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Between The Lines With Jason Martinez

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We're constantly communicating, but do we pay attention to what's really being said? This podcast explores the way we communicate about politics, religion, race, culture, and more.

We're constantly communicating, but do we pay attention to what's really being said? This podcast explores the way we communicate about politics, religion, race, culture, and more.
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We're constantly communicating, but do we pay attention to what's really being said? This podcast explores the way we communicate about politics, religion, race, culture, and more.






Episode 24 - Ancestry, Identity, Humanity

In this episode I reveal the results of an Ancestry DNA test I took recently. There were some surprises, and the results caused me to consider that the ways in which we identify by “ethnicity” are really more about culture and appearance. I suggest how this way of seeing identity should shape how we interact with the whole of humanity.

Duration: 00:18:20

Episode 23 - White Evangelicalism with Mele Martinez

This special episode features my wife, Mele Martinez, with whom I discuss a recent controversy over what some refer to as White Evangelicalism. Hip-hop artist, Lecrae, recently began moving away from identifying as a Christian in that specific context and has instead opted to look at a form of Christianity that allows for multiple cultural expressions in the American church. The decision generated articles from high-profile pastoral figures such as John Piper and has added something to the...

Duration: 00:36:44

Episode 22 - Violence

In this episode I examine violence as an innate part of who we are as human beings. I acknowledge the death and destruction that comes with it, but suggest reasons we should not seek to rid ourselves of it completely. It is struggle and risk and absolutely necessary. We would not have made it to this place we enjoy without it.

Duration: 00:15:16

Episode 21 - Days Of The Dead?

In this episode, I critique an event unique to Tucson, AZ: The All Souls Procession. I discuss it’s similarity to Dia De Los Muertos (Day of The Dead) in Puebla, MX and suggest it may represent a borrowing of culture done the wrong way. I analyze the Facebook page for the event and discuss what the marketing strategies may be for the organization that holds the event.

Duration: 00:20:40

Episode 20 - Art Isn’t Safe

In this episode, I talk about why art isn’t safe. It has become disturbing to observe how ideological groups have engaged in creating art while simultaneously censoring art they don’t like. I tell the story of a poetry event I recently attended where we were encouraged to talk to management if anything that was said “triggered” (or offended) us. I discuss why I’m against the idea that those observing art can talk to an authority figure to change the standards of art that is presented in...

Duration: 00:21:42

Episode 19 - The Allure of Music

In this episode I discuss the allure of music….how it influences our thinking and our actions. I recall how certain songs take me back to feelings or memories from childhood, and I discuss the good and bad of reliving them. We all love music, but I suggest we should examine how any given piece of music influences the consistency with which we live out our lives in light of our moral and ethical codes.

Duration: 00:37:52

Episode 18 - The Scott Peterson Trial and IQ

In this episode I discuss the Scott Peterson trial and question whether or not the jury had been competant in determining his guilt. I pose the question as to whether or not we should have a baseline measurement of intelligence when we select juries for trials that may lead to jail time and/or a death sentence for the accused. Would the intelligence of the jury be important to you if you were the one on trial?

Duration: 00:13:49

Episode 17 - Nuanced Thinking

In this episode I discuss two controversial issues: DACA/immigration and campus sexual assault policies. We tend to have emotional responses to an issue before we consider the nuance or complexity of all that’s involved. I discuss the danger of simplistic “taking of sides” and not giving due consideration to all aspects of a given issue. I detail the good and bad of these two issues and make a case for developing a more well-researched, well-reasoned stance.

Duration: 00:17:17

Episode 16 - Planning My Future

In this episode I focus on self-communication. We think we know what we believe, but how can we be sure unless we articulate it somehow, even to ourselves in writing? Have you ever said something you believed and immediately realized it was stupid? I have. I discuss my process of articulating to myself my own personal “heaven” to attain and “hell” to avoid using the Future Authoring program developed my clinical psychologists. For more information, go to

Duration: 00:27:43

Episode 15 - Interview With The Company Men

In this episode I sit down with Jared and Chuck of the Company Men podcast! The Company Men regularly host people in their homes over meals and as a result, help to cultivate community amongst people from all walks of life. We discuss why it’s important to host, what it means to live a life that is consistenc with one’s professed beliefs, and why it’s so important to be involved in the community.

Duration: 00:44:17

Episode 14 - Charolttesville - A Failure to Communicate

Following a podcast where I discussed the meaning of love, we find ourselves trying to make sense of a week of hate and vitrol between White supremacists and Antifa Marxist thugs. In episode 14, I do not suggest denouncing racism with a caveat, but denouncing it while simultaneously condemning Antifa violence. The murder of a protestor in the name of White supremacy is the worst of the whole affair, but it isn’t the only detestable action in a day of repeated violence and refusal to...

Duration: 00:15:51

Episode 13 - The Messiness of Love

In this episode I discuss what we mean when we say “love.” I expolre the many ways in which people use the term and whether or not we have a good understanding of what it should truly represent. What does it mean to see love as self-interest? What does it mean to see it as compassion? What does love have to say about the current marching and rioting in Charleston, NC?

Duration: 00:14:16

Episode 12 - Tricky Language

In this episode, I spell out the meaning of “euphemism” and “ideograph” and discuss how these are used to shut down or dominate communicative exchanges. I suggest a better way to communicate that leads to understanding.

Duration: 00:15:02

Episode 11 - Racial Identity

In this episode I discuss what racial identity means, how it affects us, and whether or not it determines who we truly are.

Duration: 00:12:58

Episode 10 - The Art of Abandoning Art

In this episode I detail why I ceased to be an artist after 18 years of touring, teaching, and performing.

Duration: 00:14:47

Episode 9 - Masculinity with Josh Clutter

In this special episode I have a discussion with Dr. Josh Clutter on what it means to be a man.

Duration: 00:45:13

Episode 8 - E(race)ing History

In this episode, we “take a little trip” as we discuss the good and the bad of taking down historical monuments under the banner of anti-racism.

Duration: 00:12:58

Episode 7g - Confessions Of A Four Year Old

In this episode, I attempt to communicate with my four-year-old daughter who loves She Ra.

Duration: 00:09:55

Episode 7 - What’s So Funny?

In this episode I argue that just because something is inapporpriate or offensive doesn’t mean it isn’t funny.

Duration: 00:10:56

Episode 6 - Interview With Mele Martinez

In this episode I interview writer and college instructor at the University of Arizona, Mele Martinez. She shares her culture and experience as a Tucson native and Chicana.

Duration: 00:26:34

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