The Gary and Mark Show

DeeDee has been the Director of Security (and Insecurity) since the earliest days of the Gary & Mark Podcasting University. She recently found herself in a financial pickle. Gary has come up with a possible solution. And from there we talk with Mike Reeves, Board Chair of the Saluda Historic Depot & Museum in Saluda, North Carolina. Mikes tells us how the train came to be in Saluda and how that turned the town into a destination. You can watch a video version of this podcast on YouTube. Check out everything Gary & Mark on our website: https://www.garyandmark.com/ Mike Reeves

It's not often you'll meet someone who is 102 years old, but we did. Bob Bessell is an incredible American hero. Take a listen to his story. You can also watch the Youtube version with the link below: Check out Episode 60 with Bob Bessell www.GaryAndMark.com

There's always lots going on when Gary and Mark get together. We got to sample some homegrown syrup produced by Dan Cameron made from sorghum. It's a perfect way to celebrate fall. Gary whippeed up some of his homemade buttermilk biscuits and that got him talking. The main part of this episode is the retelling of just some of the adventures Gary and Steve Blizzard had in 1974 when they paddled 379 miles down the Ohio River and up the Kentucky River to Harrodsburg. They were helping the City of Harrodsburg celebrate the 200th anniversary of the founding of the town (Fort Harrod) by Col James Harrord in 1774. As always, it's a great story. You can watch the video version of this podcast on our YouTube channel at: https://youtu.be/MxhLcgeCPVs Read more about our show and Gary & Mark at: www.GaryAndMark.com.

We were thrilled to be able to sit down with John Delaloye, CEO of Diamond Brand Gear, to hear about his company and the way they're turning heads. One of the things they're doing is taking old tents and other products they've made over the years and repurposing them into new, very unique pieces of gear. Folks get a product that is sure to turn heads...and we all get to keep the old material from ending up in a landfill. You can see the Youtube version of this podcast with this link. Check out their website at: www.DiamondBrandGear.com And why not become a sponsor of The Gary and Mark Show? For just about any amount, we'll mention you and/or your business by name on the next several episodes. www.GaryAndMark.com And don't forget that the fall semester starts soon at the Gary and Mark Podcasting University. Apply now. We're the only university in the world (we think) where you can apply and graduate in the same day. John Delaloye, CEO of Diamond Brand Gear, Fletcher, NC

This episode has everything. We give a shoutout to our new Australian Gary & Mark Fan Club president, talk a bit about some outdoor activities...and then we move onto the other things. You'll hear us discuss the price of eggs, we address the possibility of classified documents at the University, and we even take on George Santos. Watch this episode on Youtube. Check out our website at: www.GaryAndMark.com

The Gary & Mark Show was pleased to welcome Bev MacDowell as our guest for this episode. Bev, from Asheville, has a lot going on. She still teaches "cursive" to new students at Carolina Day School where she has worked for over twenty years. And that's just for starters. At the age where most people are retired, Bev is just hitting her stride. She is a professional hiking guide with the Blue Ridge Hiking Company in Asheville. If that's not enough, she also works with "search and rescue" to help locate and bring home lost hikers, backpackers, and others. To top that off, Bev is a member of and serves as an occasional leader for Carolina Mountain Club hikes. Bev talks about all of that and more with Gary and Mark. And if you go back far enough (and we did) she mentions that she was once a model in Europe. We can believe it. You can watch the video version on Youtube at: https://youtu.be/MaWt9KJRQiI You can learn more about the Blue Ridge Hiking Company at: BlueRidgeHikingCo.com Learn more about the Carolina Mountain Club at: CarolinaMountainClub.org Check out the Gary and Mark Show including our Podcasting University info at: GaryAndMark.com

Gary is not one to rest on his laurels. He, along with the scientists in the laboratory at the Gary & Mark Podcasting University, have developed a new product that will definitely put us on the map. Folks, you're hearing it here first. This and much more coming at you. Check out our accompanying website at: www.GaryAndMark.com You can see the video version on Youtube at: https://youtu.be/hN-itWmfAXc Our Sponsors: https://www.garyandmark.com/our-sponsors.html

We enjoyed this chat in Gary's living room with local conservationist, author, AT thru-hiker, and RVer Peter J. Barr. Peter is on a mission to document and save the old fire watch towers in North Carolina. He's written two books on the towers with one just out, "Exploring North Carolina's Lookout Towers." You can order the book at: NCLOOKOUTS.com. Peter will autograph it for you. You can learn more about Conserving Carolina at: conservingcarolina.org. Check out the Gary and Mark Show website at: GaryAndMark.com where you can enroll in the Gary & Mark Podcasting University. And of course, you can donate to the cause to keep the show on the air another year. Watch the Youtube version: https://youtu.be/9gPh_1vmuAA Peter J. Barr

Gary's older brother, Larry, joins us in the guest seat for this episode recorded via Zoom. Larry has a lot of life experiences including serving a career in the US Air Force as a meteorologist. But he mostly discusses "BEER" in this episode, specifically...non-alcoholic brews. Larry has devised his own system for rating NA beers and he shares with us his top pics and also those at the bottom of the pile. It makes for an interesting show. While Larry might have retired as a Lt. Colonel, he doesn't let that position keep him from entering other professions. He's always been a part of the staff at the Gary & Mark Podcasting University. We're happy to announce that Larry has agreed to take on the position of Dean of our new Central US campus of the GMPU. Check out the Youtube version at: https://youtu.be/Om8CCSAmD1E

Four old men having a brew or two and talking about the good old times at Camp Mondamin where we all worked as counselors. We had a blast at camp and at this gathering at Saluda Outfitters. Gary, Mark, Charlie, and Joe have all been friends for over 50 years. And listening to us in this podcast, you'll see why. There is a Youtube version here: https://youtu.be/yuh0tCkAf_M Don't forget to check out our accompanying website at: www.GaryAndMark.com Charlie, Gary, Mark, and Joe

Kirsten McDonald joined us as our last guest of the day a few months back when we were once again recording at DuPont State Recreational Forest on National Public Lands Day. Kirsten is the Information & Education Supervisor for DuPont State Recreational Forest and she is now the new Dean of Communications at the Gary & Mark Podcasting University. Find out more about Dupont at www.DuPontForest.com. You can "see" this episode on our Youtube channel at: https://youtu.be/8lbwuuKyaok Give us a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't, and check out our website at: www.GaryAndMark.com where you enroll now at The Gary and Mark Podcasting University. In fact, you can actually earn your BS faster than you can read this paragraph. Follow “The Gary & Mark Show” Please tell your friends about “The Gary & Mark Show.” Like us, follow us, subscribe – and all of that other stuff at all the usual places including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Podbean, and Podchaser. And of course, check out all the show info at: www.garyandmark.com. Want to give us a piece of your mind, email us at: columbusmark@gmail.com. Thanks to our sponsors: Saluda Outfitters, Home of Green River Eddy’s Tap Room & Grill http://www.saludaoutfitters.com/ L.J. Meyers, Homeward Angels Professional White Dove Releases https://homewardangelswhitedoves.com Iron Key Brewing Company in Columbus, NC https://ironkeybrewing.com Athletic Brewing Company https://athleticbrewing.com/ And of course… Rabbit Island Resort (we’re just a hare better) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-a6yta-b6f31a The Big Whizz Pocket Buddy (an app for your phone) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-eicuh-b4b7c8

Danny Bernstein joined us as a guest at the DuPont State Recreational Forest Festival we attended earlier in the fall. Danny has written numerous guide books for hiking and backpacking trails across the Carolinas. We were pleased to have her on the show. You can find Danny's books at Amazon.com and ArcadiaPublishing.com as well as regional outdoor stores. Danny Bernstein in front of the mobile podcasting studio. Cover of Danny's "DuPont Forest - A History" Give us a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't, and check out our website at: www.GaryAndMark.com where you enroll now at The Gary and Mark Podcasting University. In fact, you can actually earn your BS faster than you can read this paragraph. This podcast can also be “viewed” on our YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/U5X6WoBOvi8 Follow “The Gary & Mark Show” Please tell your friends about “The Gary & Mark Show.” Like us, follow us, subscribe – and all of that other stuff at all the usual places including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Podbean, and Podchaser. And of course, check out all the show info at: www.garyandmark.com. Want to give us a piece of your mind, email us at: garyandmarkshow@gmail.com. Thanks to our sponsors: Saluda Outfitters, Home of Green River Eddy’s Tap Room & Grill http://www.saludaoutfitters.com/ L.J. Meyers, Homeward Angels Professional White Dove Releases https://homewardangelswhitedoves.com Iron Key Brewing Company in Columbus, NC https://ironkeybrewing.com Athletic Brewing Company https://athleticbrewing.com/ And of course… Rabbit Island Resort (we’re just a hare better) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-a6yta-b6f31a The Big Whizz Pocket Buddy (an app for your phone) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-eicuh-b4b7c8

This episode of The Gary & Mark Show was recorded in front of a live audience of who knows how many at the 2021 DuPont Forest Festival. This event was part of National Public Lands Day and was held at DuPont State Recreational Forest near Brevard, North Carolina. Sara Landry, the Executive Director of Friend of DuPont, was our guest for this episode. Find out more about Dupont at www.DuPontForest.com. Stay tuned for two more episodes we recorded with other guests during the event. You can see a Youtube version of this episode at: https://youtu.be/CNBzNmjb8yM Give us a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't, and check out our website at: www.GaryAndMark.com where you enroll now at The Gary and Mark Podcasting University. In fact, you can actually earn your BS faster than you can read this paragraph. Follow “The Gary & Mark Show” Please tell your friends about “The Gary & Mark Show.” Like us, follow us, subscribe – and all of that other stuff at all the usual places including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Podbean, and Podchaser. And of course, check out all the show info at: www.garyandmark.com. Want to give us a piece of your mind, email us at: columbusmark@gmail.com. Thanks to our sponsors: Saluda Outfitters, Home of Green River Eddy’s Tap Room & Grill www.saludaoutfitters.com/ L.J. Meyers, Homeward Angels Professional White Dove Releases homewardangelswhitedoves.com Iron Key Brewing Company in Columbus, NC ironkeybrewing.com Athletic Brewing Company athleticbrewing.com And of course… Rabbit Island Resort (we’re just a hare better) podbean.com/eu/pb-a6yta-b6f31a The Big Whizz Pocket Buddy (an app for your phone) podbean.com/eu/pb-eicuh-b4b7c8

We were invited to show up at the Forest Festival at DuPont State Recreational Forest near Brevard, North Carolina a few weeks ago to record a series of podcasts. This is the second and it features our guest, Marco Knox. Marco represents the Athletic Brewing Company and he didn't disappoint. We got free non-alcoholic beers and some other goodies for our efforts. Check the company out at: athleticbrewing.com Give us a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't, and check out our website at: www.GaryAndMark.com where you enroll for the spring semester at The Gary and Mark Podcasting University. In fact, you can actually earn your BS faster than you can read this paragraph. This podcast can also be “viewed” on our YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/BeiCpkmxGt4 Follow “The Gary & Mark Show” Please tell your friends about “The Gary & Mark Show.” Like us, follow us, subscribe – and all of that other stuff at all the usual places including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Podbean, and Podchaser. And of course, check out all the show info at: www.garyandmark.com. Want to give us a piece of your mind, email us at: garyandmarkshow@gmail.com. Thanks to our sponsors: Saluda Outfitters, Home of Green River Eddy’s Tap Room & Grill http://www.saludaoutfitters.com/ L.J. Meyers, Homeward Angels Professional White Dove Releases https://homewardangelswhitedoves.com Iron Key Brewing Company in Columbus, NC https://ironkeybrewing.com Athletic Brewing Company https://athleticbrewing.com/ And of course… Rabbit Island Resort (we’re just a hare better) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-a6yta-b6f31a The Big Whizz Pocket Buddy (an app for your phone) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-eicuh-b4b7c8

This episode of The Gary & Mark Show was recorded in front of a live audience of who knows how many at the 2021 DuPont Forest Festival. This event was part of National Public Lands Day and was held at DuPont State Recreational Forest near Brevard, North Carolina. Jeff Jennings, the founding president of Friends of DuPont Forest, was our guest for this episode. Find out more about Dupont State Recreational Forest at www.DuPontForest.com. Jeff Jennings, Founding President of Friends of DuPont Forest and a proud honors graduate of The Gary and Mark Podcasting University. Stay tuned for future episodes we recorded with other guests during the event. Mark & Gary at the DuPont Forest Festival. Give us a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't, and check out our website at: www.GaryAndMark.com where you enroll now at The Gary and Mark Podcasting University. In fact, you can actually earn your BS faster than you can read this paragraph. This podcast can also be “viewed” on our YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/tcFRKnwy0Q8 Follow “The Gary & Mark Show” Please tell your friends about “The Gary & Mark Show.” Like us, follow us, subscribe – and all of that other stuff at all the usual places including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Podbean, and Podchaser. And of course, check out all the show info at: www.garyandmark.com. Want to give us a piece of your mind, email us at: garyandmarkshow@gmail.com. Thanks to our sponsors: Saluda Outfitters, Home of Green River Eddy’s Tap Room & Grill http://www.saludaoutfitters.com/ L.J. Meyers, Homeward Angels Professional White Dove Releases https://homewardangelswhitedoves.com Iron Key Brewing Company in Columbus, NC https://ironkeybrewing.com Athletic Brewing Company https://athleticbrewing.com/ And of course… Rabbit Island Resort (we’re just a hare better) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-a6yta-b6f31a The Big Whizz Pocket Buddy (an app for your phone) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-eicuh-b4b7c8

We needed to get a pulse on life in Watershed, and that meant we had to put in a call to DeeDee. Luckily, she was free between many of her duties in our small town. The Gary & Mark Podcasting University is a bit quiet as students won't show up for a while. Maybe they won't show up at all. But DeeDee will be ready for them. In the meantime, she did fill us in campus and town happenings. Give us a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't, and check out our website at: www.GaryAndMark.com where you enroll for the spring semester at The Gary and Mark Podcasting University. In fact, you can actually earn your BS faster than you can read this paragraph. This podcast can also be “viewed” on our YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/iFbbvBmEY6w Follow “The Gary & Mark Show” Please tell your friends about “The Gary & Mark Show.” Like us, follow us, subscribe – and all of that other stuff at all the usual places including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Podbean, and Podchaser. And of course, check out all the show info at: www.garyandmark.com. Want to give us a piece of your mind, email us at: garyandmarkshow@gmail.com. Thanks to our sponsors: Saluda Outfitters, Home of Green River Eddy’s Tap Room & Grill http://www.saludaoutfitters.com/ L.J. Meyers, Homeward Angels Professional White Dove Releases https://homewardangelswhitedoves.com Iron Key Brewing Company in Columbus, NC https://ironkeybrewing.com And of course… Rabbit Island Resort (we’re just a hare better) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-a6yta-b6f31a The Big Whizz Pocket Buddy (an app for your phone) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-eicuh-b4b7c8

In Episode 45, Gary and Mark meet up in a park in downtown Saluda and enjoy having Steve Longenecker as our guest. Steve has worked in summer camps and schools and other outdoor oriented programs for decades. He is considered a true pioneer in rock climbing in the South. Steve Photo of Looking Glass Rock in Pisgah National Forest in North Carolina is by: ucumari photography and is licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 2.0 Give us a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't, and check out our website at: www.GaryAndMark.com where you enroll for the spring semester at The Gary and Mark Podcasting University. In fact, you can actually earn your BS faster than you can read this paragraph. This podcast can also be “viewed” on our YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/RuUm-sRmpzM Follow “The Gary & Mark Show” Please tell your friends about “The Gary & Mark Show.” Like us, follow us, subscribe – and all of that other stuff at all the usual places including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Podbean, and Podchaser. And of course, check out all the show info at: www.garyandmark.com. Want to give us a piece of your mind, email us at: garyandmarkshow@gmail.com. Thanks to our sponsors: Saluda Outfitters, Home of Green River Eddy’s Tap Room & Grill http://www.saludaoutfitters.com/ L.J. Meyers, Homeward Angels Professional White Dove Releases https://homewardangelswhitedoves.com Iron Key Brewing Company in Columbus, NC https://ironkeybrewing.com And of course… Rabbit Island Resort (we’re just a hare better) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-a6yta-b6f31a The Big Whizz Pocket Buddy (an app for your phone) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-eicuh-b4b7c8

Gary and Mark met at Iron Key Brewing Company in Columbus. The idea was to podcast from the patio, or possibly the solitary confinement cell, or from the big house. Yes, this place used to be a North Carolina prison. But it was too windy to go outside and the idea of sitting in a small cell brought back too many bad memories. So we recorded in the mobile podcasting studio. We got off to a rocky start...first forgot to turn on the camera, then got the camera rolling and forgot to turn on the audio recorder, then got both rolling and the camera battery died. We can't blame it on the beer - we only had one. Mark says he was out of sync. But in the end - we got it done. Check out the Youtube version at: https://youtu.be/UTADT7Q8dDM Swing by our website at: www.garyandmark.com to check all our episodes and to enroll in the Gary & Mark Podcasting University. Perhaps you too could a wildly popular podcast! It's free. Thanks to our sponsors: Saluda Outfitters, Home of Green River Eddy’s Tap Room & Grill http://www.saludaoutfitters.com/ L.J. Meyers, Homeward Angels Professional White Dove Releases https://homewardangelswhitedoves.com Iron Key Brewing Company in Columbus, NC https://ironkeybrewing.com And of course… Rabbit Island Resort (we’re just a hare better) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-a6yta-b6f31a The Big Whizz Pocket Buddy (an app for your phone) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-eicuh-b4b7c8

In Episode 43, Gary and Mark meet up at Saluda Outfitters, home of Green River Eddy’s Tap Room & Grill for a nice rambling chat about things on their minds. It makes for a lively discussion. Give us a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't, and check out our website at: www.GaryAndMark.com where you enroll for the spring semester at The Gary and Mark Podcasting University. In fact, you can actually earn your BS faster than you can read this paragraph. Music: "Moments" by The Major Toms Licensed through Audiio.com This podcast can also be “viewed” on our YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/UlR9C7QUjwU Follow “The Gary & Mark Show” Please tell your friends about “The Gary & Mark Show.” Like us, follow us, subscribe – and all of that other stuff at all the usual places including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Podbean, and Podchaser. And of course, check out all the show info at: www.garyandmark.com. Want to give us a piece of your mind, email us at: garyandmarkshow@gmail.com. Thanks to our sponsors: Saluda Outfitters, Home of Green River Eddy’s Tap Room & Grill http://www.saludaoutfitters.com/ L.J. Meyers, Homeward Angels Professional White Dove Releases https://homewardangelswhitedoves.com Iron Key Brewing Company in Columbus, NC https://ironkeybrewing.com And of course… Rabbit Island Resort (we’re just a hare better) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-a6yta-b6f31a The Big Whizz Pocket Buddy (an app for your phone) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-eicuh-b4b7c8

The Gary and Mark Show starts its third season with a podcast recorded next to the old Green River Bridge. There's a lot going on in the next 22 minutes including Gary's discussion about a portable bidet with backpackers in mind. In fact, Gary demonstrates how it works. Give us a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't, and check out our website at: www.GaryAndMark.com where you enroll for the spring semester at The Gary and Mark Podcasting University. In fact, you can actually earn your BS faster than you can read this paragraph. This podcast can also be “viewed” on our YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/k6cgBt3Iubc Gary on the old Green River Bridge Side view of the old bridge This flume brings water from the dam on Lake Summit to the powerhouse to generate electricity Mobile podcast recording studio Follow “The Gary & Mark Show” Please tell your friends about “The Gary & Mark Show.” Like us, follow us, subscribe – and all of that other stuff at all the usual places including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Podbean, and Podchaser. And of course, check out all the show info at: www.garyandmark.com. Want to give us a piece of your mind, email us at: garyandmarkshow@gmail.com. Thanks to our sponsors: Saluda Outfitters, Home of Green River Eddy’s Tap Room & Grill http://www.saludaoutfitters.com/ L.J. Meyers, Homeward Angels Professional White Dove Releases https://homewardangelswhitedoves.com Iron Key Brewing Company in Columbus, NC https://ironkeybrewing.com And of course… Rabbit Island Resort (we’re just a hare better) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-a6yta-b6f31a The Big Whizz Pocket Buddy (an app for your phone) https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-eicuh-b4b7c8