These Football Times

It’s football’s greatest achievement that you’ve probably never heard of. In 1930/31, West Bromwich Albion won promotion from the Second Division and, if that wasn’t enough, they won the FA Cup as well. It was the first time that double had ever been done, it hasn’t been done since, and I think we can safely wager the TFT family silver on it never being done again. We’re joined by members of Albion’s extended royal family, Paul and Ben Wood, who are, respectively, grandson and great-grandson of Stan Wood, the Throstles’ left winger who played a huge part in that season, playing 50 games and scoring 17 goals as his side won a unique double.

Our epic trawls through the 1970s and 80s are finally at an end, so in one final effort to keep the franchise going, Steven Scragg and Dave Bowler meet to debate the merits and otherwise of the two decades. Alex Ireland bravely takes on the Jack Taylor/Keith Hackett role. Maggie Thatcher, you took one hell of a beating.

In the decade that will never die, the 1980s team reunite one last time (probably) for a bit of whataboutery? Some listeners have pointed out a few of the stones that were left unturned in the course of the series, so everyone has reconvened to debate Aberdeen, Chelsea, the legendary summit between Keith Burkinshaw and César Luis Menotti. Thoughts eventually turn, of course, to Peter Hucker, Gary Bailey and Mirandinha.

Second Division played First at Highbury in 1982, and it was the lower tier side who came out on top, Terry Venables piloting a way to the FA Cup final for his side in a game where West Brom simply couldn’t get going. Dave Bowler relives a teenage nightmare in the company of Steven Scragg and Bill Hern.

Join us as we talk to TFT’s very own Aidan Williams about his new book, Euro 1984: The Greatest Tournament You Never Saw. As the title suggests, here in the UK we missed most of the tournament when the TV companies chose to ignore it after none of the home nations qualified. So let us fill you in on just what happened 40 years ago.

On the 35th anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster, we conclude our conversations by talking to Andrew Knott, the man behind the Anfield crowd mosaics. Andrew takes us through his experiences as one of those who made it onto the pitch from the Leppings Lane terraces, where he would help ferry stricken supporters from the scene on makeshift stretchers, exposed as he was to some of the worst images of the day.

On the 35th anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster, we continue our personal reflections as Peter Scarfe speaks about his experiences on the terraces at Leppings Lane on 15 April 1989. Peter, the co-creator and chair of the Hillsborough Survivors Support Alliance (HSA) also talks about the invaluable work that the HSA undertakes, and the lasting effects the disaster wrought on those who were involved in, and witnessed, the day.

On the 35th anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster, we talk to Dr Anne Eyre, a sociologist specialising in the psychosocial aspects of major incidents, emergency planning and disaster management, who was on the Leppings Lane terraces on 15 April 1989. An open and candid conversation, Anne kindly tells us not only of her experiences and the effects they have left her with, but also the positive work she does as a result of them.

And now, the end is near, and so they face an impossibly difficult Question of Sport blowout to decide the Quiz Champion of the 1980s. Before that, our intrepid panellists choose their favourite games and players of the decade, reflect back on what the decade meant to them and, scandalously, refuse to indulge in some community singing of the B-side of the 1982 England World Cup single. Your ears are safe.

Following on from our series on the 1980s, we’ve one final visit to the decade as Chris Lepkowski, Aidan Williams and Stu Horsfield offer their choice of the goalkeeper, defender, midfielder, striker and manager who should be chiselled onto the decade’s Mount Rushmore. Gary Thacker attempts to retain some semblance of order.

A striker unearthed at lastminute.com, Robbie Savage writhing in agony, the winning manager watching the last few minutes of the game on TV in a cupboard, all human life is here in this FA Cup quarter-final at Filbert Street as Leicester, fourth in the Premier League, succumbed to third tier Wycombe. Helping guide the regular team through the carnage is Gary Silke, co-author of the Got Not Got series and a lifelong Leicester fan. He can laugh about it now. Nearly…

Phil Harrison joins us in the Centre Circle to talk us through some shadowy tales of footballing life in Albania, all captured in his excellent new book, Inside The Hermit Kingdom.

And so the 1980s odyssey ends with a tumultuous season. We pay our respects to the Hillsborough disaster, with further podcasts to come on that subject, but this ONE concentrates on the football. Liverpool come through the tragedy to beat Everton in the FA Cup final, but a second double of the decade eludes them when it’s all up for grabs in one final game at Anfield AS Arsenal snatch the title from them. Brian Clough wins one more trophy with Nottingham Forest, while Chelsea and Manchester City enjoy hugely successful seasons – by getting promoted from Division Two. Different times.

We move into the 21st century with this tie, and find that it was easier to remember the 1970s. Nonetheless, rediscovering the day that Conference side Lincoln City went to Turf Moor and upset Sean Dyche and his Burnley team is a joy - unless you’re a Burnley fan. A year when the Cowleys burst onto the national scene as a management team, setting down the foundations that have since seen Lincoln re-establish themselves in League One, while for Burnley, taking the cup seriously was still no insurance against being on the wrong end of a major embarrassment. The magic of the cup, indeed. (Apologies for the occasional sound gremlins, hope they don’t spoil your enjoyment of the podcast too much).

After surrendering their title to Everton, Liverpool come storming back, fuelled by John Barnes, Peter Beardsley and John Aldridge. A second league and cup double in three years seems inevitable but at Wembley, Dave Beasant saves a penalty and Wimbledon carry off the FA Cup after just 11 seasons in the Football League. Elsewhere, Luton stun Arsenal with a late comeback to win the League Cup, Chelsea collapse from title contenders to relegation fodder and on Tyneside, samba-style football comes to the Toon in the shape of Mirandinha.

1986/87: in the Mersey Wars trilogy, we’re up to Everton Strike Back as Howard Kendall’s side regain the league title. Keith Houchen ensures he will be forever frozen in time with that diving header in the FA Cup final as Coventry win the trophy and disappoint a Spurs side that promise so much but end up empty handed, despite Clive Allen’s 49 goals. In Scotland, Graeme Souness starts his Rangers revolution, while Aberdeen lose their manager as Alexander Chapman Ferguson trades Pittodrie for Old Trafford.

The team mark the sad passing of Stan Bowles with a tribute to the man who illuminated Loftus Road, fell out with Malcolm Allison and Brian Clough, and who should surely have won more than just five England caps. A wonderful maverick.

A season that began in the shadow of Bradford and Heysel, with a blackout of TV coverage and the implications of the European ban, 1985/86 emerged as a campaign full of highlights. In the title race, Manchester United started like a train and ended like a rag and bone cart, West Ham couldn’t quite come through on the rails, Everton long looked like champions, but, in the end, it was Liverpool who won the title. Of course they did, this was the 1980s. But did they have to win the double as well? Oxford had a memorable first season in the top flight and won the League Cup to boot, there were plastic pitches at Luton and QPR, and Hearts blew the double in Scotland in the course of a heartbreaking, or Hearts-breaking, week. Sorry.

Wrexham might have their own TV show, but the greatest League Two season of the 21st century surely belongs to Bradford City. The 2012/13 campaign saw them make two visits to Wembley, becoming the first fourth tier team to play there in one of the senior cup competitions, before returning to do battle in the playoffs. It’s a ripping yarn that would make Barnstoneworth United proud, and City Gent editor Mike Harrison is here to tell it in the company of Scragg S. and Bowler D.

With football still reeling from the tragedy of the Bradford fire at Valley Parade, just 18 days later, on 29 May 1985, came the Heysel Stadium disaster at the European Cup final between Liverpool and Juventus. Some 39 people, mostly Juventus fans, were killed and around 600 injured when a wall collapsed. Liverpool supporter Chris Rowland was there, and he later wrote his own account of those events, From Where I Was Standing. He joins Steven Scragg to discuss the tragedy, its causes and implications.