The Best Ever CRE Show

John Casmon interviews Ben Kanner, founder of Three V Infrastructure, about the growing intersection between EV charging and multifamily real estate. Ben shares his journey from subprime mortgages to Deutsche Bank portfolio management and eventually into renewable infrastructure, where he identified a major financing gap in EV charging for commercial properties. He explains why EV charging should be viewed primarily as an amenity rather than a direct NOI driver and how operators can use it to attract higher-income renters, increase rents, and reduce turnover. Ben breaks down EV adoption trends, noting that while U.S. penetration still trails global markets, adoption continues to rise—especially with more affordable EV models and a wave of used Teslas entering the market. For multifamily owners, the key isn’t just installation, but proper underwriting based on EV registration data, demographic trends, and projected utilization. Three V Infrastructure offers a no-upfront-cost model where they fund, install, own, and manage the chargers, taking utilization risk and only profit-sharing after recouping their capital and a threshold return. Ben KannerCurrent role: Founder, Three V InfrastructureBased in: Bay Area, California Where to find Ben Email: bkanner@3vinfrastructure.com Website: https://www.3vinfrastructure.com Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth interviews Matt Faupel about how most commercial real estate investors overlook one of the most dynamic and resilient asset classes: office space. In this eye-opening episode, Matt Faupel from Cushman & Wakefield reveals how the future of office management is being revolutionized by cutting-edge tools, including AI, and why understanding the nuances of this market can unlock hidden value and protect your investments. Imagine transforming your approach to office management with insights that go beyond traditional strategies covering everything from security protocols for C-suite safety to the incredible potential of AI in diagnostics and predictive maintenance. Matt shares real-world stories, from bullet holes to animal intrusions, illustrating why proactive management and emergency preparedness can save millions and ensure tenant retention in an ever-evolving landscape. Matt Faupel Current role: Founder of Faupelx, Sr. Property Manager at Cushman & Wakefield Based in: Greater St. Louis Where to find them: https://www.faupelx.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/faupelm/ Visit https://www.trustetc.com/ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pascal Wagner interviews Judd Dunning, who breaks down how American small and mid-cap businesses can leverage sale-leaseback deals to unlock 100% financing, grow their brands, and create win-win outcomes. He shares behind-the-scenes insights from closing billion-dollar deals with Deutsche Bank, the secret advantages of cost segregation accelerated depreciation, and why AI is transforming underwriting cutting days into minutes. You’ll discover the key red flags to avoid, how to assess customer concentration risks, and why on-shoring and supply chain shifts are fueling a new industrial boom. Judd Dunning Current role: President at DWG Capital Partners Based in: Los Angeles, California, Where to find them: https://dwg-re.com/our-team/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/judd-dunning/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ash Patel & Amanda Cruise interviews Ryan Narus as he shares his journey from a middle-class upbringing and a $60,000 MBA to the founder of a multimillion-dollar mobile home park portfolio. He explains why traditional education and slow, safe growth often limit entrepreneurs and how living in a mobile home park, teaching himself Spanish, and doing what's uncomfortable can accelerate learning and grit. You'll discover the importance of trailblazing, the power of doing things no one else will, and why being David versus Goliath has its advantages in today’s evolving real estate landscape. Most entrepreneurs are told to follow the conventional path, get that MBA, rent their own apartment, build a business step-by-step. But what if the secret to massive success is doing the opposite? Ryan Narus reveals how living in mobile home parks, learning skills the hard way, and taking unconventional risks propelled him from near zero to a thriving real estate empire and why this bold approach might be exactly what you need right now. Ryan Narus Current role: Co-Founder of Archimedes Group, LLC Based in: Charlotte, North Carolina Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-narus-87293417/ http://www.archimedesgrp.com Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr interviews Tyson Cobb from Timberview Capital, diving deep into the world of fund management and investment strategies. Tyson shares his unique journey from being a semi-retired orthopedic surgeon to becoming a successful real estate investor and fund manager. The discussion highlights the importance of building a strong team culture. A key focus of the episode is on designing investor-centric solutions, such as tax-efficient Roth rollovers, to maximize returns. Tyson discusses the value of participating in masterminds and strategic meetings to foster continuous learning and business development. The episode also touches on the importance of maintaining a high-performance team and the challenges of hiring the right talent to avoid culture dilution. Tyson Cobb Current role: Founder of Timberview Capital Based in: Bettendorf, Iowa Where to find them: https://timberviewcapital.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/tysoncobbmd/ Visit https://www.trustetc.com/ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this solo Horizon episode, John breaks down the Supreme Court’s ruling on tariffs, the subsequent policy shifts, and what it all means for the broader economy and commercial real estate. While tariffs don’t directly hit property owners, he explains how the ripple effects—particularly uncertainty—are slowing job creation, household formation, and overall space demand. He highlights how weaker migration and hiring trends are creating headwinds in overbuilt Sunbelt markets, while pent-up demand continues to build beneath the surface. John also shares observations from the Best Ever Conference, noting that institutional capital may lead the next cycle while retail syndication capital remains constrained. Visit https://www.trustetc.com/ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Casmon interviews Mitchell Rice about how he mastered the art of capital raising through door-to-door sales, why analyzing deals is only half the battle, and the importance of building deep relationships with brokers and sellers. Discover how he evaluates deal viability using practical metrics like yield on cost, and why understanding local market nuances is vital even when out-of-state investors want in. Mitchell Rice Current role: Managing Partner, Elkstone Capital Based in: Salt Lake City, Metropolitan Area Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchell-rice-8b38b315b/ https://www.elkstonecapitalpartners.com/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Liz Faircloth takes over Next Level CRE and interviews Amanda Han. They share how even seasoned investors are navigating a market of extremes from deals no longer penciling out to newfound opportunities that are finally coming to fruition. You'll discover actionable insights on when to sell a struggling property to reclaim losses, how to redeploy capital strategically, and the critical role tax planning plays in maximizing your wealth. She breaks down common mistakes investors make like confusing tax filing with strategic tax planning and offers simple tactics to keep more of your earnings each year. Amanda Han and Liz Faircloth Current role: Amanda Han: Tax Managing Director at Keystone CPA Liz Faircloth: Co-founder, The Real Estate InvestHER Based in: Amanda Han: Orange, California, Liz Faircloth: New Hope, Pennsylvania, Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandayhan/ https://therealestateinvesther.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/liz-faircloth-36783/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pascal Wagner sits down with Colin Plume, the founder and CEO of Noble Gold Investments, to explore the dynamic world of precious metals amidst today's volatile economic landscape. They delve into how recent geopolitical shifts, central bank strategies, and supply shortages are influencing the demand for gold and silver. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of the risks and opportunities in buying precious metals at near all-time highs, along with practical advice on evaluating metals providers. The conversation also covers the potential revaluation of U.S. gold reserves and its implications for the market, as well as the importance of owning physical metals versus paper contracts. With a focus on portfolio diversification, Colin offers strategies for incorporating precious metals alongside real estate and business investments, providing a comprehensive guide for those looking to hedge against currency devaluation and financial instability. Collin Plume Current role: Partner, Guardian HR. CEO, My Digital Money, Noble Gold Investments Based in: Los Angeles, California Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/collin-plume/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ash Patel & Amanda Cruise have a conversation with Chad Freeman about how most mobile home park investors struggle with overpaying and navigating a fragmented market where prices skyrocket once deals hit broker listings. Chad Freeman reveals the counterintuitive strategies that keep him hunting for off-market gems, focusing on fundamentals like location, the interest rate-cap rate spread, and distressed properties others overlook. If you're tired of chasing thin deals in a crowded space, this episode unlocks how to outlast, outsmart, and secure true value in an asset class often dismissed as too tough. Discover how Chad's unique approach to off-market sourcing, relationship-building with brokers, and understanding the real risks like wastewater systems and park culture gives him an edge in the Sunbelt and Midwest markets. We break down critical tactics such as analyzing lot rent, avoiding inflated broker prices, and the importance of management turnaround to boost values. You’ll also learn why barriers to entry are actually opportunities and how resilience and volume are keys to outperforming institutional investors flooding the space. Chad Freeman Current role: Real Estate Investor at MHPinvestors, LLC Based in: Dallas, Texas Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-freeman-90967411a/ MHPinvestors.com Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Seth Bradley interviews Brittany Barchalk, Vice President of Operations at TribeVest, live from the Best Ever Conference 10 in Salt Lake City. They discuss how the fund-to-funds model has evolved from a niche concept requiring heavy education to a more widely understood and increasingly adopted capital-raising strategy. Brittany shares how market shifts and heightened compliance awareness have driven demand for infrastructure, professionalism, and scalable systems. The conversation also highlights the launch of Trident, TribeVest’s new end-to-end platform designed to streamline SPV formation, investor onboarding, compliance, and distributions, making it easier for capital aggregators and lead sponsors to build sustainable businesses. Brittany BarchalkCurrent role: Vice President of Operations, TribeVestBased in: Columbus, OhioSay hi to them at: https://www.tribevest.com/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittanybarchalk/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGurr sits down with Brian and Gina Roth, two successful investors who quickly went from LPs to raising a $1.2 million debt fund in just three months. Their journey reveals how genuine storytelling, strategic-networking, and leveraging your own portfolio can unlock extraordinary capital-raising results even if you're starting from zero. This episode is perfect for aspiring fundraisers, real estate investors looking to scale, or anyone tired of endless chasing with little payoff. Brian and Gina’s story proves that with the right approach, accelerating from passive investor to active capital-raiser is not only possible but highly profitable. Where to find them: https://mynewera.com/ Book your free demo today at ⁠bill.com/bestever⁠ and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit⁠ ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to ⁠quo.com/BESTEVER⁠ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sandhya Seshadri shares her inspiring journey from being an engineer to becoming a successful multifamily investor. Starting with her first 86-unit deal in 2018, Sandhya discusses the importance of partnering with experienced sponsors, building strong broker relationships, and defining clear acquisition criteria. She emphasizes the value of reputation, credibility, and deep relationships in acquiring deals, and offers practical strategies for managing underperforming assets through communication, transparency, and investor relations. They also explore the significance of diversification beyond multifamily investments, discussing her ventures into oil and gas, stocks, and private credit funds. She highlights the importance of focusing on net cash flow and maintaining cash-positive business plans. Sandhya Seshadri Current role: Founder, Engineered Capital Based in: Dallas-Forth Worth Where to find them: LinkedIn.com/in/engineered-capital Engineered-Capital.com Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth interviews Dwight Dunton, founder of Bonaventure, who shares lessons from building a 10,000-unit multifamily portfolio and investing through multiple market cycles since 1999. He explains why multifamily remains resilient during downturns, emphasizing that housing is an essential need and long-term success depends on financing assets with fixed-rate, long-term debt to survive economic volatility. Dwight also discusses how emotional decision-making can hurt investors, encouraging rational analysis when deciding whether to hold or sell distressed assets. He highlights opportunities emerging from declining new construction starts, constrained supply, and value-add renovations, along with long-term growth potential in senior housing driven by demographic trends. Dwight DuntonCurrent role: Founder, BonaventureBased in: Alexandria, VirginiaSay hi to them at: https://www.bonaventure.com/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pascal Wagner interviews Christopher Nelson about how accredited investors can position their portfolios for 2026 while balancing income, growth, and capital preservation. They unpack the realities of living off portfolio income, including rising healthcare costs, taxes, and the importance of clean financial reporting across entities. Pascal shares how his family’s annual expenses increased significantly once depreciation benefits tapered off, prompting a strategic review of asset allocation and liquidity needs Christopher explains how he runs his micro family office like a business, using a structured “evergreen” framework that assigns every dollar a job: growth, income, or capital preservation . He outlines his income pyramid approach, blending qualified dividend ETFs, covered call ETFs, private credit, and real estate to create more resilient cash flow. The conversation also explores position sizing, treasury strategies, gold versus silver, international diversification, and the importance of a personal board of advisors when making large allocation decisions. Christopher NelsonCurrent role: Founder, WealthOpsBased in: Austin, TexasSay hi to them at: https://wealthops.live | https://www.youtube.com/@managingtechmillions | https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-nelson-wealthops/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jamie Thiel and Jeni Burke join Ash and Amanda to share how they transitioned from residential real estate and limited partner investing into larger commercial opportunities, leveraging their complementary strengths to build a growing portfolio together. Jamie began as an LP in 2018 while working as a commercial roofer in multifamily, gaining exposure to ownership from the vendor side. Jeni, with over two decades of experience as a licensed real estate agent and a background in small multifamily investing, brought operational depth and acquisition experience. After reconnecting at a Women in Real Estate event, they launched their company and quickly closed on a mixed-use property combining retail and residential units Jamie ThielCurrent role: Co-Founder, Empower House LLCBased in: Cincinnati, OhioSay hi to them at: empowerhouseLLC@gmail.com Jeni BurkeCurrent role: Co-Founder, Empower House LLCBased in: Cincinnati, OhioSay hi to them at: empowerhouseLLC@gmail.com Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Seth Bradley interviews Ben Fraser, Managing Director and Chief Investment Officer at Aspen Funds, on how Aspen built a scalable fund-to-funds platform to support more than 40 independent capital aggregators in 2025 alone. Ben breaks down Aspen’s macro-driven investment philosophy, how the firm evolved from distressed mortgage notes after the Great Financial Crisis into a multi-asset platform, and why focusing on tailwinds matters more than sticking to a single asset class. The conversation dives deep into the structural shift from co-GP capital raising to compliant fund-of-funds models, the importance of simplifying backend infrastructure for promoters, and why recurring cash-flowing products can unlock true scalability for capital raisers. Ben also shares where he sees the independent capital aggregator model heading as private market demand accelerates. Guest InfoBen FraserCurrent role: Managing Director & Chief Investment Officer, Aspen FundsBased in: United StatesSay hi to them at: https://aspenfunds.us | Invest Like a Billionaire Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sean Flanagan shares real, raw lessons from failed land deals, capital raises, and the key mindset shift that can turn setbacks into success. If you're tired of spinning wheels and ready to make high-impact moves in industrial or water rights, this episode reveals how to get in the right room, build undeniable credibility, and create content that attracts your ideal investors and partners. Discover why focusing on one niche can skyrocket your authority and how to leverage simple content strategies to stay top of mind. Sean breaks down the exact steps to get your first few million raised, why reputation matters in complex deals, and how to turn your knowledge into a consistent lead generator. Sean Flanagan Current role: Founder-Owner, Flanagan Real Estate LLC, Water Resource Broker, Hydro Source Incorporated Based in: Castle Rock, Colorado Where to find them: https://www.flanagan-real-estate.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-flanagan-7a294625/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Chang unpacks massive downward revisions to U.S. job growth and what they signal for commercial real estate. He explains how nearly 900,000 jobs were wiped out through revisions, why government data models are struggling in a post-pandemic economy, and how policy uncertainty and tariffs are weighing on hiring. John also addresses the recent AI-driven Wall Street selloff in brokerage stocks, arguing that fears of automation disrupting CRE brokerage and office demand are overstated. Throughout, he connects labor trends, wage growth, healthcare hiring, and consumer sentiment directly to property performance across sectors. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michael Oden shares his journey from Detroit to Atlanta, highlighting his innovative approach to affordable housing development. As a broker developer, Michael focuses on acquiring raw land and leveraging creative zoning strategies to unlock value and increase housing density. He discusses the importance of understanding local market factors, such as area median income, to set affordability thresholds and ensure that new construction projects remain financially viable even in challenging economic environments. Michael Oden Current role: CEO and Affordify Housing Fund, Dream Home Today, Based in: Atlanta, Georgia Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-oden-59960b32b https://affordifyhousing.com/ https://www.dreamhometoday.net/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices