Kratom Sobriety

Recently, we've had a trend of welcoming back old guests mostly to celebrate anniversary milestones but in Elliot's case, he is returning to warn about the risk of relapse. After being almost off kratom for three years - June 2022 to March 2025 - Elliot tried 7-OH during a stressful time in his life. After about 9 months, and getting up to 2,000 mg at a cost of $300 day at his extreme, he is now back on track. Elliot's first appearance in May 2023: https://kratomsobriety.podbean.com/e/2-interview-with-elliot/ Checkout the new 12-step group focused on kratom: Home | Kratom Anonymous https://www.kratom-anonymous.org/ WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Kratom was banned in Connecticut and Louisiana this year, as well as in scores of cities. Ohio and California, two big states, are taking significant actions to crack down on kratom in 2025. What are the alternatives? This episode explores a middle-ground approach to kratom regulation that rejects both total bans and weak, industry-written rules. It examines six common-sense protections, including point-of-sale education, clear medical warnings, behind-the-counter sales, age verification for online purchases, naloxone availability, and strict limits on high-potency extracts. The goal is to make kratom use safer by offering pre-purchase digital counselling, reducing impulsive purchases, protecting youth, and limiting the most addictive and dangerous products while preserving adult access to lower-risk leaf forms. READ MORE: https://kratomsobriety.com/f/middle-ground-kratom-regulations WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Jacob and Lily discuss how the hosts let guests tell their story from their point of view, and as a podcast we are not able to vet people before they are interviewed. Ramey celebrates two years off kratom with Natalie. To connect with the meetings discussed in the interview, please visit: https://kratomquitters.com/ WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Episode focused on quitting kratom with a lockbox as a tool. In the interview this week, Gen-Xer Thomas (long-time primarily a powder user with many attempted quits) describes the challenge as: "Addiction lies to you in your own voice". Lockbox links (like always we don't get any commissions if you buy one): https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/style/lockable-box-container.html https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/home-products/g35902030/top-time-locking-containers https://www.thekitchensafe.com/ A rough estimate of Thomas' end of day dose before he quit: Three heaping tablespoons of kratom powder ≈ 18–24 grams. Here is how that breaks down: A) 1 level tablespoon of kratom powder is usually about 5–7 grams B) A heaping tablespoon is typically 6–8 grams C) 3 heaping tablespoons → 6–8 g × 3 = 18–24 g Kratom powder density varies by grind, moisture, and how loosely it is scooped. "Heaping” is very subjective. Some heaps are modest, others are piled high. Volume measures are unreliable for kratom. A digital scale is the only accurate way to know dose. 18–24 grams is considered a very high dose for most people and is well into a range associated with dependence, tolerance escalation, and withdrawal risk. WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Episode focused on 7-OH. Dr. Stanciu's credentials: https://geiselmed.dartmouth.edu/faculty/facultydb/view.php/?uid=7021 Article Charlie & Jazz discuss about 7-OH potency in guinea pig intestines: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320505008167 FDA document Dr. Stancui refers to: https://www.fda.gov/media/187900/download WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Melanie (episode 110 from January 2025) returns to celebrate a year off 7-OH (quit date October 27, 2024). She is one of our first guests to discuss getting addicted specifically to 7-hydroxymitragynine products. Melanie also did not have any previous history of disordered substance use prior to this addiction. In follow-up questions after the interview, she texted Charlie the following responses - Melanie: Several Statement Clarifications & Sources from Episode A. Charlie refers to 7-OH being “13 times more potent than morphine” The often-cited idea that 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) is “~13 times more potent than morphine” comes from receptor-level and animal data, not direct human dose equivalence. It refers to higher potency at the mu-opioid receptor and stronger analgesic effects in preclinical models. Source: Obeng S. et al. 7-Hydroxymitragynine Is an Active Metabolite of Mitragynine and a Key Mediator of Its Analgesic Effects. ACS Central Science, 2019. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acscentsci.9b00141 B. Melanie and Charlie talk about 7-OH’s “half-life of 3 hours” Human pharmacokinetic data show that 7-OH has a relatively short half-life (on the order of a few hours, depending on dosing and conditions), so “around three hours” is a reasonable simplification for listeners. Source: Obeng S. et al. Human Mitragynine and 7-Hydroxymitragynine Pharmacokinetics after Oral Dosing of a Mitragynine-Rich Kratom Extract. Molecules, 2024; 29(5):984. https://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/29/5/984 C. Melanie says “it’s basically like heroin / legal heroin” This reflects Melanie’s personal subjective experience with high-potency 7-OH extract products. While 7-OH acts on opioid receptors and can cause dependence and withdrawal, kratom alkaloids differ from heroin in chemical structure, potency, and overdose profile. Source: Gorelick DA. Kratom: Substance of Abuse or Therapeutic Plant? Psychiatric Clinics of North America, 2022; 45(3):415–430. https://www.psych.theclinics.com/article/S0193-953X(22)00027-2/fulltext D. Charlie and Melanie discuss “synthetic kratom” Kratom leaves naturally contain mitragynine, and after drying and oxidation, trace amounts of 7-OH. Many 7-OH products contain synthetic or semi-synthetic analogs not found in the plant. These products can be far stronger than traditional kratom powder and carry different risks. Source: Prevete E. et al. A Preliminary Inventory of Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa) Products and Vendors on the Darknet and Cryptomarkets. Journal of Psychoactive Drugs, 2024; 56(4):485–495. https://doi.org/10.1080/02791072.2023.2242361 E. Charlie compares 7-OH as “the cocaine of coca” This analogy is meant to illustrate the difference between a traditional plant product and its purified, concentrated alkaloid such as 7-OH. Coca leaves contain low levels of cocaine alkaloids and have historically been used in relatively mild ways, while cocaine is a chemically isolated, highly potent derivative. By analogy, ultra-potent 7-OH kratom extracts/synthetics are to kratom leaf what cocaine is to coca leaf: a conceptual comparison, not a direct pharmacological equivalence. Source: Naranjo PL. Social Function of Coca in Pre-Columbian America. Journal of Ethnopharmacology, 1981; 3(2–3):161–172. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0378874181900520 WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A...

Charlie introduces Rosa as a new cohost (episode #54 used the alias Sofia). In the interview, Natalie sits down with Stewart, a husband, father of three, and self-employed handyman from Mesa, Arizona, who is celebrating one year of sobriety from kratom. Stewart shares his candid story of how kratom entered his life, how his use escalated, and the impact it had on his health, family, and sense of purpose. He got up to 80 grams per day, tapered down, and used a faith-based 12-step program and help of his family to quit kratom. WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Jacob and Jazz talk about the growing presence of kratom extract products in stores, concerns about their sale, and efforts to offer healthier alternatives. In this week's interview, Jazz chats with Matt to discuss the progress he has made since his appearance on Episode #98. Matt shares new insights from his recovery journey and explains how his QuitKit product has become a valuable resource not only for himself, but also for others seeking support. Try Quit Kit – Backed by Science, Built for You https://tryquitkit.com/ Scientists Identified the Lethal Dose of Mitragynine in Kratom for Mice: https://www.inverse.com/article/51089-can-you-overdose-on-kratom Kevin's Obituary: https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/legacyremembers/kevin-oliveira-obituary?id=58342246 Vipassana Centers | Vipassana Research Institute: https://www.vridhamma.org/Vipassana-Centers WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Jacob shares holiday sobriety tips in the open. Our guest this week shares the story of her ex-partner Kevin, a talented and magnetic musician whose life was tragically cut short due to kratom toxicity according to death records (no other substances in his system and no pre-existing health conditions at the time of his passing). Through the perspective of his former partner Paloma, the conversation explores the progression of his disordered use, the challenges of withdrawal, the lack of societal awareness, and the emotional toll on loved ones. The episode ultimately calls for empathy, greater awareness, and more responsible regulation, emphasizing that addiction can affect anyone and that hope and support are essential for recovery. Scientists Identified the Lethal Dose of Mitragynine in Kratom for Mice: https://www.inverse.com/article/51089-can-you-overdose-on-kratom Kevin's Obituary: https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/legacyremembers/kevin-oliveira-obituary?id=58342246 Vipassana Centers | Vipassana Research Institute: https://www.vridhamma.org/Vipassana-Centers WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

In the intro, Lily and Charlie discuss the isolating nature of Kratom addiction and the importance of reaching out to others for support and community. Lily interviews Eric O, who shares his personal journey with kratom addiction and recovery. Eric describes how he first encountered kratom at a kava bar, initially using it socially and later as a way to manage pain and stress. Over time, his use escalated, leading to financial troubles, strained relationships, and significant health issues. With the support of his wife and family, Eric went through the challenges of withdrawal and relapse, ultimately achieving nine months of sobriety at the time of the interview. He emphasizes the importance of support systems, honesty, and avoiding triggers, and hopes his story will help others struggling with similar addictions. WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

In the intro, Jacob welcomes co-host Natalie (episodes 15 and 132) back to the podcast as they catch up on her life, career as a paramedic, and her perspective on seeing substance use issues in the field. Guest Ali shares her journey from early struggles with alcohol and opiates to years of dependence on kratom and the challenges of withdrawal. She opens up about the turning points that led her to seek help, including loss, motherhood, and finding faith. Finally, she reflects on her 18 months of sobriety, the power of community, and the hope that comes with rebuilding a life free from kratom. WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

In the open, Charlie and Nolan talk about the YouTuber interview from a couple weeks ago. In the interview, Katja shares with Lily her story of discovering the kava and kratom bar scene while living in Brooklyn and later witnessing her partner’s descent into kratom addiction. She offers a candid look at how extract products, financial strain, and secrecy turned their lives upside down and how she found stability through Al-Anon and community support. Her reflections give loved ones and those quitting kratom a grounded view of addiction, recovery, and hope. WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

This week features an interview Katie Herzog, author of the book "Drink Your Way Sober." Please be aware, you cannot use the Sinclair Method with kratom as it will cause precipitated withdrawals. The discussion explores medicated assisted treatment, harm reduction. the disease model for addiction, and a range of other topics. Drink Your Way Sober https://www.drinkyourwaysober.com/ WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Nolan interviews Metta Beshay, who posted a video recently named "The Insane World of Kratom & 7-OH" on YouTube. HEADS UP: This guest talks about recent kratom use and is not actively committed to kratom abstinence but shares a range of insights and information about kratom that many listeners may find interesting and/or helpful. Metta's YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/Pqx_bMGeGwc?si=6X8x6P-9-D3MyApvm WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

In the open, Nolan and Lily give tips on tapering. Nolan's quitting kratom book: https://a.co/d/b1cgJUJ In the interview, David Hudnall, a journalist from the Kansas City Star, discusses his investigative reporting on 7-OH (7-hydroxymitragynine). The discussion covers the rapid rise of 7-OH in the U.S. market, particularly in Kansas City, and how is overtaking traditional kratom products in smoke shops and gas stations. The conversation highlights personal stories of addiction, the aggressive marketing tactics used by companies (such as free samples and loyalty programs), and the blurred lines between kratom and 7-OH in the marketplace. 7-OH and American Shaman - Part One ‘It’s addictive, and it’s everywhere’: KC company’s pills hook users across US” By David Hudnall September 18, 2025 https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311991573.html 7-OH and American Shaman - Part Two From loans to hemp to smoke-shop opioids, KC businessman pushes legal limits By David Hudnall Updated September 17, 2025 https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311969568.html 7-OH and American Shaman - Part Three ‘Sinister industry’: Kansas City company behind 7-OH & a growing opioid epidemic By David Hudnall Updated September 18, 2025 https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311767920.html Inside The Star How we reported on American Shaman, Vince Sanders & the debate around 7-OH By David Hudnall Updated September 17, 2025 11:08 AM https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/inside-the-star/article312119075.html WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Jacob and Lily talk getting into hobbies during recovery. In the interview, Justine shares her quitting kratom journey. She turned to kratom to manage pain and escalated into a serious health crisis that resulted in a lengthy hospitalization. Justine warns about the dangers of unregulated substances and encourages others to seek help and not try to quit alone. WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lily and Jacob talk about hobbies in recovery. In this week's interview with Tori, an addiction professional in recovery, the growing presence of kratom in treatment settings is explored. She shares insights on client demographics, withdrawal symptoms, misconceptions about safety, and the importance of harm reduction and education, while also reflecting on her personal recovery journey and commitment to helping others. WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Charlie and Jacob speculate about what is in the kava-kratom tonics to make them more addictive for so many people. Lauren shares her journey with Jacob of nearly five years of daily kratom use that escalated from capsules to extracts, ending in secrecy, shame, and worsening depression. With the support of her therapist and doctor, she tapered off and quit on April 10, 2025, and now celebrates five months free, emphasizing mindset, community, and confidence in sober living. WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lily's interview with Mackenzie’s followers her journey with kratom, beginning with an initial exposure through wellness marketing and the rapid progression from casual use to daily dependence. After repeated withdrawal attempts, the toll on her mental and physical health was immense, and ultimately finding recovery through a five-week holistic treatment program in Sedona. The discussion also explores her shift in perspective on wellness, authenticity, creativity, and ongoing recovery practices, offering insight and encouragement to others facing similar struggles. Guest's Substack: Words from Wisdom | Kenzie Wisdom | Substack https://mckenziewisdom.substack.com/ WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Guest host Jazz (episode #41) talks with returning expert Dr. Casey Grover, an addiction medicine physician with both clinical expertise and lived experience of PTSD. Together, they explore the powerful intersection of trauma and addiction, breaking down how adverse childhood experiences, big “T” and little “t” traumas, and even intergenerational stress shape vulnerability to substance use. Dr. Grover discusses diagnostic criteria for PTSD, explains treatment approaches ranging from medications like prazosin and SSRIs to EMDR therapy and stellate ganglion blocks, and weighs in on newer options such as psychedelic-assisted therapy. The conversation also highlights the stigma around mental health in the medical community, the importance of trauma-informed care, and the healing potential of honesty and vulnerability. Resource links from episode: Grover, Casey MD. Goodbye Emergency Medicine—I Wish I Could Say Thanks for the Memories. Emergency Medicine News 47(2):p 22, March 2025. DOI: 10.1097/01.EEM.0001108624.36353.82 https://journals.lww.com/em-news/fulltext/2025/03000/goodbye_emergency_medicine_i_wish_i_could_say.14.aspx DSM-5 diagnostic criteria for PTSD: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207191/ Addiction Medicine Made Easy (Dr. Grover’s podcast) https://addictionmedicinemadeeasy.com MDCalc – Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) Calculator https://www.mdcalc.com Last Day Podcast – Episode with Dr. Gabor Maté https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/addiction-17-trauma-with-dr-gabor-mat%C3%A9/id1468896686?i=1000488387968 Book: What Happened to You? (Oprah & Bruce Perry) https://www.oprahdaily.com/what-happened-to-you Book: The Body Keeps the Score (Bessel van der Kolk) https://www.besselvanderkolk.com/resources/the-body-keeps-the-score GeneSight – Pharmacogenomic Testing https://genesight.com Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR Therapy) https://www.emdria.org/about-emdr-therapy Stellate Ganglion Block (SGB) for PTSD – Information https://www.stellateinstitute.com/sgb-for-ptsd WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00