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Exploring the Connection Between Wisdom, Love, and the Really Real

5/3/2024
Elizabeth Oldfield is a writer, speaker, and advocate for intentional community living based in South London. Her work, including her book 'Fully Alive', explores the intersections of faith, culture, and ethics through a deeply personal lens. In a world that often trivializes love and deep connections, how can we cultivate a life of wisdom, virtue, and transcendence amidst our finite existence and growing polarization? Join John Vervaeke and Elizabeth Oldfield in a profound dialogue that explores these critical themes of human existence, drawing from Platonic to Christian thought and emphasizing the transformative power of dialogical reasoning, cognitive flexibility, and awe. Elizabeth Oldfield shares insights from her book 'Fully Alive,' an Augustinian blend of autobiographical confession and psycho-spiritual reflection that highlights relational living and the transformative power of love. The conversation addresses the trivialization of love in modern culture and advocates for a deeper understanding while navigating the complexities of polarization in politics, the comparison between psychedelic and spiritual experiences, and the intrinsic value of community and wisdom traditions in achieving a virtuous life. Discover the necessity of grounding transformative experiences in communal practices for genuine personal and societal transformation in this thought-provoking discussion. Support John's groundbreaking work and gain exclusive access to live Q&A sessions, early video releases, and more by joining our Patreon community! https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke Discover a profound exploration of love, wisdom, and the human soul in Elizabeth Oldfield's upcoming book, "Fully Alive: Tending to the Soul in Turbulent Times." https://www.amazon.com/Fully-Alive-Tending-Turbulent-Times/dp/1587436507 — “I can close my eyes now and know myself’s seen, and the deep knowing of the presence of love in my life and the way that every other moment of love, and encounter, and intimacy reflects that is the ground of my being.” - Elizabeth Oldfield [00:32:48] "Wisdom is about this loving enhancement of our connectedness. The wise person can go into a complex, messy, ill-defined situation and home in on what's relevant, summoning their agency in the right way so that they are properly responsible." - John Vervaeke [00:31:04] — 0:00 Introduction to Voices with Vervaeke: Elizabeth Oldfield' 1:30 Elizabeth Oldfield: Life, Faith, and the Quest for Existential Satisfaction 2:50 Exploring 'Fully Alive': Deep Dialogues on Belonging, Soul, and Existential Satisfaction 6:05 Plato's Insights on the Psyche, Inner Conflict, and the Pursuit of Inner Fullness 10:20 The Quest for Inner Peace, Wisdom, and Understanding Sin 14:20 The Interplay of Love, Wisdom, and the Divine in the Pursuit of Fully Aliveness 27:15 Unpacking the Realization of the Really Real: Connectedness, Love, and Presence 45:50 Identity, Cultural Scripts, and the Tension between Faith and Intellect 47:45 Expanding Our Understanding of Intelligence, Reality, and the Role of Attention 1:00:40 The Challenge of Authentic Love, Reverence, and Awe in a Trivialized World 1:13:10 Reverence, Awe, and the Cultivation of Virtue on the Path to Wisdom 1:22:50 Concluding Reflections on Love, Wisdom, and the Pursuit of Fully Aliveness — Join the Vervaeke Foundation in our mission to advance the scientifically rigorous pursuit of wisdom and make a meaningful impact in the world. https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Discover practices that deepen your virtues and help you connect more deeply with reality and relationships by joining Awaken to Meaning today. https://awakentomeaning.com/ — Authors, Ideas, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Plato Freud Pascal Dialogos Kenosis Thumos Homo Inconvartis in Se Plato’s Dialogues — Follow John...

Duration:01:26:46

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Conversations at the Crossroads of Nature and Wisdom

4/24/2024
Kyle Koch is a facilitator at Evolve Move Play, where he integrates dialogical practices into natural settings to foster deep personal connections and psychological growth. Have you ever wondered about the impact of our environment on our cognition and ability to connect with others? In this episode of Voice with Vervaeke, John and Kyle explore the integration of dialogical practices within natural settings, the psychological and communal impacts of such practices, and the potential for deep listening to forge powerful, transformative experiences. Support John's groundbreaking work and gain exclusive access to live Q&A sessions, early video releases, and more by joining our Patreon community! https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke We invite you to sign up for Evolve Move Play's "Embedded Experience" weekend workshops with Kyle Koch. Register at https://www.evolvemoveplay.com/weekend-workshops - "Memory is about the future. It’s not about the past. Memories reconstruct and reconfigure in powerful, often unconscious ways to improve your ability to foresee in a relevant, realizing manner, the future." - John Vervaeke [25:13] "Rituals only matter to the degree to which they transfer broadly and deeply into many domains in your life and transfer broadly and deeply into many layers of your psyche." - John Vervaeke [57:27] - 0:00 Rekindling Connections: Dialogue and Nature 4:50 Environmental Impact on Cognition: Embodied Practices and Deep Listening 13:10 Evolutionary Impact of Campfires: Hypnosis, Shared Attention, and Ritual for Cognition and Connectedness 11:00 The Role of Deep Listening in Dialogical Practices 22:50 Ritual and Long-Term Change: Reconstructive Memory and Internalizing Wise Spirit 29:30 The Role of Place and Virtual Reality in Storytelling and Evolutionary Constraints 32:40 Navigating Virtual Technology: Maladaptations and the Importance of Wisdom in Epistemic Vulnerability 41:00 The Evolution of Evolvability 50:00 The Power of Pilgrimage and Serious Play 59:30 Language and Expression of Transformation: Connectivity, Aliveness, and the We Space 1:06:40 Conclusion and Upcoming Opportunities for Embodied Experiences - Join the Vervaeke Foundation in our mission to advance the scientifically rigorous pursuit of wisdom and make a meaningful impact in the world. https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Discover practices that deepen your virtues and help you connect more deeply with reality and relationships by joining Awaken to Meaning today. https://awakentomeaning.com/ - Follow John Vervaeke: https://johnvervaeke.com/ https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke Follow Kyle Koch: https://www.instagram.com/trottingsparrow/ https://www.evolvemoveplay.com/ - Thank you for watching!

Duration:01:10:36

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Illuminating the Interplay: Terri Dentry and Aspasia Karageorge on Emotion, Physicality, and the Path to Healing

4/17/2024
In this episode of “Voices with Vervaeke,” John Vervaeke, alongside Terri Dentry and Aspasia Karageorge, delves into the complex interplay between emotions, chronic pain, and the mechanisms of healing within the framework of Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy (ISTDP). Through a rich dialogue, the discussion unfolds to explore the intricate ways in which pain serves not only as a physical experience but as a profound emotional and psychological defense mechanism, obscuring underlying emotional disturbances and traumas. The conversation navigates through the socialization of pain, the pivotal role of emotional awareness in healing, and the transformative potential of ISTDP in restoring agency and empowerment to individuals. By bridging emotional and physical healing, this episode illuminates the holistic approach necessary for comprehensive therapy, emphasizing the integration of diverse therapeutic practices. The engaging discourse provides compelling insights into therapy's transformative power, underscoring the importance of understanding and integrating our emotional landscapes. Bios and Links: Terri Dentry is a distinguished PhD graduate in interprofessional practice, dedicated to bridging the gap between traditional medical practices and holistic wellness approaches. With a keen focus on patient empowerment and integrated health solutions, Terri advocates for a healthcare model that values dialogical reasoning and personal journey understanding, aiming to transform patient care into a collaborative, multidimensional experience. If you’d like to reach out to Terri to share your own personal story or thoughts, please feel free to email her at terri@thinkred.com.au. Aspasia Karageorge, Psy.D., is a registered clinical psychologist with a Doctorate of Clinical Psychology and Master of Science from the University of Sydney, as well as a Master's degree in forensic psychology from the University of Otago in New Zealand. Discover more about Aspasia through her website, and stay updated on her work by following her on YouTube and on Instagram. Embark on a journey with us to tackle the Meaning Crisis by joining our exclusive Patreon group: John Vervaeke | Responding to The Meaning Crisis with The Vervaeke Foundation. Connect with John: Website | YouTube | Patreon | X Resources: The Vervaeke Foundation Awaken to Meaning VOICECRAFT Quotes: "ISTDP stands for Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy, a therapy developed by Dr. Davanloo in the 60s. Essentially, it views chronic pain as a defense against emotional experience." - Aspasia Karageorge [00:06:00] "Socialization of pain and how our narrative bias is driving a lot of this... the narrative bias coming from the early childhood experiences, and that providing the bias to what we are thinking, giving us a filter of how we are then relating to these things as we go forward in life." - Terri Dentry [00:38:04] “Modeling goes deeper in the brain than propositions.” - John Vervaeke [00:59:20] Glossary of Terms: ISTDP: Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy, a form of therapy focusing on emotional experience. Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction: Unpacking Emotions, Chronic Pain, and Rationality in Therapy 00:10:00 - Exploring the Socialization of Pain and Emotion's Role 00:15:00 - ISTDP and the Emotional Landscape: Understanding Pain as Emotional Distraction 00:24:20 - Restoring Agency and Emotional Insight: Pathways to Healing in Psychotherapy 00:43:00 - Integrating Therapies: Towards a Holistic Approach to Emotional and Physical Healing 01:07:20 - Conclusion: Embracing Complexity: Transformative Insights from ISTDP Therapy

Duration:01:10:33

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Mentoring the Machines: Setting the Course for the Future of Artificial Intelligence

4/10/2024
This episode, first released on the “Into the Impossible” channel with Dr. Brian Keating, brings together the brilliant minds of John Vervaeke and Shawn Coyne to discuss the advent of artificial general intelligence and its potential consequences. The conversation starts with the motivations behind major tech figures' drive towards AI development and touches upon the issues of trust, adaptation, and the inherent human susceptibility to self-deception. Vervaeke and Coyne, through their book "Mentoring the Machines: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow," advocate for a nuanced understanding of AI, urging for a mentorship approach to machine development that could ensure AI's alignment with human flourishing. Their dialogue also ventures into the realms of psychology, cognitive science, and the philosophical underpinnings of AI, making a compelling case for the transformative power of AI, not only technologically but also existentially for humanity. Bios and Links: Dr. Brian Keating is the Chancellor’s Distinguished Professor of Physics at UC San Diego, specializing in cosmic microwave background research to explore the universe's origins. An acclaimed writer, his book "Losing the Nobel Prize" is an Amazon Editors' favorite. He excels as a public speaker, inventor, and podcaster. Explore more at his website, follow him on Twitter, or watch his insights on YouTube. Shawn Coyne, creator of Story Grid, brings over three decades of publishing expertise, notably with the Big Five publishers, as an independent publisher, literary agent, and head of Genre Management Inc. Dive into his editing method and explore more at Story Grid. Embark on a journey with us to tackle the Meaning Crisis by joining our exclusive Patreon group: John Vervaeke | Responding to The Meaning Crisis with The Vervaeke Foundation. Connect with John: Website | YouTube | Patreon | X Resources: The Vervaeke Foundation Awaken to Meaning Mentoring the Machines: Orientation - Part One: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne Mentoring the Machines: Origins - Part 2: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne John Vervaeke Video Essay: AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist Quotes: "We should really be framing artificial intelligence as a mentoring of intelligent beings who have the capability and potentialities of becoming even perhaps better than we are." - Shawn Coyne [00:05:52] "It's only when you have genuine intelligence for the actual system or entity itself—an autopoietic system—a system that cares about information because it's taking care of itself in a moment by moment basis. Only then could you have something that would actually care about what's going on—the true, the good, or the beautiful." - John Vervaeke [00:15:05] Glossary of Terms: AGI (Artificial General Intelligence): A level of artificial intelligence that can understand, learn, and apply knowledge across a wide range of tasks at a level of competence comparable to or surpassing that of a human. Relevance Realization: The process by which cognitive beings determine what information is relevant to their goals and what is not. Autopoiesis: The property of a living system (such as a bacterial cell or a multicellular organism) that allows it to maintain and renew itself. Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:02:45 - The Genesis of "Mentoring the Machines" 00:08:50 - AI, Psychology, and the Alignment Problem 00:16:40 - The Evolution of Editing and Publishing in the AI Era 00:21:00 - Bridging Knowledge and Wisdom 00:29:00 - Einstein, Imagination, and AI's Emotional Depth 00:37:30 - Deciphering Consciousness: AI and the Hard Problem 00:44:40 - Educational Evolution: AI, Pedagogy, and the Future of Teaching 00:53:50 - AI's Impact on Personalized...

Duration:01:05:36

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Dialogues on Transformation: The Journey of Insightful Healing with Terri Dentry and Tim Adalin

4/3/2024
In this episode of “Voices with Vervaeke,” John Vervaeke is joined by Terri Dentry and Tim Adalin to discuss their unique perspectives on the intricate journey from chronic pain to insightful healing. The conversation delves into the psychological and existential dimensions that underpin true transformation, emphasizing the importance of dialogical practices and synoptic integration in achieving profound personal growth and understanding. Through a rich dialogue that navigates the nexus between philosophy, psychology, and therapeutic practice, this conversation offers deep insights into the art of healing, the cultivation of wisdom, and the transformative power of human connectivity. It stands as an essential discussion for those seeking to understand the holistic nature of healing and the potential for personal and collective evolution in the face of adversity. Guest Bio and Links: Terri Dentry is a distinguished PhD graduate in interprofessional practice, dedicated to bridging the gap between traditional medical practices and holistic wellness approaches. With a keen focus on patient empowerment and integrated health solutions, Terri advocates for a healthcare model that values dialogical reasoning and personal journey understanding, aiming to transform patient care into a collaborative, multidimensional experience. If you’d like to reach out to Terri to share your own personal story or thoughts, please feel free to email her at terri@thinkred.com.au. Tim Adalin, founder of Voicecraft, explores the intricate dynamics between participation and transformation. His philosophical inquiry spans metaphysics, consciousness, and identity, underpinning Voicecraft's mission to enrich dialogue on complex modern challenges. You can learn more about Tim Adalin at his website, follow him on YouTube, and on his Substack. Resources: Join our new Patreon: John Vervaeke | Responding to The Meaning Crisis with The Vervaeke Foundation The Vervaeke Foundation Awaken to Meaning VOICECRAFT Redefining Healing: The Synergy of Psychedelic Integration and Interprofessional Practice Chronic Pain, Trust, and Ethics: A Conversation with Terri Dentry and Nate Kinch Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis Quotes: "This is not something about this immediate moment of chronic pain requiring a healing process. This is a worldview issue that is happening to all of us from the very start." - Terri Dentry [00:14:22] "We're trying to get away from some of the fundamental ways in which agency is being implicitly understood or misunderstood in regular medical practice, and restore a proper appreciation of agency." - John Vervaeke [00:09:57] "Partly what this conversation is pointing to is that there's going to be a different kind of tension essentially immediately experienced when entering into a different relational context." - Tim Adalin [01:11:20] Glossary of Terms: Synoptic Integration: The integration of diverse perspectives and modalities to achieve a comprehensive understanding and healing approach. Interprofessional Practice: Collaboration between practitioners from different disciplines for holistic patient care. Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Research Background, and the "Seeing More" Project 00:03:50 - Transformational Journeys and the Power of Shared Pain, Vulnerability, and Relationality 00:11:36 - Agency and Relationality in Medical Practice 00:17:09 - Embodying the Meaning Crisis: Trauma, Narratives, and the Healing Process 00:28:43 - The Pivot Problem: Balancing Finitude and Transcendence in the Healing Journey 00:34:03 - Criticisms of Therapy and the Need for a Shared Worldview 00:44:12 - Dialogos and the Philosophical Silk Road Project 00:54:05 - The Significance of Dialogical Reasoning in Daily Life and Medical Interactions 01:03:34 - Building Structures for Belonging and Support: Challenges and Solutions 01:12:36 - Conclusion: Interprofessional Clinics and the Complexity of Shared...

Duration:01:19:29

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Consciousness, Intelligence, and the Quest for Meaning with Vervaeke, Henriques, Levin, and McSweeny

3/29/2024
In this episode, John Vervaeke, Gregg Henriques, Michael Levin, and Justin McSweeny come together to discuss the complexities of consciousness, intelligence, and the human condition. The conversation balances between imagination and empirical evidence, introducing cognitive light cones to frame goal-directed behavior. They explore recursive relevance realization, predictive processing, and mutual modeling to show how our sense of self and our interaction with the world are connected. Addressing the meaning crisis, the discussion acknowledges various forms of intelligence and emphasizes the transformative nature of human experiences. This episode highlights the importance of rethinking how we see ourselves, the ongoing process of self-reconstruction, and the value of interdisciplinary dialogue in deepening our understanding of human existence and consciousness. Bios and Links: Gregg Henriques, Ph.D., is a professor of graduate psychology at James Madison University and founder of the Unified Theory of Knowledge. Discover more about Henriques through his website, and follow his insights on Twitter at @henriqgx. Michael Levin, Ph.D., is a distinguished professor and director of the Allen Discovery Center at Tufts University, specializing in developmental biology and biophysics. His pioneering research explores the bioelectric patterns that guide growth and form. Explore Levin's groundbreaking work on his lab's website, and follow his latest discoveries on Twitter at @drmichaellevin. Justin McSweeny is the visionary host of the Idea Cast Interview Series, where he facilitates thought-provoking discussions on a wide array of intellectual topics. Access episodes on his YouTube channel, and connect with him for updates on LinkedIn. Embark on a journey with us to tackle the Meaning Crisis by joining our exclusive Patreon group: John Vervaeke | Responding to The Meaning Crisis with The Vervaeke Foundation. Connect with John: Website | YouTube | Patreon | X Resources: The Vervaeke Foundation Awaken to Meaning Transcendent Naturalism Ep. 1 | Dr. John Vervaeke and Gregg Henriques The Elusive I - Part 1 - The Cognitive Science Show Levin, M. (2019). The Computational Boundary of a “Self”: Developmental Bioelectricity Drives Multicellularity and Scale-Free Cognition. Frontiers in Psychology, 10. https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.02688 Vervaeke, J., Lillicrap, T. P., & Richards, B. A. (2009, October 26). Relevance Realization and the Emerging Framework in Cognitive Science. Journal of Logic and Computation. https://doi.org/10.1093/logcom/exp067 Transformative Experience - L. A. Paul Quotes: "What biology does is assumes that you can't just learn the structure of the past. You have to make problem-solving agents." - Michael Levin [00:39:10] "When you're modeling the world, you're always, to some degree, modeling yourself, and as you're modeling yourself, you're always, to some degree, modeling the world. The two are interpenetrating." - John Vervaeke [00:16:30] Glossary of Terms: Cognitive Light Cone: A conceptual framework used to describe the spatial and temporal limits of an entity's cognition, determining what it can perceive and influence. Relational Frame Theory (RFT): A theory of human language and cognition that focuses on how humans learn and how language interacts with cognition. Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction and the Balance Between Imaginal and Empirical 00:02:00 - Understanding Complexification through Layered Ontology 00:04:30 - The Evolution of Goal-Directed Behavior and Cognitive Light Cones 00:12:30 - Recursive Relevance, Predictive Processing, and Mutual Modeling 00:30:00 - Addressing the Crisis of Meaning through Diverse Intelligence 00:38:00 - Transformative Experiences: Reconstructing Self and Reality 00:52:00 - Rationality, Dialogical Self, and Evolutionary Perspectives 01:16:00 - Conclusion: Interdisciplinary Dialogue and Final Reflections

Duration:01:23:48

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Engaging the Imaginal: Kasra Mirzaie on IFS and the Meaning Crisis

3/27/2024
In this episode of ”Voices with Vervaeke,” John Vervaeke continues his ongoing exploration of Internal Family Systems (IFS) theory with psychotherapist, clinician, and researcher Kasra Mirzaie. Kasra shares his insights into the cognitive, existential, and spiritual aspects of IFS, highlighting its potential to help individuals make sense of their inner conflicts, regulate emotions, and resolve developmental psychopathology. With a focus on dialectic, mythos, and serious play, Kasra explains how IFS can help individuals forge and come into contact with different aspects of their being and identity, promoting healing and transformation. Throughout the conversation, John and Kasra explore the philosophical and spiritual dimensions of IFS and how it can be integrated with other therapeutic approaches to promote participatory knowing, self-transcendence, and a deeper understanding of the self. Delving into poignant examples and transformative insights, the conversation illuminates the profound impact of embracing our multiplicity through IFS, offering listeners a pathway to understanding and healing that transcends traditional therapeutic boundaries. Guest Bio and Links: Kasra Mirzaie is a psychotherapist, researcher, and educator with a focus on emotion regulation and developmental psychopathology. Kasra brings a unique perspective to the discussion, combining clinical experience with a deep interest in philosophical psychology and meaning-making processes. Join our new Patreon: John Vervaeke | Responding to The Meaning Crisis with The Vervaeke Foundation The Vervaeke Foundation Awaken to Meaning Voices with Vervaeke: Wisdom Through the Imaginal: IFS Insights with Seth Allison Part 3 Chronic Pain, Trust, and Ethics: A Conversation with Terri Dentry and Nate Kinch Many Minds, One Self: Evidence for a Radical Shift in Paradigm - Richard C. Schwartz Phenomenological Bioethics: Medical Technologies, Human Suffering, and the Meaning of Being Alive - Fredrik Svenaeus Thomas Fuchs: In Defence of the Human Being: Foundational Questions of an Embodied Anthropology Ecology of the Brain: The phenomenology and biology of the embodied mind (International Perspectives in Philosophy and Psychiatry) Somatic Internal Family Systems Therapy: Awareness, Breath, Resonance, Movement, and Touch in Practice--Endorsed by top experts in therapeutic healing modalities - Susan McConnell Simurgh: A Journey in Search of the Truth - Azar Aryanpour Quotes: “My take on IFS is that it's actually a model of the living, in self-organizing psyche that is composed of living things. Those interact with each other in a certain qualitative space and relationship that we would call the self.” - Kasra Mirzaie [00:05:09] “The body is really fundamental to keeping us anchored to the world... if we train the mind to properly listen, it can act as a significant counterbalance to spiritual bypassing and hubristic self-deception." - John Vervaeke, paraphrasing Merleau-Ponty [01:13:45] Glossary of Terms: Internal Family Systems (IFS): A therapeutic approach that recognizes and addresses multiple sub-personalities or parts within each individual. The Imaginal: A concept referring to a creative and transformative space that goes beyond mere imagination, facilitating deep healing and self-discovery. Chapters: [00:00:00] - Introduction to Kasra Mirzaie: Insights into Psychotherapy, Research, and IFS [00:08:18] - Enhancing Self-Awareness: Salience, Perspective-Taking, and the Journey Within [00:17:38] - Bridging Kant and Vervaeke: Participatory Knowing and the Self in IFS [00:30:29] - Mythos and Identity: Cultural Echoes and the Role of the Imaginal in Healing [00:42:43] - IFS and Modern Psychotherapy: Addressing Mental Health and Meaning [00:53:29] - Socratic Integration in IFS: Bridging Reflection and Healing Within a Pedagogical Framework [01:07:13] - Addressing Self-Deception in IFS: Integrating Embodiment...

Duration:01:29:39

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Faith in Dialogue: Navigating Complexity and Transformation with Jordan Hall Part 2

3/22/2024
Dive deeper into the transformative journey with John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall as they continue their exploration into faith, meaning, and the power of Dialogos. This second part of their conversation delves into the evolution of Christianity, the limitations of the scientific worldview, and the urgent meta-crisis that beckons a collective awakening. Through a blend of philosophical depth and actionable insight, John and Jordan navigate the realms of relationality, the potential of imaginal engagement, and the intricate pathways toward spiritual and intellectual enrichment. This episode is a testament to the transformative potential of deep, respectful dialogue in uncovering nuanced understandings and fostering growth on both personal and collective levels. Guest Bio and Links: Jordan Hall is a technology entrepreneur with several years of experience building disruptive companies. He is interested in philosophy, artificial intelligence, and complex systems and has a background in law. Hall has worked for several technology companies and was the founder and CEO of DivX. He is currently involved in various think tanks and institutes and is focused on upgrading humanity's capacity for thought and action. Listeners can learn more about Jordan on his YouTube channel, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMzT-mdCqoyEv_-YZVtE7MQ his Medium, https://medium.com/deep-code, and on Twitter, @greenhall Resources: Join our new Patreon: John Vervaeke | Responding to The Meaning Crisis with The Vervaeke Foundation The Vervaeke Foundation Awaken to Meaning Mentioned Conversations: Faith in Dialogue: Exploring Christian Virtues in a Diverse World with Jordan Hall Part 1 The Religion of Tomorrow | Transcendent Naturalism #11 with Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall Practical Eschatology | Transcendent Naturalism #12 with Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall Embodiment and the Metacrisis with Rafe Kelley Books, Articles, and Publications: The Blind Spot: Why Science Cannot Ignore Human Experience - Adam Frank, Marcelo Gleiser, Evan Thompson The Mind of Whitehead: Adventure in Ideas - Roland Faber Depths As Yet Unspoken - Roland Faber, Andrew M Davis Hall, J. (2018, November 8). An inquiry concerning science and religion. Medium. Quotes: "The scientific worldview requires that you step away from the experiment, observe as an objective fact, and then coordinate with other potential subjects on an increasing precision of your ability to articulate facts about objective reality." - Jordan Hall [00:17:40] “Understanding faith as belief is inadequate. Trying to understand what science does as just the propositional manipulation of belief is wrong for all kinds of reasons.” - John Vervaeke [00:46:48] Glossary of Terms: Meta-Crisis: The complex, interwoven crises threatening global civilization and human flourishing. Scientific Worldview: The perspective that emphasizes empirical evidence and rational analysis, often overshadowing subjective and experiential knowledge. Chapters: [00:00:00] - Introduction and Recap of Dialogos [00:03:15] - Navigating the Meta-Crisis: Beyond the Scientific Worldview [00:10:40] - Meta-Crisis, Scientific Worldview, and Christianity's Transformation [00:19:11] - Dissecting First-Person Experience in a Third-Person Dominated Culture [00:22:38] - The Influence of Simulated Perception and Cartesian Dualism [00:32:20] - Bridging Intelligibility, Science, and Spirituality [00:44:58] - Overcoming Conflicts: Science, Religion, and Propositional Tyranny [00:59:00] - The Virtue of Humility and the Balance of Finitude and Transcendence [01:06:00] - Parental Love: Divine Relations and Agency [01:22:25] - Humility and Embodiment: Towards Communal Being [01:32:02] - Conclusion: Friendship and Future Conversations Connect with John: Website | YouTube | Patreon | X | Facebook

Duration:01:30:45

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Chronic Pain, Trust, and Ethics: A Conversation with Terri Dentry and Nate Kinch

3/20/2024
In this episode of “Voices with Vervaeke,” Terri Dentry and Nate Kinch join host John Vervaeke to explore the intersection of chronic pain, dialog, reasoning, and socio-technology ethics. Drawing from Nate's personal experience with chronic pain and his background in organizational design, the conversation delves into the challenges corporations face in exhibiting benevolence and integrity, the biopsychosocial nature of trust, and the importance of understanding one's perspective in navigating chronic pain journeys. The discussion also highlights the need for a shift in language and models to better understand and address chronic pain, as well as the potential of the 4E model in changing the conversation. With a focus on empowering individuals and fostering equal partnerships in dialogue, this episode encourages listeners to share their lived experiences and contribute to a transformative understanding of chronic pain. Guest Bio and Links: Terri Dentry is a distinguished PhD graduate in interprofessional practice, dedicated to bridging the gap between traditional medical practices and holistic wellness approaches. With a keen focus on patient empowerment and integrated health solutions, Terri advocates for a healthcare model that values dialogical reasoning and personal journey understanding, aiming to transform patient care into a collaborative, multidimensional experience. Nathan Kinch, a sociotechnology ethicist, combines personal passion with a decade of experience in leading global transformations, focusing on ethics and trustworthiness within organizations. His work emphasizes aligning practices with core values and fostering environments of trust. Listeners can learn more about: Terri Dentry on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terridentry/. Nate Kinch at his website, http://www.trustworthyby.design/ on LinkedIn, https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathankinch/ and on his Substack, https://trustworthy.substack.com/ Resources: Join our new Patreon: John Vervaeke | Responding to The Meaning Crisis with The Vervaeke Foundation The Vervaeke Foundation Awaken to Meaning VOICECRAFT Kinch, N. (2023, December). What's trust got to do with it? The RSA. Kinch, N. (2023, October). Three reasons why AI ethics is struggling The RSA. Sull, D., Sull, C., & Chamberlain, A. (2020). When It Comes to Culture, Does Your Company Walk the Talk? ResearchGate. A Spirit of Trust: A Reading of Hegel’s Phenomenology - Robert B. Brandom Quotes: "My work is defined as sociotechnology ethics. I examine the relationship between our values, various aspects of the civilizational stack, and how we design different technologies. This covers a wide range of areas, including machine learning, AI, synthetic biology, and medical and clinical contexts." - Nate Kinch [00:02:58] "Part of that journey is very personal, as people must look at how they view their own experiences. We want to help them see how others go through it and learn from their journeys." - Terri Dentry, [00:01:23] "Thinking of trust primarily as a psychological trait is to fundamentally misunderstand it. " - John Vervaeke [00:16:57] Glossary of Terms: Biopsychosocial Model: An approach to healthcare that integrates biological, psychological, and social factors. Chapters: [00:00:00] - Overview and Introduction to Guests Terri Dentry and Nate Kinch [00:04:20] - Navigating the Complex Terrain of Trust, Transformation, and Ethical Re-architecture in Modern Organizations [00:34:40] - Bridging Dialogues: Empowerment and Understanding in Healthcare and Beyond [00:48:41] - Nate’s Personal Journey of Healing and Discovery [01:07:13] - Beyond Healing: Integrating Spirituality and Meaning [01:18:00] - Concluding Thoughts: Wisdom, Healing, and Collective Insight Connect with John: Website | YouTube | Patreon | X | Facebook

Duration:01:24:31

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AI Sages and the Ethical Frontier: Exploring Human Values, Embodiment, and Spiritual Realms

3/15/2024
In this episode, first released on the “Transfigured” YouTube channel, John Vervaeke and Sam Tideman explore the future of AI, grappling with ethical, philosophical, and spiritual questions surrounding the creation of 'AI sages.' Delving into the nature of wisdom, they consider whether machines can truly comprehend truth, goodness, and beauty. As they examine embodiment, purpose, and socio-cultural context, Vervaeke and Tideman ponder if AI can become wise and understand vastly different minds. From historical sage archetypes to AI cults, they tackle complex technology and morality intersections, even venturing into AI's role in spiritual realms. Join us for a profound reflection on imbuing AI with wisdom and the existential risks and opportunities ahead. Sam Tideman, an accomplished healthcare data scientist with an MS in Biostatistics, blends his analytical acumen with a passion for theology in his podcast, "Transfigured." The podcast features long-form discussions exploring the identity of Jesus, reflecting Sam's unique intersection of scientific expertise and spiritual inquiry. Glossary of Terms Silicon Sages: Hypothetical AI entities that have achieved a state of enlightenment Molokian Forces: Forces that manipulate and control AI development for their own purposes Resources John Vervaeke Website: https://johnvervaeke.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke X: https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn/ Sam Tideman YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg7Ed0lecvko58ibuX1XHng Join our new Patreon https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke The Vervaeke Foundation - https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Awaken to Meaning - https://awakentomeaning.com/ John Vervaeke YouTube Awakening from the Meaning Crisis https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ Delving into the Frontiers of Artificial General Intelligence with Sam Tideman https://youtu.be/TxZdwrjM96I?si=jCiREippX66rM-Lx Wisdom in the Age of AI: A Philosophical Quest with Vervaeke, Pageau, and Schindler https://youtu.be/r3VXcPK7fG8?si=7hLit5JWo_cnFJ9j AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-_RdKiDbz4&list=PLND1JCRq8Vui2YOOfrxbeRwJk5jZPmAth History of Philosophy Without Any Gaps https://www.historyofphilosophy.net/ Personification: Using the Dialogical Self in Psychotherapy and Counselling - John Rowan https://www.amazon.com/Personification-Using-Dialogical-Psychotherapy-Counselling/dp/0415433460 Many Minds, One Self: Evidence for a Radical Shift in Paradigm - Richard C. Schwartz https://www.amazon.com/Many-Minds-One-Self-Evidence/dp/0692957340 The Others Within Us: Internal Family Systems, Porous Mind, and Spirit Possession - Robert Falconer https://www.amazon.com/Others-Within-Us-Internal-Possession/dp/B0C12JXVBJ Quotes "I want to convey that I am of the firm conviction that my proposal has risks in it. I don't want to pretend that there's some sort of dewy-eyed optimism here. I'm making a proposal that I think is sort of the best that can be made within otherwise hellacious alternatives." - John Vervaeke [00:02:39] “If you don't put the ability to care about self-deception and motivated self-correction into these machines, they will fall prey to the fact that intelligence is only weakly predictive of rationality.” - John Vervaeke [00:17:47] Chapters [00:00:00] - Introduction [00:01:20] - The Possibility of AI Sages and Conjuring AI Demons [00:04:40] - Thresholds and Decision Points in AI Development [00:09:20] - Enlightened AI and the True, Good, and Beautiful [00:13:37] - Preconditions for Helping AI Become More Wise [00:19:40] - The Importance of Embodiment and Purpose in AI [00:28:00] - Autopoiesis and Normative Orientation in AI [00:33:20] - Wisdom as a...

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Exploring the Dynamics of Contact Improvisation: A Discussion on Ecology of Practices with John Vervaeke, Seth Dellinger, and Ken Manheimer

3/13/2024
In this episode, first released on Seth Dellinger's Move with Seth YouTube channel, John Vervaeke, Ken Manheimer, and Seth Dellinger explore the concept of "ecology of practices" through the lens of contact improvisation. They discuss the modern "meaning crisis" caused by societal disconnect and fragmentation, advocating for shared agency and transjective participation to address these issues. Manheimer's experience in contact improvisation reveals its potential for co-creation and mutual discovery, emphasizing the need to extend rationality beyond traditional bounds. This conversation showcases contact improvisation as a vital practice for fostering sacred participation and confronting the meaning crisis. Seth Dellinger is a movement practitioner, embodied dialogue facilitator, and the host of the Move with Seth podcast. He is passionate about cultivating presence, empathy, and meaningful connections through mindful movement and conversation. Ken Manheimer is a long-time practitioner and coordinator of contact improvisation in Washington, D.C. He is also a computer programmer with a deep interest in the intersection of movement, dialogue, and personal growth. Ken is dedicated to fostering community and exploring the transformative potential of shared experiences. Glossary of Terms Ecology of Practices: A framework for understanding the coordinated use of diverse practices to enhance cognitive flexibility and combat self-deception. Contact Improvisation: A dance practice emphasizing physical interaction and mutual responsiveness without predetermined steps or movements. John Vervaeke: Website: https://johnvervaeke.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke X: https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn/ Seth Dellinger: Website: https://sethdellinger.com/ Ken Manheimer: Website: https://myriadicity.net/ Resources Join our new Patreon https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke The Vervaeke Foundation - https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Awaken to Meaning - https://awakentomeaning.com/ John Vervaeke YouTube Awakening from the Meaning Crisis https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ Vervaeke, J., & Mastropietro, C. (2021). Dialectic into Dialogos and the Pragmatics of No-thingness in a Time of Crisis. Eidos. A Journal for Philosophy of Culture, 5(2), 58-77. https://eidos.uw.edu.pl/dialectic-into-dialogos-and-the-pragmatics-of-no-thingness-in-a-time-of-crisis/ Chiappe, D., & Vervaeke, J. (2018). The Experience of Presence in the Mars Exploration Rover Mission. Presence: Teleoperators and Virtual Environments, 27(4), 400-409. https://doi.org/10.1162/pres_a_00337 Chiappe, D., & Vervaeke, J. (2020). The enactment of shared agency in teams exploring Mars through rovers. Phenomenology and the Cognitive Sciences, 1-25. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11097-021-09791-6 Chiappe, D., & Vervaeke, J. (2021). Distributed cognition and the experience of presence in the Mars Exploration Rover Mission. Frontiers in Psychology, 12. https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.689932 East Coast Contact Improv Jam - https://eastcoastjam.com/ Contact Quarterly. (2022, November 5). Magnesium (1972): Official Trailer [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gEfVJBhwrQ Homsher, S., & Humphrey, J. (n.d.). Steve Homsher and Jess Humphrey in a playful contact improvisation [Video]. YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuOmuDF1C5g&t=0s Quotes "The basic idea behind the Ecology of Practice is...a way of trying to deal with...our cognition, which isn't just our knowing, it's our entire sense-making apparatus." - John Vervaeke [00:03:20] "Contact improvisation...it's an experiential thing that you do in a deep way with someone else where neither person is leading." - Ken Manheimer [00:09:14] "Participatory knowing is the deepest grounding...

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Beyond the One: Unraveling Plotinus and Pure Relationality with Robert Gray and Eric Orwoll

3/8/2024
In this episode, John Vervaeke, Robert Gray, and Eric Orwell explore the intricacies of Plotinus, Neo-Platonism, and pure relationality. They meticulously analyze James Filler's thought-provoking paper, viewing its ideas through Heidegger's philosophy and the essence of language. The concept of pure relationality and its impact on our understanding of reality is thoroughly examined, highlighting key themes such as the One, sacredness, and ethical dimensions. Diverse perspectives are brought into dialogue, and traditional views are critically assessed, as the guests reconstruct philosophical concepts for the contemporary world. The episode offers both grounding exercises and detailed analysis, taking listeners on a journey through ancient wisdom to discover its relevance in addressing today's challenges. Eric Orwoll is a Christian Platonist philosopher and the creator of the Understanding Platonism and Aarvoll YouTube channels. Robert Gray is the creator of The Meditating Philosopher YouTube channel. Glossary of Terms Relational Ontology: The philosophical study that posits relations rather than substances as the fundamental constituents of reality. Neoplatonism: A philosophical system that emphasizes the spiritual and metaphysical aspects of reality, drawing on Plato's ideas. John Vervaeke: Website: https://johnvervaeke.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke X: https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn/ Eric Orwoll YouTube: Understanding Plato: https://www.youtube.com/@understandingplato1134/ Aarvoll: https://www.youtube.com/@ericorwoll/ X: https://twitter.com/aarvoll_ Robert Gray Email: meditatingphilosopher@gmail.com YouTUbe: www.youtube.com/@TheMeditatingPhilosopher Join our new Patreon https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke The Vervaeke Foundation - https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Awaken to Meaning - https://awakentomeaning.com/ John Vervaeke YouTube Awakening from the Meaning Crisis https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ Books, Articles, and Publications The One as Pure Relation in Plotinus - Filler, James (2019). International Journal of the Platonic Tradition https://brill.com/view/journals/jpt/13/1/article-p1_1.xml Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being: Relation as Ontological Ground - James Filler https://www.amazon.com/dp/3031309065 The Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe: A New Kind of Reality Theory - Christopher Langan https://www.amazon.com/Cognitive-Theoretic-Model-Universe-Reality-Theory/dp/0971916225 Essential Difference: Toward a Metaphysics of Emergence - James Blachowicz https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Difference-Toward-Metaphysics-Emergence/dp/1438443323 Quotes "It reminded me of the attitude towards language in the Platonic dialogues, where Socrates moves into something more poetic, almost verse. There's that shift between prosaic, dialectical investigation and mytho-poetic, dreamlike exposition. That's interesting; I've identified those mythic sections often contain the deepest insights about the nature of reality." - Eric Orwoll [00:07:06] "It helped to explain how and why those two are non logically one. That gave me a profound aha. Then, the critique of substance in the Aristotelian sense, where the subject predicate nature of logic and language is the same fundamental structure of reality, reality is made up of independently existing things that contain properties or enter into action." - John Vervaeke [00:16:00] Chapters [00:00:00] - Introduction and Grounding Exercise [00:03:20] - Overview of James Filler's Work [00:08:20] - Theological Poetic Language and Plato's Ontology [00:12:40] - Hemispheric Approaches to Reasoning [00:14:07] - John's Personal and Philosophical Reflections on Filler's Work [00:20:08] - Dissecting Filler's Arguments: Exegesis and Ontological...

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Exploring the Transrational: A Journey into the Realms of Consciousness with Vivian Dittmar

3/6/2024
In their second dialogue on "Voices with Vervaeke," John Vervaeke and Vivian Dittmar explore transrational thought, emotions, and transformative practices, embarking on a profound journey into human experience. Vivian introduces a map of five distinct sensations, illuminating the practice of conscious release for personal growth, emotional maturity, and integrating higher consciousness with shadow aspects. Their discussion delves into pre-rational, rational, and transrational modes of thought, emphasizing the importance of integrating various forms of thinking to navigate modern cognitive landscapes effectively. This intellectual and experiential exploration offers valuable perspectives on human consciousness, emotional work, and the potential of transrational thought to enrich our self-understanding and worldview. Vivian Dittmar, a globally influenced author, speaker, and wisdom teacher, has dedicated two decades to enhancing holistic development. Her diverse upbringing inspired her to explore beyond conventional education, delving into various cultures' wisdom. Through her books and the Be the Change Foundation, Dittmar seeks to redefine prosperity, focusing on emotional intelligence, ecological sustainability, social justice, and spiritual fulfillment, aiming to address the crises facing modern society. Glossary of Terms Transrational: Going beyond or surpassing human reason or the rational; nonverbal; nonlinear; abstract. Pre-rational: Preceding the development of intelligence. Rational: A state of consciousness characterized by logical, linear, and verbal thinking. Conscious Release: A practice developed by Vivian Dittmar that fosters the integration of higher states of consciousness with shadow aspects. John Vervaeke Website: https://johnvervaeke.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke X: https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn/ Vivian Dittmar Website: https://viviandittmar.com YouTube: https://youtube.com/@viviandittmareng Resources: Join our new Patreon https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke The Vervaeke Foundation - https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Awaken to Meaning - https://awakentomeaning.com/ Voices with Veraeke: Exploring Emotions and Transrational Wisdom with Vivian Dittmar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWLfOFe0lo The Emotional Backpack: How to release unhealthy feelings - Vivian Dittmar https://viviandittmar.net/en/the-emotional-backpack-book/ Your Inner GPS: Find Clarity with the Five Ways of Thinking - Vivian Dittmar https://viviandittmar.net/en/your-inner-gps-book/ Workshop: “How Big Is Your Emotional Backpack?” https://signup.lebensweise.net/free-backpack-workshop Online Course: “The Emotional Backpack” ► https://campus.lebensweise.net/o/the-emotional-backpack-online-course/ Rational Intuition: Philosophical Roots, Scientific Investigations - Lisa Osbeck, Barbara Held https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Intuition-Philosophical-Scientific-Investigations/dp/1316621219 Quotes "One of the things that became really clear to me is that the transrational by nature has a very difficult stance in today's world because it speaks to us in a way that is nonverbal, nonlinear, abstract." - Vivian Dittmar [00:16:00] “The ancient world had a whole faculty and term for nous and noesis, and that was all lost with the loss of our Neoplatonic heritage." - John Vervaeke [00:16:18] "We have a transrational faculty that is also proactive, that is not receptive, and that's intention. It’s really challenging for people to understand in our cultural framework because we very quickly confuse intention with a goal." - Vivian Dittmar [00:57:43] Chapters [00:00:00] - Introduction and Overview of the Poly Crisis and Emotional Intelligence [00:04:00] - Differentiating Sensations, Emotions, and Consciousness [00:11:13] - Pre-rational, Rational, and Transrational...

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Wisdom Through the Imaginal: IFS Insights with Seth Allison Part 3

3/1/2024
John Vervaeke and Seth Allison revisit the transformative realm of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, building on their enriching dialogues from previous sessions. They unpack the intricate dynamics between the "self" and its various "parts," shedding light on how these elements can be harmonized for deep self-reflection and healing. The dialogue includes valuable insights and clarifications from Richard Schwartz, the creator of IFS, reinforcing the framework's compatibility with traditional psychological methods and its efficacy for safely navigating the inner self. The conversation evolves to explore the role of IFS in addressing the existential questions posed by the modern meaning crisis, highlighting its significance in cultivating wisdom and integrating the psychological with the spiritual. This episode stands as a testament to the synergy between cognitive science and philosophical inquiry, inviting listeners on a journey toward enlightenment, emotional resilience, and a richer engagement with their internal landscape. Seth Allison is a renowned psychotherapist specializing in internal family systems (IFS) and its integration with traditional psychotherapy. With years of clinical practice, Seth brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the conversation, offering valuable insights into the therapeutic journey. Glossary of Terms IFS (Internal Family Systems): A psychotherapeutic model that identifies and interacts with various sub-personalities or parts within each person's mental system. Sapiential - relating to wisdom John Vervaeke: Website: https://johnvervaeke.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke X: https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn/ Seth Allison: Website: Grow Collective - https://www.growcollective.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seth-allison-13abb811b/ Related Resources Join our new Patreon https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke The Vervaeke Foundation - https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Awaken to Meaning - https://awakentomeaning.com/ The Others Within Us: Internal Family Systems, Porous Mind, and Spirit Possession - Robert Falconer https://www.amazon.com/Others-Within-Us-Internal-Possession/dp/B0C12JXVBJ/ John Vervaeke on Mystical Experience and the Pursuit of Wisdom - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5_YRWrX3mw Quotes "We have a moral obligation to ask what is a proper framework to bring to bear upon these experiences so that people can metabolize them and realize them as the cultivation of virtue and wisdom, and not spin them off into narcissism or inflation and go down rabbit holes of their own personal magical metaphysics." - Seth Allison (Quoting John Vervaeke) [00:37:16] "It is more important, and the integration is in both of those dimensions. How well does it integrate with many domains broadly and deeply in your life? How well does it transform many levels, broadly and deeply, of the psyche? That's the integration. Our culture gives us precious little on both of those, and even more importantly, not only both of them, but how they are properly coordinated and speak to each other in a self-correcting fashion." - John Vervaeke [00:32:06] Chapters [00:00:00] - Introduction and Background on IFS [00:01:00] - Corrections and Insights from Richard Schwartz [00:06:00] - Deep Dive into IFS Concepts [00:14:45] - Addressing the Modern Meaning Crisis [00:18:00] - Spiritual Rediscovery and Transformation [00:40:00] - IFS Practice Session [01:14:00] - Reflecting on the Session's Impact [01:33:10] - Closing Reflections and Workshop Announcement

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Faith in Dialogue: Exploring Christian Virtues in a Diverse World with Jordan Hall Part 1

2/28/2024
Join John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall on a thought-provoking journey into faith and meaning. Beyond mere intellectual debate, they delve into the heart of Christian virtues, the transformative potential of the imaginal, and the profound depths of dialogue. Through their respectful and insightful exchange, they navigate complex themes such as love, relationality, and the richness of the imaginal realm, illuminating how engagement with diverse spiritual traditions can deepen understanding and faith. John and Jordan provide actionable insights for personal and collective growth, presenting an open invitation for introspection of beliefs, fostering an environment for meaningful engagement, and unlocking the potential for true transformation. This conversation offers a unique opportunity to discover the complexities of faith and meaning, along with pathways to enrich spiritual and intellectual lives. Jordan Hall, a pioneering figure at the forefront of societal transformation, co-founded MP3.com and DivX, catalyzing revolutions in music and online video. His ventures, such as Neurohacker Collective and Civium Project, harness cutting-edge technology and deep philosophical insights to address the metacrisis facing humanity. Currently, as Executive Chairman of Qualia Lifesciences, he leads efforts in human optimization, embodying the ethos of the fellowship of the spirit and inspiring profound dialogues on reimagining the future. Glossary of Terms Dialogos: A form of dialogue aimed at transcending mere conversation to reach deeper understanding and connection. Imaginal: Pertaining to a mode of perception that transcends the purely sensory, engaging with symbols and the deeper aspects of reality. Christian Virtues: Fundamental qualities valued in Christianity, such as faith, hope, and love. John Vervaeke: Website: https://johnvervaeke.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke X: https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn/ Jordan Hall YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMzT-mdCqoyEv_-YZVtE7MQ Medium: https://medium.com/deep-code X: https://twitter.com/jgreenhall?lang=en Join our new Patreon https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke The Vervaeke Foundation - https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Awaken to Meaning - https://awakentomeaning.com/ Books, Articles, Videos, and Publications Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis https://www.amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926 The Courage to Be - Paul Tillich https://www.amazon.com/Courage-Be-Paul-Tillich/dp/0300084714 Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Darkness-Joseph-Conrad/dp/1936594145 Boden, Margaret. (2009). Creativity in a nutshell. Think. 5. 83-96. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/209436199_Creativity_in_a_nutshell The Psychological Drivers of the Metacrisis John Vervaeke, Iain McGilchrist, Daniel Schmachtenberger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7i1ughRGcQ Embodiment and the Metacrisis with Rafe Kelley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVJztMRSeek&t=307s Quotes "Make ourselves vehicles and instruments, both. That's something that's capable both of holding and expressing. So, I am the life and the light, and I am the way. Not the destination, not the end of the journey, but the way."​​ - Jordan Hall [00:44:11] "The invitation to take up your cross and bear it, to step through the crucifixion of the human nature, must, in fact, be voluntarily self-crucified, and human will must surrender itself into a sort of a divine coupling. That's the stepping through of the win-lose into the win-win."​​ - Jordan Hall [01:20:00] Chapters 00:03:00 - Christian Virtues and the Imaginal: A Journey into Spiritual Depth 00:20:00 - The Power of Transformative Dialogue: Unity and Deepening Faith 00:28:00 - Bridging Divides: The Quest for Global Unity and Transcendent Communication 00:52:00 - Faith's...

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Unveiling Wisdom Through Movement with Rafe Kelley

2/23/2024
John Vervaeke and Rafe Kelley join forces to explore the profound connection between movement, nature, and personal growth. Kelley, a movement educator, reveals his "Ecology of Practices," a unique blend of parkour, martial arts, and nature-based movement designed to cultivate a holistic wisdom practice. Discover the transformative power of movement as it pushes physical boundaries, fosters environmental connection, and opens doors to personal evolution. Learn how Kelley integrates philosophy to build a wisdom practice that resonates not just in the mind, but deep within the body itself. Explore the challenges and rewards of connecting with nature through movement, and gain valuable insights into the future of movement culture and its potential to impact individuals and communities alike. This episode offers a thought-provoking journey for athletes, beginners, and anyone seeking deeper meaning, leaving you eager to explore the transformative power of movement in your own life. Rafe Kelley, founder of Evolve Move Play, pioneers a unique movement philosophy, merging parkour with martial arts and a deep connection to nature, fostering a holistic wisdom practice. With over two decades of teaching experience, he offers transformative retreats, workshops, and online courses worldwide. His work emphasizes the synergy between body, psyche, and environment, inviting exploration of personal potential and the sacred in movement. Glossary of Terms Ecology of Practices: A set of activities or habits that a group of people commit to doing together. Parkour: A discipline focused on navigating obstacles efficiently and creatively. Movement Culture: A broad approach to physical training that incorporates elements from various disciplines for holistic development. John Vervaeke: Website: https://johnvervaeke.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke X: https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn/ Rafe Kelley Website: https://www.evolvemoveplay.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/rafekelley X: https://twitter.com/rafekelley Join our new Patreon https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke The Vervaeke Foundation - https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Awaken to Meaning - https://awakentomeaning.com/ John Vervaeke YouTube Awakening from the Meaning Crisis https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ Quotes "Discipline ultimately means to follow, and you don't discipline punitively; you discipline something by getting it oriented to something that it wants to follow. That's an important idea." - [01:26:20] John Vervaeke "Parkour invites you to fall in love with your experience of being by opening up new affordances in how you perceive and experience the world, bringing joy and the potential for the flow state." - [01:41:00] Rafe Kelley "If we want to solve the meaning crisis and the meta crisis, we have to fall more in love with being. And that's not something we can do just through dialogue. It's something we have to embody." - [01:43:20] Rafe Kelley Chapters [00:00:00] - Introduction and Background of Rafe Kelley [00:02:20] - Return to the Source Retreat Experience [07:50:00] - The Essence of Movement Practice [00:21:00] - Challenges and Transformations Through Movement [00:53:10] - The Role of Community and Teaching in Movement [01:07:05] - Integrating Philosophy and Movement [01:25:28] - Future Directions for Movement Culture

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Wisdom in the Age of AI: A Philosophical Quest with Vervaeke, Pageau, and Schindler

2/21/2024
Explore the complex relationship between AI and human insight in this thought-provoking episode with John Vervaeke, Ken Lowry, Jonathan Pageau, and DC Schindler. While deeply engaging with the scientific and philosophical aspects of artificial intelligence, the panel discusses its broad implications for our understanding of consciousness, culture, and rational thought. Key points include AI's challenge to our self-perception, its potential to reshape societal norms, and the critical examination of whether AI can approach human-like wisdom and ethical reasoning. The dialogue invites listeners to contemplate AI's role in redefining human rationality, wisdom, and the foundational structures of our societies. Ken Lowry is a dedicated explorer of the good, true, and beautiful through his channel Climbing Mt Sophia, focusing on wisdom and virtue dialogues. His work fosters key collaborations, enhancing discussions on spirituality and philosophy. Jonathan Pageau, a French Canadian icon carver and speaker, examines symbolic patterns to reconnect modern life with traditional arts, advocating for the re-enchantment of our contemporary world through ancient wisdom. DC Schindler, a philosopher and professor, delves into metaphysics, ethics, and cultural philosophy, examining classical philosophy's impact on modern challenges, including AI, and its influence on culture and understanding. John Vervaeke: Website: https://johnvervaeke.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke X: https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn/ Ken Lowry: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@climbingmt.sophia Substack: https://kenlowry.substack.com/ Jonathan Pageau: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/jonathanpageau DC Schindler: Website: https://www.johnpaulii.edu/academics/faculty/d-c-schindler/ Join our new Patreon https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke The Vervaeke Foundation - https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Awaken to Meaning - https://awakentomeaning.com/ Books, Articles, Publications, and Videos AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist - John Vervaeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-_RdKiDbz4&list=PLND1JCRq8Vui2YOOfrxbeRwJk5jZPmAth&index=1 Mentoring the Machines: Orientation - Part One: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne https://www.amazon.com/Mentoring-Machines-Orientation-Artificially-Intelligent-ebook/dp/B0CBXKL7P1 Mentoring the Machines: Origins - Part 2: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CH8W8XLF Divination and Human Nature: A Cognitive History of Intuition in Classical Antiquity - Peter Struck https://www.amazon.com/Divination-Human-Nature-Cognitive-Intuition/dp/0691183457/ Quotes "I do not honestly see how it is possible for humans to make something that is not derivative of themselves... the idea that these things could not be either ways to increase certain people's power or parasites on our own consciousness seems to me not conceivable." - Jonathan Pageau [00:24:22] "One of the problems that I'm seeing is that a lot of this is motivated by economic, by greed, by the capacity to be economically superior to other companies... what is actually driving AI is something like mammon." - Jonathan Pageau [00:21:39] "I wonder whether it's possible to be intelligent without first being alive. There's something about the nature of a living thing that allows intelligence to emerge. Intelligence is a way of being before it's a way of acting and is analogous to what it means to be alive rather than just carry out functions that look like life." - DC Schindler [00:42:59] Chapters [00:00:00] - Opening Remarks: AI's Scope and Impact [00:03:00] - Defining AI:...

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Integrating Science and Contemplative Practice | Philosophy of Meditation #7 with Mark Miller

2/16/2024
In this episode of Voices with Vervaeke, philosopher and cognitive scientist Mark Miller joins John Vervaeke and Rick Repetti for a fascinating discussion on the connections between philosophy, science, and contemplative practice. Mark provides insight into his work as a 'synthetic philosopher', integrating diverse fields like neuroscience and Buddhism to create theoretical frameworks for understanding the mind and contemplation. The conversation explores whether there can or should be a 'philosophy of meditation', and how science and philosophy might contribute to human flourishing and contemplative development. Mark shares rich examples of how computational models and cognitive science can elucidate contemplative skills and states, providing nuance to traditional teachings. He emphasizes the importance of balance between insight practices and compassion cultivation on the contemplative path. Mark Miller, a philosopher and cognitive scientist, holds a senior research fellowship at Monash University's Center for Consciousness and Contemplative Studies in Australia, with affiliations at the University of Toronto and Hokkaido University in Japan. His work, which delves into the interplay between human thought, technology's impact on well-being, and human-computer interaction, is at the forefront of integrating cognitive neuroscience with philosophical inquiry. Glossary of Terms Predictive Processing: A cognitive science theory that suggests the brain continuously makes predictions about the environment based on past experiences. Synthetic Philosophy: An interdisciplinary approach that integrates insights from various fields to develop comprehensive frameworks for understanding complex phenomena. Contemplative Science: A field of study that investigates the effects of meditation and contemplative practices on the mind and well-being. John Vervaeke: Website: https://johnvervaeke.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke X: https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn/ Rick Repetti: Website: https://www.rickrepetti.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rickrepetti/ X: https://twitter.com/rickrepetti Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/philosophicalpractitioner/ Mark Miller: The Contemplative Science Podcast: https://www.thecontemplativescientists.com/ Website: https://www.markdmiller.live/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaYjSup-Hp3V9P6MGt2zPuA X: https://twitter.com/predictivelife Join our new Patreon https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke The Vervaeke Foundation - https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Awaken to Meaning - https://awakentomeaning.com/ Books, Articles, and Publications Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti https://www.amazon.com/Routledge-Handbook-Philosophy-Meditation-Repetti/dp/036764746X Why I Am Not a Buddhist - Evan Thompson https://www.amazon.com/Why-I-Am-Not-Buddhist/dp/0300264674 Quotes “Meditation is philosophy. It's not about relaxing, and it's certainly not about just creating weird psychedelic states so that we can blow our minds and talk about it. Meditation is a way of knowing ourselves, knowing our situation, and then flourishing through that special knowing.” - Mark Miller [00:16:42] "Don't under appreciate the value of love for your training. If you're listening to this, and you're contemplative, and you're tuning in now to help your practice, don't overlook it. It's valuable at the beginning, in the middle, in the end - like even a small amount of loving kindness and kindness practice now is going to make all the difference." - Mark Miller [00:56:00] Chapters [00:00:00] Introduction [00:06:00] - Mark Miller's Journey in Contemplative Science [00:14:00] - Meditation's Role in Philosophy and Contemplation [00:17:00] - Synthetic Philosophy and Contemplative Science [00:23:00] - Bridging Science, Philosophy...

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Exploring the Depths of Internal Family Systems with Seth Allison

2/14/2024
In this episode of "Voices with Vervaeke," John Vervaeke and guest Seth Allison offer an insightful exploration into the depths of psychotherapy, focusing on internal family systems (IFS) and its connections with Jungian psychology and attachment theory. John and Seth delve into the theoretical and practical realms of IFS, as founded by Dick Schwartz, highlighting its transformative potential in clinical practice. The conversation traverses the historical development of psychological theories, the intricacies of the human psyche, and the therapeutic efficacy of blending IFS with emotional therapy (EFT). By weaving together theory and practice, Seth and John illuminate the path towards healing and wholeness. Seth Allison is a renowned psychotherapist specializing in internal family systems (IFS) and its integration with traditional psychotherapy. With years of clinical practice, Seth brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the conversation, offering valuable insights into the therapeutic journey. Glossary of Terms Internal Family Systems (IFS): A psychotherapy model that emphasizes the multiplicity of the mind, suggesting that the psyche is made up of subpersonalities or parts. Jungian Analysis: A psychotherapeutic approach based on the theories of Carl Jung, focusing on the integration of the conscious and unconscious aspects of the psyche. John Vervaeke: Website: https://johnvervaeke.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke X: https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn/ Seth Allison: Website: Grow Collective - https://www.growcollective.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seth-allison-13abb811b/ Join our new Patreon https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke The Vervaeke Foundation - https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Awaken to Meaning - https://awakentomeaning.com/ John Vervaeke YouTube After Socrates: Episode 8 - The Socratic Shift | Dr. John Vervaeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AALyoLXE0AQ Books, Articles, and Publications No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model - Richard Schwartz https://www.amazon.com/No-Bad-Parts-Restoring-Wholeness/dp/1683646681 Many Minds, One Self: Evidence for a Radical Shift in Paradigm - Richard C. Schwartz, Robert R. Falconer https://www.amazon.com/Many-Minds-One-Self-Evidence/dp/0692957340/ The Theradelic Approach: Psychedelic Therapy. Perspective, Preparation, and Practice - Sunny Strasburg, Richard Schwartz https://www.amazon.com/Theradelic-Approach-Psychedelic-Perspective-Preparation/dp/B0C7JJB5WY In Midlife: A Jungian Perspective - Murray Stein https://www.amazon.com/Midlife-Jungian-Perspective-Murray-Stein/dp/1630510890/ Jung's Map of the Soul: An Introduction - Murray Stein https://www.amazon.com/Jungs-Map-Soul-Murray-Stein/dp/0812693760/ A Spirit of Trust: A Reading of Hegel’s Phenomenology - Robert B. Brandom https://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Trust-Reading-Hegels-Phenomenology/dp/0674976819/ Quotes "The pursuit of wisdom and virtue from an attachment perspective could be framed as the pursuit of trust, learning of trust. It is a dangerous thing to trust, yet we can't really get to the next level without some risk. The connections we make externally and internally really are the key forward, the door to walk through." - Seth Allison [01:21:08] Chapters [00:00:00] - Introduction to Seth Allison and Recap of Previous Discussions [00:05:00] - Exploring Internal Family Systems (IFS) [00:20:00] - Jungian Analysis and Its Intersection with IFS [00:35:00] - Practical Applications of IFS in Therapy [00:50:00] - The Interplay of Technique, Attachment, and Transformation in Psychotherapy [01:05:00] - Navigating the Liminal Spaces of the Psyche with Hermes [01:16:00] - Conclusion and Plans for Future Conversations

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Ancient Wisdom, Modern Insights | Philosophy of Meditation #6 with Massimo Pigliucci

2/9/2024
In Episode 6 of the "Philosophy of Meditation" series, John Vervaeke and Rick Repetti discuss with guest Massimo Pigliucci how stoicism and meditation intertwine. Massimo, an acclaimed philosopher, delves into his transition from evolutionary biology to philosophy and Stoicism. The conversation covers key aspects of Stoicism, including the practice of mindfulness, attention (prosoche), and the Stoic approach to life's challenges. They discuss the parallels and differences between Stoic practices and Buddhist meditation, emphasizing the importance of rationality and judgment in Stoicism. The episode also touches on mindfulness in modern contexts, comparing it to classical practices, and concludes with Massimo sharing his personal Stoic meditative practices and reflections on life and death. Massimo Pigliucci is a distinguished philosopher and author renowned for his work in the philosophy of science and his advocacy for Stoicism as a practical philosophy for modern life. He is a key figure in the modern revival of Stoicism, contributing significantly through his writings, talks, and as a certified philosophical counselor. Glossary of Terms Stoicism: An ancient Greek philosophy that emphasizes rationality, virtue, and resilience. Mindfulness: The practice of maintaining a nonjudgmental state of heightened awareness of one's thoughts, emotions, or experiences. Prosoche: A Stoic term for attentive mindfulness, focusing on rational judgment and action. John Vervaeke: Website: https://johnvervaeke.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke X: https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn/ Rick Repetti: Website: https://www.rickrepetti.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rickrepetti/ X: https://twitter.com/rickrepetti Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/philosophicalpractitioner/ Massimo Pigliucci: Substack: https://figsinwinter.substack.com/ Join our new Patreon https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke The Vervaeke Foundation - https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Awaken to Meaning - https://awakentomeaning.com/ Books, Articles, and Publications Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti https://www.amazon.com/Routledge-Handbook-Philosophy-Meditation-Repetti/dp/036764746X A Handbook for New Stoics: How to Thrive in a World Out of Your Control―52 Week-by-Week Lessons - Gregory Lopez, Massimo Pigliucci https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-New-Stoics-Week-Week/dp/1615195335/ Quotes "But meditating in Stoicism is a kind of activity that is very much philosophical in nature... But it's most certainly is a type of philosophizing." - Massimo Pigliucci [00:11:11] "This is a place where it's converging with sort of cutting edge CogSci, which is the importance of attention to being reasonable that the training of attention is as important as the training of argumentation." - John Vervaeke [00:20:40] "What can I do better the next time? Again, the idea being your mind needs to be prepared. If you're prepared, you're going to react better the next time around." - Massimo Pigliucci [00:53:15] Chapters [00:00:00] - Introduction to the Episode by John Vervaeke [00:01:21] - Massimo Pigliucci's Background and Journey to Stoicism [00:04:44] - Pigliucci’s Current Work and Philosophical Interests [00:08:03] - Discussing the Philosophy of Meditation [00:14:47] - Exploration of Stoic Principles: Physics, Logic, and Ethics [00:17:00] - Massimo Pigliucci Discusses the Broader Understanding of Ethics in Stoicism [00:24:40] - Stoic Perspectives on Choice, Good and Evil, and Social Relationships [00:31:09] - Comparing and Contrasting Buddhism and Stoicism [00:43:30] - Massimo's Personal Stoic Meditative Practices [00:53:15] - Massimo Pigliucci's Closing Thoughts on Practical Philosophy

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