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Episode 154 Roger Dean Part 2 of 2 This is part 2 of the Roger Dean case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now, and go back and listen to part 1 first. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on social media; find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree: linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast

Episode 154 Roger Dean Part 1 of 2 DNA: ID is back after summer hiatus with a doozy of a case! On Thursday, November 21, 1985, Roger Dean was seen by neighbors drinking his morning coffee in his garage. The next thing they knew, Roger way lying in the cul de sac, shot to death. His hysterical wife told a terrifying tale of a masked gunman, restraints, demands, a fight, gunshots. After the dust settled, Roger’s wife and daughter ended up in police crosshairs. They would be re-traumatized five years later when the killer resurfaced, trying to extort money from the grieving widow. Even though witnesses had seen the gunman, and the FBI chased the extortionist all over Denver, he eluded authorities, and the case went cold. But, the gunman had made a crucial mistake, leaving behind evidence that decades later would be used by a savvy law enforcement genealogist to identify him at long last. This episode is sponsored by Mint Mobile; wireless service that's easy. Listeners of DNA ID qualify for the following special offer from Mint Mobile; as a new Mint Mobile customer, you will get 3 months unlimited wireless plan for just $15 a month when you use our special link to signup at mintmobile.com/DNAID. (up front payment of $45 required, limited time new customer offer for first 3 months only. Speeds may slow above 35GB on unlimited plan. Taxes and fees extra. Visit our special link above for full details.) To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on social media; find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree: linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast

Introducing: Clues with Morgan Absher & Kaelyn Moore Join hosts Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore as they take you deep into the world of the most notorious crimes ever — where a single clue can crack a case wide open. From shocking murders to serial killers, Clues dives into all the forensic details and brilliant sleuthing of the world's most infamous cases. CLUES is a Crime House Original, powered by PAVE Studios. Follow and listen now wherever you get your podcasts.

Episode 153 A conversation with former FBI agent Julia Cowley Our guest today is Julia Cowley, who retired from the FBI after 22 years at the agency. She has a bachelor's degree in chemistry from the University of Oregon and a master's degree in forensic science from The George Washington University. Before joining the FBI, Julia was a Special Agent/Forensic Scientist with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation. When she joined the federal agency, Julia was first posted to the Boston Division. She was also a member and team leader on the Boston Division's Evidence Response Team. Julia then joined the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, and was also assigned to the Evidence Response Team Unit. In her career as an FBI special agent, Julia investigated serial killings and sex offenses, white-collar crime, public corruption, and civil rights. She is certified in Behavioral Analysis by the FBI and was the lead FBI profiler on the Golden State Killer case. She now hosts the hit podcast "The Consult." This is the last episode of DNA: ID before the show goes on summer hiatus. We’ll be back in late August with all new episodes! This episode is sponsored by Mint Mobile; wireless service that's easy. Listeners of DNA ID qualify for the following special offer from Mint Mobile; as a new Mint Mobile customer, you will get 3 months unlimited wireless plan for just $15 a month when you use our special link to signup at mintmobile.com/DNAID. (up front payment of $45 required, limited time new customer offer for first 3 months only. Speeds may slow above 35GB on unlimited plan. Taxes and fees extra. Visit our special link above for full details.) To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on social media; find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree: linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast

Episode 152 Danielle Houchins Part 2 of 2 This is the conclusion; part 2, of the Danielle Houchins case. If you have noy yet listened to part 1 yet, please stop now and go back and listen to that part first. This is the last regular episode of DNA: ID before the show goes on summer hiatus, with a crossover episode dropping on June 30. We’ll be back in late August with all new episodes! To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on these social media outlets: Facebook - X FormerlyTwitter - Blue Sky - Tik Tok - Twitch - Youtube - Instagram Find all of our links in one spot at our Linktree: linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 152 Danielle Houchins Part 1 of 2 In 1996, Danielle “Danni” Houchins was an outdoorsy 15 year old growing up in Belgrade MT. The new driver went for a solo hike at her favorite recreation area outside town, the West Cameron Bridge fishing access site, on a fall Saturday. She did not come home. Searchers found her body face down in inches of swampy water. The ME, coroner and sheriff ruled her death a drowning. But the manner of death was labeled undetermined… even though injuries to Danni’s person, and forensic evidence, said otherwise. And thus began the nearly 30 year quest for justice for Danni. Thanks to a committed new sheriff, a dogged old-school investigator, Danni’s family, and the miracles of modern science, the beloved teen finally got the recognition she deserved, and a form of justice that everyone could live with – except her killer. This is the last regular episode of DNA: ID before the show goes on summer hiatus, with a crossover episode dropping on June 30. We’ll be back in late August with all new episodes! To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on these social media outlets: Facebook - X FormerlyTwitter - Blue Sky - Tik Tok - Twitch - Youtube - Instagram Find all of our links in one spot at our Linktree: linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Listen Now: The Rise & Fall of Diddy: The Federal Trial Episode 1: The United States vs. Sean Combs Opening statements rock the courtroom as federal prosecutors accuse Sean “Diddy” Combs of running a decades-long criminal enterprise built on violence, sex trafficking, and power. The defense hits back hard, painting it all as a toxic relationship, not a RICO case. Then Cassie Ventura takes the stand, and everything changes. Her voice may be quiet. Her story is not. Listen here: https://wondery.fm/Diddy_DNA_ID

Episode 151 Doe ID: Anthony Gulley In December, 2001, a pair of men cutting firewood in Canton, Ohio made a gruesome discovery not far off into a field from a county road. They found a skeletonized body with no identification. A medical examination concluded that the body was likely that of a young African-American woman between the ages of 22-31, and about 5”7” tall. Later DNA analysis would prove that the victim was actually Male, and not Female. By that point, valuable time and resources had been spent trying to match the victim to case of missing women. DNA and genealogy would also later reveal that the John Doe was actually, a man named Anthony Bernard Gulley who went missing on September 11, 1994 along with his car from Pontiac, Michigan. His vehicle was found burned out the next day over 200 miles away in Akron, Ohio. Police quickly uncovered a suspect in the disappearance of Anthony Gulley; a man he knew named George Frederick Washington who had an extensive criminal record. Washington died via a self inflicted gunshot wound after a shootout with police in 1994. Washington had reportedly told someone that he had killed Anthony Gulley in a hotel room and then dumped his body in a river. When Gulley's unidentified body was found on land, and not water, (and thought to be the remains of a woman), police didn't connect the discovery to Gulley. Now, Anthony Gulley has his name back, and this is his story. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on these social media outlets: Facebook - X FormerlyTwitter - Blue Sky - Tik Tok - Twitch - Youtube - Instagram Find all of our links in one spot at our Linktree: linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 150 Sarah Yarborough Part 2 of 2 This is the conclusion of the Sarah Yarborough case. If you have not yet listened to part 1, please stop now, and go back and listen to that part first. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on these social media outlets: Facebook - X FormerlyTwitter - Blue Sky - Tik Tok - Twitch - Youtube - Instagram Find all of our links in one spot at our Linktree: linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 150 Sarah Yarborough Part 1 of 2 There are some case that really grip the community, that undercut the sense of safety and security, and that make people lose their faith in humanity. The murder of Sarah Yarborough was such a case. Sarah was just 16 years old when she was sexually assaulted and murdered in one of the places she should have felt the safest – the grounds of her high school. Not only that, but the crime happened in broad daylight, and there were witnesses who saw her killer. It was impossible that he was not apprehended – but he wasn’t. Despite the groundbreaking use of YDNA to identify the killer’s possible surname, the case remained unsolved for years. When IGG finally provided answers, revealing at long last the name of the man who killed Sarah Yarborough, the Yarborough family and the community of Federal Way, WA breathed a sigh of relief. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on these social media outlets: Facebook - X FormerlyTwitter - Blue Sky - Tik Tok - Twitch - Youtube - Instagram Find all of our links in one spot at our Linktree: linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 149 Doe ID: Kay Adams Medin In February 1993, a man walking along Trinidad Head; a rocky promontory beach area near the town of Trinidad in Humboldt County, California, made a shocking discovery. He found what he believed to be a piece of human skull. He contacted authorities who verified his hunch. DNA from the skull fragment would be entered into various databases in an effort to learn the identify of the donor with no luck. Years later, the skull fragment would be connected to another case through DNA. In November, 1987, the Humboldt County Sheriff's dept received an package in the mail from an anonymous sender. It contained human skeletal remains and an accompanying letter provided directions to more human remains near Ammon Ridge Road in Humboldt County. Investigators went to the location, and found more human remains. An examination of teeth found with the remains confirmed that they belonged to 48 year old Kay Adams Medin. She had been reported missing from her Trinity County home by her husband in August 1987. The location in Humboldt County where her remains were found is over 100 miles away from her home. Eventually, Othram Labs did DNA work on the skull fragment found in 1993 at Trinidad Head, and their work led them to ID the skull fragment as belonging to Kay Adams Medin. That skull fragment was found 45 miles from Kay's home. It remains a mystery as to how the skull fragment wound up so far away from the rest of Kay's remains. Theories include that it was carried by flowing water, or that a large bird may have carried it. Police long suspected that Kay Adams was murdered by her husband Nikolas Medin, but they lacked the evidence to prove it. They theorize that he was the anonymous mailer of the package containing Kay's bones, and the letter directing police to more remains. They believe he only directed them to her remains, so she could be declared dead, and he could collect on her life insurance policy. Nikolas Medin died in 2018, and was never charged in connection with his wife's death. While Kay never got the justice she deserved, she at least got her name back, and this is her story. This week's episode is sponsored by Masterclass. MasterClass is the streaming platform that makes it possible for anyone to watch or listen to hundreds of video lessons taught by 200+ of the world’s best. Whether it be in business and leadership, photography, cooking, writing, acting, music, sports and more, MasterClass delivers a world class online learning experience. Video lessons are available anytime, anywhere on your smartphone, personal computer, Apple TV and FireTV streaming media players. Listeners of DNA ID will receive at least 15% off of their subscription when they sign up using our special show link here.

Episode 148 Velma Nesset Part 2 of 2 This is part 2; the conclusion of the Velma Nesset case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now and go back and listen to part 1 first. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on these social media outlets: Facebook - X FormerlyTwitter - Blue Sky - Tik Tok - Twitch - Instagram For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 148 Velma Nesset Part 1 of 2 64 year old Velma Nesset set out on April 19, 1982, at 4:30 a.m. to walk to her job as a cleaning lady at the Permian Mall in Odessa, TX. When she did not show up for work, people looked for her, and then called the police. Velma’s partially undressed body was found in a drainage culvert under the mall parking lot. She had been stabbed, bludgeoned and raped. The logical suspect, a mentally challenged man who worked at the mall, was tried for her murder. But after that, her case went cold. A Texas Ranger reinvestigation in the mid 2000s isolated a male DNA profile, but the offender was not in CODIS. When he was finally named through IGG, police tracked the man down, and he had quite a story to tell them. According to him, he did not act alone. This week's episode is sponsored by Mint Mobile, and Masterclass. Mint Mobile; wireless coverage your way. Listeners of DNA ID will receive their first 3 months of Mint Mobile service for only $15 when they sign up using our special show link here. MasterClass is the streaming platform that makes it possible for anyone to watch or listen to hundreds of video lessons taught by 200+ of the world’s best. Whether it be in business and leadership, photography, cooking, writing, acting, music, sports and more, MasterClass delivers a world class online learning experience. Video lessons are available anytime, anywhere on your smartphone, personal computer, Apple TV and FireTV streaming media players. Listeners of DNA ID will receive at least 15% off of their subscription when they sign up using our special show link here. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on these social media outlets: Facebook - X FormerlyTwitter - Blue Sky - Tik Tok - Twitch - Instagram For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 147 Doe ID: 'Dumpster Jane Doe' Laurie Potter On October 5th, 2003, a maintenance worker at at the Country Hills Apartment complex in Rancho San Diego, made a horrific discovery in a dumpster when he found a set of severed legs. It was just the beginning of a shocking and perplexing mystery. The legs were found to have come from an adult woman who was deemed to be a homicide victim. Although police did not find any more of her remains, they did find an important clue; the military-style bag that had held her legs was also recovered, and years later, it would lead to the woman's killer. When police ran out of clues early on, and could not match the legs to any missing person in the area, they buried the remains, but not before collecting DNA from them. Years later, investigators employed investigative genetic genealogy and were able to learn that 'Dumpster Jane Doe' was actually Laurie Potter. She had gone missing from Temecula CA not long before her legs were found in the dumpster. Most troubling to detectives, was that her husband Jack Potter had never reported her missing. They began an investigation of him that revealed surprising details, and a 'concerned neighbor' helped them fill in some blanks. When Jack Potter's DNA was found on the bag which had contained his wife's legs, that combined with his neighbor's story, was enough to arrest him. He pled guilty to her murder, and was sentenced to 15 years to life in prison. 'Dumpster Jane Doe' now has her name back, it's Laurie Potter, and this is her story. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 146 Sharon Hammack and Dusty Shuck Part 2 of 2 This is part 2 of the Sharon Hammack and Dusty Shuck episode. If you have not yet listened to part 1, please stop now and go back and listen to part 1 first. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 146 Sharon Hammack and Dusty Shuck Part 1 of 2 In mid 1990s Grand Rapids, Michigan, someone was killing sex workers. Sharon Hammack, a mother of two, was hogtied, stabbed, strangled, raped, and dumped on the side of a road. Despite many suspects, her case remained unsolved; all investigators had to go on was semen left behind by Sharon’s killer. A DNA profile from the semen was entered into CODIS, and while it did not identify Sharon’s killer…it connected her case to a murder 10 years later, in which Dusty Shuck was stabbed and dumped on the side of a road. It would take IGG to figure out who the common thread was in the two cases… and it did so just in time. This episode is sponsored by Masterclass. MasterClass is the streaming platform that makes it possible for anyone to watch or listen to hundreds of video lessons taught by 200+ of the world’s best. Whether it be in business and leadership, photography, cooking, writing, acting, music, sports and more, MasterClass delivers a world class online learning experience. Video lessons are available anytime, anywhere on your smartphone, personal computer, Apple TV and FireTV streaming media players. Listeners of DNA ID will receive a minimum of 15% off any annual membership of Masterclass. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 145 Doe ID 'Singer Island Jane Doe' Susan Poole On June 16, 1974, a man and his two sons were searching for driftwood on Singer Island in the Burnt Bridge area of North Palm Beach, Florida when they found human remains. Investigators descended on the area and found more of the skeletonized remains along with tattered and weathered pieces of clothing. There was no ID with the body, and police would face an uphill battle identifying the remains which were thought to be those of a young woman or teenage girl between the ages of 14 and 25. It was believed that the girl had stood between 4ft11 and 5ft'2 tall, and that she weighed between 83 and 103 pounds. Police found evidence that she had been tied to a tree, leading them to believe that she was likely the victim of a homicide. With not much to go on, the case of the girl that would become known as 'Singer Island Jane Doe' went cold. Although police didn't know who their victim was, they thought they knew who killed her; a vicious, and sadistic serial killer and predator named Gerard John Schaefer. Schaefer worked as a sheriff's deputy for the Marin County, FL sheriff's department, and he had murdered and attacked several women and young girls in the area where Singer Island Jane Doe had been found. If Schaefer did indeed kill Singer Island Jane Doe, he took his secrets to the grave after he was murdered by a fellow inmate whil in prison. In 2022, after the Palm Beach County sheriff's office teamed up with Othram Labs to perform genealogy on the DNA from Singer Island Jane Doe, they finally learned who she was; Susan Gale Poole. She had been reported missing from her Brower County trailer park in December, 1972 when she was 15 years old. Police are confident that she's the victim of Gerard John Schaefer, and in fact, he was responsible for the murder of another girl that lived in the same trailer park as Susan. Although it will likely never be established how she crossed paths with her killer, her family is relieved to have her remains so that they could give her a proper farewell. 'Singer Island Jane Doe' has her name back now; it's Susan Poole, and this is her story. This episode is sponsored by Masterclass. MasterClass is the streaming platform that makes it possible for anyone to watch or listen to hundreds of video lessons taught by 200+ of the world’s best. Whether it be in business and leadership, photography, cooking, writing, acting, music, sports and more, MasterClass delivers a world class online learning experience. Video lessons are available anytime, anywhere on your smartphone, personal computer, Apple TV and FireTV streaming media players. Listeners of DNA ID will receive a minimum of 15% off any annual membership of Masterclass. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 144 Angelica Ramirez *WARNING* This episode discusses the murder of a child. Listener discretion is advised. In 1994, ten year old Angelica Ramirez was snatched from a swap meet in Visalia, CA. Clues at the scene confirmed the worst fears of her mother, and the investigators. Angelica’s body was found two days later, more than 40 miles away. A sexual assault kit yielded male DNA, which would be used to eliminate not one, but two false confessors in her case. Angelica’s murder was just one of a series of child murders in the central valley in just a few years, and one of the few that remained unsolved. When IGG provided a name for her slayer, police had never heard of him – and what they learned about him was both disturbing and frustrating. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 143 Doe ID: 'Mentone John Doe' Derrick Burton *WARNING* This episode discusses the murder of a child. Listener discretion is advised. In October, 1991, a hunter in the area of Mentone, CA discovered a human skull. The skull was devoid of teeth and a mandible. Based on the size of the skull, it was estimated to be a child's. The San Bernardino County Sheriff's department searched the area for more remains but they didn't find any. However, they found a bag containing a child's clothing, and took it into evidence. An autopsy confirmed initial beliefs that the remains were that of a child; a young boy between 4 & 8 years old. A cause of death could not be determined. The authorities considered local missing persons cases, but didn't link the remains to any of those missing children, and the dead boy was referred to as 'Mentone John Doe'. It wasn't until decades later that the authorities turned to IGG to determine the identity of Mentone John Doe. He turned out to be, Derrick Burton. Incredibly, Derrick had been reported missing to the San Bernardino County Sheriff's dept when he was four years old by his mother Patricia Clark in 1991. How the agency failed to make the connection between Mentone John Doe, and Derrick Burton early on is a mystery. Derrick had gone missing while in the care of his stepfather; Christopher Hammond. Hammond did time for charges related to Derrick's abduction, but not his death. Sadly, it doesn't seem as if there is much movement in the case since Derrick was identified, or how much his death is being investigated. 'Mentone John Doe' now has his name back; it's Derrick Burton, and this is his story. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

Episode 142 Laura Kempton Part 2 of 2 This is the conclusion of the Laura Kempton case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now, and go back and listen to that part before listening to this one. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch