The Blue Light Leavers Podcast

In this episode, I'm talking with former police officer, Paul Rowland. Paul is a Deputy Manager in the care sector, predominantly caring for young people who are no longer within the family environment, whether through behaviour or because of specific learning requirements. Much of this is on a 1:1 basis and is incredibly rewarding and utilises so many of the skills we pick up in our policing careers. Paul worked on response, CID and firearms and left policing after 10 years with no specific young person related experience. He moved into the security industry and then during Covid and lockdown, he was introduced to the care sector and hasn't looked back. Unified Care Services provide a specialist service that aims to support young people with complex social and emotional needs, whose behaviours can be seen to challenge systems and services, and who are currently finding that other integration methods do not currently support or suit their individual needs. Handpicked staff with specialist backgrounds are trained to specifically meet the needs of the young people they support. They manage their challenging behaviours, supporting all the agencies who provide the necessary health, social and education care. They utilise knowledge from different industries to ensure they're able to deal with any situation with the best possible outcome for young people. You can register an interest HERE : office@unifiedcareservices.org. If you like what you've heard, then please leave a review and share it with friends and let people know that this podcast is out there. There's a lot of people looking at the moment, a lot of people struggling and so if there's a particular episode that resonates with you then just share it via WhatsApp or text and just let people know that it's there. If you go to the website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bluelightleavers.com/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠there's loads of information there about some of the amazing partnerships that we've got, CV writing services and LinkedIn and interview prep, and tonnes of free stuff both within the Facebook group and on the website as well. We also advertise dozens of amazing jobs, every day in the private Facebook Group! If you've no idea where to start, you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck, and just not sure what career you think would be best suited for you or what steps you need to take to make it happen, then you can book a career clarity coaching call through this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Clarity Call⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This is 1:1 time via Zoom with me, to help you get complete clarity and identify the roles and courses that are best suited to you, create an action plan and overcome any blockers you may have. The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! You can join the private Facebook Group via⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

In this episode, I'm talking with Simon Chicken who is the Event Director of the International Franchise Show being held at the Excel in London, on Fri 12th and Sat 13th April 2024, and Daniel McCarthy who is the Director of Business Development. Today we're talking about why franchising is a really good fit for cops, military and other emergency service professionals, whatever their length of service, and why this particular business model works so well. We talk about the success rate and stats, the pros and cons and the risks, and what you can expect at the IFS and how to make the best use of it, and most importantly, it's completely free! You can get your FREE tickets HERE: If you like what you've heard, then please leave a review and share it with friends and let people know that this podcast is out there. There's a lot of people looking at the moment, a lot of people struggling and so if there's a particular episode that resonates with you then just share it via WhatsApp or text and just let people know that it's there. If you go to the website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bluelightleavers.com/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠there's loads of information there about some of the amazing partnerships that we've got, CV writing services and LinkedIn and interview prep, and tonnes of free stuff both within the Facebook group and on the website as well. We also advertise dozens of amazing jobs, every day in the private Facebook Group! If you've no idea where to start, you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck, and just not sure what career you think would be best suited for you or what steps you need to take to make it happen, then you can book a career clarity coaching call through this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Clarity Call⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This is 1:1 time via Zoom with me, to help you get complete clarity and identify the roles and courses that are best suited to you, create an action plan and overcome any blockers you may have. The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! You can join the private Facebook Group via⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Tina is the owner of Safe and Sound, who are a First Aid Training provider. They also deliver health and safety training, conflict management and numerous other training programmes to public and private sector organisations. Phil is a former cop who's now delivering first aid training on behalf of Safe and Sound and in this episode, we talk through his policing career and what he's done since leaving policing. We also talk about why we're a really good fit for this particular type of work. If you don't have the necessary qualifications right now, they will, at a discounted rate, provide train the trainer qualifications, so you can deliver training and work for/with them. We discuss the costs and the type of career paths that can follow, whether full time or part time, and it really is a great opportunity. If you're interested, Tina has very kindly offered an opportunity to watch a course being delivered, so you can get a real feel for whether it's the right fit for you. This is a really insightful interview and I'm very grateful to Tina for offering this career opportunity to members, and to Phil for telling us his post-policing story. You can register an interest through this link and Tina will be in touch : Safe and Sound First Aid If you like what you've heard, then please leave a review and share it with friends and let people know that this podcast is out there. There's a lot of people looking at the moment, a lot of people struggling and so if there's a particular episode that resonates with you then just share it via WhatsApp or text and just let people know that it's there. If you go to the website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bluelightleavers.com/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠there's loads of information there about some of the amazing partnerships that we've got, CV writing services and LinkedIn and interview prep, and tonnes of free stuff both within the Facebook group and on the website as well. We also advertise dozens of amazing jobs, every day in the private Facebook Group! If you've no idea where to start, you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck, and just not sure what career you think would be best suited for you or what steps you need to take to make it happen, then you can book a career clarity coaching call through this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Clarity Call⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This is 1:1 time via Zoom with me, to help you get complete clarity and identify the roles and courses that are best suited to you, create an action plan and overcome any blockers you may have. The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! You can join the private Facebook Group via⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Welcome to Episode 82 of the Blue Light Leavers podcast. In this episode I'm talking to Simon and Angela Barry. In our first call, Simon really was genuinely pretty broken. He was lacking self-confidence, self-esteem, and he'd clearly been through a really tough time. They'd applied for a load of jobs with no success getting through to interviews, so we ended up working one to one. Why did I interview both? Well, I really wanted to share how PTSD and ill-health, retirement and all the associated symptoms and stress of the situation, can really impact everyone around you. Angela was so supportive, and she was very much part of this process, and she actually joined us for every call that we had. We talk about how we found the right roles, the application process, the interview prep, being ghosted, and the impact of dealing with the knockbacks and what success felt like with the choice of two jobs. I promise this is a stunning and very honest account of what they went through, and I really hope you enjoy it. I'm so grateful to Simon and Angela for their time and their honesty. If you like what you've heard ,then please leave a review and share it with friends and let people know that this podcast is out there. There's a lot of people looking at the moment, a lot of people struggling and so if there's a particular episode that resonates with you then just share it via WhatsApp or text and just let people know that it's there. If you go to the website ⁠⁠⁠https://www.bluelightleavers.com/ ⁠⁠⁠there's loads of information there about some of the amazing partnerships that we've got, CV writing services and LinkedIn and interview prep, and loads of other things as well, and tonnes of free stuff both within the Facebook group and on the website as well. We also advertise dozens of amazing jobs, every day in the private Facebook Group! If you've no idea where to start, you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck, and just not sure what career you think would be best suited for you or what steps you need to take to make it happen, then you can book a career clarity coaching call through this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Clarity Call⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This is 1:1 time via Zoom with me, to help you get complete clarity and identify the roles and courses that are best suited to you, create an action plan and overcome any blockers you may have. The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! You can join the private Facebook Group via⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Welcome to episode 81 of the Blue Light Leavers podcast which is a little bit different. This episode features Hannah Bailey, Fraser Bishop, John Edmunds and Andy Labrum. This is an audio recording of our first New Year, Live session in ⁠The Blue Light Leavers Academy⁠, which is our low-cost monthly membership. In this session, we share the successes of our Academy members who moved into new roles, and some of the highlights of the year, and a good friend of the group, Fraser Bishop, shares his amazing success story and details of his incredible new role at Netflix! We also look forward and talk about what's coming in 2024 for Blue Light Leavers and Hannah Bailey of ⁠Blue Light Wellbeing⁠ shares some hints and tips about how to set goals and New Year resolutions the right way! If you like what you've heard ,then please leave a review and share it with friends and let people know that this podcast is out there. There's a lot of people looking at the moment, a lot of people struggling and so if there's a particular episode that resonates with you then just share it via WhatsApp or text and just let people know that it's there and please leave a review. If you go to the website ⁠⁠https://www.bluelightleavers.com/ ⁠⁠there's loads of information there about some of the amazing partnerships that we've got, CV writing services and LinkedIn and interview prep, and loads of other things as well, and tonnes of free stuff both within the Facebook group and on the website as well. We also advertise dozens of amazing jobs, every day in the private Facebook Group! If you've no idea where to start, you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck, and just not sure what career you think would be best suited for you or what steps you need to take to make it happen, then you can book a career clarity coaching call through this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Clarity Call⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This is 1:1 time via Zoom with me, to help you get complete clarity and identify the roles and courses that are best suited to you, create an action plan and overcome any blockers you may have. The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! You can join the private Facebook Group via ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Ep.80 From Policing to Investigative Consultancy and Training Provider with Sukie Madahar Sukie is a former Detective Sergeant, and he is the founder of Swift Investigations Limited and Swift Edification. They offer specialist education and consultancy services and they also provide training courses to businesses globally and they're accredited to deliver trainer sessions for Level 3 and Level 4 training and Quality Assessing qualifications. He's a really good guy, he serves from the heart and he's really willing to help. He also gives us an amazing offer towards the end of this podcast, so, listen out for that. The opportunities within the training sector, particularly adult learning are huge, so, if you are interested then you know where to go and mention Blue Light Leavers to get the discount. If you like what you've heard then please leave a review and share it with friends and let people know that this podcast is out there. There's a lot of people looking at the moment, a lot of people struggling and so if there's a particular episode that resonates with you then just share it via WhatsApp or text and just let people know that it's there and please leave a review. If you go to the website https://www.bluelightleavers.com/ there's loads of information there about some of the amazing partnerships that we've got, CV writing services and LinkedIn and interview prep, and loads of other things as well, and tonnes of free stuff both within the Facebook group and on the website as well. We also advertise dozens of amazing jobs, every day in the private Facebook Group. If you've no idea where to start, you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck, and just not sure what career you think would be best suited for you or what steps you need to take to make it happen, then you can book a career clarity coaching call through this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Clarity Call⁠⁠⁠⁠ This is 1:1 time via Zoom with me, to help you get complete clarity and identify the roles and courses that are best suited to you, create an action plan and overcome any blockers you may have. The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠Motor Source Group.⁠⁠⁠⁠ They offer genuine, new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. To find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can join the private Facebook Group via ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Ep.79 Why So Many Police Officers Are Leaving - with Professor Sarah Charman and Dr Jemma Tyson. Professor Sarah Charman is a Professor of Criminology, and Dr Jemma Tyson, a senior lecturer in Criminology, both work at the University of Portsmouth. You may be aware that they conducted a study entitled ‘Voluntary resignations from the police service: the impact of organisational and occupational stressors on organisational commitment’, that looks at the reasons and rationale behind the exponential increase in voluntary resignations of police officers. What it's shown is that there's been a 72% increase within twelve months and a 200% increase within ten years, and it's having a massive impact. We talk about the research that was conducted and how they went about doing it. We talk about their findings and the impact, and we look at what's being done from a national and organisational perspective and also by the Federation. We also talk about the importance of intervention and what can be done to reverse this, and we also talk about next steps for them. It's an incredibly insightful and interesting interview and I think you're really going to enjoy this. 🙌If you like what you heard, then please leave a review. You can do that on Spotify and on Apple. If you do appreciate what it is that we're doing, if you could leave a review, it really helps because it just helps to get the message out there. If you've no idea where to start, you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck, and just not sure what career you think would be best suited for you or what steps you need to take to make it happen, then you can book a career clarity coaching call through this link: ⁠⁠⁠Clarity Call⁠⁠⁠ This is 1:1 time via Zoom with me, to help you get complete clarity and identify the roles and courses that are best suited to you, create an action plan and overcome any blockers you may have. The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com)⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠Motor Source Group.⁠⁠⁠ They offer genuine, new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. To find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠ You can join the private Facebook Group via ⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

From Policing to Senior Project Manager at Turner Townsend Consultancy. In this episode I talk to former firearms sergeant and 1:1 client of mine, Josh Penwill. In this interview, we talk about why he left policing, the steps we took to identify the type of roles and what was going to suit him best and his salary expectations, and we talk through the right courses that would help him. We also talk through the transferable skills that he's found have really helped him in his new role. We talk about the interview processes and the applications that we went through, what he learned from the knockbacks and how we dealt with those. We also talk about the importance of networking, the day in the life of a consultant and so much more. If you would like to connect with Josh, the best way is through LinkedIn https://bit.ly/45crgA6 He's such a great guy who will help you without shadow of a doubt. So, thanks again to Josh for his time. Brilliant interview. If you like what you heard, then please leave a review. You can do that on Spotify and on Apple. I think I said on the last one, we've had tens of thousands of downloads, but not that many reviews. So, if you do appreciate what it is that we're doing, if you could leave a review, it really helps because it just helps to get the message out there. If you've no idea where to start, you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck, and just not sure what career you think would be best suited for you or what steps you need to take to make it happen, then you can book a career clarity coaching call through this link: ⁠⁠⁠Clarity Call⁠⁠⁠ This is 1:1 time via Zoom with Andy, to help you get complete clarity and identify the roles and courses that are best suited to you, create an action plan and overcome any blockers you may have. The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com)⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠Motor Source Group.⁠⁠⁠ They offer genuine, new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. To find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠ You can join the private Facebook Group via ⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers⁠⁠⁠ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

From ill-health Retirement to Published Fiction Author with Tracy Earl. Tracy is a former police officer who served for 26 years before having to retire through ill-health, due to a diagnosis of PTSD. She has since gone on to become a published author of a book called Darkness Rising in a series called Children of the Light and signed by a US publishing house for a trilogy. In this episode we cover the whole process from that initial seed of an idea, all the way through to becoming a published author, with an amazing story for young adults that I think, without a doubt has got film written all over it as well. I really hope you enjoy hearing Tracy’s incredible and amazingly inspirational story as much as I did, recording it. To find out more about Tracy's book you watch this brilliant promo video using this link: https://bit.ly/DarknesRisingVideo The book is available now through Amazon and Waterstone's! If you've no idea where to start, you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck, and just not sure what career you think would be best suited for you or what steps you need to take to make it happen, then you can book a career clarity coaching call through this link: ⁠⁠⁠Clarity Call⁠⁠⁠ This is 1:1 time via Zoom with Andy, to help you get complete clarity and identify the roles and courses that are best suited to you, create an action plan and overcome any blockers you may have. The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com)⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠Motor Source Group.⁠⁠⁠ They offer genuine, new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. To find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠ You can join the private Facebook Group via ⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers⁠⁠⁠ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Welcome to Ep. 76 of the Blue Light Leavers Podcast. Hope you've all had a fantastic summer, despite the weather! We've had a few weeks away and we're back with an amazing interview with Jim Bishop and Gavin Crowther who are the founders of Red Air Media. Red Air Media are a specialist drone company, and they use drones for filming, surveys, photography, inspection works and more. In this interview we talk about how drones have changed the way we work, the speed of expansion, and what an amazing opportunity it is as a career option, or as an option for cops who've retired and looking to own their own business. Red Air Media don't just fly drones! They're actually an award-winning media team that provides drone content for massive brands and broadcast TV across the globe and have undertaken numerous programmes for the BBC including DIY SOS, Countryfile and many others and they've got over 35 years industry experience and they are just really lovely blokes. This is a fantastic opportunity to partner with a genuine 'Best in Class' company and access their training, systems, expertise and knowledge. You can find out more and contact them through: Website - https://bit.ly/RedAirMedia Email - enquiries@redairmedia.com Telephone - 0800 999 1399 and let them know you're from Blue Light Leavers or you heard it on the Blue Light Leavers podcast! If you've no idea where to start, you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck, and just not sure what career you think would be best suited for you or what steps you need to take to make it happen, then you can book a career clarity coaching call through this link: ⁠⁠Clarity Call⁠⁠ This is 1:1 time via Zoom with Andy, to help you get complete clarity and identify the roles and courses that are best suited to you, create an action plan and overcome any blockers you may have. The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to ⁠⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠⁠ Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: ⁠⁠⁠'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com)⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠Motor Source Group.⁠⁠ They offer genuine, new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. To find out more, go to ⁠⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠⁠ You can join the private Facebook Group via ⁠⁠www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers⁠⁠ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Welcome to Episode 75 of the Blue Light Leavers Podcast Today, I've got the absolute privilege of talking to Anna Allerton. As a former journalist and producer, she enjoyed a 17 year career at Sky Sports in varying senior roles with the most prominent in founding and producing the sportswomen program. An industry leader in women's sport journalism throughout her career, she's been hugely influential and at the forefront of the changing landscape for women's sport on screen and in the newsroom. She now specialises in perimenopause and menopause because she knows firsthand what impact it can have on your career. Soon after returning to work after having a second child at the age of thirty nine, A variety of perimenopause symptoms started to deeply impact her day-to-day life. These became progressively worse and impossible to manage as time went on. Now research suggests that up to 1,000,000 women have changed their roles or quit their jobs because of this, and she is one of them. She's deeply passionate to do whatever she can to support women, their partners, and their employers during this time to raise awareness, educate and encourage collaborative conversations in the workplace. In this episode, we talk about signs and symptoms and the impact on confidence and self esteem, and we discuss what you can do to help yourself, what you can do as a partner and how to have a conversation with your employer,. We signpost support networks, loads more. Anna is doing amazing work, and you can connect with her through her website, allertoncoaching.com. This episode is sponsored by ⁠Motor Source Group.⁠ They offer genuine, new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. To find out more, go to ⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠ You can join the private Facebook Group via ⁠www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers⁠ If you've no idea where to start, you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck, and just not sure what career you think would be best suited for you or what steps you need to take to make it happen, then you can book a career clarity coaching call through this link: Clarity Call This is 1:1 time via Zoom with Andy, to help you get complete clarity and identify the roles and courses that are best suited to you, create an action plan and overcome any blockers you may have. The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to ⁠www.bluelightleavers.com⁠ Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: ⁠'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com)⁠ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Welcome to Episode 74 of the Blue Light Leavers Podcast So today I'm talking with Lewis Willcox. Lewis is a consultant with a really highly sought after, well known recruitment company called Investigo and deals predominantly with change and transformation programmes in policing, public sector and government organisations. He's really highly respected and a really good guy. I've known him for a number of years now and I've had a relationship with Investigo for a few years because of the type of work that I've been doing. Now, in this interview, we discuss a recruiter's perspective and we talk about the type of organisations and types of roles he recruits for. We also talk about Change Management and Transformation programmes, and the opportunities and skill sets that he's looking for, and we talk about the challenges some of these organisations have in finding the right staff and how you, with your experience and your background, regardless of your level of service or rank, could be a really good fit. It's a brilliant interview and I'm really grateful to him for his time. This episode is sponsored by Motor Source Group. They offer genuine, new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. To find out more, go to www.bluelightleavers.com You can join the private Facebook Group via www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers is a low cost, no tie-in monthly subscription that gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for a bit more support and want to find out more, go to www.bluelightleavers.com Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: 'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com) You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Welcome to Episode 73 of the Blue Light Leavers Podcast Now, what we wanted to do was give you a bit of an insight into the type of live interviews we do within The Academy from Blue Light Leavers. The Academy is a no tie in, really low fee monthly membership, and we have loads of guest speakers, including lots of cops that have moved into new roles and we talk about why and how they've gone about doing it. We also have conversations with CV and LinkedIn experts and subject matter experts from different organisations, recruiters and all sorts and I really wanted to give you just an insight into the type of calls that we do, that are live Q and A type sessions within The Academy. So this is a bit different to our usual podcast episode. Laura McKeeman is a former police officer, who left policing after training through our collaboration with WithYouWithMe and is now working as a consultant in Leonardo, for WYWM. WithYouWithMe are an organisation that were previously only open to Military Leavers, but are now open to Blue Light Leavers and they offer you a complete career path into the tech industry, that includes placements and their training is completely free. This was an opportunity for The Academy Members to join the call and to listen to Laura's story, and then an opportunity to ask her some questions at the end, which you'll hear. I really hope you enjoy this, and like I said, I just wanted to give you a bit of a taster as to the type of calls and the type of things that we do within The Academy that are very different from the normal Blue Light Leavers group. Now, within this episode, we talk about what she was doing in her career in the police, and we talk about why she left and how she felt about leaving as well, and we talk about her experience of the training, and the type of training that she did with WithYouWithMe and her last day in the police service and we talk about the new environment and then she's asked a couple of questions from Academy members at the end. I really hope you enjoy this, and like I say, if you want to join us in The Academy, then you can just go to www.bluelightleavers.com, click on Work With Me, and you'll see The Academy drop down from there. We've had so many success stories through The Academy and I'm really proud of what we're doing, so hopefully we'll see you there. This episode is sponsored by Motor Source Group. They offer genuine, new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. To find out more, go to www.bluelightleavers.com You can join the private Facebook Group via www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for support and want to find out more, go to www.bluelightleavers.com Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: 'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com) You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

I'm incredibly proud to be able to announce another collaboration with a partner offering employment opportunities to Blue Light Leavers. Career Forces, is the brainchild of Military Veteran Andy Howe, who spent over 4 decades serving in the military and civil service. He and I met a few weeks back at an event organised by Forces Transition Group and we immediately hit it off. Career Forces are a socially responsible recruitment organisation, and a certified social enterprise, which means they donate at least 20% of their profits to charity, and they truly believe in helping and supporting those who have bravely supported our country and society, whether military or blue light. Andy Howe and Career Forces have fantastic relationships with amazing organisations and some exceptional employment opportunities, and he helps those organisations understand the benefits and character traits of military and blue light professionals. You can find out more by following this link : Career Forces and make sure you connect with Andy. He's so keen to help you find that next role, and this really is an incredible opportunity and I'm so pleased to be able to offer this to you. This episode is sponsored by Motor Source Group. They offer genuine, new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. To find out more, go to www.bluelightleavers.com You can join the private Facebook Group via www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for support and want to find out more, go to www.bluelightleavers.com Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: 'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com) You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Welcome to Episode 71 of the Blue Light Leavers podcast. Luke Chadwick is a former professional footballer who made his mark as a talented midfielder during his time at Manchester United, going on to play for numerous clubs, including West Ham, Norwich City, MK Dons, Cambridge Utd and others. Known for his dedication and perseverance, he was hugely admired for his work ethic, versatility, and ability to create scoring opportunities. In this episode we talk about Luke's football career, from grassroots schoolboy to his debut for Manchester United and beyond, and the lessons he learned from his time under Sir Alex Ferguson. Luke also talks really openly about his career highs and lows and how difficult he found it coming to terms with the end of his career and loss of identity, and how he ultimately had to seek help and learn to be vulnerable and grieve. There are so many similarities between a lifelong career in sport and a career as a first responder. Post-retirement, Luke has become a respected figure in football analysis and commentary, sharing his valuable insights and experiences, and is a Director of The Football Fun Factory where their mission is to use the nation’s passion for football as a vehicle for child development, and where the focus isn't simply on development or progression… they focus on having fun, and you can find out more, and potentially own your own Football Fun Factory franchise, by contacting Luke on luke@thefootballfunfactory.co.uk and mention the podcast! Luke's mindset throughout his career and post football, is so inspiring and I'm incredibly grateful for his time and honesty. This episode is sponsored by Motor Source Group. MSG offer genuine new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. I promise you; you will make savings. To find out more, go to https://www.bluelightleavers.com Don't forget, you can join the private Facebook Group via www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including live sessions with Andy and others who've been there and done it along with subject matter experts, talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and so much more, so if you're looking for a little more help and support and want to find out more, you can go to https://www.bluelightleavers.com/ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Welcome to episode 70 of the Blue Light Leavers Podcast In this episode, I've the absolute pleasure of talking with Amanda Whittaker. Amanda is the founder of Super Simple Sleep and the Baby Sleep Support Facebook Community. In the episode, she talks us through her policing career history and some of the challenges she had being, balancing being a new mum and a police officer. She goes on to explain how she invested in herself and her knowledge, and how she's gone on to create a business, out of something that many new parents go through. She said 'It got to a point where I wasn’t coping, I was so sleep deprived I couldn’t function, it made my anxiety soar through the roof, I wasn’t able to keep up with household chores as much as I wanted. But more than anything, I wasn’t being the mother I thought I would be. Lack of patience, moody, snappy, didn’t want to go anywhere, didn’t have the energy to play with my son, I ended up resenting my husband for going to work as he got a break from it all. That’s when I knew something had to change.' Amanda tells us how she built her business alongside her policing role, with the job's permission, and got to the point where she's been able to leave policing completely and focus on her, her family and her business. This is such an inspirational interview! Let me know what you think! This episode is sponsored by Motor Source Group. MSG offer genuine new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. I promise you; you will make savings. To find out more, go to https://www.bluelightleavers.com Don't forget, you can join the private Facebook Group via www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including live sessions with Andy and others who've been there and done it along with subject matter experts, talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and so much more, so if you're looking for a little more help and support and want to find out more, you can go to https://www.bluelightleavers.com/ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Welcome to episode 69 of the Blue Light Leavers Podcast In this episode, I'm incredibly honoured to be speaking with Donna Ohdedar. She's the Managing Director of Review Consulting, she's a keynote public speaker, she's previously been the Head of Law for a large Metropolitan Authority, she's a safeguarding advisor and mentor, and she delivers a University Accredited programme called SILP School and you can find out more HERE. In this interview, she talks about how to become an independent consultant, delivering safeguarding and domestic homicide reviews. She explains why this is a fantastic career path for cops and we discuss all of the the sought after skills and behaviours. We also talk about the SILP programme itself and the support you'll get through the programme. This episode is sponsored by Motor Source Group. MSG offer genuine new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. I promise you; you will make savings. To find out more, go to https://www.bluelightleavers.com Don't forget, you can join the private Facebook Group via www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including live sessions with Andy and others who've been there and done it along with subject matter experts, talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and so much more, so if you're looking for a little more help and support and want to find out more, you can go to https://www.bluelightleavers.com/ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

Welcome to episode 68 of the Blue Light Leavers Podcast Today, I've got the absolute pleasure of talking with Gareth Keyte. Gareth is a former Police Officer and Royal Marine Commando, and in this episode he talks us through his policing career where he reached the rank of Detective Inspector. Whilst serving, Gareth had identified a particular process within his organisation that resulted in him having to report the issue to, and subsequently challenge a senior officer, who then made it his mission to do all he could to make Gareth's life as difficult as possible, in every possible way. It's an extraordinary and heart breaking story, and Gareth goes on to explain the impact on his mental health and the signs and symptoms that manifested themselves, as a result of the behaviour of the individual and the lack of support of the organisation. This resulted in him having to leave on ill-health retirement after 21 years service, and he talks us through his struggle with the loss of identity, his ongoing recovery and treatment, and how he's since gone on to re-train and create Oxygen Coaching Company in partnership with his wife, Dawn. He talks about the importance of being proactive in supporting your own mental health, and he talks about the importance of not relying on an overwhelmed organisation to provide the right support and how damaging the 'big boys don't cry' culture is. He also shows us that there really is life after policing and that it's a mindset shift, by learning to reject 'learned helplessness.' We also go on to talk about reactive versus proactive mental health support and what can and should be in place? This is an extraordinary interview and Gareth is so honest and open about his struggles and the challenges he's had, but it's so inspiring and he's gone on to do some amazing things, including being asked to deliver a keynote speech by senior police leaders, to the National Police Chiefs'​ Council and the Disabled Police Association about his experience and challenging and changing the toxic culture in policing. Tickets are on sale for 'Out Of The Blue' Police and Emergency Services Career Transition event on Sat 29th April 2023 at the Millennium Point, Birmingham and you can view and purchase your tickets HERE Join our one-day event for Police and Emergency Services leavers and be ready to make the change! This episode is sponsored by Motor Source Group. MSG offer genuine new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. I promise you; you will make savings. To find out more, go to https://www.bluelightleavers.com Don't forget, you can join the private Facebook Group via www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including live sessions with Andy and others who've been there and done it along with subject matter experts, talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and so much more, so if you're looking for a little more help and support and want to find out more, you can go to https://www.bluelightleavers.com/ You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/bluelightleavers/message --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

In this episode I'm talking with Jo Morris. Jo is a Blue Light Leavers community member and also a member of The Academy and she's a real success story. In the last episode we spoke to Jo, Jules and James with regards to our amazing collaboration with FDM Group and Jo is a former police officer who has been through their selection process and successfully passed the training, and she's recently started a fantastic new role consulting in a Project Manager role within the Finance sector. We talk through her policing experience and reasons for leaving, and she's incredibly open and honest about what happened. We talk about how she felt and the impact the misconduct process had on her, and we talked through the first call that we had and what happened next. She talks us through the whole FDM application process that she went through and how she felt when she got that call to say she'd been successful in the application process and assessment day, and then we go through the training in detail and how intense it was and the challenges that she felt were part of that process. We talk about her placement and I really do think she's got an incredibly exciting future ahead of her. This is a brilliant interview and I'm incredibly grateful to her for being so honest and open. If you're thinking of leaving policing or other emergency service and unsure of your options, your transferable skills, the careers you can move to, the impact on your mental health, losing your identity, how to write a CV or use LinkedIn, then this event is for you. Tickets are on sale for 'Out Of The Blue' Police and Emergency Services Career Transition event on Sat 29th April 2023 at the Millennium Point, Birmingham and you can find out more by clicking HERE Join our one-day event for Police and Emergency Services leavers and be ready to make the change! This episode is sponsored by Motor Source Group. They offer genuine, new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. To find out more, go to www.bluelightleavers.com You can join the private Facebook Group via www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for support and want to find out more, go to www.bluelightleavers.com Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: 'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com) You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/bluelightleavers/message --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message

I'm incredibly proud to be able announce another collaboration with a partner offering a complete career path from policing into roles which include roles within the tech industry, Project Management, project support, business and data analysts and much more, alongside consultancy careers including sectors such as finance, education, media and entertainment, life sciences, local and national government, and the beauty of this collaboration is that you actually get paid while you train! So, I'm very proud to announce that Blue Light Leavers have formed a collaboration with FDM Group, who are committed to supporting your transition. alongside fully funded training, industry-recognised qualifications, ongoing support and commercial experience, with placements into leading global companies. In this episode we talk about the application/selection process, the training that's involved and the courses provided, the salary and earning potential and loads more, including identifying your key skills that map across into numerous careers. This is an incredible opportunity and I'm so pleased to be able to offer this to Police and other Emergency Service Professionals. Tickets are on sale for 'Out Of The Blue' Police and Emergency Services Career Transition event on Sat 29th April 2023 at the Millennium Point, Birmingham and you can view and purchase your tickets HERE Join our one-day event for Police and Emergency Services leavers and be ready to make the change! This episode is sponsored by Motor Source Group. They offer genuine, new car discounts to serving and retired emergency services personnel, including Police, NHS, Fire and Rescue, and the Prison Service. They're completely independent, offering a full range of makes and models, and are rated excellent by their customers on Trustpilot. To find out more, go to www.bluelightleavers.com You can join the private Facebook Group via www.facebook.com/groups/bluelightleavers The Academy Membership from Blue Light Leavers gives you all the help you need to find your new role or career, including weekly live sessions with Andy and others who've been where you are, along with subject matter experts talking CVs, LinkedIn, interviews and much more, so if you're looking for support and want to find out more, go to www.bluelightleavers.com Not sure what roles you can do after the police, check this out: 'What jobs can I do after the Police?' Scorecard (scoreapp.com) You can listen to the podcast on shift, walking the dog, pottering about, and do it on your phone, desktop, laptop, or tablet, anywhere and whenever suits you, pause and play and they're all completely free! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bluelightleavers/message