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This is Higgle: The B2B Sales Club Podcast, where we bring you actionable insights about sales RFPs, Sales Negotiations and difficult Procurement discussions. It's all about helping you win more deals, and hitting your sales quota. We talk to sales leaders, brand leaders and procurement leaders about lessons learnt on their journey to win more sales deals and get better negotiated outcomes. The podcast is hosted by Mike Lander, an ex procurement director and entrepreneur, talking to guests about their experiences - the good, the bad and the ugly. Please subscribe to get updates when new episodes are released.

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United Kingdom

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This is Higgle: The B2B Sales Club Podcast, where we bring you actionable insights about sales RFPs, Sales Negotiations and difficult Procurement discussions. It's all about helping you win more deals, and hitting your sales quota. We talk to sales leaders, brand leaders and procurement leaders about lessons learnt on their journey to win more sales deals and get better negotiated outcomes. The podcast is hosted by Mike Lander, an ex procurement director and entrepreneur, talking to guests about their experiences - the good, the bad and the ugly. Please subscribe to get updates when new episodes are released.

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English


Episodes
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Transformational Growth in the Age of AI Through Emotional Intelligence with Oya Mustafa

11/17/2025
How can emotional intelligence and cultural sensitivity transform your B2B sales strategy in a world dominated by automation? Joining the podcast today is Oya Mustafa, the Chief Growth Officer at Not Normal Group. We get into a deep discussion about transformative power of emotional intelligence in B2B sales, discussing how human-centric approaches can outshine the surging trend of AI. Oya passionately shares her insights on building trust through genuine human connections and the crucial role of emotional intelligence and cultural sensitivity in business development. We explore the paradigm shift from transactional to transformational growth, highlighting the importance of long-term relationship building over short-term sales metrics. Oya and I scrutinize the limitations of AI in fostering genuine connections, emphasizing the need for patience, authenticity, and consistent brand narratives. Our conversation explains the importance of strategic engagement that transcends quarterly targets, advocating for sustainable success through enduring trust. Topics covered during this episode include: Explore strategies for building lasting business relationships in the age of AI by listening to this enlightening episode! Oya Mustafa on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oya-mustafa-3144612b/

Duration:00:26:08

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The Secret Ingredients of Successful Brand Clarity with Ulli Appelbaum

11/10/2025
Are you ready to discover the magic of combining scientific insights with emotional connections in brand strategy? Ulli Appelbaum, Founder & Chief Strategy Officer at First The Trousers Then The Shoes, joins us in this episode to explore the nuanced world of brand strategy. As he shares his wealth of experience in creating brand clarity and emotional connections, we examine how the science of brand associations can elevate a business beyond just its logo, turning it into a series of memorable connections. From discussing the 95-5 rule to understanding how charisma and honesty foster genuine client relationships, Ulli offers incredibly valuable insights for anyone looking to master the craft of branding. Ulli later reveals the blend of science and creativity that fuels successful brand strategies. He introduces the fascinating concept of building brand predisposition for future buyers and emphasizes the importance of differentiation in a crowded marketplace. We also explore how creative strategies can be inspired by unique influences, and how charisma and honesty can lead to long-lasting partnerships, even if it means admitting when you're not the best fit for a project. Topics covered during this episode include: Listen to this episode for expert insights on building strong brand associations and learn why emotional resonance is key to winning over clients in a competitive market! Ulli Appelbaum on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ulliappelbaum/

Duration:00:30:35

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Transforming Conflict and Harnessing Curiosity for Better Deals with Andres Lares

11/3/2025
What secrets do expert negotiators use to transform conflicts into win-win situations? Andres Lares, Managing Partner of the Shapiro Negotiations Institute, joins us to share his wealth of negotiation experience in this episode. We explore the transformative power of empathy and emotional intelligence in achieving successful outcomes, as Andres emphasizes the importance of considering the other party's needs and transforming negotiations into collaborative efforts. By focusing on curiosity and the art of asking the right questions, we uncover strategies to build rapport and gather valuable insights, ultimately ensuring both parties walk away satisfied. We also talk about strategic collaboration, examining the dynamics between sales and procurement using models like the Kraljic matrix. We get into the importance of preparation and ethical conduct, discussing how understanding your BATNA can enhance leverage without sacrificing integrity. Through engaging examples, Andres also highlights the significance of trust and transparency. Topics covered during this episode include: Enhance your negotiation leverage and ethical standards by exploring the valuable insights shared in this conversation with an absolute expert! Andres Lares on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreslares/

Duration:00:25:54

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The Blueprint for Effective Business Development with Anna Stone

10/27/2025
Are you curious about the strategies that can turn a simple proposal into a winning formula for sustainable agency growth? We’re welcoming Anna Stone today, Head of Growth at True and a veteran in business development, to unravel the evolution of agency growth strategies from the days of cold calling to the modern era of video calls and personalized outreach. Anna shares her insights on how meaningful client engagement can transcend hard selling, emphasizing the importance of building genuine relationships. We dig into the necessity of adapting to new communication methods, while still maintaining the core principle of understanding client motivations. Anna and I explore the art of crafting a compelling business growth strategy, outlining the critical steps of identifying your business's core purpose and setting measurable goals to ensure sustainable growth. Our conversation highlights the significance of knowing your ideal clients and creating a clear, jargon-free elevator pitch that showcases your unique strengths. Finally, we uncover the intricacies of proposal writing, stressing the need to balance credibility with a warm human touch. Topics covered during this episode include: How Anna started her career at a cold calling agency, and how that space has evolved.How the tools for cold outreach have evolved whilst the importance of relationship building remains.How understanding the "why" behind client decisions can tailor effective sales strategies.Why transparent communication is essential in overcoming artificial processes in pitching.How to define your business's core purpose and set measurable goals for sustained growth.Why recognizing your ideal clients helps in crafting a clear sales message.How to create engaging proposal documents that utilize credibility and personalization.Why establishing credibility early is crucial in proposal documents to secure agency growth.How to use relevant case studies to highlight agency distinctiveness in proposals.Why relationship building remains a core principle in modern business development.How asking the right questions uncovers client motivations and enhances competitive advantage.Why having a distinctive agency identity contributes to long-term client relationships. Explore how modern communication methods can enhance your client connections and drive agency growth! Anna Stone on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annastoneis/

Duration:00:35:17

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The Power of Patience and Personalization with Brooke Pinkney

10/20/2025
What if listening is the ultimate skill missing from your sales toolkit? Brooke Pinkney, Managing Director at Broadley Speaking, joins us today to challenge the pitfalls of short-term thinking in sales strategies and emphasize the importance of patience and long-term planning. Brooke also examines the misconception that quick-fix solutions can resolve the complexities of significant B2B purchases involving multiple decision-makers. We discuss the need for businesses to accurately diagnose their sales challenges and engage in meaningful interactions over extended sales cycles, avoiding the trap of getting lost in endless planning. Shifting our focus to the realm of personalization, we explore how authenticity and genuine human connections are paramount in today’s AI-driven sales landscape. Brooke advocates for prioritizing a select few prospects, allowing for deeper research and personalized outreach that resonates. We stress the critical importance of listening and turning sales interactions into conversations where prospects feel heard and valued. Topics covered during this episode include: Why success in B2B sales requires patience and a long-term, thoughtful approach.How short sprint campaigns often fail to address complex sales journeys.Why diagnosing fundamental sales problems is crucial for effective strategy development.How personalization and human connection are vital in today's AI-driven sales environment.How listening transforms sales interactions into meaningful conversations.Why building trust with senior buyers in remote settings is essential for lasting relationships.How LinkedIn Sales Navigator and ChatGPT can assist in researching and understanding prospects.Why authenticity and genuine interest are key to fostering trust and rapport.Why being proactive rather than reactive is vital in responding to sales opportunities. Discover how patience and personalization can revolutionize your B2B sales strategy! Brooke Pinkney on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/brooke-p-09879084

Duration:00:26:37

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Harnessing Vulnerability and Rapport to Boost Sales Credibility with David Meade

10/13/2025
What simple daily practices can dramatically boost your sales success and negotiation outcomes? We’re getting deep into the power of mindset and authenticity in this week’s episode. Joining me is the insightful David Meade, an expert in high-performing teams, who sheds light on how small, daily changes can significantly impact sales outcomes. We discuss the importance of adopting a growth mindset to enhance openness and collaboration, which are essential for finding common ground in sales conversations. With reference to expert studies, we explore how building rapport before negotiations can boost trust and lead to more successful outcomes. To transition from salesperson to trusted advisor, we check out how to build a personal brand and thought leadership in today's attention economy. We highlight the importance of balancing competence with authenticity, and emphasize how vulnerability, through the pratfall effect, can enhance credibility and trustworthiness. Later, David gives tips on public speaking, such as the "Batman effect" to boost confidence and ensure your audience retains key takeaways. Topics covered during this episode include: How adopting a growth mindset enhances openness, collaboration, and success in sales conversations.Why building rapport before negotiations can increase trust and successful outcomes.How small daily changes, like arriving early, can improve sales efforts significantly.Why balancing competence with authenticity in sales can enhance credibility and trustworthiness.How acknowledging minor imperfections through the pratfall effect can boost relatability.Why becoming a trusted advisor involves building a personal brand and thought leadership.How the "Batman effect" can boost confidence during public speaking engagements.Why interactive reflection helps audiences retain key takeaways from presentations.How thorough research and human connection differentiate salespeople in today's attention economy.How practical advice on mindset, rapport, and authenticity supports navigating a dynamic business environment. Elevate your sales and public speaking skills by exploring the dynamic techniques discussed in this engaging podcast episode! David Meade on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmeadelive/

Duration:00:34:14

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Mastering AI for Business Growth: Strategy, Compliance, and Innovation with Sumeet Vermani

10/6/2025
Are you prepared to tackle the challenges of AI governance and leverage its potential for innovation in digital marketing? In this episode we sit down with Sumeet Vermani, Founder & Chief Marketing Officer of SKV Consulting, to unlock the secrets of implementing AI in business. We explore the vital need for aligning AI strategies with broader business objectives, going beyond the mere trendiness of technology. Sumeet shares how AI adoption is prompting cultural shifts in organizations, influenced by platforms like Google. Through Sumeet’s first-hand experiences, we emphasize the importance of strategic planning to ensure AI initiatives contribute to long-term business success. As we navigate the challenges of AI governance and compliance, particularly in light of EU regulations, the discussion emphasizes the critical role of precision in regulatory navigation. Sumeet and I highlight the competitive advantage of proprietary data, cautioning against its misuse in AI training. Sumeet shares his thoughts on maximizing AI's potential in the digital space, urging businesses to innovate and experiment with next-gen SEO strategies like AEO and GEO. Topics covered during this episode include: Why AI adoption necessitates a cultural shift toward outsourcing thinking.How strategic planning ensures AI initiatives support long-term business success.Why navigating AI governance and compliance is challenging, especially with complex EU regulations.How organizations must align with compliance standards to mitigate jurisdictional risks.Why proprietary data should be protected as a competitive edge in AI training.How to avoid misuse of customer data in AI deployment to protect brand integrity.How businesses can maximize AI potential in digital marketing by embracing AEO and GEO.Why it's important to start small and solve specific business problems with AI solutions.How the rapid adoption of AI technology is driven by user-friendly interfaces.Why critical thinking remains vital despite the convenience of AI-driven solutions.How effective AI deployment requires understanding its broader impact on business operations.Why it's important to integrate AI tools with existing technology to improve efficiency. Discover how to leverage AI for long-term success while mastering compliance and innovation in the ever-evolving digital marketing space! Sumeet Vermani on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sumeetvermani/

Duration:00:33:31

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Mastering USA Market Entry Through Strategic Vision and Leadership with Jennifer Quigley-Jones

9/29/2025
How can a UK-based business successfully navigate the complexities of expanding into the competitive US market without losing its foothold at home? Today we’re welcoming back Jennifer Quigley-Jones, the Founder and CEO of Digital Voices, as she talks about boldly expanding her UK-based business into the vibrant US market. She shares her strategic decision to reinvest $400,000 of retained profits, choosing long-term growth over personal dividends. We also learn about her innovative approaches to scaling operations and refining sales strategies within the ad agency industry. Jennifer’s story is not just about financial commitment, but also about empowering her senior leadership team to drive innovation and focus on growth. Jennifer offers valuable cultural insights in contrasting the UK’s business environment with that of the US. Her experiences highlight the importance of trust, creativity, and boldness in business expansion. She takes us through her mindset regarding the navigation of new markets and the dedication required to succeed in a competitive landscape. Topics covered during this episode include: Why reinvesting $400,000 of retained profits was crucial for Jennifer’s US expansion.How Jenny's strategic leadership and empowering her team enabled business growth.Why networking and chance encounters, like at Soho House, are vital in new markets.How cultural differences between UK and US markets influence business strategies.Why long-term consultative relationships and unique marketing events build trust with clients.How Jenny’s approach contrasts aggressive sales tactics with value-driven, relationship-focused strategies.Why attending and hosting events like South by Southwest fosters business connections.How leveraging personal experiences, such as a helicopter ride, exemplifies bold business moves.Why founders should prepare thoroughly before entering the US market for sustainable growth.How investing in a strong senior leadership team allows founders to focus on innovation.Why offering guaranteed results builds trust with US clients in competitive markets.How setting realistic hiring budgets is crucial for US business operations. Listen now to explore the cultural nuances of US business expansion and how creative marketing tactics can elevate your brand's success! Digital Voices: https://www.digitalvoices.com/ Jennifer on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-quigley-jones/ Jennifer on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jenqj/ Jennifer on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@j.quigleyjones

Duration:00:29:13

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Strategic Partnerships and Success in the Third Sector with Jenny Kitchen

9/22/2025
How can agencies build trust and articulate value to excel in complex third-sector negotiations? Jenny Kitchen, the CEO of Yoyo Design, is with us today to explore the transformative journey of a digital agency evolving into a leader in the third sector. She explains how Yoyo Design strategically partnered with technology like Umbraco and collaborated with organizations such as the RNLI to fuel their growth and establish a strong foothold in the sector. Jenny shares personal stories from her time in rural France, which have shaped her leadership approach, emphasizing creativity, strategic partnerships, and intentional growth. Her insights reveal how agencies can carve out their niche in competitive markets by embracing early engagement, collaboration, and digital sophistication. Jenny opens up about the importance of building trust and articulating value, especially in complex negotiations within the third sector. She discusses the lessons Yoyo Design has learned from their journey to B Corp certification, including tracking conversion rates and refining their qualification strategies. We also touch on the nuances of negotiating contracts in the private versus public sectors and the role of digital sophistication in aligning business strategies. Topics covered during this episode include: How Yoyo Design transitioned from sector-agnostic to a leader in the third sector.Why strategic partnerships with Umbraco fueled Yoyo Design's growth.How collaboration with the RNLI marked a pivotal shift for Yoyo Design.Why trust and articulating value are crucial in third-sector negotiations.How becoming a certified B Corp influenced Yoyo Design’s market opportunities.Why tracking conversion rates and qualifying leads maximizes win rates and reduces effort.How aligning digital projects with business strategies requires clear communication of value.Why building trust leads to better negotiation outcomes and client relationships.How intentional niching and strategic alliances drive growth and competitive advantage.Why digital agencies should focus on niche markets to improve conversion rates and storytelling.How early stakeholder involvement in the third sector streamlines project delivery and decision-making. Join us to explore the journey of evolving a digital agency into a third sector leader and gain actionable insights for your growth strategy! Jenny Kitchen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-kitchen/

Duration:00:25:58

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Thriving in the B2B World Through Powerful Referral Expertise with Tom Poynter

9/15/2025
What strategies can agencies implement to harness the power of referrals and retention for sustainable growth? Tom Poynter is a seasoned industry expert who has honed his skills at prestigious companies and is currently Managing Director at Keel. In this discussion, we get into the importance of niche specialization in the competitive landscape of UK agencies, where 25,000 entities vie for attention. Tom argues that being a jack-of-all-trades isn't enough anymore. We explore how agencies can thrive by focusing on specific sectors and developing a deep understanding of client needs. We also tackle the specifics of sustainable agency growth, highlighting the power of referrals and client retention. Tom shares personal experiences and strategies that emphasize viewing each client as a potential ambassador. By nurturing relationships and delivering excellent work, agencies can build a network of advocacy, reducing the constant pursuit of new business. Later, we discuss the shift towards multimedia storytelling and impactful positioning, essential for engaging today’s B2B buyers. Topics covered during this episode include: How specialization is crucial for B2B agencies to differentiate in a competitive market.Why B2B buyers prioritize expertise over general offerings in agency services.How niche focus helps agencies thrive by understanding specific client sectors deeply.Why referrals and client retention are vital for sustainable agency growth.How delivering excellent work can transform clients into ambassadors for the agency.Why multimedia storytelling is essential for engaging modern B2B buyers.How impactful positioning and content strategies maintain agency distinctiveness.Why thought leadership and trade events are key for continued business growth.How agency evolution and strategic adjustments drive high-impact creative work.Why clear brand and communication alignment enhance client relationships and sales efforts. Tune in to discover how niche specialization can revolutionize your B2B agency's growth strategy in a competitive market! Tom Poynter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-poynter-571b7a/

Duration:00:31:27

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Charting a Purposeful Path in Business Development with Becky Hipkiss

9/8/2025
Are you ready to discover how aligning purpose-driven initiatives with business goals can elevate your marketing campaigns? Becky Hipkiss, the New Business Director at We Are Futures, joins us today as she shares her journey from client services to becoming a standout figure in business development. She opens up about her unique experiences, including her side hustle as a micro-influencer, where she enjoys perks like gifted holidays without focusing on monetization. We dive into her knack for strategic deal-making and her award-winning achievements, like being named the BD100 Rising Star, which have sparked reflections on her career path. We hear about intriguing concepts like "pester power," exploring how the influence of young people can shape marketing strategies beyond just consumer products. Becky provides insightful commentary on the evolving landscape of business strategies, emphasizing the significance of corporate social responsibility and diversity and inclusion. As traditional procurement processes fade, she highlights the importance of co-creation and personalized outreach in forming strategic partnerships. Topics covered during this episode include: Why children's influence, or "pester power," can be significant in shaping marketing strategies.How aligning marketing strategies with business goals ensures campaigns are purposeful and profitable.Why corporate social responsibility is vital in evolving business strategies.How agencies can benefit from co-creation and risk-sharing with clients for mutual growth.Why personalized outreach is crucial for successful business development in agencies.How young people's perspectives are essential in crafting impactful marketing strategies.Why long-term, purpose-driven initiatives are necessary for achieving measurable business outcomes.How Becky balances her professional role with her passion as a micro-influencer.Why purpose-led agencies often undervalue their potential for driving brand advocacy and profit.Why traditional procurement processes are becoming less effective compared to strategic partnerships. Join us as we dive into the world of corporate social responsibility and learn how to co-create and risk-share with clients for meaningful outcomes! Becky Hipkiss on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/beckyhipkiss

Duration:00:31:25

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Elevate Your Negotiation Game Using These 6 Principles with Saad a Saad

9/1/2025
How can embracing friction in sales negotiations unlock more creative and effective deal-making strategies? Saad a Saad is a negotiation consultant with Corporate Visions and the author of In the Lead: Mastering Your Sales Negotiation. We explore the art of negotiation beyond mere price discussions in this episode, focusing on the nuances that differentiate sales contexts from others. Saad shares invaluable insights on how to present justifiable pricing, build strong client relationships from the get-go, and employ strategic frameworks like the Kraljic matrix for B2B success. Whether you're a seasoned negotiator or just beginning your journey, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge to enhance your negotiation prowess. We examine the balance of trust and friction in negotiations, revealing how a bit of strategic tension can spur creativity and innovation. We also discuss the importance of positioning oneself as a valuable supplier and how to articulate value effectively to avoid being perceived as a commodity. Through Saad's six principles for successful negotiations, we uncover the significance of setting ambitious goals and maintaining logical propositions. Topics covered during this episode include: How Saad distinguishes sales negotiation from other contexts, emphasizing justifiable pricing strategies.Why strategic frameworks like the Kraljic matrix are needed for B2B success.How early client interactions set expectations and build strong relationships.Why balancing trust and strategic friction enhances negotiation outcomes.How friction fosters creativity and challenges assumptions in sales discussions.How being perceived as a unique supplier impacts negotiation dynamics.Why discounting without value exchange affects perceptions of worth.How to maintain logical propositions and ambitious goals in complex negotiations.Why friction is critical for finding the right agreement, not just any agreement.How to strategically prepare for negotiations with well-defined objectives.Why being compelling and trustworthy is crucial in B2B sales negotiations. Power up your negotiation skills and unlock B2B success with strategic insights and frameworks discussed in this must-listen episode! Saad a Saad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saadasaad/

Duration:00:24:29

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What Clients Actually Want: Shocking Insights From the Agency-Client Benchmark Report 2025 with Remeny Armitage

8/25/2025
What are the surprising findings about client awareness of agency services, and how can agencies bridge this gap? In this episode, I sit down with Remeny Armitage once again, Founder of Brilliant and Human, to discuss the intricacies of client-agency relationships. Remeny's extensive research reveals a surprising gap: 40% of agencies acknowledge that their clients might not fully understand the breadth of services they offer. We get into the significance of genuine engagement and human connection in business, exploring how these elements can transform success and client retention. Remeny also provides insight on the role of AI and powerful strategies to enhance agency-client dynamics. We later uncover strategies that shift agency-client interactions from transactional to relationship-driven. This includes drawing fascinating parallels with the consulting industry, highlighting how building commercial confidence within agency teams can position them as trusted advisors. This not only enhances client loyalty, but also opens doors for growth. From refining onboarding and communication processes to moving from hourly billing to value-based engagements, this episode reveals all! Topics covered during this episode include: Why authentic engagement and humanity are pivotal in client retention and success.How looking at similarities in the consulting industry can help agencies become trusted advisors.Why refining onboarding and communication processes enhance the client experience.How transitioning from hourly billing to value-oriented engagements benefits both agencies and clients.Why agencies should market their services effectively to existing clients.How proactive strategic thinking and challenging client assumptions drive loyalty.Why building commercial confidence within agency teams leads to better client interactions.Why agencies need to demonstrate human value amidst AI advancements in the industry.How improving agency-client dynamics can unlock new revenue streams and opportunities. Listen now to uncover the surprising dynamics of client-agency partnerships and learn how to become a trusted advisor! Remeny Armitage on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/remeny

Duration:00:25:12

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Unlocking Growth Through Innovative Business Models with Caroline Johnson

8/18/2025
What are the critical steps for aligning leadership and embracing change to drive business transformation in the marketing industry? This week I sit down with Caroline Johnson, Co-Founder of The Business Model Company, to get an inside look at her groundbreaking approach to transforming business models in the global marketing services industry. Caroline shares her extensive experience in evolving traditional service-centric models into productized strategies that foster sustainable growth. We explore the intricacies of creating, delivering, and capturing value, and discuss the importance of aligning these elements within an effective operating model. Caroline's insights are particularly relevant for creative agencies facing declining revenue models and low net margins, as she outlines innovative strategies to optimize value creation and adopt new pricing models. She emphasizes the importance of leadership alignment, recognizing limitations, and embracing change as essential components of business transformation. Her advice for agency leaders focuses on redefining creative services and establishing multiple 'front doors' to cater to diverse client needs, moving beyond traditional campaign-based services Topics covered during this episode include: Clear definitions of business model, operating model, and productization.Why transitioning from service-centric to productized strategies can enhance value in marketing services.Why mid-size agencies face financial challenges with declining revenue models and low net margins.How repackaging services into distinct fronts optimizes value while preserving creativity.Why adopting new pricing models can help agencies turn challenges into financial opportunities.How leadership alignment and embracing change are critical for future success in agencies.How creating multiple 'front doors' allows agencies to cater to diverse client needs.Why shifting to authentic, program-led models offers flexibility and innovation for agencies.Incorrect assumptions some agencies have towards changing their business model.How varying pricing models can enhance financial viability in new service offerings. Listen now to explore how you can redefine your agency's business model for long-term success and financial viability! Caroline Johnson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-johnson-tbmc/

Duration:00:33:25

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The Secrets of Success in Niche Marketing Revealed with Rob Dando

8/11/2025
How did this marketing agency transform its approach to become a leading expert in the engineering and manufacturing sector during the pandemic? In this episode we’re welcoming Rob Dando, MD & Co-Founder of FINALLY Agency, to get insights from his fascinating journey that took him from web development to becoming a leading figure in niche marketing for engineering and manufacturing. We explore how FINALLY Agency's strategic pivot during the COVID-19 pandemic allowed them to leverage Rob's technical background and family connections to become trusted advisors within their niche. Through his impactful stories, Rob emphasizes the importance of aligning personal interests with business strategies, and the critical role that genuine relationships play in business success. As we get into the intricacies of niche marketing, Rob shares innovative tactics like transforming trade show booths into eye-catching bars to spark curiosity among attendees. He discusses the strategic use of LinkedIn to connect with the UK manufacturing industry, as well as the power of speaking at industry events to build brand authority. We also touch on the importance of balancing traditional methods with digital strategies, particularly in family-owned engineering businesses transitioning to new leadership. Rob also underscores the significance of authenticity and trust, drawing on timeless wisdom from his 99-year-old grandfather that "people buy from people." Topics covered during this episode include: How Rob transitioned from a web developer to a marketing expert in engineering.How FINALLY Agency's strategic pivot during the pandemic enhanced its reputation in the engineering sector.Why building trust and crafting strategies are crucial in niche marketing for engineering.How trade shows and LinkedIn have been incredibly valuable for Rob’s business.Why genuine relationships and understanding technical needs are vital for client retention.Why balancing traditional methods with digital strategies is essential for growth, especially in family-owned businesses.How strategic changes, like simply updating a LinkedIn profile, can aid in niching and personal branding.Deciding where to put your budget in the context of trade shows.Why it's important to focus on a niche market while remaining open to aligned opportunities.How long it took FINALLY Agency to get their first inbound lead and what it demonstrates.Why Rob believes niching is now essential, not just a “nice to have.” Harness the power of niching down for business success and learn the art of building genuine relationships in this compelling episode! Rob Dando on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertdando/

Duration:00:33:18

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How an Influencer Marketing Agency Can Guarantee Results with Jennifer Quigley-Jones, Part 1

8/4/2025
How did a mere £500 and a unique perspective lead to a groundbreaking influencer marketing agency? In this first of two parts, we’re welcoming Jennifer Quigley-Jones, the founder and CEO of Digital Voices. She takes us through her incredible journey from working on refugee economic integration to establishing a thriving agency with just £500. We examine the world of influencer marketing, examining its evolution and how it has become an essential part of brand strategies, particularly for major players that work with Jennifer such as Unilever, PepsiCo, and Adobe. Jennifer shares how influencers are pivotal in creating genuine, hyper-local connections that resonate with modern consumers, transforming traditional marketing channels. We also explore the intricacies of Jennifer's business model, which is focused on delivering guaranteed results and ensuring client satisfaction. From landing Rolls-Royce as a client to navigating the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic, she opens up about the trials and triumphs of growing an agency from the ground up. She shares her insights on innovation, thought leadership, and the importance of transparent communication in building lasting client relationships. Topics covered during this episode include: Why influencer marketing is becoming a significant part of brand strategies, proven by Jennifer’s clients.How authenticity and human connection drive consumer engagement in modern marketing.Why Jennifer emphasizes a results-driven business model by prioritizing client satisfaction.How landing Rolls-Royce as a client marked a breakthrough in Jennifer's journey.Why traditional agency norms are challenged by Jennifer's approach, which guarantees results.How Jennifer's agency leverages transparent communication to build trust with clients.Why the US market is considered open and welcoming to new agencies like Jennifer's.How COVID-19 impacted agency growth and accelerated changes in the marketing landscape.How Jennifer uses innovation and entrepreneurship inspired by diverse fields to drive success.Why sharing challenges and fostering genuine connections leads to sustained business success. Discover the transformative power of influencer marketing and entrepreneurial resilience by checking out this insightful episode now! Digital Voices: https://www.digitalvoices.com/ Jennifer on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-quigley-jones/ Jennifer on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jenqj/ Jennifer on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@j.quigleyjones

Duration:00:27:12

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How Salesforge used AI to Grow to $3 Million ARR in Under a Year with Frank Sondors

7/28/2025
What if you could scale your sales pipeline with minimal staff and maximum efficiency using AI? I sit down with tech sales expert Frank Sondors this week to explore how AI and lean teams are reshaping the B2B sales landscape. Frank, with his extensive background at Google and various B2B SaaS companies, shares his journey of building efficient sales pipelines without the traditional large sales teams. He challenges the old-school sales model that equates success with team size and reveals how he scaled his company, Salesforge, to $3 million ARR in just 11 months. We dig into the nitty-gritty of scaling a business with minimal staffing, discussing the strategic use of AI agents and an innovative “traffic light” system for performance evaluation. Frank reveals the secrets behind how he scored 100 meetings a week while leveraging every available channel to create a robust growth strategy. Our conversation highlights the power of SEO, AI-generated content, and personalized messaging in outbound sales. We wrap up with three potent paths for business growth, advocating for a blended approach that maximizes the strengths of AI, self-management, and strategic partnerships. Topics covered during this episode include: Why traditional sales models equating success with team size are challenged by Frank.How Frank scaled to $3 million ARR in 11 months and now sits at about 40 employees.Why a culturally diverse workforce and AI agents are crucial for efficiency and growth.How the “traffic light” system can be used for performance evaluation in fast-paced environments.Why agencies are preferred over individual hiring for specialized tasks to maintain profitability.How first impressions in B2B sales can be influenced by website aesthetics.How Frank managed to get 100 meetings weekly using channels like LinkedIn.Why SEO, AI-generated content, and personalized messaging revolutionize outbound sales.How an AI sales development representative is redefining the sales landscape at Salesforge.How a four-pillar framework can assess employee performance in sales teams.Why maintaining productivity in a rapidly growing business is vital.How a company's strategic product strategy can unlock more revenue. Discover cutting-edge strategies to revolutionize your B2B sales with AI and lean teams by tuning into this transformative episode with an outstanding scaling expert! Frank Sondors on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/franksondors

Duration:00:28:54

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Secrets of Successful Upselling and Strong Client Relationships with Jon Peppiatt, Part 2

7/21/2025
Could the evolving landscape of marketing procurement be the key to mastering the new frontier in sales? We’re welcoming back Jon Peppiatt today, former Chairman at BBH London, for the second of a two-part episode. We explore the intricacies of AI-enabled service delivery, plus innovative pricing models that align with both agency and client goals. Jon sheds light on the historical challenges and successes of performance-related pay models and explains the bravery required in financial negotiations. We also emphasize the importance of crafting compelling commercial narratives that highlight the mutual benefits in agency-client relationships. Later, we turn our focus to the evolving landscape of agency models and procurement. We contrast the strengths of large networks against independent agencies, and the strategic choices involved in content distribution across diverse channels. Our discussion of agency leadership dynamics and the significance of the freelance model reveals the importance of aligning agency values with employee expectations. Topics covered during this episode include: How innovative pricing models can align agency objectives with client goals in B2B sales.Why performance-related pay models face challenges despite their potential benefits.AI-enabled service delivery and how it is reshaping agency pricing structures.Why agencies must tell compelling narratives to demonstrate their value.How modern marketing procurement requires strategic content distribution across multiple channels.Why the role of pitch consultants is growing in helping clients navigate agency landscapes.How agencies can benefit from integrating services within large companies.Why the freelance model is becoming more and more popular in agency operations.How fostering an inclusive culture can enhance business success for agencies.Why bringing CEOs from adjacent industries can offer fresh perspectives in agency leadership.Why agencies need a proactive talent strategy to retain and nurture future leaders. Elevate your approach to agency management and client relations by exploring the cutting-edge insights shared in this episode! Jon Peppiatt on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jon-peppiatt

Duration:00:24:23

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The 5 Steps to Immediately Increase Your Win Rates with Harry Kendlbacher

7/14/2025
Get ready to learn the 5 transformative principles that can elevate your B2B sales performance to new heights! Harry Kendlbacher, CEO & Managing Partner of Global Performance Group, has a wealth of experience and innovative strategies to enhance B2B sales, especially in unpredictable economic climates. Together in this episode, we explore the nuances of decision-making in sales, emphasizing the hidden costs of inaction. Harry reveals the 5 principles that he has directly seen increase win rates, providing a fresh perspective on what it truly means to drive high performance in sales. Continuing on, we further uncover the art of crafting effective B2B sales strategies and negotiation skills. Harry and I dissect the critical elements of deal qualification, along with the importance of aligning with an ideal customer profile. We challenge the myth that negotiation is merely a final step, showcasing that early strategic agreements can significantly boost win rates. Our conversation then shifts towards transforming sales tactics into strategic client engagements, stressing the importance of urgency and understanding decision making drivers. Harry also shares valuable insights on mentoring salespeople in the world of remote work. Topics covered during this episode include: Why addressing the cost of inaction is crucial in boosting sales cycles.How effective deal qualification should align with the ideal customer profile.Why negotiation should not be viewed as just the final step of the sales process.How key agreements can transform sales processes from robotic routines to strategic engagements.Why sales teams should focus on understanding what really drives decision making.How mentoring salespeople in a remote-first environment can enhance their competence and confidence.Why practicing negotiation skills is vital for building salespeople's effectiveness.How the Kraljic matrix can help in understanding supplier positions during negotiations.Why moving beyond traditional sales methods is essential for sales success today.Why avoiding premature problem-solving can lead to richer client discussions. Don’t miss the secrets shared in this episode on how to drastically increase your win rates! Harry Kendlbacher on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harry-kendlbacher-77a9659/

Duration:00:30:23

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Harnessing the Extreme Power of B2B Event Management with Jade Howgrave-Graham and Lucy Francis

7/7/2025
What strategies can still lead to fruitful in-person event outcomes in challenging economic times? I’m thrilled to have both Jade Howgrave-Graham and Lucy Francis from Lemon Lane join me to explore their impactful business in the B2B events industry. They tell us all about how their personal passions have uniquely shaped their professional journey, particularly in navigating the shift toward virtual and hybrid event formats accelerated by the pandemic. Their insights reveal how these changes have challenged the industry to rethink event planning and execution in today’s complex economic landscape. We discuss the critical elements of creating impactful and sustainable events, stressing the importance of understanding audience perceptions and the role of procurement in building trust and maximizing value. Jade and Lucy also share captivating stories from past events, showcasing how creativity and strategic planning can overcome challenges. Perhaps most importantly, they also explain what metrics to look at to determine if an event was successful. Topics covered during this episode include: Why Jade and Lucy’s personal passions have been essential in shaping their approach to event management.How the pandemic accelerated the shift to virtual and hybrid event formats.Why aligning event goals with audience perceptions is crucial for selecting effective formats.How sustainability and logistical factors influence decisions in event planning.Why early procurement involvement builds trust and maximizes event value.How word-of-mouth and referrals are vital for client acquisition in Jade and Lucy’s industry.Why credibility and thought leadership are key in evolving sales strategies.How travel experiences emotionally impact individuals and affect the event industry.Strategies the two used to overcome imposter syndrome.How technology advancements have transformed expectations and delivery in the events industry.Why measuring event impact is critical for justifying expenses, especially in a tough economy. Jump into the evolving world of B2B events and learn how to navigate client acquisition and procurement strategies for maximum impact! Jade on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jadeaustin Lucy on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/lucyfrancislemonlane

Duration:00:34:47