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Two Stops Over with Vance Burberry and Nigel Dick

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TWO STOPS OVER is a podcast about filmmaking with two ruffians, director Nigel Dick and cinematographer Vance Burberry ASC, ACS. They have travelled the world together and independently, shooting hundreds and hundreds of music videos, movies and commercials and, in Vance's case, a lot of fish. Drawing from their film-making experiences over the last three decades these two mischief-makers will interrogate, question and cross-examine a different guest on each episode in their efforts to establish final closure on the time Vance tried to blow off Nigel's leg with a bag of fireworks during a location scout. Guests will include a wide array of reputable peers and friends working in the industry and at least one rock n’ roller who has had it with music videos. Our hosts are based in Los Angeles and, although one is technically a Brit and the other is technically an Aussie, it is hoped that some useful film-making tips and interesting behind-the-scenes gossip will be shared, not to mention passionate discussions about whether the craft service table should include Marmite or Vegemite. You have been warned - and so have their future guests! Two Stops Over is produced by Milktmade.

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United States

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TWO STOPS OVER is a podcast about filmmaking with two ruffians, director Nigel Dick and cinematographer Vance Burberry ASC, ACS. They have travelled the world together and independently, shooting hundreds and hundreds of music videos, movies and commercials and, in Vance's case, a lot of fish. Drawing from their film-making experiences over the last three decades these two mischief-makers will interrogate, question and cross-examine a different guest on each episode in their efforts to establish final closure on the time Vance tried to blow off Nigel's leg with a bag of fireworks during a location scout. Guests will include a wide array of reputable peers and friends working in the industry and at least one rock n’ roller who has had it with music videos. Our hosts are based in Los Angeles and, although one is technically a Brit and the other is technically an Aussie, it is hoped that some useful film-making tips and interesting behind-the-scenes gossip will be shared, not to mention passionate discussions about whether the craft service table should include Marmite or Vegemite. You have been warned - and so have their future guests! Two Stops Over is produced by Milktmade.

Language:

English


Episodes
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The Industry Ebb & Flow, Doing Wacky Crap in Telecine, and TikTok Brain (w/ Guest Brandon from @filmlights)

3/8/2024
Brandon from the popular Instagram account @filmlights joins Vance & Nigel to discuss all things social media including how the elusive algorithms work and change, the phenomenon of TikTok brain, and the gap between having the expertise to create quality work vs. the know-how to post it effectively on social media. They also delve into Brandon’s filmmaking origins and how he’s learned and honed his skills while shooting a film over the course of 12 years. Vance & Nigel talk about what they’ve been up to while it hasn’t been busy, Nigel talks about his approach to editing a project that he didn’t direct and Vance shares more about his underwater cinematography course. The guys share a couple of their favorite telecine stories, including the prank Nigel once played on the head of the post production facility. For the final segment, we switch it up and have our guest Brandon ask Vance & Nigel a question! Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:57:31

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Acting Person, Little Slivers of Light, and Win It in the Room (w/ guest Alan Blumenfeld)

2/1/2024
Actor Alan Blumenfeld has over 190 credits on IMDb, including a movie Nigel directed, 2gether. Alan shares insights on the differences of working in theater, TV, and film. He also tells us his process of translating unclear direction into something playable, offers advice to young aspiring actors, and reminisces about his first job post-pandemic working with Al Pacino on the series Hunters. Alan is also our first guest to demonstrate his craft live on an episode. Nigel and Vance discuss the movies they’ve been watching this awards season, including those nominated for the ASC Awards, and Vance tells us about the addition of a new award category he’s excited about. The guys discuss how music video and narrative cinematographers inspire each other, what makes an actor “A-List,” and both share their Harrier jet stories. Nigel reveals his acting chops, including his on-stage debut as a 12 year old at an all-boys school. You can visit Alan's website at alanblumenfeld.com Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:54:14

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Deep Dark Secret, Back to Work, and the Guy That Did That Britney Video (w/ Guest Jonathan Silverman)

12/1/2023
Founding partner of artist agency Intrinsic, Jonathan Silverman sheds some light on some of the misconceptions people have about agents and what they do. He delves deep into Vance & Nigel’s pressing questions exploring the right time to get an agent, staying on good terms with everyone, and his thoughts on big agencies vs. boutique agencies. And find out what he’s been doing to stay entertained during the historic SAG strike and how he expects the industry to pick up now that it has ended. Nigel reacts to Vance recalling shooting Propaganda Films promos for David Fincher. Britney Spears gives Nigel a shout-out in her new memoir “The Woman in Me” for directing her breakout music video, “…Baby One More Time,” the first of four Nigel directs for Britney, including “(You Drive Me) Crazy,” which Vance shot. Our hosts share similar feelings about the ugly side of reaching stardom at a young age, but first Nigel clears up a nasty rumor. Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:59:37

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Guys Wearing Funny Little Outfits, Red Rag to a Bull, and a Very Exclusive Club (w/ guests Amelia Hann & Jamie Batten)

11/10/2023
Netflix docuseries “Tour de France: Unchained” filmmakers, EP & Showrunner Ameila Hann and Director Jamie Batten, join Vance & Nigel to discuss the unique logistical challenges of capturing such a complex and demanding sport, and how they used the “inbuilt drama” of the Tour as a narrative foundation to tell real human stories. Nigel congratulates Vance on being admitted to the American Society of Cinematographers, and they tell us about a time sitting in the telecine room in the 80s, when Vance thought he had blown his chances of becoming a DP. Nigel explains how his passion for the Tour de France began while waiting to meet Britney Spears for the first time and how he went on to shoot at the Tour, as a one man band, two years in a row. Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:58:30

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Rubber Suit, Underwater Frame Hog, and Adapt to Survive (w/ Guest Pete Romano ASC)

9/15/2023
Pete Romano ASC, renowned underwater cinematographer, joins Vance and Nigel and shares his interesting career path, eventually working on a long list of iconic films including The Abyss, Titanic, Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation, The Call of the Wild, The Life Aquatic, and For Your Eyes Only. We get to go behind the scenes with Pete as he shares stories working with the likes of James Cameron and Tom Cruise. Pete shares how his company Hydroflex, makers of premier underwater camera housings and lighting, came to fruition after making his first housing while working at Industrial Light & Magic. He also recounts what may be the silliest, or stupidest, thing he’s ever done in his career. Vance and Nigel get inspired discussing their recent work travel experiences, from Spain to the Pacific Northwest and the Caribbean. They share some laughs at the insanity of shooting in one city to look like another, and the challenge of casting the right faces for a location when you’re on the other side of the world. Nigel reveals the documentary he’s been working on, centered around a saloon that eventually became the heart of the grunge movement. In the last segment, Vance shares his insights on what it takes to be an underwater cinematographer or camera operator. Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:01:00:03

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Stoned on Set, Unsung Heroes, and an Alice Cooper Situation (w/ Guest Frances Parker, ACE)

7/7/2023
Editor Frances Parker, ACE shares her experiences editing multiple episodes of Game of Thrones, her history (and a nod to) working with the VFX department, and her thoughts on how editors support the actor. Fran is currently working on House of the Dragon. Some of her other credits include Andor, The Crown, Life, and Band of Brothers, for which she won an Emmy Award for Best Editing in 2002. Vance & Nigel catch up on what they’ve been up to including their recent jobs and travels. Vance shares some highlights from NAB, tells his story about Diddy & Faith Evans’ “I’ll Be Missing You” tribute music video, and the night shooting a video for A Tribe Called Quest with Busta Rhymes. Nigel tells us about shooting for his stock footage library on his recent trips to Scotland and Norway and how he almost directed the “I’ll Be Missing You” video. For the last segment, Nigel provides tips for multi-cam live shoots from a directing perspective. Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:56:31

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Four Fingers Less, Fisheye Becomes a Thing in Hip Hop, and Dancing with VFX for Elvis (with Guest Mandy Walker, ASC, ACS - Cinematographer)

3/1/2023
Cinematographer Mandy Walker, ASC, ACS shares how she got the lensing right for the 50s, 60s, and 70s scenes in the motion picture, Elvis directed by Baz Luhrmann, tells us about the tricky dance she does between accurately depicting period lighting while still making it look cinematic, and she gives us insight on ways to improve the lack of diversity in the industry. Some of Mandy’s credits include Elvis, Mulan, Hidden Figures, and Australia. Vance & Nigel discuss which of this year’s Best Picture Oscar nominees was their favorite, why they don’t love the recent trend of films getting longer and longer, and Nigel tells us who he thinks should have been nominated for Best Eyebrows in a Motion Picture. Vance shares how he helped hip hop music videos get the iconic fisheye look in the 90s with director Hype Williams. You can find Mandy on Instagram @mandywalkerdp Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:49:32

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Director Person, Special Shooty Swimming Pools, and Why Everybody in the World Should Take an Acting Class (with Guest Judith Weston, Acting Coach, Teacher, and Author)

2/13/2023
Acting coach, teacher, and author Judith Weston tells us why she believes everybody in the world should take an acting class, how to talk to actors about the emotional event of the scene instead of result-oriented direction, what mysterious lines are, and why she likes working with directors more than lawyers. Some of Judith’s directing students include Alejandro Iñárritu, Ava DuVernay, Taika Waititi, Steve McQueen, and David Chase. You can find Judith on Instagram @judywestonhoskins and on her website at judithweston.com. Our hosts have been busy! They talk about Nigel’s recent jobs that have had him hopping back and forth between coasts and Vance shares some info about his ongoing underwater cinematography course. They also discuss why wetsuits are so boring and Nigel tells us about the time he was shooting his second movie and an actor stormed off set. Also in this episode, we have our first live listener Q&A segment! If you have a question for Vance & Nigel, send us a DM on Instagram and we may invite you to ask them live in a future episode. Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:49:28

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Paradise City, Trunk Full of Old Speakers, and No Take Two (w/ Guest Danny Clinch, Music Photographer & Director)

1/24/2023
Renowned music photographer & director Danny Clinch shares how his visit to a garage sale as a child led to working with a wide range of artists including the likes of Tupac, Willie Nelson, Nas, Bruce Springsteen, Phish, Ben Harper, and Pearl Jam. Danny also discusses how he ended up playing harmonica on stage with the Foo Fighters and his unforgettable trip to the county fair with Tom Waits. Vance tells us about when he fell in love with light working at a theater in Sydney, and went from flipping switches on a power strip for his friend’s band to touring with Cold Chisel, INXS, and The Go-Go’s. Our hosts reminisce about why Vance got to fly on the Concorde for the Guns N Roses “Paradise City” shoot and Nigel did not. As a bonus, Vance explains what he views as one of the most important aspects of shooting a concert film. You can find Danny on Instagram @dannybones64 and Twitter @danny_clinch. His website is: dannyclinch.com Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:53:01

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Sticky Blood & Eyeliner, 750 Dirty Extras, and Why It’s Good to be Terrified (w/ Guest Heba Thorisdottir, makeup department head on films Babylon, Don’t Worry Darling, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Kill Bill) - How Band Aid & Quentin Tarantino launched c

1/11/2023
Makeup department head Heba Thorisdottir discusses her first big break with Quentin Tarantino on Kill Bill, recalls how she got her start on Nigel’s first movie, and her debut acting role in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Vance and Heba talk about the importance of the makeup artist and cinematographer collaboration and how she worked with 750 extras with Damien Chazelle on the recently released film, Babylon. Nigel shares with us how directing and producing the music video for the UK’s fastest selling single with no time or money launched his directing career. Vance and Nigel compare their upcoming jobs on the opposite ends of the production budget spectrum and as a bonus, Nigel presents one of the “12 Things They Don’t Teach You in Film School” from his seminar at the Camerimage Festival 2022. You can find Heba on Instagram @hebathormakeup Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:52:42

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Special Episode at Camerimage: Golden Frogs, the Slow Helicopter Movie, and a Festival’s Past, Present, and Future (w/ Guest Joanna Żydowicz - Barciś)

12/20/2022
In this special episode we join Vance & Nigel in Torun, Poland for the 30th annual Camerimage Festival, the only festival celebrating the art of cinematography. They discuss who they met up with, parties they attended, seminars they presented, and how they decided on a winner as jury members for the music video competition. Vance is also honored with a Golden Frog Award for Achievements in the Field of Music Videos and we get to hear the speech that Nigel never gave. Camerimage’s own Joanna Żydowicz - Barciś, Deputy of the Festival Director, joins our hosts at the Horzyca Theatre for a live conversation. Joanna discusses how the festival began, why cinematographers love it so much and the future of the festival. They share an emotional moment as they reflect on the impact the war in Ukraine has had in the filmmaking community. You can find Joanna Żydowicz-Barciś on Instagram @joannazydowiczbarcis You can find Camerimage on Instagram @camerimage.festival and Twitter @CamerimageFest Their website is: https://camerimage.pl/en/ Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:55:02

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Propaganda Days, Prosthetic Horses, and the Pied Violinist of Torun (w/ Guest Tim Clawson)

12/6/2022
In this episode Vance & Nigel share some of their favorite Cockney rhyming slang, working with pop band The Jacksons and why cinematography isn’t just about making pretty pictures. They also tease up our next episode with the legend of how the city of Torun, Poland finally conquered their plague of frogs. Tim Clawson joins for an in depth conversation about how he went from working with Nigel (and sometimes Vance) as Head of Production at Propaganda Films in the ‘90’s to his current role as Head of Worldwide Production and Post Production at Amazon Studios. Tim also shares with us the challenges in hostile conditions shooting The Revenant, moving production of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power from New Zealand to the UK, and why he describes himself as a Type C personality. Some other productions he’s been involved with include Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, Birdman, Django Unchained, and Gone Girl. Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:43:40

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Frolic Room, Head Transplant, and Mr. Starman (w/ Guest Paul Cameron ASC)

11/22/2022
TUNE IN TO OUR NEXT EPISODE DECEMBER 6TH! In this debut episode, Vance and Nigel discuss their most memorable times shooting in helicopters, Vance’s days at the Frolic Room, and the mind-blowing David Bowie documentary “Moonage Daydream” (available to stream now!) Our guest is the iconic cinematographer Paul Cameron ASC who shares his recent experience as director on the new upcoming show “Lioness,” stories about shooting one of Vance & Nigel’s favorite films, and why he prefers shooting at night. Paul has been the DP for so many of our favorites including the HBO Series Westworld, Man on Fire, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales, 21 Bridges and Reminiscence. You can find Paul on Instagram @paulcameron_dp Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:49:24

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Teaser - Two Stops Over

11/18/2022
Filmmaking ruffians Nigel Dick and Vance Burberry ACS talk their careers, traveling, and making lasting connections with peers. Follow now! Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:00:25

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Trailer - Two Stops Over

11/15/2022
Filmmaking ruffians Nigel Dick and Vance Burberry ACS talk their careers, traveling, and making lasting connections with peers. Follow now! Follow @twostopsoverpodcast on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook Host: Vance Burberry ACS, Nigel Dick Producers: Vance Burberry, Nigel Dick, Lindha Narvaez Executive Producer: Lindha Narvaez Associate Producer: Tyler Taylor Intern: Jorja Moes

Duration:00:01:08