The Turndown: The Podcast for Hoteliers

Jennifer Barnwell is an advocate for independent hotels. As President of Curator Hotel & Resort Collection, she offers independents the opportunity to harness the power of scale and access cost savings through vendor negotiations, ultimately helping them stay independent and be more profitable. She discusses the challenges and opportunities for independents in terms of funding, brand awareness, and loyalty programs, as well as which key technology investments to prioritize.

With hospitality students graduating with skills that can be applied to other industries with better salaries and work-life balance, how will the industry retain its top-tier talent? As Dean of Hotel Institute Montreux and Assistant Dean of Swiss Hotel Management School, Claire Jollain has direct contact with future hospitality professionals and shares her perspective on how the industry needs to adapt to appeal to the upcoming generation of leaders. Additional resources on this topic: A 2024 guide to hotel automationWhat is a hotel chatbot? 9 benefits and key features to look for

When was the last time you spent the night camping? As Global Director of Partnerships at Hipcamp with over 15 years of experience in the outdoor hospitality and tech industry, Kristen Vasan is dedicated to getting travelers to experience nature as a way of promoting environmental stewardship. She shares her transition from working in New York City to spending half the year sleeping in a tent and her thoughts on the transformative power of nature in sparking collective humanity. Additional resources on this topic: 6 ways to make your hotel more sustainable10 types of hotel guests who might walk through your door

As someone who joined the hospitality industry right after high school, lecturer Julia Krebs has deep passion, understanding, and experience in the field that she draws from to connect with students at Les Roches International School of Hotel Management. She emphasizes the importance of inspiring young adults to choose a career in hospitality and discusses the need to balance technology in hospitality education with the human touch. Additional resources on this topic: Infinitely scalable: Build your ideal hotel tech stack with a modern platformA guide to hotel operations: Strategies, trends, and technology

The vacation rental industry has become highly lucrative – and competitive – in recent years. As Global Head of Connectivity Account Management at Vrbo, Gavin Gray has a wealth of insights to share about the vacation rental industry, including top trends, hot destinations, and essential technology tools needed to gain a competitive edge. He highlights the differences between hotels and vacation rentals, as well as the increasing similarities in the experiences they offer. Additional resources on this topic: 23 Airbnb competitors and alternative booking sitesHow to choose a revenue management system (+18 top RMS solutions)

During his long career in hospitality education, Dr. Stowe Shoemaker (Ph.D. Cornell University) has witnessed the hospitality curriculum evolve into a business-focused teaching. But should hospitality be all business? He discusses the challenges of educating and attracting a new generation to the hospitality industry and explores the value of applying hospitality principles in other industries, especially healthcare. Additional Resources on this topic: Exclusive interview: How to empower hospitality’s future leaders with modern tech skills and innovation6 trends shaping the travel landscape

Running a resort & spa in the middle of remote Utah has proven to be one of life’s greatest adventures for Dallin Tait. After spending the better part of his career running an excursion company, Dallin also took on the role of General Manager at his family-owned hotel in Bluff, Utah – a sanctuary for outdoor enthusiasts. He shares his success journey, from starting a destination hotel business and building a strong team to navigating challenges and scaling for growth. Additional resources on this topic: From idea to execution: 10 sections to include in your hotel business planStarting a lodging business: The complete technology guide

Jacqueline Nunley has been at the forefront of revolutionizing travel industry technology for over two decades. As the Industry Advisor for Travel & Hospitality at Salesforce, she has dedicated her career to guiding companies to transform with innovative solutions. She shares her perspective on the importance of discovering and adopting new tools, the impact technology has on hospitality job roles, and the future of travel – including potential disruptions that may occur. Additional resources on this topic: 14 hotel technology trends that every hotelier needs to knowPMS Technology: The evolution and future of the hospitality platform

From business setbacks to viral TikToks, Bianda Brasdorp has experienced a full spectrum of challenges and triumphs on her journey to becoming the successful owner of multiple female-only hostels in Europe. She shares her experience and recommendations for aspiring hostel owners, including coming up with a unique concept, making the most of social media marketing, and maintaining a positive mindset when facing obstacles and criticism. Additional resources on this topic: TikTok for hotels: 9 best practices & examples to get you started8 ways hostel marketing should differ from hotel marketing

Love them or hate them, social media influencers are on the rise. As the co-founder of Anorak Travel, an influencer company focused on the tourism industry, Anne-Julie Karcher has made a career of strategically matching hoteliers with influencers who can help them reach their marketing goals. She provides insights into the costs and budgeting of influencer marketing and how to choose influencers who match your target audience. Additional resources on this topic: 8 hotel marketing trends & how properties can prepareInstagram for hotels: what to post, features to use, and examples to inspire

In our inaugural season of The Turndown podcast, host Sebastien Leitner has led conversations with hospitality leaders from all corners of the industry. Now, we’re turning the tables and putting Sebastien in the guest seat to get to know more about his illustrious hospitality career that spans hotel management, travel distribution, technology partnerships, and beyond. Get to know more about his passion and future vision for the industry, plus the other career path he almost followed instead. Additional resources on this topic: State of Independent Lodging ReportCloudTalks: Strengthening Your Distribution Strategy with the Right Channel Mix

What’s the difference between Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning? Jason Pinto, Co-founder and COO at Pace Revenue, can not only answer that question in a way that’s easy to understand, he can also explain how these tools are impacting revenue management in the hotel industry. He shares how AI-and-ML-backed technology is bringing hotel revenue managers greater results, more informed decision-making, and even better storytelling. Additional resources on this topic: The ultimate guide to hotel revenue managementWhat is a hotel compset and why is it important for pricing?

Richard Brosal is a hotelier who operates without “bricks or mortars.” As Co-Founder & Owner of Jet Luxury Resorts, a niche hospitality company in the condo hotel space in Las Vegas, Richard has the unique challenge of not only keeping guests happy but also satisfying the owners and investors of the properties he runs. He shares how rising inflation, costs, and guest expectations have presented hurdles in running a hospitality business in today’s post-pandemic world – plus details about his surprising and impressive morning routine. Additional resources on this topic: How to meet – and exceed – guest expectationsManaging hotel guest communications for the modern traveler

Having worked as a housekeeper in the past, Luka Berger, Founder & CEO of Flexkeeping, is passionate about bringing technology to properties that are still managing housekeeping using pen and paper. With some hotels either canceling, upselling, or charging for housekeeping, Luka also discusses solutions for forecasting staffing needs, plus the difference between implementing green initiatives vs greenwashing in housekeeping. Additional resources on this topic: Housekeeping training manual and SOPHousekeeping Checklist

When we hear the word “sustainability,” we often think of green initiatives and the environment. Julie Cheetham, Founding Member & Managing Director of Weeva, a digital system for managing sustainability in tourism, helps hoteliers take a more holistic approach to sustainability, encompassing not only conservation, but also commerce, community, and culture. Julie discusses measuring your property's full sustainability impact, plus how to make positive choices as a traveler when it comes to choosing destinations and excursions. Additional resources on this topic: The top green certifications for your eco hotel (global & regional)11 hotel eCommerce strategies for selling more rooms online

Asa Firestone started his career as a National Geographic grant-sponsored mountain climber and now runs a private, family-owned property that caters to adventure enthusiasts. From hair-pulling maintenance issues to starting a campervan and beer garden side venture right before the pandemic, Asa shares how he tackles the challenges of running bootstrapping businesses head-on – plus how he maintains a loyal staff to help shoulder the load. Additional resources on this topic: 5 ways RV parks and campgrounds can boost bookings with softwareHow hotel operating costs affect the bottom line

Would you leave home without your wallet? James Lemon does. As Global Lead of Travel, Transport, & Leisure at Stripe, James relies on his digital wallet for making payments and works to connect the hospitality industry with the latest innovation in payments. What does a future of frictionless, invisible payments while traveling look like, and what challenges stand in the way of that? James explains, as well as shares funny stories of when he has gotten caught without cash on hand. Additional resources on the topic: 3 ways to provide a better payment experience for your guestsHotel payment processing with Cloudbeds

As Vice President of Distribution at MGM Resorts, Sarah Fults is a hardcore hotelier who is known as a tough boss when it comes to managing partners. But when it comes to her team of 34, Sarah is a “mama bear” who knows all the kids’ and pets’ names. How does she keep that balance and manage to lead a loyal team even as many others in the industry are struggling with staffing issues? Sarah shares her experience, tips, and her ambition to design the perfect toiletry bag. Additional resources on this topic: Facing a labor shortage at your property? Here’s how technology can helpWhat is a GDS & how can it help increase occupancy?

When Giancarlo Carniani, General Manager of ToFlorence Hotels and President and Founder of the Hospitality Innovation Academy noticed that his hotel’s room rates were always selling at their peak, he had an idea – what if he stopped limiting the revenue management system and set the rates free? Hear about his experience removing the ceiling from his rate restrictions as well as how he handles recruitment, labor shortage, and what it was like to be on the frontlines of the Covid-19 pandemic as a hotelier. Additional resources on this topic: What is yield management? +9 strategies to boost your revenueRevenue per Available Room (RevPAR) Calculator