve deeper into their life together, including their move across the country and the adventures of parenting. Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ColoredConvosMedia FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Threads: www.Threads.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about being Black, Queer, Polyamourous, and Creative in an Anti-Black world. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Duration:00:22:00

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S7E10 - Year In Review: Doing Things Differently in 2025

1/30/2025
In this episode, Jenn and Daren celebrate the milestone of reaching 2025 with an untraditional year-in-review format, reflecting on the tumultuous events of 2024. They kick things off by sharing their personal and podcasting achievements, including Jenn's book launches and their feature in The Huffington Post. In The Conversation, they delve into the podcast's performance over the past year, highlighting the most listened-to episodes that resonated with their audience, such as discussions on Black lesbian visibility and the complexities of polyamory. They emphasize the importance of choosing oneself in a challenging world and how their experiences and insights can empower listeners. In The Reflection, Jenn and Daren look ahead to the future of the podcast, announcing exciting changes including the transition to a video format and the launch of the new podcast "We Published, Beloved!", focused on supporting Black and queer authors. They express their commitment to exploring themes of queer identity, parenting, and the realities of being Black in America today, inviting their listeners to join them on this journey of growth and exploration. Socials: Substack: https://coloredconvosmedia.substack.com/ www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Threads: www.Threads.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Duration:00:26:42

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S7E9 - Fake Holidays: Truth Telling vs. Myth Making

12/29/2024
In this episode, Jenn and Daren tackle the myths and realities of holiday traditions, questioning the authenticity and significance of these celebrations. As they reflect on the end of 2024, they discuss the societal pressures surrounding holidays and the myths that shape our understanding of them. In The Conversation, they delve into the notion of identity-making and the role holidays play in it. They challenge the conventional narratives around holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving, emphasizing the importance of authenticity over societal expectations. Through personal anecdotes, they highlight how their family has redefined holiday celebrations to align with their values, focusing on genuine connections rather than obligatory traditions. In The Reflection, Jenn and Daren explore the broader implications of myth-making, touching on topics such as Disney's corporate practices and the cultural impact of sports fandoms. They urge listeners to critically examine the myths they subscribe to and consider the power dynamics behind them. By questioning the status quo, they advocate for a more intentional and meaningful approach to identity and tradition. Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Threads: www.Threads.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Duration:00:41:16

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S7E8 - The South: Salt Grits vs. Sugar Grits

12/25/2024
In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive into the heart of Blackness in the American South, exploring its cultural richness, historical complexities, and the unique qualities that make it a cornerstone of Black identity in the U.S. They begin by sharing their personal experiences and revelations about the South, particularly through the lens of climate change and its impact on Southern communities. Jenn recounts her recent travels and the profound connection she felt to the land and its people, while Daren reflects on the resilience of the South in the face of historical and present-day challenges. In The Conversation, they pay homage to the South's enduring spirit, acknowledging both its struggles and its triumphs. They discuss the legacy of slavery, anti-literacy laws, and the systemic barriers that have shaped the region. Still, they also celebrate the South as a cradle of Black culture and activism, home to influential figures and movements that have left an indelible mark on history. In The Reflection, Jenn and Daren turn their attention to the culinary treasures of the South, using the metaphor of "salt grits versus sugar grits" to illustrate the diversity and depth of Southern cuisine. They share their appreciation for the flavors and traditions that are unique to the region, emphasizing the importance of preserving these cultural touchstones amidst the pressures of gentrification and modernization. Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Threads: www.Threads.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Duration:00:36:33

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S7E7 - Earth Is Ghetto, I Wanna Leave

11/20/2024
In this episode, inspired by Aaliyah Sheffield's song "Earth is Ghetto," Jenn and Daren dive into the chaotic reality of today's world, including the resurgence of COVID-19 and the unsettling political landscape post-election. They begin by candidly discuss their recent experiences with COVID-19 and the importance of remaining vigilant as the pandemic persists. Jenn shares her meticulous efforts to avoid the virus during her book tour, highlighting the stark contrast between her precautions and the general public's lax attitude. They emphasize the need for continued awareness and protection, as hospitals remain strained and the virus continues to pose a threat. In The Conversation, they delve into the implications of the recent election results, particularly the alarming Project 2025. Jenn and Daren express their concerns over the project's draconian measures, including attacks on reproductive rights, the dismantling of federal agencies, and the targeting of LGBTQ+ communities. They stress the importance of understanding these policies' potential impacts and preparing for the challenges ahead. In the Reflection, they offer practical advice for listeners to fortify themselves and their communities. From stocking up on essential supplies to engaging in local organizing efforts, Jenn and Daren encourage proactive measures to navigate the uncertain future. They underscore the power of knowledge and community action in combating the systemic issues that threaten marginalized communities. Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Duration:00:41:28

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S7E6 - Black Women Told Y’all: The Election Results

11/12/2024
In this episode, Jenn and Daren return after a brief hiatus due to a bout with COVID-19 to discuss the aftermath of the recent election results. This episode dives deep into the implications of the election, focusing on the role of Black women and the voting patterns that led to the unexpected outcome. In The Conversation, they analyze the election results, highlighting the phenomenon of split-ticket voting, where voters supported Democratic issues like abortion rights but still voted for Trump. Jenn and Daren also explore the concept of the "glass cliff," where women, particularly Black women, are set up to fail in high-stakes situations. In the Reflection, they delve into the broader implications of Trump's re-election, including the potential cabinet appointments and policy changes that could arise. They stress the importance of recognizing the influence of white voters, particularly white women, in determining election outcomes. Jenn and Daren call for a shift in focus towards understanding and addressing the voting behaviors of white Americans in future elections. Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Duration:00:35:26

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S7E5 - Ancestor Appreciation

9/30/2024
In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive into the rich and often overlooked topic of ancestor appreciation. Throughout the episode, Jenn and Daren emphasize the importance of acknowledging and honoring one's ancestors. They share personal anecdotes and practices, such as setting up altars and engaging in rituals that connect them to their ancestral roots. They argue that these practices are not only meaningful but also essential for a holistic understanding of self and community. The episode begins with Jenn sharing their experiences with organized religion, highlighting the transition from a strict Christian upbringing to a more nuanced understanding of spirituality that includes ancestor veneration. Daren adds his perspective, discussing the importance of finding what is real and true for oneself in the realm of faith and belief. In the Conversation, they delve into recent statistics about religious affiliation in the U.S., revealing that a significant number of Americans now identify as religiously unaffiliated. They discuss the implications of this trend, particularly among younger generations and LGBTQ individuals, who often leave organized religion due to its failure to meet their spiritual and ethical needs. In the Reflection, they discuss the broader implications of these trends, questioning the relevance of traditional religious institutions in modern society. They encourage listeners to explore alternative spiritual practices that resonate with their personal experiences and beliefs, suggesting that a focus on ancestor appreciation can provide a powerful and grounding sense of identity and purpose. Reference Material * New Survey Shows ‘Religiously Unaffiliated’ Is Fastest Growing Religious Category - https://www.prri.org/press-release/new-survey-shows-religiously-unaffiliated-is-fastest-growing-religious-category/ * Religious ‘Nones’ in America: Who They Are and What They Believe - https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/ Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Duration:00:36:06

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S7E4 - Food is Medicine

9/27/2024
In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive into the critical issue of food insecurity and the concept of food as medicine. The episode opens with Jenn and Daren sharing their personal relationships with food, shaped by their diverse upbringings. Jenn discusses their upbringing in a food desert and the impact of generational food insecurity on their family. Daren, on the other hand, talks about his childhood in Southern California, where despite having access to food, his choices were often influenced by convenience and taste rather than nutrition. In the Conversation, they delve into the definitions and implications of food deserts and food insecurity. Daren provides a detailed breakdown of the USDA's criteria for food deserts, highlighting the alarming statistics of food insecurity in America. They discuss the severe impact of food deserts on Black and Hispanic communities, particularly single-mother households in the South. The conversation then shifts to the psychological and physical effects of food insecurity, emphasizing the importance of building a healthy relationship with food. Jenn and Daren share their personal journeys of overcoming unhealthy food habits and the significance of teaching their children about nutritious eating. In the Reflection segment, they explore the resurgence of Black farm workers and care workers reconnecting with the land. They highlight the inspiring work of Tanya Denise Fields and other community farm initiatives that challenge stereotypes about Black people's relationship with nature. They discuss the therapeutic benefits of gardening and the importance of reclaiming land and agricultural practices as a form of medicine and empowerment. Reference Material * Tanya Denise Fields and the Black Feminist Project: https://www.theblackfeministproject.org/ * Food for People: Insights to Combat Food Insecurity: https://convoyofhope.org/articles/food-for-people/#:~:text=Food%20Insecurity%20in%20America%202024&text=According%20to%20its%20latest%20research,urban%20and%20rural%20communities%20alike * USDA Key Statistics & Graphics: https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-u-s/key-statistics-graphics/ * USDA Economic Research Service: https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/food-access-research-atlas/documentation/#:~:text=Using%20this%20measure%2C%20an%20estimated,miles%20from%20the%20nearest%20supermarket * A $300 billion opportunity: Serving the emerging Black American consumer: https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/a-300-billion-dollar-opportunity-serving-the-emerging-black-american-consumer Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Duration:00:35:42

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S7E3 - Rundown: Kamala, COVID, and Caucasian Coons

9/25/2024
In this episode, Jenn and Daren bring the heat with a rundown of recent events and topics they've missed while Jenn was away celebrating their 40th birthday. The episode kicks off with a discussion on COVID-19, highlighting the resurgence of cases and the importance of continuing to take precautions. Jenn shares her observations from her travels, noting the disappointing lack of mask usage and the general complacency around the virus. Daren emphasizes the need for updated vaccinations and the importance of maintaining safety measures as we head into flu season. In the next segment, they dive into the political landscape, focusing on Vice President Kamala Harris's run for president. They discuss the challenges she faces, reflect on the significance of her candidacy, dissect the complexities of supporting a political figure who embodies both progress and problematic policies. The conversation then shifts to the controversy surrounding Rachel Ray Gunn's breakdancing performance at the Olympics, unpacking how the “Rachel Dolezal of breakdancing” has impacted the perception of breakdancing as a sport. To close out the conversation, they tackle the heavy topic of Diddy's legal troubles, discussing the allegations of abuse and the broader implications for the music industry. They highlight the importance of recognizing and addressing abuse, even in powerful figures, and the need for justice for survivors. They close things out discussing the merits and pitfalls of Netflix movies "The Deliverance" and "Rebel Ridge," sharing why Aaron Pierre is our next Black action hero but someone might need to check in on Glenn Close. Reference Material: * Summer COVID surge shows we may have to return to 2020 pandemic measures - https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/4850579-covid-19-summer-surge-2024/amp/ * How Raygun made it to the Olympics and divided breaking world - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gl34v4r98o * Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs jailed by judge after sex trafficking indictment https://apnews.com/article/sean-diddy-combs-arrested-court-5d570cab4625ca5f9dd16dfd7df4437c * Danity Kane’s Dawn Richard Sues Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs for Sexual Battery and Assault https://variety.com/2024/music/news/sean-diddy-combs-dawn-richard-sued-sexual-battery-assault-1236140939/ * Conservatives Are Melting Down Over Megan Thee Stallion’s ‘Hotties for Harris’ Performance - https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/megan-thee-stallion-harris-rally-conservative-reactions-1235071528/ Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Duration:00:52:38

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S7E2 - Experts Over Influencers and Content Creators

8/11/2024
In this episode, Jenn and Daren tackle the contentious topic of "Experts Over Influencers and Content Creators." With a mix of humor and candidness, they explore the distinctions between true expertise and the rise of social media personalities. The episode opens with Jenn and Daren discussing the importance of understanding the difference between experts, content creators, and influencers, especially with the Presidential election on the horizon. They highlight the necessity of rigorous training and peer review in establishing true expertise. Jenn and Daren stress the importance of community, training, and practice in developing genuine knowledge, which can't be replaced by social media popularity. In the second segment, Daren shares a fascinating case study involving Terrence Howard and Neil deGrasse Tyson. Howard's controversial claim that "one times one equals two" and Neil deGrasse Tyson’s vicious “peer review” underscores the importance of peer review and accountability in maintaining the integrity of knowledge. Jenn references Amanda Seales and the “Origin” movie as examples of people professing to be experts without the accountability that is required to prove that their knowledge has any merit. The episode concludes with a reflection on how to engage appropriately with content on social media. Jenn and Daren discuss the importance of citation ethics and community accountability, encouraging listeners to dig deeper into sources and recognize the difference between entertainment and substantive knowledge. Reference Material: Neil deGrasse Tyson’s Response to Terrence Howard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uLi1I3G2N4 Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Duration:00:55:42

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S7E1 - Building Boundaries vs. Walls

8/5/2024
In this episode, Jenn and Daren launch the seventh season by diving into the nuanced topic of boundaries versus walls. They discuss their personal journeys and the importance of setting healthy boundaries in various aspects of life, from relationships to social media to work environments. The episode begins with Jenn sharing insights from Nedra Tawwab's book "Set Boundaries, Find Peace," highlighting the importance of setting boundaries not just with others but also with oneself. They discuss the challenges of maintaining boundaries in relationships, especially when faced with repeated violations. Daren brings up his own experiences with setting boundaries, particularly with family, and the importance of maintaining those boundaries even when it feels difficult. In the Conversation, they explore the difference between boundaries and walls, emphasizing that boundaries are about mutual respect and clear communication, while walls are defensive mechanisms that can hinder healthy relationships. Throughout the episode, Jenn and Daren provide practical examples of how to set and enforce boundaries in various domains, including social media and work environments. They also discuss the importance of recognizing when someone is unable to respect your boundaries and the need to sometimes walk away from those relationships. In the Reflection, Jenn and Daren highlight the importance of knowing oneself and the role of healing in building healthy boundaries. They encourage listeners to examine their own walls and boundaries, offering insights from their personal experiences and research. Reference Material: * Psychology Today: Boundaries - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/boundaries * “Set Boundaries, Find Peace” by Nedra Tawwab - https://amzn.to/4cz0IMQ “The Body Keeps the Score” by Bessel van der Kolk - https://amzn.to/3X8CSDo * “My Grandmother's Hands” by Resmaa Menakem - https://amzn.to/3yT3oqQ Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Duration:00:50:49