It Gets Late Early

You may have seen companies like Pinterest and Amazon cutting thousands of jobs in the name of "AI transformation." But here's the catch: these layoffs are a calculated reset, not a technological revolution. It’s all about greed disguised as progress. In this episode, I dive into the AI-driven layoffs that are sweeping across the job market and how these "innovations" are actually part of a much bigger strategy. I break down how these tech giants are using AI as cover to slash salaries, eliminate experienced workers, and reset the market for a younger, cheaper workforce. We’re not talking about companies simply streamlining their operations. This is a systemic dismantling of worker leverage and a rollback of the progress workers made during the pandemic. You’ll hear about the cold, hard truth behind these so-called "AI efficiencies" and why, as much as companies push the narrative, the truth is that AI is far from delivering the results they claim. AI is not necessarily replacing jobs, but it’s being used to cut costs while executives rake in record pay. This episode addresses what’s really happening with AI layoffs, what it means for your future job security, and how we can collectively push back. In This Episode: -AI-driven efficiency and its consequences on workers -How AI narratives mask deeper corporate greed -Why this is a systemic issue and not just a tech problem -The new reality for those who were laid off -Steps to push back against AI-driven layoffs and reset salary expectations -A story to illustrate what's happening And much more! Resources: -Get Corporate-level Health Coverage for Solopreneurs with a 50% Discount for 1st Three Months - https://essentlcreator.com/maureen -MIT study shatters AI hype: 95% of generative AI projects are failing, sparking tech bubble jitters - https://www.forbes.com/sites/cindyrodriguezconstable/2026/02/27/most-ai-investments-are-failing-the--problem-isnt-the-technology/ -New Workday Research: Companies Are Leaving AI Gains on the Table - https://investor.workday.com/news-and-events/press-releases/news-details/2026/New-Workday-Research-Companies-Are-Leaving-AI-Gains-on-the-Table/ -Predictions 2026: The Workforce Muddles Through Ambient Disruption - https://www.forrester.com/blogs/future-of-work-predictions-2026-whats-coming-for-work-and-the-workforce/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram: @maureenwclough - https://www.instagram.com/maureenwclough -YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1 Affiliate Disclaimer: Hey there! Just a quick heads-up — some of the links we share in our show notes, YouTube videos, or episodes might be affiliate links. That means if you click on one and make a purchase, we might earn a small commission (at no extra cost to you). We only shout out products, tools, or services we’ve actually tried, love, or think you’ll find genuinely useful. Still, it’s always a good idea to do your own homework before buying anything. Using these links helps support the show and keeps It Gets Late Early rolling — so thanks a ton for being part of the community!

"It's too late for me." I had this worry, but I finally hit publish on my first podcast episode at 40. I thought I'd missed the boat. Everyone else had already started, and I wondered if I was too old to become a creator in an industry that thinks you expire at 35. I was terrified to try something new in public. But here's what I've learned: that "too late" feeling? It's just plain old straight-up fear wearing a really convincing disguise. I feel so strongly about debunking this myth that today, in this special episode, I get the chance to flip the mic and be interviewed by Rhona Barnett-Pierce on her podcast, Workfluencer. We're getting into all the messy, uncomfortable stuff about starting something new when you feel like you've missed your window. We talk about: → The year I spent overthinking instead of doing (and why that was such a waste) → How to actually start when you don't feel ready (because you never will) → Why your age might actually be the thing that makes you better at this → What to do when people think you're cringe (spoiler: you gotta lean in) → Where to find support when your friends and family don't get it → The real timeline from "I'm terrified" to "okay, I'm doing this" This conversation is for you if: → You've been thinking about starting something but keep finding reasons to wait → You're staring down a layoff or career pivot and don't know what's next → You want to build something of your own but feel like you've missed your chance → You're tired of the voice in your head saying "not ready yet" → You need someone to tell you it's okay to be scared and do it anyway Look, I'm not going to tell you it's easy. Starting something new at 40—especially something visible like starting a new business or jumping into content creation—is uncomfortable as hell. But the alternative is spending the rest of your life wondering "what if?" And I really, really don’t want that for you. At the end of the day, “everyone's cringe until they make it. Then people pretend they supported you all along." (Thanks to my 28-year-old social media consultant for that gem.) I hope this conversation gives you permission to just start. Scared, unprepared, "too old," whatever. Just start. Let’s make 2026 the year you go for it, whatever your “it” might be. The world needs you! Speaking of 2026, we’ll be taking a holiday break til then. Happy Holidays to you and yours! Resources: -Get Corporate-level Health Coverage for Solopreneurs with a 50% Discount for 1st Three Months - https://essentlcreator.com/maureen Connect with Rhona Barnett-Pierce: -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhonabarnettpierce/ -Website: https://www.workfluencerpodcast.com/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram:

Tech isn’t just in a downturn. It’s in the midst of a full-blown identity crisis. As layoffs, ageism, and AI reshape the workforce overnight, Brian Pulliam joins me to break down what’s actually happening behind the scenes… and what mid-career professionals must do to stay competitive. Brian, a former tech leader who spent 23 years at companies like Microsoft, Zillow, and Coinbase, joins me to talk about a controversial topic. With tech experiencing year-after-year meltdowns, Brian offers a brutally honest look at whether anyone should still pursue a tech career in 2025–2026. He breaks down why the job market feels broken, why entry-level roles are disappearing, and how AI is replacing the very apprentice-level opportunities that used to grow workers into senior talent. He also explains why employers are pulling back on long-term investment, what the real supply-and-demand curve looks like, and why ageism is hitting harder and earlier than ever. We discuss strategies for standing out in an oversaturated market, how to approach salary discussions, and the mindset shifts every experienced employee needs to remain competitive in a chaotic and unpredictable hiring landscape. If you're feeling overwhelmed by tech layoffs, frustrated by age bias, or unsure how to pivot in today’s wild job market, this episode gives you clarity, direction, and a whole lot of real talk. Do you want Brian to help you navigate the tech job market or level up your career? Mention you heard him on It Gets Late Early and get 20% off any coaching package when you book through his site or connect via LinkedIn. In This Episode: -Should anyone go into tech in 2025–2026? -Brian's early work experience and tech background -Standing out in a saturated market -How oversupply affects both young and older workers -Navigating the salary question -Should you apply to a big company or a small one? -How Brian coaches people over 40 And much more! Resources: -Get Business Protection and Health Coverage at Solopreneur-friendly Prices - https://essentlcreator.com/maureen -Free Guide to LinkedIn Job Hunting for the 40+ Crew -https://www.itgetslateearly.com/job-guide Connect with Brian Pulliam: -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briankpulliam/ -Website: https://refactorcoaching.com/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram: @itgetslateearly -

With mass layoffs hitting tech, media, and corporate America, more professionals over 40 are being forced into freelance work, consulting, and solopreneur life—whether they planned for it or not. And here's a big problem with that: the moment you leave corporate, you lose access to affordable health insurance. Suddenly, you're staring down $4,000/month premiums, sky-high deductibles, and hospital bills that make you wonder what you're even paying for. In today's episode, I sit down with Crystal Jackson—also known as The Real Mrs. Poindexter—a former Intel engineer turned viral content creator with millions of followers. After 13 years in corporate, Crystal left to raise her kids, went back to work for the benefits, left again, and eventually found herself paying $48,000 a year for health insurance that barely covered anything. When she got sick and ended up with another $10,000 in medical bills, she'd had enough. So she did what any fed-up engineer would do: she co-founded EssentL Creator with her husband Chris to solve the problem no one else would touch—affordable, corporate-level health insurance for freelancers, gig workers, and solopreneurs. In this episode, we talk about: If you've been laid off, are thinking about going solo, or are tired of paying insane premiums for garbage coverage, this episode is for you. Find a gift of 50% off the admin fee for It Gets Late Early listeners at https://essentlcreator.com/maureen. In This Episode: -Crystal’s journey from Intel to solopreneur -Navigating health insurance as a freelancer -EssentL Creator: a solution for solopreneurs’ health benefits -The rise of layoffs and freelance work -Age diversity in the content creation industry -The future of work and how to reinvent yourself -Healthcare challenges for solopreneurs and creators -How to pivot and embrace the future after leaving your job And much more! Resources: -Get Business Protection and Health Coverage at Solopreneur-friendly Prices - https://essentlcreator.com/maureen -Free Guide to LinkedIn Job Hunting for the 40+ Crew - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/job-guide Connect with Crystal Jackson: -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystal-jackson-mba-8893b72bb/ -Website: https://essentlcreator.com/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough -

Ever wondered why AI thinks you need to look younger? In this episode, Gretchen Andrew, a former Google employee turned artist, exposes the disturbing truth about how beauty filters are literally reshaping our faces—and our self-worth. We kick things off with Gretchen's bold pivot from Silicon Valley to the art world, where she's using robots, oil paint, and yes, glitter to reveal what beauty filters actually do to us. Her groundbreaking "FaceTune Portraits" physically apply AI beauty standards to paintings, creating violent scars and marks that show the hidden damage these "harmless" filters inflict on our identities. Gretchen breaks down the dirty secret of AI training data—how algorithms learn beauty from the most biased corners of the internet and create a feedback loop that makes everyone chase the same impossible standard. Even Miss Universe contestants aren't "good enough" for AI filters, and men in their 50s are rescheduling meetings just to use Zoom's "touch up my appearance" feature! From Hollywood actresses getting the same face-altering procedures to look good on small screens, to the shocking reality that social media may have incentivized us to provide facial recognition data for free, this conversation will change how you see every filter, every app, and every "enhanced" photo you encounter. Whether you're tired of the algorithmic beauty trap or just want to understand why everyone's starting to look the same, this episode is essential listening. Gretchen's insights will make you question everything about digital beauty—and maybe even inspire you to embrace what makes you uniquely human. “The question is: Do you want to look old and like yourself, or do you want to look like everybody else and look younger?” ~ Gretchen Andrew In This Episode: -Leaving Silicon Valley for art -AI vs. beauty standards -The homogenization of beauty -Gretchen's partnership with Andreessen Horowitz -The real story behind AI beauty filters -Ageism in the art and tech world -How Gretchen uses social media for her work And much more! Resources: -Free Guide to LinkedIn Job Hunting for the 40+ Crew - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/job-guide Connect with Gretchen Andrew: -Website: https://www.gretchenandrew.com/ -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-andrew/ -Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gretchenandrew/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/ -YouTube:

What if everything you thought you knew about startup success was wrong? In today’s episode of It Gets Late Early, I’m breaking down the myth that young, hoodie-wearing entrepreneurs are the key to successful startups. Spoiler: the data proves otherwise. According to MIT research, the average age of a high-growth startup founder is 42 — not 21. The top 1% of founders are even older, typically around 45 years old. Yet, venture capitalists continue to invest in young, inexperienced founders, ignoring the seasoned leaders with decades of experience. I also tackle the growing age discrimination in tech, where older workers are pushed out despite having the experience and connections that drive success. Companies that embrace diverse ages and experiences in their teams are the ones that succeed. Let’s flip the script on startup success. It's time to stop assuming that youth equals innovation. It’s never too late to go after your dreams, and age is an asset, not a liability. “So just why is it that older workers tend to be more successful? Two words: life experience.” ~ Maureen Wiley Clough In This Episode: -Research from MIT: the truth about successful startup founders -The age bias in venture capital and tech hiring -Why older founders have an advantage over younger ones -The challenge to venture capitalists: stop funding failure -Encouraging older tech workers: your experience matters And much more! Resources: -Free Guide to LinkedIn Job Hunting for the 40+ Crew - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/job-guide -EEOC Special Report - https://www.eeoc.gov/special-report/high-tech-low-inclusion-diversity-high-tech-workforce-and-sector-2014-2022 -MIT Research on Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship - https://mitsloan.mit.edu/shared/ods/documents?PublicationDocumentID=6212#:~:text=Our%20primary%20finding%20is%20that,growth%20new%20ventures%20is%2045.0. -Ageism in Tech Hiring - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/maureenwclough_tech-ageism-hiring-activity-7369769952683171841-u7zS?utm_source=social_share_send&utm_medium=member_desktop_web&rcm=ACoAAACPAV4BMEaPyyLI0T1Hayp_eLtXH5AO5-4 -iPhone unveiling with Steve Jobs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qPAY9JqE4 -Workplace Age Discrimination Cases Grow Nationwide - https://gbsbenefitsgroup.com/workplace-age-discrimination-cases-grow-nationwide/#:~:text=The%20Equal%20Employment%20Opportunity%20Commission%20(EEOC)%20has,Act%20(ADEA)%20as%20in%20fiscal%20year%202022 -Late-Career Job Losses Are Blurring What Retirement Looks Like in America -

Meetings. Ugh. We’ve all been there, right? And the price tag is bigger than most people realize. We estimate that the cost to organizations of these unproductive meetings is approximately $259 billion in the United States and $64 billion in the United Kingdom for professional staff alone (LSE report). That’s a jaw-dropping drain on productivity—yet it’s largely preventable. In today’s episode of It Gets Late Early, I’m joined by Dr. Daniel Jolles, a behavioral scientist and psychologist at the London School of Economics, who’s back for his second appearance. Dr. Jolles and I go deep into the world of generational diversity in meetings, exploring how getting it right can significantly boost productivity and reduce wasted hours. We’re also tackling the elephant in the room: AI in the workplace. With organizations now mandating the use of AI, how can we, across all generations, navigate this technology without falling victim to bias or further exclusion? We cover the shocking stats about how unproductive meetings cost businesses billions each year and how companies can make sure that no one, especially older workers, gets left behind in the AI race. Trust me, this episode is a wake-up call. If you’re looking to fix your meetings, ensure inclusivity, and stay ahead in the AI-driven future, you don’t want to miss it. “We find that there's a huge lack of generational diversity happening in our meetings. Our research suggests that that's hurting productivity because there are diversity benefits to be gained by having voices from the younger and older employees present in meetings, especially when it comes to big-decision meetings.” ~ Dr. Daniel Jolles In This Episode: -Why employees are not that fond of meetings -The impact of generational diversity on meetings -The cost of unproductive meetings -AI’s potential to revolutionize the workplace -The impact of the proliferation of AI recording tools And much more! Resources: -Free Guide to LinkedIn Job Hunting for the 40+ Crew - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/job-guide -LSE Report: When Generations Meet by Dr. Daniel Jolles and Dr. Grace Lordan - https://www.lse.ac.uk/tii/assets/documents/When-Generations-Meet.pdf Connect with Dr. Daniel Jolles: -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danieljolles/ -Website: https://www.danieljolles.com/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram: @itgetslateearly -

Ever applied, interviewed, and…silence? You’re not alone. In this episode, we crack open the hiring black box: the rise of ghost jobs (roles that never close or never existed in the first place), the avalanche of AI-boosted applications, and why 31% of rejected candidates never even get an email. My guest Ariana Moon, VP of Talent Planning & Acquisition at Greenhouse, a software platform managing the hiring process, explains how their Greenhouse Verified badges reward employers who actually walk the talk—communication, fairness, respect, and preparation—so candidates can spot companies that treat people like people. We also get real about what great hiring actually looks like: structured scorecards, clear rubrics, and leaders who blend experience with fresh perspectives. Ariana shares lessons from a very millennial workforce moment (when ~10% of the company went on parental leave at once!) and how Greenhouse supports parents with thoughtful leave, re-entry, and caregiver communities—without letting careers evaporate. Whether you’re job hunting or leading a team, this episode is a playbook for a fair, respectful, and effective process—because employer brand is a long game, and candidates remember how you made them feel. Update: Since this recording, Ariana has given birth to a healthy baby boy! Both mom and baby are doing great. “Greenhouse Verified is a way that we can signal to the talent market that we are a company that prioritizes things like good communication, being prepared in how we run our interview processes, being fair in how we think about our interview processes, and being respectful when we're interacting with candidates. ” ~ Ariana S. Moon In This Episode: -What are ghost jobs? -Greenhouse Verified initiative -Improving internal processes in the workplace -Experiences with ageism in the workplace -ERGs and supporting parents in the workplace And much more! Resources: -Free Guide to LinkedIn Job Hunting for the 40+ Crew - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/job-guide Connect with Ariana S. Moon: -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariana-s-moon/ -Website: https://www.greenhouse.com/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/ -YouTube: @itgetslateearly -

Marketers love chasing Gen Z. But here’s the trillions-of-dollars blind spot: Gen X and Boomers control nearly 70% of U.S. disposable income and outspend younger generations in nearly every major category — alcohol, beauty, travel, finance, and more. So why are brands still ignoring them? In this episode, I sit down with Brent Rivard, founder and CEO of Geezer Creative, an agency built on a radical idea: the “forgotten generation” isn’t just relevant — they’re the growth engine brands are missing. We unpack how the ad industry’s obsession with youth culture has aged itself out of opportunity, what’s at stake for marketers, and how Gen X and Boomers are reshaping the creative economy. You’ll also hear shocking stats about how the industry treats its veterans, the challenges older professionals face in a rapidly evolving gig economy, and why AI is becoming a make-or-break skill for creative professionals of every generation. Because if brands keep underestimating us, that’s on them. But if we underestimate ourselves? That’s on us. The creative economy is shifting fast — from AI to the rise of the gig economy — and this conversation will give you a fresh (and dare I say slightly rebellious?) perspective on where your experience fits next. “The last thing the world needed was another ad agency, so we opened one. But we didn't just open one–we opened one that has a point of view.” ~ Brent Rivard In This Episode: -Ageism in the advertising industry -Why Gen X consumers are crucial for marketing success -Geezer Creative’s approach to Gen X-centered marketing -The advantage of intergenerational marketing teams -Adapting to the gig economy in the creative space -Shifting client priorities and how agencies can adapt -AI and its impact on the creative industry -Encouraging older professionals to embrace new opportunities -Creative solutions for dealing with layoffs and market shifts And much more! Resources: -Free Guide to LinkedIn Job Hunting for the 40+ Crew - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/job-guide -The Gen X Career Meltdown - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/28/style/gen-x-creative-work.html Connect with Brent Rivard and Geezer Creative: -Brent Rivard LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-rivard-7ba8b37/ -Geezer Creative LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/geezer-creative/ -Website: https://www.geezercreative.com/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram:

Why is it terrifying to present to just four people? According to Will Greenblatt, it's because our brains still think the tribe might "club us over the head" if they don't like what we say. Will's journey from Canadian child actor (yes, a self-proclaimed "nepo baby") to sought-after corporate speaking coach is anything but typical. After working with Anne Bancroft as a kid and nearly getting swept up in the Hollywood machine, a family tragedy and toxic theater school experience led him to completely reinvent himself. But here's what makes this episode essential listening: Will discovered that the same skills that make great actors also create breakthrough leaders. The difference? It's not about performing—it's about finding emotional truth and connecting authentically with your audience. The game-changing insight: When Will's clients embrace just 10% more vulnerability in meetings, they see measurable career improvements—better performance reviews, more influence, and stronger professional relationships. Because while everyone else is playing it safe, that small dose of authenticity makes you unforgettable. We dive deep into why mentorship is broken in today's workplace, how to spot genuine people in interviews, and Will's three-act framework for storytelling that builds instant trust. Plus, he shares the uncomfortable truth about why taking career risks, like leaving acting or corporate, might be the safest move you can make. “You give somebody the opportunity to destroy you, and you hope that they won't, and they might. But you can't love without that risk. And it's the same kind of thing when you tell your boss what you really think.” ~ Will Greenblatt In This Episode: -The real difference between performing and authentic communication -Why our fear of public speaking is literally prehistoric -The 10% vulnerability rule that transforms careers -How to build trust through authentic storytelling -Will's childhood-to-adult-choice framework for connection -Why the "speaker-writer-coach-creator" career is the future -How to network without being transactional And much more! Resources: -Free Guide to LinkedIn Job Hunting for the 40+ Crew - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/job-guide -Supercharge Your Speaking Skills by Will Greenblatt - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2esQpzqZUUYD8Nxp9lKe05K1aYMpsNwU Connect with Will Greenblatt: -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willgreenblatt/ -Website: https://www.skool.com/speakingheroes/about Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram:

Losing a job is never easy, but what if it led to a more fulfilling path? Daniel Incandela, former CMO, opens up about the painful yet transformative experience of being fired in his 50s. In this episode, he shares the emotional toll it took, how he navigated the challenges, and the powerful lessons he learned along the way. Today, I sit down with my good friend, Daniel Incandela, who, like many of us, faced the harsh reality of burnout and being let go. His story is one of resilience and transformation. Despite the painful blow of being fired, Daniel reflects on how the experience helped him realign his priorities, focusing on family, health, and ultimately, finding his path forward through consulting and creative work. We discuss the importance of reflection and accountability, even in the most challenging moments. Daniel’s journey sheds light on how career paths don’t always go as planned, and how the pressure to “do it all” can weigh heavily on us. From navigating ageism in a competitive job market to embracing AI as a necessary tool for today’s workforce, Daniel discusses how he’s finding purpose in his new role and working towards a future that aligns more with his values. If you’ve ever felt like your career took an unexpected turn, this episode is for you. Daniel’s story is a powerful reminder that we can find clarity even in moments of doubt. “I've been on this journey that I think I really needed in life, and it has helped me awaken from things I did not see.” ~ Daniel Incandela In This Episode: -Daniel’s transition from CMO to consultant -Embracing change and realizing what really matters -Leadership in the time of AI -The reality of getting fired in your 50s -Experiencing the immense benefits of slowing down -Looking ahead: Future of work in the gig economy -Why learning how to use AI is no longer optional And much more! Resources: -Free Guide to LinkedIn Job Hunting for the 40+ Crew - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/job-guide -The Gen X Career Meltdown - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/28/style/gen-x-creative-work.html Connect with Daniel Incandela: -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielincandela/ -Substack:https://substack.com/@danielincandela -Newsletter by Daniel Incandela - https://danielincandela.substack.com/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/ -YouTube:...

Let’s face it, whether you're looking for a new job, trying to stand out in your current role, or considering a career pivot, building a personality brand is a real game-changer (you read that right. A personality brand, not a personal one). In today’s landscape, you need more than just experience; you need a personality that resonates. In this episode, Danielle Hughes, Chief Personality Officer at More Than Words Marketing, joins me to chat about why creating a personality brand isn’t just about ‘selling’ yourself. Danielle shares tips on how to confidently showcase your authentic self in your professional persona, particularly on platforms like LinkedIn. She emphasizes the importance of not just telling your story but showing it through real examples and personal achievements. Whether you're pivoting careers or leveling up in your current role, branding is more important than ever. Tune in to hear how you can use your personality to stand out in the competitive job market and connect authentically with others. And just in case you're interested in working from beautiful homes all over the world, Danielle shares how she makes it happen. “Why is it a personality brand and not personal? Personal means private, so I never understand why we tell people to have a personal brand. Personality is who we are, and that's how we foster connection...with other people.” ~ Danielle Hughes In This Episode: -Danielle's elevator pitch -Why personality branding is crucial in today’s world -How to connect your career story with your brand -Developing your personality brand on LinkedIn -Advice for people contemplating a career shift or facing layoffs -The need for an optimized LinkedIn profile -How to differentiate yourself in an oversaturated job market -An interesting story about Danielle -Danielle's approach to helping clients craft their personality brand -Final thoughts on using personality branding to stand out And much more! Resources: -Free Guide to LinkedIn Job Hunting for the 40+ Crew - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/job-guide -Swap Homes and Unlock the World - https://www.homeexchange.com/ Connect with Danielle Hughes: -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellehughes/ -Website: https://www.morethanwordscopy.com/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/ -YouTube:

Is AI living up to the hype, or is it just another overblown bubble that’s gonna pop? In this episode, Stephen Klein, a 66-year-old AI founder who is challenging the status quo in the world of artificial intelligence, joins me to expose what he believes is the truth about AI, from inflated promises to the real potential it holds for augmenting human intelligence. Trust me, this is what you won’t be hearing in the headlines about AI. We jump into the much-hyped world of AI, and Stephen shares his no-holds-barred views on what’s happening (and why speaking out is making him enemies in Silicon Valley). We discuss how many companies are rushing to market with products that aren’t actually as groundbreaking as they claim, and how the industry itself often misleads us about AI’s capabilities for their own benefit, leading with scary headlines about how all of us are being laid off because of AI. Stephen doesn’t just talk about AI; he’s actively shaping its future. But he’s not just creating another automation tool. He’s building AI that truly augments human intelligence, and that’s where it gets interesting. Stephen’s company, Curiouser.AI, is different. It focuses on creating AI that enhances our creativity and critical thinking, things that the industry is currently sidelining in favor of quick fixes and efficiency. He challenges the corporate culture surrounding AI and explains how the industry needs to move away from pure automation and toward true collaboration between humans and machines. We also jump into the wild world of LinkedIn, where Stephen’s satirical posts challenge the hype surrounding AI and expose the industry’s biggest players. If you’ve been confused about what this AI thing is all about or what to do, swept up in the AI frenzy or have doubts about where the industry is headed, this conversation will give you some powerful insights into what’s really going on behind the scenes that you’re unlikely to find in the typical media coverage. If you want to hear more from Stephen, check out his LinkedIn for more satirical insights and join the conversation on the future of AI! “I think that artificial intelligence is the single greatest innovation–invention–in the history of humanity, and I couldn't be more optimistic about where it's going.” ~ Stephen Klein In This Episode: -An AI founder at 66 -Creating AI that augments human intelligence -The misconceptions around ageism in tech -The impact of curiosity-driven AI on human creativity -Why people should be careful when using AI -AI's role in the future of work -How to deal with fear -The future of AI in business and ethics -The power of LinkedIn as a platform for your cause And much more! Resources: -Free Guide to LinkedIn Job Hunting for the 40+ Crew - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/job-guide Connect with Stephen Klein: -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenbklein/ -Website: https://curiouser.ai/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website:

Have you ever felt trapped in a system that’s supposed to empower you but instead chips away at your well-being? In today’s episode, I’m sitting down with Kelly Stonelake, a former Meta executive who’s blowing the whistle on what’s happening behind the scenes at one of the world’s most powerful tech giants. From battling toxic corporate culture to confronting racial issues in virtual spaces, Kelly’s story isn’t just about one woman standing up - it’s about exposing the systemic issues that hold women back in the corporate workplace and getting all of us to fight for a safer, more accountable tech industry. If you’ve ever felt the weight of corporate silence or been pushed to the brink in a system that’s more about profit than people, this conversation serves as an eye-opener. Kelly opens up about her time at Meta and the deeply toxic corporate culture she experienced, which led to her risking it all by taking on the company with a high-profile lawsuit. She reveals her fight to hold Meta accountable for the harm done, particularly to vulnerable users. As a former senior executive, Kelly sheds light on the urgent need for corporate accountability in an environment that prioritizes growth over people’s well-being, and how her treatment after speaking out about racial and cultural issues within Meta eventually led to her whistleblowing. If you're interested in the human side of big tech and how systems of power perpetuate harm, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to hear Kelly’s remarkable journey and discover how she’s taking a stand for change, even when it comes at great personal cost. Two small corrections from Kelly: "After listening back, two quick clarifications to my comments in the spirit of accuracy. I said it is illegal for companies to collect data on children. Clarification: it's illegal to collect data on children without parental consent. Also, I said I was 21 when I was first sexually assaulted by my boss, but I misspoke. I was 23 years old." “It's a great privilege to be able to tell the truth.” ~ Kelly Stonelake In This Episode: -The challenges of working with Horizon Worlds -The role of senior leadership in perpetuating corporate culture -The impact of being laid off, especially for neurodivergent individuals -Meta’s disregard for product safety and how that impacts children -Embracing the privilege of being able to tell the truth -Kelly’s reflections on DEI and corporate accountability -The emotional impact of being a whistleblower -Discrimination and ageism in the tech industry And much more! Resources: -Stonelake v. Meta - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kellystonelake_stonelake-v-meta-activity-7292542424248135681-wJi_/ -The Autistic Burnout Workbook by Dr. Megan Anna Neff - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1507223064 Connect with Kelly Stonelake: -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellystonelake/ -Substack: https://overturned.substack.com/ and https://substack.com/@kellystonelake Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn:

Let’s get real: hiring today is a mess. I’ve been there both as a candidate and as the interviewer who wasn’t properly trained. So, when I discovered Lorna Erickson and Victoria Gates, two women who are revolutionizing the corporate interviewing landscape, I knew we had to have them on the show. In this episode, we dive into the shocking state of interviews today - from the mundane but outdated, biased questions that are still being asked to the absolute trainwreck moments that are happening at the table. Like a hiring manager who thought it was a good idea to ask a candidate to sell a dirty old shoe, sort of a creative take on that age-old sales question, “sell me this pen.” Yeah, you’ll want to hear this story. But it’s not all doom and gloom! Lorna and Victoria share how they transitioned from the corporate world into entrepreneurship, using their combined expertise to help businesses and hiring managers learn how to conduct effective interviews without inadvertently violating the law (yes, asking about holiday plans to try to figure out if a candidate is a parent is illegal). They’ve been able to show incredible results for their clients, underscoring how getting the interview process right brings a massive, lasting impact. They’ve been there, and they’re showing others how to do it right. Of course, we can’t talk about interviewing without touching on ageism, something that has been a problem for both older and younger candidates. We discuss how unconscious bias shows up in interviews and how companies need to adopt a broader perspective. Spoiler alert: it’s not just about hiring people you can grab beers with. And the best part? They share their golden rule of interviewing, and trust me, if companies started following it, it would completely shift the hiring process. It’s about respect, balance, and ensuring you’re bringing in the right person, not just the most convenient one. Listen to the episode and let’s make the hiring process better, together. The future of work depends on it! “If it would be weird if a candidate did it to you, don't do it to them.” ~ Lorna Erickson (The Golden Rule of Interviewing) In This Episode: -Worst interview stories and candidate experiences -Training hiring managers to interview better -How Lorna and Victoria grew their online following -Unconscious bias and ageism during an interview -The golden rule for interviewers and the future of work -Fixing company culture, one hire at a time And much more! Resources: -Expert Interviewers Training Services: https://expert-interviewers.mykajabi.com/training-services Connect with Lorna Erickson and Victoria Gates: -Website: https://expertinterviewers.com/ -Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/expertinterviewers/ -TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@expertinterviewers -Lorna Erickson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lornaerickson/ -Victoria Gates LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vpreston/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn:

I’m not gonna lie–this episode hit deep. Bradley Richardson and I recorded this one for both our audiences, and it turned into the realest talk I’ve had in a while. We peeled back the polish and got straight into the messy middle of work, life, and what we all do to survive this stage of midlife. If you've ever been laid off, cut off by your work “family,” or fed up with the BS around personal branding, you’re in good company. Bradley and I unpack what really happens behind hiring decisions (spoiler: hard work doesn’t always pay off), how social media is frying our nervous systems, and why entrepreneurship isn't all beach retreats and flowy bathrobes. We also get vulnerable about adult friendships – the kind that fade, the ones that surprise you, and the painful truth that growth sometimes means outgrowing people. Bradley shares a brutally honest moment with his son that I won’t forget, and I talk about finally taking off the mask after decades of trying to do things “right.” So if you’re feeling behind, off-track, or just bone-tired of pretending you’ve got it all figured out, this one's for you. Come hang with us, and let’s say the quiet part out loud. Listen now, and send that text to a friend you miss. If this episode resonates, send it to them too! “I think the greatest cure for loneliness for people in midlife is actually getting out of your comfort zone, as uncomfortable as it is, and making that first move.” ~ Bradley Richardson In This Episode: -Why job loyalty is a myth and what really happens behind closed doors -How ageism shows up in hiring and the subtle ways older workers get sidelined -What the future of work actually looks like -Why adult friendships are so hard (and so vital) -How to stop living by someone else’s rulebook And much more! Resources: -The Great Man's Lady - a 1941 film starring Barbara Stanwyck. It tells the story of the 100-year-old Hannah recalling her past, allowing for a reflection on the aging process and the accumulation of memories and experiences. Connect with Bradley Richardson: -Website: https://www.imbradleyrichardson.com/ -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/imbradleyrichardson/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/ -YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1 -Facebook:

What has more to do with longevity: your zip code or your genetic code? The answer might just surprise you. In this episode, I’m thrilled to have Dr. Debra Whitman, Chief Public Policy Officer at AARP and author of “The Second Fifty: Answers to the 7 Big Questions of Midlife and Beyond” join me to discuss the changing narrative of aging. Deb’s journey into this field began at a young age; growing up living with her grandmother, who had schizophrenia, shaped her deep passion for improving the lives of older adults. Her book, “The Second Fifty,” is a profound exploration of the reality of aging in America, highlighting the disparities in life expectancy, healthcare, and the retirement crisis many face, while also offering actionable steps for improving how we live, work, and age. From the big questions in our second half of life to the importance of intergenerational teams, this conversation will change the way you think about aging and help you embrace it with purpose and intention. This episode is a call to action to adopt a more positive view of aging and to build systems that support healthy, vibrant aging for everyone - not just a select few. Instead of dreading birthdays, why not embrace them with gratitude and start planning your next big adventure? Who knows - your second 50 might just be your best 50! Listen now to hear Deb’s inspiring insights, learn about AARP’s important work on behalf of older adults, and hear how we can shift the mentality around aging in our society. “If you think more positively about your future, then that's the best health behavior you can have.” ~ Dr. Debra Whitman In This Episode: -The need for authenticity in aging and why it’s time to embrace The Second 50 -How positive aging and mindset shifts can add years to your life -Why multigenerational teams are essential for business success -How older workers are critical for driving economic growth and innovation And much more! Resources: -The Second 50 by Dr. Debra Whitman: https://www.aarp.org/entertainment/books/bookstore/money-work-retirement/info-2023/the-second-fifty.html Connect with Dr. Debra Whitman: -Website: https://www.aarp.org/ -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-whitman/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/ -YouTube: @itgetslateearly -

What happens when the most brutal battle of your life changes how you approach everything? Cancer sucks. It rips apart someone’s life. So, can you believe someone “gamified cancer” to make sure she still got the most out of life during her fight? Yup, that would be my friend, Loren. In this episode, I’m joined by executive career strategist Loren Greiff, the driving force behind helping job seekers over age 40 land their ideal roles. Her story is nothing short of inspiring - she’s not only a career coach but also a survivor of advanced-stage cancer, and she brings her incredible resilience to her work helping others get back to work. Loren helps job seekers reinvent themselves, cultivate the optimal mindset, and get intentional during job transitions. She’s all about reframing difficult situations and turning challenges into opportunities (see earlier point about “gamifying cancer”). Loren’s story is a reminder that age should never be seen as a negative. She helps her clients go beyond viewing their years of experience as a liability and instead shift their focus forward to what they can deliver in the future. Her work highlights the shifting narrative around ageism in the workforce, particularly for those over 40, and demonstrates how anyone can continue to reinvent their career and make meaningful contributions. Loren’s infectious energy and drive have helped many of her clients secure roles that truly align with their passions. Tune in to hear Loren’s inspiring story and game-changing career strategies. If you’re ready to reinvent your career, this episode is a must-listen! “You don’t have to have cancer in order to gamify tough things in your life.” ~ Loren Greiff In This Episode: -Gamifying tough situations -Finding success in navigating career transitions -How Portfolio Rocket can help you land your dream job -Tips for effective networking, overcoming doubts, and embracing uncertainty And much more! Resources: -Doubt is Death. My 3 Secrets To Certainty In Your Search | Loren Greiff - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1kv2x6s9uw Connect with Loren Greiff: -Website: https://www.portfoliorocket.com/ -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorengreiff/ -Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/career-blast-in-a-half/id1670977528 Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/ -Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/ -YouTube:

We’re done just talking about ageism. In this episode, we show you how to do something about it. Janine Vanderburg is the powerhouse behind Changing the Narrative and CEO of Encore Roadmap. She joins me to talk about how she and a coalition of advocates helped pass the groundbreaking Job Application Fairness Act in Colorado - legislation that bans asking for graduation dates or age identifiers in job applications. It’s a big win for both older and younger workers - and a roadmap for change in other states. Just in time for Intergenerational Week and Older Americans Month, this is a must-listen if you’ve ever felt invisible in the job market or want to turn your frustration into progress. From the importance of intergenerational teams in the workplace to the business case for older workers, Janine provides practical advice for both job seekers and employers. What you’ll get from this episode: ✅ How the Job Application Fairness Act is changing the game for job seekers in Colorado ✅ Why intergenerational teams are essential for business success ✅ Stories of how ageism impacts real people in the workforce ✅ Janine’s journey from consultant to anti-ageism advocate and how you can get involved Tune in to hear Janine’s incredible journey and learn how we can all be part of the solution. Let’s go! “My mantra personally is: It’s not too late—dreams don't have an expiration date.” ~ Janine Vanderburg In This Episode: -How Colorado became the first state to ban age-based application screening -Why this law helps both Gen Z and older generations -How to tell your story without risking your career -Why intergenerational teams drive business success - and how to make the business case -How you can bring this law to your own state (yes, there’s a toolkit!) And much more! Resources: -Colorado's Job Application Fairness Act: Advancing Age Inclusion in Hiring by Janine Vanderburg: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/colorados-job-application-fairness-act-advancing-age-vanderburg-hvmwc/ -AARP Research on Age Discrimination: https://www.aarp.org/politics-society/advocacy/info-2025/older-workers-fear-age-discrimination.html -Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wiser-than-me-with-julia-louis-dreyfus/id1678559416 Connect with Janine Vanderburg: -Website: https://encoreroadmap.com/ and https://changingthenarrativeco.org/ -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janinevanderburg/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/ -Website:

If you’ve ever been blindsided by a layoff, wrestled with feeling “too old” for the job search, or wondered if your career peak is behind you, this episode is for you. In this deeply honest and refreshingly human episode, I speak with Nick Passarelli, a fintech exec and former HR leader whose early career taught him the hard truth: corporate loyalty doesn’t always pay off. From leading mass layoffs at just 24 years old to witnessing longtime employees get pushed out with nowhere to go, Nick saw firsthand how brutal and impersonal the system can be. Those early experiences shaped his lifelong commitment to advocating against ageism and helping older professionals navigate a work world that’s not exactly rooting for them. We talk layoffs, job searches after 50, ageism’s impact on women, and why “Jenga families” are more common than you think. Nick brings honesty, humility, and plenty of practical advice (and memes–yes, really) to a conversation every mid-career professional needs to hear. Nick's story is a powerful reminder that reinvention is possible and that empathy, preparation, and a little humor can go a long way. “Never add your work friends onto your socials because they could totally use that against you. I learned this through a friend at my old company, and I thought it was brilliant.” ~ Nick Passarelli In This Episode: -Nick’s diverse career path, from HR to fintech -Mass layoffs during Y2K and the emotional toll -First encounter with ageism, layoffs for long-tenured workers -Transitioning from HR to compliance, adapting career focus -What it's like for a young recruiter to interview older candidates -Maximizing “prime earning years” (35-55) and balancing expenses -“Jenga families” and the financial risks of not planning for job transitions -The personal impact of job loss in your 50s -How women can set themselves up for success -Networking, upskilling, and staying positive in a job search -Keeping the fun and laughter despite your corporate situation And much more! Resources: -Ross Pomerantz aka Corporate Bro: https://www.instagram.com/corporate.bro/ -Corporate Natalie: https://www.instagram.com/corporatenatalie/ -Ben Sweeny: https://www.instagram.com/corporate.sween/ -Jamie Jackson: https://www.instagram.com/humorous_resources/ -LinkedIn Learning (Free and paid courses to enhance skills): https://www.linkedin.com/learning/ -SHRM (Society for Human Resource Management) Certifications: https://www.shrm.org/mena/credentials/certification Connect with Nick Passarelli: -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-passarelli-9777454/ Connect with Maureen Clough: -LinkedIn: maureenwclough -