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Four apostate millennials sit down and take a long hard look at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints:Follow these friends raised in varying degrees of Mormonism as they attempt to make sense of what the Mormon Church actually teaches, and how that measures up to actual history and fact.Oh, also we’re super drunk!
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Four apostate millennials sit down and take a long hard look at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints:Follow these friends raised in varying degrees of Mormonism as they attempt to make sense of what the Mormon Church actually teaches, and how that measures up to actual history and fact.Oh, also we’re super drunk!
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English
Episodes
Episode 139 - The Apologyptologists
2/22/2026
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Abish and Abigail roll in already half-dead from a same-day work raid on Rexburg (Potato BYU), plus the usual modern plagues: a Tesla pothole incident that turns into “surprise, you’re buying four tires,” a Unisom gamble, and a toddler on a sacred quest for the One Blanket That Was In The Car The Whole Time. Drink-wise, Abish delivers the Highly Flavored. It’s Trader Joe’s seasonal sparkling strawberry soda + TJ’s fresh limeade, spiked with a casual ounce-ish of Malibu and an ounce-ish of vanilla vodka, poured over ice and topped for a cute layered look that does not resemble hot dog water (growth). Pop culture detours include rage-fantasies about accountability, the deeply cursed optics of shirtless powerful men, and the joyful chaos of watching survival content where the true villain is always some small, relentless weasel with an agenda.
Scriptures: [00:32:44]
aaaAAAaaa shows up with an exmo power tool: a normalized diff. They explain how they pulled Matthew 24 (KJV) and Joseph Smith—Matthew into a repo, lined the passages up, and used a visual diff (plus AI help) to get painfully granular about what’s “Matthew” and what’s “Joe doing jazz hands over Matthew’s chord chart.” The segment frames the KJV as a single, interleaved Olivet Discourse, while Joseph Smith—Matthew is portrayed as a reshuffle-and-expand job that tries to separate the “Jerusalem gets wrecked” timeline from the “Second Coming” timeline, mainly by adding clarifiers, moving blocks around, and sprinkling covenant-y emphasis like it’s garlic powder.
Church Teachings: [00:57:39]
Moroni tackles the “why is this random chunk even here?” question: why would Joseph Smith toss an apocalyptic rewrite of Matthew 24 into the Pearl of Great Price like an unrelated DLC? The segment argues it feels oddly placed narratively, but starts making more sense when you treat early Mormonism as aggressively end-times-coded: not “one day Jesus will return,” but “we are literally living in the countdown timer era.” From that angle, Matthew 24 wasn’t obscure to early Saints, it was mission-critical content.
History: [01:09:13]
Abigail returns triumphantly to Egypt Corner, essentially admitting this is a continuation of last week’s “wait, WHAT” Wikipedia spiral. She digs deeper into the mummy-and-papyri economy around Michael Chandler’s mummy-selling tour (a sentence that should not exist, and yet), including how many mummies were in circulation and how bizarrely bad people were at tracking where the bodies and papyri ended up. The tone stays fixed on the absurdity that “anyone can buy a mummy” was just… a normal thing for a while, and on how that context feeds directly into Joseph’s confident scripture-production hustle.
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Duration:01:58:17
Episode 138 - Not To Beat a Dead Hôr
2/15/2026
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The hosts kick off this episode with their signature chaotic energy, mixing up a Bailey's-heavy cocktail called "Facsimile No Printer" (and a cereal-infused chocolate milk mocktail for their pregnant co-host) before diving into an extensive pop culture roundup. From gushing over Bad Bunny's Super Bowl halftime show and Lady Gaga's timeless talent, to mourning the losses of Catherine O'Hara and James Van Der Beek, the conversation winds through Bridgerton's new season, the horrors of the Epstein files, the absurdity of competitive daycare Valentine's cards, and the glory of "the fuck box" — an autocorrect mishap for the ages. One host also celebrates five weeks on Prozac and feeling hope again, while another attempts a bold cannabis hiatus to wrangle their ADHD.
Scriptures: [00:39:32]
The episode's main course is a deep dive into the three facsimiles found in the Book of Abraham. The hosts break down what Joseph Smith claimed each facsimile depicted — Abraham's sacrifice, a cosmic map of Kolob and the priesthood, and Abraham teaching astronomy on Pharaoh's throne — versus what Egyptologists have conclusively identified them as: standard Egyptian funerary texts depicting Osiris, Anubis, Isis, and scenes from the Book of Breathing. They highlight the comedic tragedy of Smith filling in missing pieces of damaged papyrus with his own crude drawings, and the fact that the Rosetta Stone was already being decoded around the same time Smith was making his "translations."
Church Teachings: [01:00:24]
The church's modern response gets a thorough skewering, from the Gospel Topics essay that essentially redefines "translation" to mean divine inspiration rather than actual linguistic work, to Institute manuals that teach the facsimiles as proof of priesthood authority while carefully avoiding any mention of their Egyptian origins. The hosts also explore the "catalyst theory" — the church's fallback position that the papyri merely *inspired* Joseph Smith — and note how foundational Book of Abraham concepts like Kolob and temple ceremonies are to Mormon theology despite being built on thoroughly debunked source material.
History: [01:17:00]
The episode wraps with a fascinating historical tour of Ptolemaic Egypt, exploring how Greek and Egyptian cultures blended during the era when the Book of Breathing for Hor — the actual document Smith "translated" — was produced. Highlights include the revelation that Books of Breathing were essentially mass-produced funerary Mad Libs with blank spaces for names, the state-engineered creation of the hybrid god Serapis, and the fact that Cleopatra VII was ethnically Greek. The hosts announce a special activity for listeners: a template to draw their own version of the missing pieces of the facsimiles, Joey Smith style.
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Duration:02:04:02
Episode 137 - The Male Loneliness Epidemic in Eden
2/8/2026
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Moroni kicked things off with a warm, spicy beverage that matched the theological temperature of the episode: the Naked and Not Ashamed. This hot cocktail combined spiced rum, Porter’s fire whiskey (of course), and dusty apple cider, garnished with cinnamon and a side of celestial sass. It was named for the Adam-and-Eve-just-vibing moment at the end of Abraham 5—before things went full snake oil. The intro spiraled into classic chaos: pickled pico de gallo revelations, impromptu soup grief counseling, a tribute to Catherine O’Hara, and a surprisingly intense breakdown of the man cold-industrial complex.
Scriptures: [00:33:01]
Claudia dove into Abraham 5 with enough sarcasm to reanimate Joseph’s skull. The segment opened with a well-earned sigh over the Gods’ celestial group project, where “counseled among themselves” is repeated like someone got stuck in a Joseph Smith Mad Lib. Claudia highlighted the total narrative collapse of time: are we planning creation, doing it, recapping it, or just gossiping about it in the break room? Hard to say. The naming of animals got its due as Adam’s big weed-fueled improv bit—naming a cow “Trevor” and a tree “Steve Kevin” while naked and doing the windmill. She also took aim at the absurdity of Adam naming every creature (with gummy-enhanced efficiency, obviously), and the petty divine HR meeting that decided man was too sad alone to function. The rib moment was framed as celestial Build-a-Bear surgery—with a side of CPR through the nostrils. A+ biblical horror comedy.
Church Teachings: [00:58:05]
aaaAAAaaa tackled the apologetics of Adam’s rib like a scalpel to celestial bone structure. The segment traced how modern LDS leaders (Kimball, Holland, Nelson, etc.) have backtracked the rib narrative into pure symbolism—emphasizing equality, “side-by-side partnership,” and definitely-not-anatomically-incorrect metaphors. She also dug into the gross little detour some 19th-century LDS thinkers took, suggesting Eve was a literal clone made from Adam’s rib marrow (DNA science, but make it horny and spiritually sanctioned masturbation). Then came the Jewish takes, where it turns out “rib” probably meant “side” all along and one Talmudic reading says God just split Adam in half like a cosmic starfish. aaaAAAaaa mourned the missed opportunity of Joseph Smith not adapting the apocrypha (where Lilith and other batshit options live), and eviscerated the cowardice of churches who now retroactively label metaphors only once they’re impossible to defend. Final takeaway: it’s always a metaphor—until it’s not, and then it was a metaphor all along.
History: [01:17:48]
Abigail delivered a full scorched-earth roast of Orson Scott Card and his aggressively Mormon sci-fi empire. She started with a childhood memory of being way too far into The Memory of Earth before realizing “Nafai” was just Nephi in space drag. Then she walked through the entire Homecoming Saga (aka the Book of Mormon with names run through a Dune generator) including Wetchik (Lehi), Ellemak and Mebaqe (Layman and Lemuel), Zdoreb (Zoram), and the brass-ball Liahona analog. The plot is beat-for-beat BOM, but in space: fleeing Jerusalem/Basilica, building a spaceship/boat, sibling drama, desert wandering, and obedience-as-endgame. She even covered Card’s Tales of Alvin Maker ser
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Duration:01:57:59
Episode 136 - James-McAvoy-God Theory
2/1/2026
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Abish kicks things off with a cocktail that has absolutely nothing to do with the episode and everything to do with vibes: the "Pickligamy". Equal parts vodka, pickle juice, and lemonade, garnished with a pickle spear, it exists purely because the word sounded funny and honestly? That’s enough. The drink inspires immediate polarization—pickle lovers rejoice, pickle skeptics recoil—and the segment spirals delightfully into pregnancy cravings, candy unboxings, Minneapolis chaos, and the emotional whiplash of trying to stay informed while the world is actively on fire. It’s chaotic, comforting, and extremely on brand.
Scriptures: [00:29:53]
aaaAAAaaa takes on Abraham 4, aka Genesis 1 but Joseph Smith is freestyling from memory. The segment walks through Abraham 4 beat by beat, highlighting how closely it mirrors Genesis structurally while managing to be longer, clumsier, and way more repetitive. The plural “Gods” are introduced immediately and then aggressively re-introduced over and over again, without ever being explained or allowed to actually do anything interesting.
Church Teachings: [00:50:01]
Moroni dives into the many Mormon versions of the creation story, moving beyond scripture into temple theology. He lays out the five major creation accounts that matter in LDS thought: Genesis, Moses, Abraham, and multiple versions of the temple endowment—including the pre-2023 version and the revised post-2023 changes. The segment meticulously tracks how the endowment’s creation narrative originally didn’t line up with any of the scriptural versions, then was quietly edited to match them more closely.
History: [01:12:43]
Abigail closes the episode with “Mormons in Space,” an absolutely unhinged deep dive into Battlestar Galactica (1978) and its creator, Glen A. Larson. What starts as a fun pop-culture tangent turns into a full-blown Mormon theology exposé as Abigail traces Larson’s LDS background, his career trajectory from 1950s boy band heartthrob to TV megacreator, and how Battlestar Galactica becomes Mormon cosmology with lasers.
From the Quorum of the Twelve in space, to Kolob-adjacent planets, Egyptian aesthetics, literal devil figures named Lucifer and Iblis, resurrection arcs, sealing language, and angelic beings made of light, the show is revealed to be less “Star Wars knockoff” and more “temple endowment with spaceships.” Abigail walks through key episodes—especially War of the Gods—to show just how explicitly Mormon the narrative becomes, culminating in a celestial destiny for humanity and a literal search for Earth. The segment lands on a comparison between the incoherent, patriarchal original series and the far superior 2004 reboot, proving once again that Mormon ideas are everywhere… even when they really shouldn’t be.
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Duration:02:19:55
Episode 135 - Cash Me Ousside, God
1/25/2026
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aaaAAAaaa opens the episode in classic Great & Spacious chaos, immediately acknowledging that Joseph Smith’s Abrahamic space fanfic has once again forced a cocktail concept into existence. This week’s drink, "Gnolaum Kokaubeam", is a coffee cocktail named after the aggressively fake cosmic vocabulary Joseph introduces in Abraham 3—specifically the “eternal” and “star/light” language that somehow sounds like it belongs on a Starbucks menu.
The segment veers delightfully into tangents about caffeine, preparation-as-a-lifestyle, accidental recordings, earthquakes, and the inevitability of filling silence with words. The vibe is caffeinated, slightly unhinged, and perfectly aligned with a chapter where God insists—repeatedly and ungrammatically—that He is more intelligent than everyone else.
Scriptures: [00:21:17]
Moroni walks through Abraham 3, a chapter that functions less like scripture and more like a seventh-grade essay written by a farm school dropout trying very hard to sound cosmically important. Abraham is shown visions of stars, planets, and governing bodies, culminating in the introduction of Kolob—the star nearest to God’s throne—and a hierarchy where everything exists on a scale of “lesser” and “greater,” repeated until meaning collapses under its own weight.
The discussion highlights how the chapter blends speculative astronomy, time dilation (“one day unto the Lord”), and premortal hierarchy, all while God declares Himself “more intelligent than they all” in some of the most awkward divine dialogue in scripture. Moroni emphasizes how this chapter quietly introduces foreordination, noble and great ones, and the scaffolding for Mormon premortal elitism, all wrapped in language that feels far more 19th century than ancient.
Church Teachings: 00:39:14
Claudia breaks down what the LDS Church teaches based on Abraham 3, focusing on foreordination, premortal existence, and the War in Heaven. The segment explores how members are taught that certain spirits were chosen before birth for leadership roles—prophets, rulers, and “choice” individuals—while still maintaining the convenient loophole that foreordination isn’t a guarantee, just a cosmic head start.
The conversation unpacks how these teachings historically justified hierarchy, patriarchy, and racism, including older doctrines that framed physical, racial, or national “limitations” as evidence of lesser premortal valiance. Claudia connects these ideas to Mormon culture’s obsession with being the “chosen generation,” noting how every generation somehow inherits that same title, and how the logic of Abraham 3 continues to underpin modern LDS authority structures despite decades of quiet doctrinal cleanup.
History: 00:59:24
Abigail closes the episode with a deep dive into cosmology itself—what it is, why every human society develops one, and how cosmologies function less as explanations of the universe and more as justifications for who gets to be in charge. Drawing on comparative mythology and religious studies, she outlines common cosmological frameworks across cultures and shows how Mormon cosmology fits neatly into patterns of hierarchy, divine craftsmanship, and procreative authority rather than ancient Hebrew thought.
She situates Abraham 3 squarely in its 19th-century con
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Duration:01:58:49
Episode 134 - An Important Part of This Balanced Bullshit
1/18/2026
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Moroni opens the episode with a mercifully refreshing cocktail, the Cranberry Vodka Spritz-Ur, a deliciously refreshing drink named for the land of Ur and the general need for something light before wading into Abrahamic theology. Built around vodka, cranberry juice, citrus, and a fizzy topper, the drink does what it needs to do: keeps spirits up while the conversation immediately detours into the emotional exhaustion of existing in 2026. The intro swings between gallows humor, pop-culture side quests, and the general sense that everything is on fire, but at least the drink slaps. Consensus is reached quickly: this is one of the better cocktails in recent memory, which is good, because the rest of the episode is… a lot.
Scriptures: [00:32:29]
Abish walks everyone through Abraham 2, covering Abraham’s divine relocation order, the expansion of the covenant, and the promise that his name, seed, and priesthood authority will somehow bless literally everyone. The chapter’s emphasis on separation from corrupt societies, obedience without immediate payoff, and covenantal chosenness sets the stage for everything that follows. Abraham is framed as special, chosen, and obedient long before there is any visible success, establishing a template where faithfulness matters more than outcomes. The segment highlights how genealogical language and priesthood authority are already doing a lot of heavy lifting here, even before Joseph Smith gets fully weird with it later.
Church Teachings: [00:49:53]
aaaAAAaaa attempts to explain the Abrahamic Covenant using an official BYU Religious Studies Center article, quickly discovering that it is aggressively long, deeply repetitive, and determined to explain the same point twelve times in slightly different arrangements of words. After valiantly reading for longer than anyone deserved, he pivots to a summarized version to preserve the will to live of the other hosts. The segment reframes Abraham 2 as institutional theology rather than narrative scripture, showing how the covenant is used to justify chosen-ness, obedience without reward, and suffering as a feature rather than a bug. The takeaway is clear: the covenant isn’t just a promise, it’s an operating system—one that explains why being chosen mostly means being used.
History: [01:07:16]
Abigail closes things out by focusing on Abraham’s “seed,” and by seed she very much means seed, unpacking just how biologically, genealogically, and obsessively reproductive this section of scripture really is. The segment leans into how lineage becomes theology, how fertility becomes destiny, and how the covenant quietly turns into a divine breeding program with eternal consequences. Along the way, she connects this fixation to broader ancient and modern anxieties about inheritance, legitimacy, and power, all while keeping the tone appropriately unhinged. If nothing else, listeners leave with a renewed appreciation for just how horny theology can get when it runs out of better metaphors.
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Duration:01:51:54
Episode 133 - Urland Signature Mummy 4-Pack
1/11/2026
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Abish opens the episode with the “Osh Kosh Korash”, a chaotic but shockingly drinkable cocktail named after one of Abraham 1’s many extremely real, absolutely-not-made-up gods. Built from chocolate Crown Royal, amaretto, vanilla vodka, coffee liqueur, grenadine, cream, and topped with cherry Dr Pepper, the drink perfectly sets the tone for a chapter that feels like Joseph Smith just kept adding ingredients until something vaguely coherent happened. The intro spirals through pop culture tangents, general apocalypse vibes, and the shared realization that the Book of Abraham somehow manages to be both deeply racist and deeply boring at the same time.
Scriptures: [00:24:45]
aaaAAAaaa turns Abraham 1 into a full narrator-film trope, with Abraham doing a self-satisfied Emperor’s New Groove–style voiceover while actively being tied to an altar. The segment walks beat-by-beat through Abraham’s humblebrag résumé—his desire for priesthood, knowledge, and greatness—before diving into the sudden appearance of a rotating cast of nonsense gods, Egyptian priests inexplicably operating in Chaldea, and the extremely convenient survival of Abraham while three unnamed virgins die offscreen. The retelling highlights how repetitive, padded, and self-justifying the chapter is, exposing Abraham as a protagonist who treats attempted human sacrifice as a brief inconvenience on his way to cosmic importance.
Church Teachings: [00:46:56]
Moroni covers what the church teaches about Abraham 1, focusing on how lesson manuals frame Abraham as a model of faith, courage, and righteous ambition in a corrupt world. The segment breaks down the church’s emphasis on Abraham’s desire for priesthood, Pharaoh as a supposedly righteous leader without authority, and the way Abraham’s near-sacrifice is reframed as spiritual proof rather than a narrative disaster. The discussion highlights how the church smooths over the text’s contradictions while quietly leaning on Abraham to justify priesthood lineage, authority claims, and obedience as the ultimate virtue.
History: [01:02:04]
Abigail closes the episode with a deep dive into 1960s Book of Abraham apologetics, when the papyri resurfaced and forced the church into theological gymnastics. She walks through the rediscovery of the papyri, their identification as standard Egyptian funerary texts, and the resulting scramble to redefine “translation” into something closer to inspiration-by-association. The segment connects these apologetic shifts to broader LDS doctrine, showing how much modern Mormon theology depends on a text that simply does not say what Joseph Smith claimed—and how the church responded when the evidence showed up and refused to cooperate.
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Duration:02:05:12
Episode 132 - Straight Up Cain-Babies
1/4/2026
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aaaAAAaaa kicks off the first episode of the year with the cocktail "Mintthuselah", a wintery, chocolate-mint apocalypse in a glass named for Methuselah and the general pre-Flood vibe of things being long, old, and overdue for judgment. Using Chocolate Crown Royal, mint chocolate Baileys, a carefully restrained splash of peppermint schnapps, and cream, the drink manages to be both indulgent and ominous—much like Moses 8 itself. The intro meanders through sandwich betrayal, bad brains, naming talents, and a surprising amount of pop culture detours, before finally landing on the idea that if the world is ending via flood, it should at least taste good while it happens.
Sciptures: [00:27:37]
Moroni takes on Moses 8 and quickly realizes there isn’t much there there. The chapter is mostly lineage, absurd lifespans, and a heavy-handed declaration that everyone is wicked, with very little actual Noah content and almost no flood logistics compared to Genesis. Instead of ark specs or animal gathering, the text leans hard into sermonizing, random giant mentions, and premature name-dropping of Jesus Christ thousands of years before that would make any sense. The segment highlights how abruptly the book ends, how little narrative payoff exists, and how Joseph Smith’s retelling feels more like a theological rant than a story—culminating in God threatening to wipe everyone out and then immediately moving on like nothing happened.
Church Teachings: [00:48:10]
Abish unpacks how Moses 8 gets weaponized in LDS doctrine, focusing especially on the “sons of God” versus “daughters of men” framework and how it’s been used to justify fear around mixed-faith and interracial marriages. Tracing teachings from Brigham Young through Spencer W. Kimball, Harold B. Lee, Mark E. Petersen, and Ezra Taft Benson, the segment shows how marriage outside the covenant has long been framed as spiritually dangerous, socially corrosive, and even deserving of divine punishment. The discussion pulls no punches, highlighting explicit racist quotes, the church’s refusal to fully disavow them, and the ongoing cultural pressure that treats non-member spouses as liabilities rather than partners—all while pointing out how hollow the modern “love everyone” messaging sounds when eternal exclusion is still baked into the doctrine.
History: [01:16:37]
Abigail zooms out from Mormon scripture to place Moses 8 in its broader mythological context, walking through flood stories across cultures and civilizations. From Mesopotamian epics to global flood myths, the segment explores why floods show up so frequently in ancient storytelling and how they’re typically about chaos, renewal, and survival—not doctrinal purity. By contrast, Moses 8 stands out for how little it cares about the flood itself and how focused it is on punishment, lineage, and obedience. The result is a clear historical gut check: Joseph Smith didn’t expand the Noah story so much as flatten it into a morality lecture, stripping away the mythic weight and replacing it with a warning about not listening to the prophet.
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Duration:02:27:07
Episode 131 - So You Had A Religious Sex Dream
12/21/2025
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Moroni opens the episode with The Flood Line, a blackberry Crown Royal and ginger ale cocktail that hits hard, pops loud, and sets the tone for a night that’s equal parts chaos and critique. The drink name riffs on Moses 7’s apocalyptic vibes, while the intro spirals delightfully through Costco Jesus art, pop-culture detours, and the usual GASP blend of reverence and profanity. The overall energy is loose, a little unhinged, and perfectly primed for talking about prophets who allegedly rearranged geology.
Scriptures: [00:32:04]
Abish tackles Moses 7, comparing the sparse biblical Enoch to the fully weaponized Mormon version who preaches, builds Zion, reroutes rivers, and makes mountains flee like startled pets. She walks through the LDS expansion of Enoch’s story—Zion as a literal utopia, God openly weeping, and a city so righteous it gets yoinked into heaven—then contrasts it with both the Bible’s two-sentence shrug and the apocryphal Enoch who acts more like a cosmic archivist than a social reformer. The segment frames Joseph Smith’s Enoch as less ancient prophet and more ideological prototype for Mormon communal theology.
Church Teachings: [01:02:17]
aaaAAAaaa digs into literalism as a defining and increasingly fragile pillar of Mormon theology, using Moses 7’s “mountains fleeing” as the launch point. Pulling from scripture, JST Genesis, Ensign articles, FAIR apologetics, and conference talks, the segment shows how early and modern leaders framed priesthood power as genuinely world-altering—breaking mountains, dividing seas—while later scholarship quietly reframes that power as symbolic or institutional once evidence fails to cooperate. The result is a sharp exploration of how literal claims are taught with confidence, then softened, spiritualized, or quietly retired when reality refuses to play along.
History: [01:38:39]
Abigail returns for what is jokingly labeled “part four of three” in her Satanic Panic series, tracing how fear-based moral hysteria deepened and spread the more she researched it. This installment situates Mormon culture as uniquely primed for panic—steeped in literal belief, supernatural causality, and rigid authority structures—making members especially vulnerable to conspiracy thinking. The segment underscores how the same literalism that props up prophetic mountain-moving also fuels real-world harm when paranoia is treated as revelation.
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Duration:02:50:16
Episode 130 - Fetus of the Month
12/14/2025
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Abish opens the episode with the “Skibidi-lestial”, a shockingly good tangerine-vanilla-Malibu-UV-blue-floral cocktail that began life as a joke and somehow achieved exaltation. The intro spirals delightfully through drink lore, abandoned gardens, generational slang anxiety, Barnabas’s failed cocktail redemption arc, and pop-culture tangents ranging from Avatar nipples to Hallmark movie crimes, all while firmly establishing the night’s tone as cozy, chaotic, and spiritually unserious.
Scriptures: [00:32:43]
aaaAAAaaa tackles Moses 6 through aggressive “Pearl Math,” walking through the overlapping lifespans of Adam’s descendants and landing on the central absurdity: a tiny, fully interrelated monoculture where Adam and multiple patriarchs are still alive, God is still showing up, and yet missionary work is somehow necessary. The segment roasts the anachronistic theology (atonement before Jesus exists, baptism before doctrine), the psychedelic clay-on-the-eyes seer upgrade, and Adam being “quickened in the inner man,” ultimately arguing that the chapter only makes sense as Joseph Smith projecting 19th-century Mormonism backward into Bible fanfic.
Church Teachings: [01:00:43]
Special guest Laman shares his mission experiences and the process of disentangling Mormon doctrine from identity after leaving the church, offering a grounded look at how missionary culture, obedience, and certainty shape members long after belief cracks. The discussion explores why ex-Mormons keep talking about Mormonism, how doubt is culturally framed as failure, and how walking away often requires rebuilding not just theology, but an entire sense of self.
History: [02:06:29]
Abigail continues her multi-part series on the Satanic Panic, showing how Mormon cultural patterns — authority worship, fear of hidden evil, and obsession with moral purity — made the church uniquely susceptible to the hysteria. This installment connects early LDS ideas about secret combinations and Satanic influence to the broader American panic, setting the stage for how these narratives escalated and why they landed so effectively in Mormon communities.
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Duration:03:07:50
Episode 129 - Honey, I Fucked the Son
12/7/2025
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aaaAAAaaa walked into this episode like a man determined to prove that rock bottom is not a location but a state of cocktail consciousness. Thus was born "The Rejected Offering" a hotdog martini that immediately triggered a collective, visceral “oh no” from everyone present. Built from ketchup, spicy brown mustard, muddled relish brine, lemon juice, vodka, and a hefeweizen float “for bread,” this drink was essentially a liquid Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest. Garnished with teeny weenies, it was more an act of performance art than a beverage. And of course, when the others revolted after their first sips, aaaAAAaaa — like Cain, but with a higher tolerance — drank all three.
Scriptures: [00:33:37]
Moroni took us through Moses 5, the moment the family of Adam graduates from “naked gardening” to “institutionalized murder and cult formation.” Using the Pearl of Great Price remix of Genesis — the version God allegedly showed Moses through a burning 19th-century VR headset — Moroni highlighted just how much of this chapter gets repurposed verbatim in the LDS temple endowment. The angel explaining sacrifice? The law-of-sacrifice phrasing? Eve’s “Wherefore, we rejoice…” line? Yep — straight from Moses 5.
We get the classic beats: Adam tills, Eve “also labors with him” (the scriptural equivalent of saying “she helped”), everyone starts having kids with everyone else, and suddenly Cain and Abel exist to reenact the world's first true-crime documentary. Moroni walked through Cain’s floor-fruit offering versus Abel’s blood sacrifice, God’s weird favoritism, and Cain’s bisexual-coded “Who is the Lord that I should know him?” before the inevitable rock-to-head fratricide. By the end, God curses Cain, darkness spreads, and the entire human family structure starts looking like a closed-circle Utah genealogy chart.
Church Teachings: [00:55:31]
Abish pulled apart how LDS doctrine diverges sharply from Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, and Islamic readings of Cain and Abel. Instead of the usual ambiguity about why Cain’s offering failed, Mormonism declares — with the certainty of a bishop who’s never read any other scripture — that Cain lacked faith, lacked sincerity, lacked righteousness, and possibly lacked good produce. Other traditions debate symbolism; Mormonism insists it was an obedience test with Jesus foreshadowing baked in.
She outlined the uniquely Mormon additions: Satan personally tutors Cain in Evil 101, the introduction of Master Mahan as the prototype of all future “secret combinations,” and the idea that organized global evil can be traced directly to Cain’s LinkedIn job title. Abish also highlighted how LDS materials have canonized Cain’s curse, his “mark,” and his role as the template for apostasy itself. And then, because this is GASP, she delivered the pièce de résistance: Master Mahan as a Joe Smith original, referenced twice in scripture and then never again, like a catchphrase from a failed 1830s sitcom.
History: [01:18:20]
Abigail kicked off a multi-week descent into the Satanic Panic, starting with the cultural soup of the 60s–80s: horror movies, the rise of the Religious Right, pop psychology’s obsession with “unlocking your inner trauma,” and the widespread misuse of hypnosis by therapists who should absolutely not have been allowed to possess clipboards.
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Duration:02:19:25
HOAMT Episode 8 - Pie on a Mountain Top
11/30/2025
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What started as a pie night turned into aaaAAAaaa dragging Abigail and Moroni into a full musical fever-dream about 90s Mormon Thanksgiving. We made a whole-ass AI musical — 15 original songs — and reacted to it live together like a group memory séance. Expect missionaries breaking rules in the basement, an operatic Jell-O salad declaration, the Second Coming of dessert, and the world’s longest prayer set to music. We laugh, wince, bond, and eventually crash back into the present… where we realize everyone went home and we’re the adults stuck cleaning. This may be the most unhinged, nostalgic, and heartfelt episode we’ve ever done.
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Duration:01:46:58
Episode 128 - Save Room For Nuance
11/23/2025
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Intro
Moroni kicked things off this week with a drink that was equal parts chaotic and on-brand. He walked us through his creation, the “Fig Leaf Martini”, a cocktail whose theological accuracy is at least as questionable as its citrus content. The intro drifted through pop-culture tangents, general unruliness, and all the normal pre-scripture mayhem that happens when he’s at the wheel — literally this time, since he recorded on the road.
Scriptures: [00:34:56]
Abish took us into Moses 4, and she did not hold back. She went line by line through the “Fall of Adam and Eve” narrative, but with the emotional realness that the text itself refuses to allow. She spent most of the segment interrogating how the church frames Satan’s access to the garden, God’s voyeuristic “Where art thou?” routine, Adam’s blame-shifting, Eve’s eternal PR disaster, and the downright bizarre sewing-fig-leaves-with-vines situation. She also brought receipts detailing just how incoherent, contradictory, and unresolvable modern LDS doctrine is on literally every part of this chapter. It was half theology deep-dive, half roast session, and fully unhinged in the best way.
Church Teachings: [01:04:56]
aaaAAAaaa decided to outsource his entire segment this week by reading a Q&A he had previously done with ChatGPT about Moses 4. What followed was one of the funniest “official-ish doctrine” breakdowns we’ve had yet. He hit everything: whether the Fall was scheduled, why the church retroactively calls Eve heroic while still throwing her under the cosmic bus, whether God is just a divine Peeping Tom spying on naked people who don’t know what naked is, and how the church squares Satan entering Eden through a snake door. It was chaotic, deeply doctrinal, and ended up revealing just how much of LDS theology is an ever-shifting patch job held together by vibes, correlation, and selective memory.
History: [01:27:11]
Abigail wrapped up the episode with the full cultural, political, and cinematic history of Satan — not the theological being, but the American invention. She traced how Cold War paranoia, the Manson murders, the rise of serial killers, the birth of the religious right, televangelists like Falwell and Robertson, and movies like Rosemary’s Baby, The Exorcist, and The Omen combined to manufacture the Satanic Panic pipeline. She walked us through how Mormonism, eager for social legitimacy in the 60s and 70s, grabbed onto evangelical “spiritual warfare” rhetoric and never let go. By the end, Satan had gone from ancient adversary to full-blown American pop icon, political boogeyman, and Relief Society cautionary tale. It was a tour through fear, folklore, mass media, and the uniquely American tendency to blame the devil for everything from feminism to disco.
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Duration:02:02:18
Episode 127 - Goldicocks and the Three Bears
11/16/2025
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Abish brings in The Fall, a cranberry-ginger-pomegranate-gin concoction anchored by Trader Joe’s seasonal soda and garnished with pomegranate seeds as a nod to the “forbidden fruit.” The gang immediately veers into a full dissertation on Trader Joe’s plants, tiny grocery aisles, ginger snaps, and then somehow a 20-minute side-quest about Lagoon ride safety (or lack thereof). It is peak “welcome to the podcast, we’ve missed chaos.”
Scriptures: [00:24:16]
aaaAAAaaa takes Moses 3 and turns it into a deranged sci-fi lab log written by Dr. E. Lohim, creator of “living meat prototypes.” Adam becomes a beta-tested dirt man given CPR, Eve is printed from a rib in a 3D-bioprinter, and the garden is essentially an overfunded tech demo with terrible UX. The team spirals into bits about Adam trying to fuck every animal, God being forced to make Eve because Adam was an annoying “hey dad hey dad hey dad” only child, and the Hebrew behind “help meet” actually meaning an equal— something millennia of men conveniently edited out. It’s equal parts theology, parody, linguistic correction, and unhinged improv.
Church Teachings: [00:41:11]
Special guest Claudia dives into men’s mental health and how the church frames it—namely, that men are expected to be stoic, preside, provide, and repress every human emotion until it leaks out as a midlife crisis, a podcast, or a Toyota Tacoma. She breaks down the church’s gender expectations, the false dichotomy of “priesthood = strength, womanhood = nurturing,” and how harmful the “men don’t need emotional support” narrative really is. The crew riffs on cultural conditioning, therapy avoidance, and how Mormonism treats emotional vulnerability in men like a contagious sin. It’s shockingly tender, deeply real, and still full of jokes.
History: [01:19:29]
Abigail covers Harold B. Lee, president, bureaucratic fanatic, and one of Mormonism’s top contenders for “Least Fun Man in History.” She traces his Idaho upbringing, his obsession with discipline and order, his meteoric rise through church admin roles, and how he essentially architected correlation—centralized control disguised as spiritual efficiency. Abigail quotes some of his most cringe-inducing lines about women, obedience, and domestic hierarchy, and pairs them with her own early-marriage horror stories to show just how deeply his ideology soaked into Mormon culture. It’s part biography, part feminist takedown, part comedy roast—classic Abigail.
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Duration:02:19:35
Episode 126 - The Joey Touch
11/9/2025
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aaaAAAaaa kicks off with Let There Be Lime, a bright, creamy gin-based drink with lime juice, coconut cream, and a float of blue curaçao that looks “like the firmament if God had a tiki phase.” It’s equal parts creation myth and vacation cocktail—light, tart, and spiritually confusing. Between sips, the crew detours into Trader Joe’s cheese obsessions, Halloween charcuterie feats (“the meat hand”), and a long tangent about the economics of SNAP benefits that somehow circles back to cheese again. By the time anyone remembers they’re supposed to talk scripture, everyone’s already half-drunk and defending kale as if it’s theology.
Scriptures: [00:26:43]
Moroni covers Moses 2, Joseph Smith’s fanfic rewrite of Genesis. He performs it as a full-blown comedy sketch, with “Ancient Chats with Moses” hosted by God Almighty himself. Together, God and Moses walk through creation like a chaotic divine podcast: day one light mode, day two plumbing the firmament, day three inventing kale “to keep people humble,” and day six “beta testing humans.” The hosts argue about the physics of light existing before the sun, roast the logic of creating mosquitoes, and crown day seven “brunch day.” The moral? God invented gays so they could invent brunch.
Church Teachings: [00:45:20]
Abish dives into the church’s official take on creation and how much of it hinges on “order, obedience, and divinely appointed gender roles.” She walks through a church lesson that tries to marry literal creationism with modern science, calling it “a theological hostage negotiation.” The group debates why Mormon God micromanages planets like a middle manager at a failing startup, how “six days” somehow equals “six creative periods,” and how members are still expected to treat both evolution and the six-day creation as equally true. It’s the usual mix of reverence and rage—with sidebars on BYU professors, temple endowment parallels, and how women are expected to “create life” while men “create podcasts.”
History: [01:22:54]
Abigail returns with another prophet bio—this time Joseph Fielding Smith, the ultimate fun-hater of Mormonism. She kicks off the segment mid–Taco Bell Baja Blast cream pie taste test (verdict: “it’s like key lime pie, but with a hint of dew”) before diving into the century-long life of the man who hated evolution more than Satan himself. Born in 1876 and made an apostle by his father in 1910, Smith spent fifty years as church historian—basically in charge of gaslighting the entire religion into consistency. Abigail reads his wildest quotes: evolution “is as false as its author who reigns in hell,” and “a man who believes in evolution has no right to teach in the church.” She skewers his books Man, His Origin and Destiny (“Darwin is a fugly slut”) and The Way to Perfection (“Mormon Doctrine, but make it racist”), tracing how his anti-science tantrums still ripple through LDS culture today.
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Duration:02:10:38
Episode 125 - A Burning In Your Bush
11/2/2025
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The gang is back from hiatus, a little crusty but ready to dive into The Pearl of Great Price. Moroni kicks things off with the Son of God Sour, a divine little mix of bourbon, amaretto, lemon juice, and honey (or simple syrup, if you fear God less). The drink is meant to “know its divine worth,” which it does—bold, sweet, and just a little tart, much like the hosts themselves. The crew then recaps their cursed break: Abish’s nightmare Disney trip, Abigail’s and aaaAAAaaa’s southern misadventures at a vow renewal and pole-dancing class, and Moroni’s Ohio rollercoaster’s both literal and emotional. It’s a fittingly unhinged welcome back to the scriptures.
Scriptures: [00:54:19]
Abish breaks down Moses 1 and the cosmic fever dream that is Joseph Smith’s “translation” of Genesis. Set in 1830, Joseph’s new baby church is barely two months old when he decides to write a prequel to the Bible—because, apparently, God needed a director’s cut. The revelation introduces a God who creates “worlds without number,” tells Moses “you are my son,” and lets him see all creation in a dramatic lightshow. Moses promptly faints like a Victorian lady, wakes up to find Satan asking for worship, and tells him to piss off. Abish walks us through how this text flips Calvinist theology on its head: instead of depraved worms begging for grace, humanity is divine—“ants with potential,” as she puts it. The crew jokes about Moses as God’s exhausted intern, Satan as an emo theater kid, and Joseph Smith’s flair for turning blasphemy into branding.
Church Teachings: [01:13:20]
aaaAAAaaa digs into what the church officially says about Moses 1 and the Pearl of Great Price, pulling from an online church lesson manual. The emphasis is on “divine identity”—that all people are literal children of God—which the church manages to make simultaneously comforting and hierarchical. They discuss how this concept feeds into Mormon exceptionalism (“you’re divine, but only our kind of divine”) and the endless pressure to be godlike by next Tuesday. The conversation spirals into musings about eternal potential, weird church art depicting pre-mortal Moses, and whether “divine identity” still counts if you’re late on tithing.
History: [01:43:57]
Abigail takes us on a wild, bird-filled tangent before diving into the history of the Pearl of Great Price . Between discussions of ravens, ducks, and horrifying bird anatomy, she explains how this grab-bag scripture came to be. Originally compiled in 1851 by Apostle Franklin D. Richards in Liverpool, the Pearl was a scrapbook of Joseph’s “miscellaneous bullshit”—snippets of the Book of Moses, the Book of Abraham, a few hymns, and leftover revelations stapled together for British converts. Orson Pratt later padded it with fragments from the RLDS archives, and by 1880 it was canonized—essentially turning Joseph’s napkin doodles into holy writ. Abigail calls it “the bottom of the Mormon purse,” full of gum wrappers, half-translations, and divine side quests. She caps it off by gleefully pointing out all the things left out of the canon—Joseph’s most chaotic edits, contradictions, and hallucinations that even 19th-century Mormons thought were too weird.
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Duration:02:38:19
HOAMT Episode 7 - A Jesus Hors d'Oevres Situation
10/26/2025
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In today's episode Abigail, aaaAAAaaa, and special guest Lem discuss Denver Snuffer, and Lem tells all about their experience in that offshoot of the church. Also, they are all super baked. So, there are definitely tangents about things ranging from Mark Hofmann to probably less mormon adjacent things.
Enjoy, and we will be back with The Pearl of Great Price and the beginning of season 3 next Sunday!
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Duration:01:56:20
Episode 124 - The Devil ‘n Stuff
9/21/2025
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To commemorate finally escaping the swamp of the Doctrine & Covenants, Abish mixed up The Pearl of Great Peach (or Peach of Great Peach, depending on which name makes you laugh harder). It’s a fizzy peach-and-raspberry concoction topped with champagne and Chambord, garnished with peach slices, and best enjoyed while shouting “never again” at the bound copy of the D&C on your shelf . The crew also celebrated with a rowdy D&C trivia drinking game, where every wrong answer meant drinks—and every answer that was “Joseph Smith” meant everyone had to drink.
Scriptures: [00:39:23]
aaaAAAaaa tackled Section 138, Joseph F. Smith’s vision of the spirit world, and turned it into a fever-dream monologue. Instead of reverent scripture, listeners got a full-blown parody of Spirit Prison as a seminary classroom with eternal fluorescent lights, folding chairs multiplying like locusts, and missionary lessons that never end. Jesus shows up with a clipboard, Adam holds his scriptures upside down, Isaiah mutters hashtags, and the vending machines only dispense Bit-O-Honey and warm Sprite. The moral? Missionary work is eternal, naps are holy, and warm milk is cursed.
Church Teachings: [00:55:15]
Moroni dove into the many changes made to the D&C over the years. From Joseph’s 1833 Book of Commandments (cut short by mob violence), to Orson Pratt’s 1876 overhaul that added plural marriage (and dropped the monogamy section, wink wink), to the 2013 edition’s grammar clean-up, Moroni laid out how “continuing revelation” basically means “God changed his mind again.” Along the way, the hosts riffed on how the church votes on canon like it’s a bad HOA meeting, joked about Joseph’s endless pseudonyms, and noted how “doctrinal confusion” magically disappears when the PR department says so.
History: [01:11:48]
Instead of history, Abigail read a “Dear Abby” letter from listener, and former guest host, Eliza who wrote about feeling abandoned by God, suffocated by church teachings, and unsure what to do with mounting doubts. Abigail responded with compassion, validation, and a good dose of practical advice: you don’t have to cling to institutions that harm you, you’re not broken for asking hard questions, and joy is worth chasing outside the church. It was the perfect way to end the D&C slog—closing not with Joseph Smith’s nonsense, but with real human honesty from the community.
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Duration:02:30:23
HOAMT Episode 6 - Wung It
9/14/2025
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This week Abigail and aaaAAAaaa had to make a last minute trip to Denver. So, they took the recording equipment and convinced their niece and her friend to be Mile High On The Mountain Top.
Enjoy this rousing conversation about so many different things, and some of them were related to Mormons.
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Duration:02:19:45
Episode 123 - Freshly-Squeezed Ghost
9/7/2025
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Moroni brings us Alvin’s Afterlife Amaretto Amalgamation, a cocktail built on two shots of Amaretto, Porter's Peach whiskey, lemon juice, orange bitters, simple syrup, and topped with soda water. It’s sweet, a little cough-syrupy if you don’t stir it right, and surprisingly tasty once balanced out. The name comes from D&C 137, where Joseph Smith has a vision of his brother Alvin in the celestial kingdom.
Scriptures: [00:24:31]
Abish covers D&C 136 and 137. Section 136 comes from Brigham Young in 1847 at Winter Quarters, when the Saints were freezing, starving, and watching their neighbors drop dead in droves. God (conveniently through Brigham) commands the Saints to organize into neat little companies with captains, share provisions, repent fast, and stop swearing about their oxen dying. Zion, the revelation insists, isn’t just a destination but the “friends we made along the way”—with a side of martyrdom PR for Joseph and Hyrum. Section 137 rewinds to an 1836 vision Joseph had in the Kirtland Temple, where he saw Alvin chilling in the celestial kingdom despite never being baptized. This cracked open the doctrine of proxy ordinances and baptisms for the dead. Abish points out how much of this section was retroactively cobbled together from Joseph’s diary and later scribes, making it less a prophecy and more a posthumous PR edit.
Church Teachings: [00:44:17]
aaaAAAaaa decides to “take it easy” on the team by running a text-based RPG called Choose Your Salvation: A Zion Text Adventure. Spoiler: no one actually had fun. Set at Winter Quarters, the game required everyone to make “righteous” choices—obeying captains, singing “Come, Come Ye Saints,” testifying to doubters, reaffirming the Twelve, redistributing flour, and bearing witness that Zion will be redeemed. Wrong answers resulted in losing toes, getting crushed under Relief Society bonnets, or dying of poor planning. Eventually, the party “dies,” only to be resurrected into a Spirit World expansion pack, where Alvin waves from a celestial loveseat and a glowing receptionist angel chirps through onboarding. The whole thing is chaotic, hilarious, and a pitch-perfect parody of Mormon gamified obedience.
History: [01:05:05]
Abigail introduces us to one of the strangest fundamentalist spin-offs yet: The Righteous Branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Founded by Gerald Peterson Sr. after the assassination of Rulon Allred in 1977, Peterson claimed Allred’s ghost (fresh off the murder scene) laid hands on his head, healed his back pain, and ordained him “the one mighty and strong.” Soon after, he doubled down with appearances from Adam-God, Joseph Smith, Jesus, and basically the whole celestial Avengers lineup. With divine backing secured, he launched his own sect in literal nowhere—Modena, Utah (population ~15). Abigail details their tiny temples (trailers with baptismal fonts), leadership mirroring Salt Lake’s structure, and bizarre relocation to a Nevada outpost near the world-famous Clown Motel. She spices it up with tangents on ghost chiropractors, spiritual Coachella, Mormon Hydra schisms, and the surreal spectacle of this ghost town church trying to play dress-up as Zion.
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Duration:02:23:55