Julie in Conversation

Join me for some space to breathe...together..however deeply or not. No instructions, no curriculum, no advice, suggestions, recommendations or prescriptions for developing inner or peace or how to build solidarity and unity (though we all know that is great). Just a place and a few moments to be, with yourself and what is present, rising, moving, needing your attention before you get on with your day, the work, the hoping and healing and building together. www.JulieinConversation.com

Could you use a good time out, a few moments to pause, to check in, to be with nautre and yourself? Have a listen, nature included. www.JulieinConversation.com Wild Sounds of Canada https://www.audible.ca/ep/wild-sounds-of-canada

A brief invitation into this question. An invitation to join Nicole Schiener and I at our upcoming program Caring Without Carrying It All- A unique virtual program for A Special Virtual Group Program For Sensitive Helping Professionals, Caregivers, Creatives and Changemakers. www.CaringWithoutCarryingItAll.Com

A short audio experience to quiet the noise and return to the wisdom of yourself. www.JulieinConversation.com

What's needing to be refreshed, remembered, rekindled inside you? Take a few minutes to be curious and listen to what's emerging, even if it's not ready to surface (yet).

Discover some of the ways in which you think that are unhelpful and that when examined and surface into your awareness have the chance to alter your mood and well-being for the better. Join us to hear Rebecca Ashery, coach and psychotherapist unpack some of the 15 unhelpful thinking styles, such as polarized thinking, mind reading, catastrophizing, to name just a few. You will gain practical tips and find ways to enhance your self-awareness and overcome negative thinking as Dr. Rebecca Ashery examines and explains the unhelpful ways in which we think (based on the work of Dr. David Burns). 15 unhelpful thinking styles (Cognitive distortions as outlined in the work of Dr. David Burns). Polarized thinking, overgeneralization, personalization, catastrophizing, mind reading (jumping to conclusions), emotional reasoning, labeling, filtering, control fallacies, blaming, always being right, fallacy of change, fallacy of fairness, heaven's reward fallacy. And there are more unhelpful thinking styles such as all-or-nothing thinking, magnification and minimization (magnifying the negative, minimizing the positive), comparison etc. https://www.managermaven.com/ Dr. David Burns- Feeling Good. The New Mood Therapy https://feelinggood.com/ Dr. Ashery holds a PhD and MSW in social work and an MA in Education and Human Resources. She proudly served her country as a commissioned officer in the United States Public Health Service for 30 years holding a variety of leadership and management positions. Dr. Ashery is a licensed clinical social worker in the state of Maryland and in the District of Columbia and has a Diplomate in Clinical Social Work (DCSW). has a PhD in social work and has a Senior Executive Service (SES) Certificate in the federal government. She holds a coaching certificate in Leadership Coaching for Organizational Performance from Rutgers University and a coaching certificate in Strategic Intervention Coaching from the Tony Robbins-Cloe Madanes Training Center. She is a licensed social worker and an ACC certified member of the International Coach Federation. Dr. Ashery’s experience and education provide her with a unique perspective on the needs and challenges of organizations and staff. https://www.managermaven.com/ Julie Cusmariu is broadcasting from unceded Indigenous lands Tiohtia’ke, known as Montreal, Canada which is the traditional territory of the Kanien’kehá:ka. Kanien’kehá:ka and has long served as a gathering place for many First Nations including the Haudenosaunee , st-lawrence iroqouains, mohaawk and Huron-Wendat and is now home to many diverse First Nations, Inuit and Metis peoples. About Julie in Conversation Julie Cusmariu is a Certified Professional Coach, Mentor, Facilitator, Intuitive Consultant and Podcast Host and Producer with over 16 years of experience in the field of coaching, healing, and transformation. Julie supports leaders and change makers trust their intuition, honour the wisdom of their body and use their voice for change. Julie is the host of Julie in Conversation, is the host and creator of Dance Your Intuition and offers the experience of movement and music to individuals and organizations as an opportunity to connect to and access their inner intelligence and wisdom. www.JulieinConversation.com

Because just one epsiode speaking to Deborah MacNamara about her book, 'Nourished: Connection, Food And Caring For Our Kids (and everyone else we love), wasn't nearly enough, I followed up with this episode. In this hour I savour some of the insight received and more content, highlights from my convesation with Deborah, content from the book and reflections on topics covered such as comfort food, how mazlow went wrong, love and caretaking, being the good provider, food as addiction, vulnerable feelings and more. By the end of the podcast, I was connected to my own memories of food and my own vulnerable feelings as I asked Deborah's poignant question, out loud and for all of us to curiously explore our own answer to. "If one person could cook for you, who would it be?" Enjoy. www.JulieinConversation.com www.MacNamara.ca- subscribe to Deborah's newsletter.

"Just because you eat food doesn't mean you're nourished." Deborah MacNamara returns to the podcast with podcast host Julie Cusmariu to discuss her groundbreaking new book, 'Nourished: Connection, Food, And Caring For Our Kids (and everyone else we love). Deborah MacNamara takes us on a deep and insightful journey through storytelling, a fantastic riddle (the answer to which is revealed in this podcast at the end), provocative questions, developmental science and robust research to help us make sense of our relationship to food and to reclaim nourishment. I couldn't agree more with what Dr. Gordon Neufeld declared “After reading this groundbreaking work, it will be impossible for you to ever view food as just food again.” And I just loved this question posed by Deborah on page 74 of the book and to those she interviewed for Nourished "If you could choose one person to cook for you, who would it be?” What a great and poignant question to ask each other and our kids. There is so much to gain from reading this book, so much to digest and take in, so much to savour and explore. May it provide you with as much nourishment as it did for me. Thank you Deborah and thank you everyone for tuning in and for the work you are doing in this world as providers and caretakers. WATCH the conversation with Deborah and Julie HERE Praise for Nourished “After reading this groundbreaking work, it will be impossible for you to ever view food as just food again.” Dr. Gordon Neufeld “ A timely, wise, and much-needed book. In a society that alienates us from our caregiving instincts, its lessons could not be more urgent.” Gabor Maté, MD. "Stunningly beautiful, an ode to love, relationships and food. Dr. MacNamara shows how true nourishmentis about connection and how the family meal can be a celebration of emotional closeness." Mona Delahooke, PhD. www.MacNamara.ca As a trusted and experienced clinical counsellor for over 25 years in mental health and educational settings as well as private practice, Deborah serves as a leading international expert who provides counselling and educational services to support parents, professionals, and educators. She is also a professional speaker who has presented to the United Nations and The Dalai Lama Center for Peace and Education. Deborah specializes in the relational-developmental approach based on the work of Dr. Gordon Neufeld, empowering parents to become the expert on their children with everyday questions and practical strategies. She came to this work as a new mother herself, curious and confident that his approach could shift not only her children’s futures forever, but also her professional approach to supporting and helping others. Today, she serves on Faculty at the Neufeld Institute. Deborah is the author of the best selling book, Rest, Play, Grow: Making Sense of Preschoolers (or anyone who acts like one) which has been translated into 14 languages and the children’s picture book, The Sorry Plane, which is available in three languages. Her newest book is Nourished: Connection, Food, and Caring for our Kids (and everyone else we love). Www.JulieinConversation.com WATCH ON YOUTUBE

When the opportunity arises and you can take a moment to tune ‘it’ all out, if you so choose, maybe this brief meditation (almost four minutes) might resonate for you; a ‘time out’ to slow down, to let ‘it’ go, to momentarily put down the overwhelm. I acknowledge and honor where you may be, the experience you may be living, what you may be navigating, who you may be caring for in addition to yourself. May you feel ease, some relief and care for yourself and each other (those who you know and those who you do not yet know). If we honor and care for your own capacity, would you agree that we make more room to care for and honor and ‘see’ others❓ May you find benefit. Wishing you the best. Wishing you more peace inside. Praying for peace for all beings. ❤️🙏🌎 The title of this meditation shares the name of this 4 week virtual group program Nicole Schiener, (Registered Psychotherapist and Compassion Fatigue Professional), and I are hosting in February 2024 for Sensitive Changemakers, Helping Professionals, Caregivers and Creatives. @peaceandpossibility 😘 🌎✌️❤️ ⭐️February 2024 ⭐️PRE-APPROVED for 3 Continuing Education Credits (CECs) for the Canadian Counselling and Psychotherapy Association. Join us to Reduce overwhelm, reactivity and exhaustion Prevent burnout and compassion fatigue Develop and set better boundaries Know what matters to you and what you want Deepen trust in yourself Know your limits Know your wants Listen to and make sense of your finely tuned nervous system Practice body based exercises and trauma informed experiences to support you in caring without carrying it all Slow down Let go Trust your intuition and somatic knowing. We have designed this program to support you in protecting your time and energy and to honour your capacity and needs as a changemaker, helping professional, creative and caregiver. www.CaringWithoutCarryingItAll.com www.JulieinConversation.com Thanks for tuning in to you.

And be sure to sprinkle in some curiousity, humor and always movement when you can. Though not a prescription, I would say an antidote to swirling emotions and times. Thanks for taking care of you and tuning in to you, first. Enjoy this meditation on carying without carrying it all. When the opportunity arises and you can take a moment to tune ‘it’ all out, if you so choose, maybe this brief meditation (almost four minutes) might resonate for you; a ‘time out’ to slow down, to let ‘it’ go, to momentarily put down the overwhelm. I acknowledge and honor where you may be, the experience you may be living, what you may be navigating, who you may be caring for in addition to yourself. May you feel ease, some relief and care for yourself and each other (those who you know and those who you do not yet know). If we honor and care for your own capacity, would you agree that we make more room to care for and honor and ‘see’ others❓ May you find benefit. Wishing you the best. Wishing you more peace inside. Praying for peace for all beings. ⭐️February 2024 ⭐️PRE-APPROVED for 3 Continuing Education Credits (CECs) for the Canadian Counselling and Psychotherapy Association. Join us to Reduce overwhelm, reactivity and exhaustion Prevent burnout and compassion fatigue Develop and set better boundaries Know what matters to you and what you want Deepen trust in yourself Know your limits Know your wants Listen to and make sense of your finely tuned nervous system Practice body based exercises and trauma informed experiences to support you in caring without carrying it all Slow down Let go Trust your intuition and somatic knowing. We have designed this program to support you in protecting your time and energy and to honour your capacity and needs as a changemaker, helping professional, creative and caregiver. www.CaringWithoutCarryingItAll.com Thanks for tuning in to you. www.JulieCusmariu.com https://scottshigeoka.com/ Seek: How Curiousty Can Change the World One Thought At At Time.

Which best describes you? A. Are you a highly sensitive person? B. Are you an introvert? C. Are you a highly sensitive introvert? Alane Freund and Julie Cusmariu help unpack what it means to be an introvert, how it does and does not relate to being highly sensitive and what you can do, and value about being one or the other, or both! Alane always provides such great practical tips and strategies that will benefit you at home and at work and in the world creating change. "We always say if a person who is highly sensitive can get in a position of power, then they can change the culture." Alane Freund. Let us know in the comments about you and your experience with this topic. Show notes: Join me and Nicole Schiener in February 2024: Caring Without Carrying It All February 2024 with Nicole Schiener and Julie Cusmariu http://caringwithoutcarryingitall.com Discovering Joy retreat. A daylong retreat for HSPS Check it out and sign up here https://alane-freund.mykajabi.com/a/2147718237/znfkopwA Here is Alane Freund, Introvert https://youtu.be/vpfOBIH1VWc?si=-IliqkcGKsWepuCO Introvert Backlash https://youtu.be/8pn3PxbFBlo?si=v_xpMmm2rBpY64qI What Kind of Introvert Are You? https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/what-kind-of-introvert-are-you/ https://scottbarrykaufman.com/the-real-science-of-introversion-and-the-rest-of-personality/ Podcast episode: https://scottbarrykaufman.com/podcast/understanding-the-science-of-introversion-and-extraversion-with-dr-luke-smillie/ Find Alane here: Links to events at https://www.alanefreund.com/events/ To join the AYHS membership for two ongoing AYHS Live workshops a month at well below half price and discounts on Alane's groups and consultation. Follow Alane IG- / areyouhighlysensitive YouTube - / @areyouhighlysensitive Meet Alane Freund, LMFT, International Consultant on High Sensitivity www.alanefreund.com & www.areyouhighlysensitive.com Alane Freund, MS, MA, is an International Consultant on High Sensitivity (ICHS) and family therapist who helps highly sensitive adults and youth focus on solutions through education, consultation, and speaking. She has developed numerous programs for highly sensitive people and clinicians, including her monthly workshops at Are You Highly Sensitive. She is known for her widely recognized Talk at Google, Understanding the Highly Sensitive Person. Alane Freund can be reached through her website, www.alanefreund.com. Julie Cusmariu is broadcasting from unceded Indigenous lands Tiohtia’ke, known as Montreal, Canada which is the traditional territory of the Kanien’kehá:ka. Kanien’kehá:ka and has long served as a gathering place for many First Nations including the Haudenosaunee , st-lawrence iroqouains, mohaawk and Huron-Wendat and is now home to many diverse First Nations, Inuit and Metis peoples. About Julie in Conversation Julie Cusmariu is a Certified Professional Coach, Mentor, Facilitator, Intuitive Consultant and Podcast Host and Producer with over 16 years of experience in the field of coaching, healing, and transformation. Julie supports leaders and change makers trust their intuition, honour the wisdom of their body and use their voice for change. Julie is the host of Julie in Conversation, is the host and creator of Dance Your Intuition and offers the experience of movement and music to individuals and organizations as an opportunity to connect to and access their inner intelligence and wisdom. www.JulieinConversation.com

a meditation. a moment to pause, to make room for what's moving inside you. in the wake of the most recent tragedy and tragedies continuing to unfold in Israel and Palestine. here is a meditation as a space for connection, internally whenever you may listen and however it may speak to you for where you are, what is going on for you and moving through you emotionally. www.JulieinConversation.com

Reflections on slowing down, tuning into our soma, creating space and building capacity with Flavia Jimenez. This week features a conversation between Julie Cusmariu and Flavia Jimenez about the Embodied Social Justice certificate program; take aways, insights gained and what remains to unpack and integrate into life, personally and professionally for them both. We each sought out collaboration on the project and found a connection point through our work as coaches interested in embodiment and somatic awareness for ourselves and the individuals we work with daily. 00:28:30- Flavia shares Insights on ’slowing down’ (as evoked by Resma Menakem in the ESJ Certificate Program), creating space and building capacity as well as her work experience as a lawyer and advocate. 00:38: 00 - On building capacity and the art of holding space 00:30:59- How do we gift ourselves space? 00:54:00- Stumbling upon the title of the podcast offered by Flavia. What if your practice is the interruption? 00:55:00- Flavia walked Julie through a gentle somatic inquiry and practice in real time. 01:00:00 -What it means to have your head below the heart. 001:04:00- Defining the Soma (as explained by Kelsey Blackwell). About Flavia Jimenez Flavia holds a JD from New York Law School and a life coaching certification from Leadership that Works. She received her yoga teaching certificate in 2019 and has a Certificate in Mindful Leadership from Spirit Rock Insight Meditation Center. She is currently focusing her yoga learning on yin and restorative yoga. www.flaviajimenez.com Deep Renewal and Healing in the Sacred Valley of Peru Embodying Social Justice Certificate Program: You can register for this one-of-a-kind, once per year, 3-month certificate program committed to collective liberation by increasing awareness, unlearning oppressive social patterns, repairing relationships and building trust & belonging. This is NOT a summit. Go beyond conventional DEI to where bias and breakdown lives: in the body. https://www.transformativeprograms.com/ www.JulieinConversation.com

It is I. Julie. Returning to the podcast after being away from the mic for 3 months. Inviting me, inviting you, as I return, to wonder, to welcome, to notice what and to whom you are returning. What and who did I leave? What is here now that wasn't previously? www.JulieinConversation.com Join the waitlist before doors open to 'Carying Without Carrying It All'- a 4 week online program with Julie Cusmariu and Nicole Scheiner. We look very forward to welcoming you and offering you a soft place to land to honor your sensitivity and capacity. www.PeaceandPossibility.com www.Kripalu.org https://tererai.org/ www.ElizabethGilbert.com

What happens when you create a distance between yourself and that thing or that person? What happens when you take time to self-orient? Take a listen for some space and practice into letting go of the stronghold, loosening the grip, surrendering, even. What can then take space, breathe, emerge, be expressed? www.JulieinConversation.com

Alane Freund is a cherished guest on the podcast and we have had many conversations, always with a unique focus through the lens of High Sensitivity. In this episode, as Alane put it best, we have come together around “ the theme of Mental Health Awareness Month. We weave in and around many topics, including ADHD and Anxiety as overlays to HSP.” Let us know what you gain from this conversation. It’s been so nice hearing from listeners already around this topic as I have begun to share it in my stories and on social networks. We are here for you. May you feel support around normalizing these topics and gain your own insight to whatever you may be curious about, wondering about and navigating for yourself, the children and youth you are raising, and for your clients, family members and friends. Here are links from my previous conversations with Alane. https://juliecusmariu.com/2023/01/highly-sensitive-person/highly-sensitive-parents-a-conversation-with-alane-freund-and-julie-cusmariu/ https://juliecusmariu.com/2020/09/voices-that-create-change/alane-freund-on-being-a-highly-sensitive-person-in-uncertain-times/ https://juliecusmariu.com/2018/08/julie-in-conversation-motherhood/alane-freund/ Time stamps for the audio podcast. Show notes. 00:13:57-The conversation with Alane begins. 00:14:59- Julie shows off a touching mother’s day gift from her boys and Alane talks about her 22 year old son wishing her Happy Mother's Day. 00:21:00- What does it mean to have accommodations at school for kids with certain challenges. 00:24:45 - Through the lens of High Sensitivity and those with the trait of sensitivity: The world is designed for the majority of people (80%). How do the 20% take exams? What about multiple choice exams and self-assessments? And who's designing these assessments and curriculum anyway? 00:28:15- Alane’s hack for succeeding with self-assessments. 00:30:02- The complexity and importance of understanding neurodivergence and mental illness. 00:33:00- HSP can look like ADHD, how? 00:36:45- Anxiety, overwhelm and high sensitivity. 00:40:55- ADD and ADHD, the distinctions. 00:47:00- Misdiagnosis- Is it ADHD or HSP? How to prevent a misdiagnosis. 00:51:00- Can both HSP and ADHD be present in an individual? 00:51:40- How do we treat anxiety and ADHD? 00:53:30- The tweet that activated Julie’s biological alarm system. A post by Adam Grant. 00:54:49- #WaitUntil8th 00:58:48- One way to support mental health in your kids. 01:02:00- Executive Functioning, clarified. 01:04:10- Differentiating between high sensitivity and ADHD. 0:1:07:10- Julie speaks about her experience with anxiety, as a HSP. 01:08:10- #1 most effective treatment for anxiety, according to Alane, clinically. 01:14:10- Medication for ADHD and its effectiveness. Being curious about potential misdiagnosis for an HSP. 01:15:44- Ways to connect with Alane. WATCH our conversation here on YOUTUBE. https://youtu.be/NzSKQnpyp1Q Alane Freund, MS, MA, is an International Consultant on High Sensitivity (ICHS) and family therapist who helps highly sensitive adults and youth focus on solutions through education, consultation, and speaking. She has developed numerous programs for highly sensitive people and clinicians, including her monthly workshops at Are You Highly Sensitive. She is known for her widely recognized Talk at Google, Understanding the Highly Sensitive Person. Alane Freund can be reached through her website, alanefreund.com. Alane's talk at Google: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tKDnsns2bg Are you Highly Sensitive? Take the self-test here. https://hsperson.com/test/highly-sensitive-test/ A (Canadian) Public Health Approach to Population Mental Wellness https://tinyurl.com/4p4jvkv7 What is Mental Health? What is Mental Illness? https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/mental-health-strengthening-our-response https://tinyurl.com/bd6pvbwy Find Alane here: Links to events at https://www.alanefreund.com/events/ Follow...

Nicole Schiener on 'Caring without Carrying it All' in conversation with Julie Cusmariu on the Julie in Conversation podcast. More of what we talked about in Part 2 of our conversation. -Women are socialized to devalue their time. @17:45 mins and we explored one the rules described in Eve Rodsky's book, FAIR PLAY ( A Game-Changing Solution for When You Have To Much To Do): Rule #1-ALL TIME IS CREATED EQUAL and how we have existed inside a construct in which men's time is treated as finite but women's as infinite. -What might equity in relationship look like. -Tips and insights on raising our kids to honor time and responsibility. Including at what age we may expect kids to start making their own lunches and cleaning their rooms. We spoke to the invisible work, the mental load, the emotional labour and all that shows up in a day's work (and that's outside of the work we get paid for). And much more with some levity and warmth. "We expect women to work like they don't have children and raise children like they don't have work." Amy Westervelt. Quote shared in 'FAIR PLAY'. You can WATCH this episode on You Tube. Nicole Schiener Nicole Schiener is an Award Winning Registered Psychotherapist in Ontario Canada. She's a Certified Gottman Bringing Baby Home Educator and regular contributor to the Gottman Blog. As part of her recovery from burn out, Nicole became a Certified Compassion Fatigue Professional facilitating wellness workshops to other helping professionals. Nicole is passionate about fostering healthy relationships at home and work and is on a mission to liberate mothers from perfectionism and the pressure to do it all. A proud mom of teens, she loves reading memoirs and being in Nature. Visit her website ( https://peaceandpossibility.ca) Listen to Part 1 here. https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/nicole-schiener-on-caring-without-carrying-it-all-part-1-of-2/id310513252?i=1000607591491 Or WATCH part 1. https://youtu.be/ZFvn406cpGA About Julie in Conversation Julie Cusmariu is a Certified Professional Coach, Certified Mentor Coach, Experienced Facilitator, Intuitive Consultant and Podcast Host and Producer with over 16 years of experience in the field of coaching, healing, and transformation. Julie supports leaders and change makers trust their intuition, honour the wisdom of their body and use their voice for change. Julie supports individuals in making better decisions, gain clarity and lead with meaning and purpose. Julie is also a media consultant for international film, TV, and podcast productions on networks such as CBC, Arte, TVO, TFO, Audible. For over 12 years Julie has been interviewing thought leaders and bestselling authors on her widely listened to podcast 'Julie in Conversation’,a podcast dedicated to individual and collective healing and change. Julie works with individuals, groups and organizations worldwide. Julie is pulled by curiosity and fuelled by passion and is both fascinated and humbled by the human experience, daily. www.JulieinConversation.com

This podcast inspired by the experiences of the Ice Storm April 2023 in Montreal. Take this time for you to listen and notice what's rising up, for you? To awakening and feeling all of your senses, alive, awake, on purpose. Between airing Part 1 of my meaningful conversation with @peaceandpossibility , Nicole Schiener, on “Caring without Carrying It All” and airing Part 2 of our conversation that was scheduled for the following week, we had an ice storm. It brought many things and people to a halt and many trees and branches to the ground. I took time this week on the podcast to pause and move through some feelings knowing the trees I run to and am surrounded by throughout my week and all throughout the year took a hit by the storm. In this episode I share what that was like and move through some emotions along the way. Whether it’s a storm caused by the weather or another life experience that feels stormy and disorienting, maybe you will find something for yourself in this episode. #julieinconversation #voicesthatcreatechange #natureswisdom #touchedbynature #momofboys #parenting #wisdomofthetrees #icfcoach #podcastforchange #spiritualitypodcast #morningrun Thanks for tuning in to you, and here, to Julie in Conversation. www.JulieinConversation.com

Nicole Schiener is passionate about fostering healthy relationships at home and work and is on a mission to liberate mothers from perfectionism and the pressure to do it all. Part 1 of my conversation with Nicole Schiener included the following: -Topics connected to Eve Rodsky’s book, FAIRPLAY- A Game Changing Solution for When You Have Too Much to Do (and More Life to Live). i.e. the misconception that women have infinite time and men have finite time. As Eve Rodsky says in her book- -Recovering from the pandemic -Burnout and Compassion Fatigue and the difference between the two. -How therapy can support you -In Nicole’s words, the importance of "Caring without carrying the responsibilities." Nicole Schiener Nicole Schiener is an Award Winning Registered Psychotherapist in Ontario Canada. She's a Certified Gottman Bringing Baby Home Educator and regular contributor to the Gottman Blog. As part of her recovery from burn out, Nicole became a Certified Compassion Fatigue Professional facilitating wellness workshops to other helping professionals. Nicole is passionate about fostering healthy relationships at home and work and is on a mission to liberate mothers from perfectionism and the pressure to do it all. A proud mom of teens, she loves reading memoirs and being in Nature. Visit her website ( https://peaceandpossibility.ca) https://peaceandpossibility.ca/free-resources

Take this time to remember who you are, and what it feels like when you connect to yourself in this way. Thanks to for tuning in to yourself today. www.JulieCusmariu.com