
Butt Out, Baby!
Arts & Culture Podcasts
Scene-by-scene study of Dirty Dancing: A film that gets a lot of love — but not enough respect.
Location:
United States
Genres:
Arts & Culture Podcasts
Description:
Scene-by-scene study of Dirty Dancing: A film that gets a lot of love — but not enough respect.
Language:
English
Website:
https://buttoutbaby.com
Episodes
Dirty Debrief Scenes 7 - 9
10/13/2025
Debrief episodes are for listener feedback on the previous scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. In this episode:
Sources used:
Indigenous land acknowledgements, their purpose, and how to make them meaningful | CBC Kids News
National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation
Native-Land.ca
Emotions, Remembering and Feeling Better: Dealing with the Indian Residential Schools Settlement Agreement in Canada by Anne-Marie Reynaud
What's wrong with land acknowledgments, and how to make them better
I’m tired of explaining Indigenous culture by Drew Hayden Taylor
King Charles' land acknowledgement
The Cotton Club by James Haskins
Cover Me: The stories behind the greatest cover songs of all time by Ray Padgett
Three things that need to happen before I defend men from Olympic sexism by Lindy West
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plus
Thelma: A Country Opera
Duration:00:23:37
9 - I Envy You
8/24/2025
Baby tries on a wig and puts her foot in her mouth.
+ Robbie the creep + The problem with Baby putting Penny on a pedestal + Penny's rebuff as the beginning of another kind of awakening
Andrea Warner wrote a book on Dirty Dancing!
Andrea Warner's pop culture podcast, Pop This!
Andrea's website
Andrea's Instagram
For your scene thoughts:
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Music by Claire Whitehead aka Claire Maeve aka Midswim
Duration:01:03:09
8 - The Staff Dance Party
7/17/2025
Baby crosses the threshold.
+ filming a dance scene + the craft of acting in such a scene + the evolution of dirty dancing from West Africa to the South into the grand amalgamation displayed in this scene + low brow vs high brow dance + cultural voyeurism in low brow dance
Anita Abbasi website
Anita Abbasi Instagram
Sarah Kolasky website Sarah Kolasky Instagram
Short film Sarah and I worked on called It's Never The Drifter!
Katrina Thompson Moore website
For your scene 7 & 8 thoughts: ellie@buttoutbaby.com Buy me a pot of tea (i.e. small donations) here Follow the show on Instagram
Fashion commentary by visual artist, Christy Kunitzky
Music by Claire Whitehead aka Claire Maeve aka Midswim
Duration:01:17:04
Bonus, Baby! It's Carol (2015) season with Whoa!mance
12/20/2024
Ellie invites Morgan and Isabeau of Whoa!mance into a cozy 1950s booth for a close examination of Carol. Carol stars Cate Blanchett & Rooney Mara (plus Sarah Paulson being an icon) Directed by Todd Haynes Screenplay by Phyllis Nagy (based on the romance novel The Price of Salt by Patricia Highsmith)
Duration:02:00:50
7 - The Borscht Belt
12/2/2024
History of the Catskills and Borscht Belt comedy.
+ Last of the Mohicans + Growing up in Liberty, NY + The difference between Borscht Belt humour and observational comedy + The gendered implications of telling a dirty joke
Works used and mentioned:
Red Nation podcast episode about Last of the Mohicans EILEEN'S WEBSITE
EILEEN'S PODCAST
For your scene 7 thoughts: ellie@buttoutbaby.com Buy me a pot of tea (i.e. small donations) here Follow the show on Instagram
Fashion commentary by visual artist, Christy Kunitzky
Music by Claire Whitehead aka Claire Maeve aka Midswim
Duration:01:19:47
Dirty Debrief Scene 6
6/4/2024
Debrief episodes are for listener feedback on the previous scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. In this episode:
Sources used:
Moon River in Sex and the City
SNCC button
Doris Kearns Goodwin NY Times by the book
Dresden Story NFB
Idaho miscegenation news report
Sapiens: A Graphic History, Volume 2: The Pillars of Civilization
CTV: Ontario's African Lion Safari named worst place for elephants in North America
21 Things You May Not Know About the Indian Act: Helping Canadians Make Reconciliation with Indigenous Peoples a Reality by Bob Joseph
What You Can Do for Your Country: An Oral History of the Peace Corps by Karen Schwarz
Babylon Girls: Black Women Performers and the Shaping of the Modern by Jayna Brown
Cake Walk in 1903
They All Played Ragtime: The true story of an American music by Rudi Blesh
Silly Games by Janet Kay (as featured in Lovers Rock)
Breach of Peace: Portraits of the 1961 Mississippi Freedom Riders by Eric Etheridge
A Note on Historical Language: 'Negro,' 'Colored,' 'Black,' and 'African American'
By AFRICAN AMERICAN POETRY (1870-1928): A DIGITAL ANTHOLOGY
James Baldwin doc from 1968
Plagiarism and You(Tube) by hbomberguy
“every youtuber after that hbomberguy video dropped:” by Man Carrying Thing
Yale Strategies for Paraphrase
Robin Williams on Marc Maron’s WTF
Time of My Life: Dirty Dancing by Andrea Warner
Check out instagram account dirtydancing_movie_nerd
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Music by Claire Whitehead aka Midswim
Duration:00:48:44
6 - Showing Off With Each Other (Part 2)
3/26/2024
Tito tap dances while Johnny and Penny do the mambo.
+ Famous tap dancer, Honi Coles + The history of tap and minstrelsy + Shirley Temple (drink and person) + Why some dance is authorized at Kellerman's and some is not + The history of Latin American dance in American movies + Is Dirty Dancing kinda gay?
Works used and mentioned:
How to Make a Shirley Temple
Blackface: The Birth of An American Stereotype
PBS: Blackface Minstrelsy
Blacking Up: The Minstrel Show in Nineteenth-Century America by Robert C. Toll
What the Eye Hears: A History of Tap Dancing by Brian Seibert
NY Times: HONI COLES: RECALLING 50 YEARS OF TAP
Honi Coles does Bill Robinson, 1979
Honi Coles with Chuck Green and Will Gaines 1983
It Happened in the Catskills: An Oral History in the Words of Busboys, Bellhops, Guests, Proprietors, Comedians, Agents, and Others Who Lived It edited by Myrna Katz Frommer and Harvey Frommer
Ballroom, Boogie, Shimmy Sham, Shake: A Social and Popular Dance Reader edited by Julie Malnig
Cuban Pete from The Mask
Cuban Pete by Louis Armstrong
Blog post about Joseph Norman
El Manisero performed by Machin
Stop-motion creepy (or charming??) monkey
Time Magazine: Sugar-Bowl Migrants
Readings on West Side story
Carina's NY Times article on West Side Story
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CARINA DEL VALLE SCHORSKE - website
ADDIE TSAI - website
SONJA THOMAS - Colby College faculty page
For your scene 6 pt 2 thoughts: ellie@buttoutbaby.com Buy me a pot of tea (i.e. small donations) here Follow the show on Instagram
Fashion commentary by visual artist, Christy Kunitzky
Music by Claire Whitehead aka Claire Maeve aka Midswim
Duration:01:14:59
6 - Showing Off With Each Other (Part 1)
1/27/2024
At the evening dance in the Kellerman's "playhouse," Baby and Neil show off their politics.
+ High status US colleges + Peace Corps in the 60s + More on Bull Conner in Birmingham + The white Freedom Riders
Works used and mentioned:
Breach of Peace: Portraits of the 1961 Mississippi Freedom Riders by Eric Etheridge
Behind the Magic Curtain: Secrets, Spies and Unsung White Allies of Birmingham’s Civil Rights Days by TK Thorne
What You Can Do for Your Country: An Oral History of the Peace Corps by Karen Schwarz All You Need Is Love: The Peace Corps and the Spirit of the 1960s by Elizabeth Cobbs Hoffman A Towering Task: The Story of the Peace Corps directed by Alana DeJoseph
The Poison and the Tomb: One family's journey to their contaminated home by Kim Wall, Coleen Jose, and Jan Hendrik Hinzel
BEING BETTER AMERICANS AND DOING IT FOR THEM: THE PEACE CORPS IN MICRONESIA by Craig J. Severance
LA Times: How the U.S. betrayed the Marshall Islands, kindling the next nuclear disaster by Susanne Rust
FBI Knew Policeman Was Leak to Klan on Freedom Riders by Paul Magnusson
1946 Bikini Atoll MGM film
1967 Peace Corps ad
For your scene 6 pt 1 thoughts: ellie@buttoutbaby.com
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Music by Claire Whitehead aka Claire Maeve aka Midswim
Duration:01:03:58
Bonus, Baby! A conversation about notes on creative work
10/1/2023
Over a year ago my friend Andrew interviewed me for his top-notch podcast, Goodest Notes. For various reasons it got lost to the sands of time until now! Listen for:
+ The story of my use of fanfic in a dark time + Tips I heard on a writing podcast years ago and have never forgot + Writing stereotypes and unpacking the note "you don't need to show your work" + Hear me fumble through questions I hadn't prepared answers for!
Goodest Notes podcast
Goodest Notes was created by Andrew Shenkman and Drew Thomas. This episode was edited by moi. ellie@buttoutbaby.com
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Duration:00:36:42
Dirty Debrief Scene 5
9/3/2023
Debrief episodes are for listener feedback on the previous scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. In this episode:
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Music by Claire Whitehead
Duration:00:17:26
5 - Jewish Matchmaking
7/27/2023
At dinnertime, Lisa and Baby are presented with Bachelor number 1 and 2. Featuring Mari Cohen of Jewish Currents.
+ Learning about the terms Jewish American Princess and Nice Jewish Boy + The politics of "Jewish continuity" + The parental scolding line, "There are starving children in..." + My dislike of white tablecloths
Mari and Jewish Currents works mentioned: One the Nose podcast, "The Agony and the Ecstasy of Jewish Matchmaking" Mari's review of the Lox Club dating app
For your scene 5 thoughts: ellie@buttoutbaby.com
Follow the show on Instagram Fashion commentary (usually) by visual artist, Christy Kunitzky
Music by Claire Whitehead aka Claire Maeve aka Midswim
Duration:01:06:15
Dirty Debrief Scene 4
5/11/2023
Debrief episodes are for listener feedback on the previous scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. In this episode:
Podcast The Newsletter
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Music by Claire Whitehead
Duration:00:25:08
4 - Peeping Johnny
4/13/2023
Baby gets her first glimpse into the class structure at Kellerman's ft. Morgan & Isabeau of Whoa!mance
+ Johnny being attractive and gracefully insolent + The female gaze + The strange all-inclusive guest experience of Kellerman's + How bad boy romance leads are introduced and whether Dirty Dancing qualifies as a romance at all!
Whoa!mance: a weekly podcast about Romance Novels and Ourselves
For your scene 4 thoughts: ellie@buttoutbaby.com
Follow the show on Instagram Fashion commentary by visual artist, Christy Kunitzky
Music by Claire Whitehead
Duration:00:50:16
Dirty Debrief Scene 3
3/23/2023
Debrief episodes are for listener feedback on the previous scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. In this episode:
Resources mentioned: Ira Glass on pulling out big ideas in an interview All My Relations podcast episode, "Telling True Stories in a Good Way"
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Music by Claire Whitehead
Duration:00:19:39
3 - Dancing in the Gazebo
2/28/2023
The Houseman's participate in a merengue dance class led by a vibrant and confident dance instructor named Penny. Featuring an interview with a real life dancer and dance instructor.
+ Western culture's relationship to dance + Baby's awkwardness pt. 1 + Mrs. Schumacher being a deviant + The Rockettes and the gender pay gap + Ingénue (not the k.d. lang album, tho it's mentioned)
Marea is not just a dancer/dance instructor, she's also a writer and actor. Check her out if you're in New Zealand!
For your scene 3 thoughts: ellie@buttoutbaby.com
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Music by Claire Whitehead
Duration:00:59:37
Dirty Debrief Scene 2
1/25/2023
Debrief episodes are for listener feedback on the previous scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. In this episode:
Resources mentioned (and others that were used): Parting the Waters: America in the King Years 1954-1963 by Taylor Branch
Law, Society, Identity and the Making of the Jim Crow South: Travel and Segregation on Tennessee Railroads, 1875-1905 by Kenneth W. Mack
Dark Sky Rising: Reconstruction and the Dawn of Jim Crow by Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Tonya Bolden
Ida B. the Queen: The Extraordinary Life and Legacy of Ida B. Wells by Michelle Duster
The Up Series
Paris is Burning Instagram ellie@buttoutbaby.com
Music by Claire Whitehead
Duration:00:42:32
2 - A Real Tragedy
1/2/2023
Jake and Baby school Lisa on what defines a "real" tragedy which led me on a long journey into the history of Jim Crow. Featuring an interview on the Southern Jewish experience with author TK Thorne.
+ Walk Like A Hieroglyph + With what to wear with coral shoes? + A very mysterious joke + The moral authority of Jake Housman
TK's book:
Behind the Magic Curtain: Secrets, Spies and Unsung White Allies of Birmingham’s Civil Rights Days by TK Thorne
tkthorne.com
Other resources: Parting the Waters: America in the King Years 1954-1963 by Taylor Branch
The Road Not Taken: Edward Lansdale and the American Tragedy in Vietnam by Max Boot
Close-Up on War: The Story of Photojournalist Catherine Leroy in Vietnam by Mary Cronk Farrell
Carry Me Home: Birmingham, Alabama: The Climactic Battle of the Civil Rights Revolution by Diane McWhorter
For your scene 2 thoughts: ellie@buttoutbaby.com
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Music by Claire Whitehead
Duration:01:17:44
Dirty Debrief Scene 1
11/14/2022
Debrief episodes will be the place to discuss listener feedback on each scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. This is for the craft nerds! Also, discussed was my struggle to define liberalism and you'll hear me learn the definition of "equivocate" in real time!
Articles I reference about witch trails:
Interview with Rivka Galchen
Spectral Evidence
And History Chicks episode where I learned about Sojourner Truth
Instagram ellie@buttoutbaby.com
Duration:00:20:31
1 - Meet the Summer of 1963
10/29/2022
The very first full scene and it's a doozy! Listen to me marvel at the efficiency of the opening voiceover and learn how truly nerdy this podcast is going to be.
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Music by Claire Whitehead
Duration:00:40:25
0 - Opening Scene aka Who Am I and Why Am I Doing This
8/3/2022
What happens when an obsessive nerd rehabs by watching Dirty Dancing in tiny increments over a span of months.
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Duration:00:05:18