Living Out Loud Discussion Series

In this episode of the Living Out Loud Discussion Series, Kim Mettler and I talk about layers of accountability that are commonly missed within the context of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) work. We share personal stories while weaving the concepts together as they are all related and significant impact organizations' ability to create safe and healthy communal spaces at work. Our Guest Kim serves in many roles: coach, facilitator, trainer, mediator, leader, advocate, mentor and “recovering attorney.” She inspires reflection, learning and growth through her ability to co-create supportive spaces and to help build bridges between differing perspectives and experiences. Kim has a unique ability to quickly gain peoples’ trust through her sense of humor, grounding energy and authenticity. Kim’s resilience-oriented work is informed by her lived experience and more than 25 years working with Native American activists and in/on behalf of Native Nations. Of Ukrainian German and Jewish descent and a citizen of the Mandan, Arikara and Hidatsa Nation, Kim is rooted in her cultural values of connection, community, equity and healing. To maintain a full-cup for her work, Kim enjoys being outdoors, creating ceramic and mixed media art, storytelling, cooking, yoga and is a dedicated nap-taker. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Kim Mettler, you can contact her here: Episode Chapters: 00:00 Setting the Stage 03:08 Kim Mettler's Journey and Advocacy Work 08:52 Accountability and Community Impact 21:17 Safety and Discomfort in Conversations 27:41 Skill Sets in Feedback and Reflection 29:58 Intent vs. Impact 34:37 The Nuances of Accountability and Safety 40:11 Creating Supportive and Accountable Environments 48:42 Leadership, Inquiry, and Cultivating Open Spaces 54:26 Continuous Learning and Growth 57:05 Wrap Up

In this episode of the Living Out Loud Discussion Series, I chat with Gina Amato, a long-time friend, social justice attorney and the directing attorney of the Immigrant Rights Project at Public Council, and we get into the concept of context appropriateness when addressing white supremacy culture in professional settings. We explore the nuances of real-life scenarios and interactions in workplaces, emphasizing the importance of understanding and unpacking the layers of in our identities and being curious of others. Our convo highlights the need for self-awareness and reflection in recognizing and challenging the norms of white supremacy culture, calling attention to the significance of relational approaches and creating spaces for authentic self-expression to invite a safer, more inclusive environment. Our Guest Gina Amato Lough is the Directing Attorney of Public Counsel’s Immigrants’ Rights Project. She leads a 30-member team of attorneys, paralegals, administrative staff, and social workers who serve asylum seekers, immigrants in detention, survivors of violent crime, unaccompanied children, and victims of notario fraud. Her team works toward a world where all (im)migrants live with dignity, power, and opportunity. Gina has been a public interest attorney and community leader for over twenty years. She joined Public Counsel in 2008, and for 14 years, she led the Immigrants’ Rights Project’s Survivor Team. The Survivor Team provides holistic services to immigrant survivors from a trauma-informed, client-centered perspective. In addition, Gina has engaged in widespread policy advocacy to protect the rights of immigrant survivors, and has worked in partnership with governmental and non-profit organizations to launch a campaign to combat notario fraud – a type of legal services fraud that is devastating to immigrant communities. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Gina Amato, you can contact her here: yahoo.com Episode Chapters 00:00 Setting the Stage 01:32 Reminiscing Past Experiences and Connections 02:50 Gina's Professional Journey and Personal Background 06:34 Context Appropriateness in Addressing White Supremacy Culture 08:05 Exploring the Concept of White Supremacy Culture 11:47 The Impact of White Supremacy Culture in the Workplace 13:28 Authenticity and Professionalism in the Workplace 25:15 Intersection of Race and Gender in Workplace Norms 28:01 Facing Consequences for Expressing Anger 30:26 The Human Element in Leadership 31:42 The Misconception of White Supremacy Culture 34:25 The Danger of Weaponizing White Supremacy Characteristics 36:49 Intersectionality of White Supremacy Culture 38:39 Personal Experience with White Supremacy Culture 50:51 The Importance of Authenticity in the Workplace 54:10 Wrapping Up: Contact Information and Final Thoughts

In this episode of the Living Out Loud Discussion Series, I chat with Lindsay Messoline in a candid conversation about understanding and responsibly using privilege. Our discussion covers personal stories, acknowledging privilege's complexities, and the challenge of bringing one's whole self—including various privileges—to professional environments and discussions on diversity, equity, and inclusion. We stress the importance of being aware of oneself, understanding the systemic contexts in which emotions and reactions occur, and the growth that comes from staying present in discomfort. Lindsay shares her journey from a transformative educational experience in Ethnic Studies to becoming an advocate for education and DEI-related efforts, as well as insights into managing internal reactions in tense situations. The goal of this episode is to model openness and provide insights into developing a healthier relationship with privilege. Our Guest Lindsay Messoline is an educator and writer with over 20 years of serving students from marginalized, minoritized and racialized populations. She has worked with refugees and migrants in Oregon and Tijuana, Mexico, and formerly-incarcerated and currently-incarcerated individuals in Los Angeles and New York. Her specialties include GED and adult high school completion, foundational literacy and math, English and Spanish-language acquisition, and fostering a sense of self-esteem, self-love and confidence through education. She is highly experienced in curriculum development and design, and works to center people with diverse perspectives to create material that truly serves all learners. In 2021, she founded Collaborative Voices Initiative in order to amplify traditionally-excluded voices in education and beyond. She is a published author and a contributing writer to Educate, a publication on Medium. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Lindsay Messoline, you can contact her here: http://CollaborativeVoices.co Episode Chapters 00:00 Setting the Stage 01:16 Intro to Lindsay Messoline 05:28 Past Experiences and Assumptions 07:16 Understanding Privilege: A Deep Dive 10:19 Lindsay's Personal Experiences with Privilege 12:06 The Intersectionality of Privilege 23:09 Lindsay’s Story 29:28 Privilege in Different Contexts 32:36 Competition in Oppression 42:25 Emotions in Understanding Privilege 44:19 Process of Engaging with Privilege 46:50 Discomfort in Understanding Privilege 55:20 Conclusion: The Ongoing Journey of Understanding Privilege

In this episode of the Living Out Loud Discussion Series, I got to sit with Dr. Wendy Ashley for a convo about the challenges and common experiences of white executives who are engaging in DEI work. We touch on the nuances of interactions within professional settings- Dr. Ashley brilliantly uses an analogy of leaders as quarterbacks, emphasizing that they can't avoid their roles and need to acknowledge they hold in order to effectively share it. We also detail the importance of self regulation, understanding your responses and behaviors, the importance of accountability partners, and the value of grounding yourself in the mission and values of the work. The overarching theme: the need for leaders, regardless of their intentions, to be aware of their impact and to strive to lead responsibly. Our Guest Wendy Ashley, Psy.D., LCSW is a Professor and the Department Chair of the California State University at Northridge’s Master of Social Work (MSW) program. Dr. Ashley holds a doctorate in Clinical Psychology (Psy.D.), a MSW, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, and has over twenty-five years of social work practice experience. She maintains certification in Diversity and Inclusion Practices (from Cornell University) and in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (from EMDR International Association). Dr. Ashley is the author of multiple publications, speaks at conferences nationwide and internationally, maintains a private practice and provides training for multiple community agencies. She is passionate about promoting social justice, and infuses an intersectionality lens in her teaching, practice, training and research. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Wendy Ashley, you can contact her here: IG: @DrWendyAshley Episode Chapters 00:00 Setting the Stage 01:12 Guest Intro Dr. Wendy Ashley 02:07 Clinical Aspect of DEI 06:57 'Shape Shifting' in Multiracial Experiences 13:07 Challenges of Leadership and Power Dynamics 27:34 Acknowledging and Unpacking Whiteness 33:50 Dangers of Cancel Culture and Performative Activism 34:56 Multiple Truths 35:47 Self-Regulation and Understanding Your Actions 36:44 The Nervous System in Our Reactions 39:11 Self-Regulation and Understanding Your Defaults 41:29 Accountability in Leadership 44:07 Understanding the Impact of Your Actions 45:43 Role of the Leader in Navigating Difficult Conversations 52:42 Accountability Partners in Leadership 55:47 Grounding Yourself in Your Mission and Values 56:32 Conclusion: Using Your Power Responsibly

This episode of the Living Out Loud Discussion Series features an insightful conversation on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) with Allen Lipscomb, an Associate Professor, licensed clinical social worker, and DEI practitioner. Our discussion emphasizes the value of understanding and learning to navigate varied interpersonal interactions in professional settings. Allen sheds light on his work and research in this area, particularly in organizations, and weaves in his experiences studying communities targeting for marginalization, mental health, and systemic racism. The conversation revolves around understanding oneself, embracing imperfections, handling reactivity, and building better interpersonal relationships. Allen also shares a practical technique called the PAUSE method to tackle adverse responses at work and advocates for starting DEI efforts from an individual level. Our Guest Allen E. Lipscomb, PsyD, LCSW is an Associate Professor, Associate Chair, Director of MSW Online Program; as well as Director of Minority Male Mentoring (M3) and Student Success Allies (SSA) program at California State University Northridge in the Department of Social Work. Dr. Lipscomb is a clinical psychologist with the highest degree earned and a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in the State of California. In addition, Dr. Lipscomb studied diversity and inclusion practices within organizations through Cornell University, earning a certification from the School of Industrial and Labor Relations at Cornell. In 2022, Dr. Lipscomb earned a certification in Executive Public Leadership within organizations at Harvard University in the Kennedy School of Executive Education. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Allen Lipscomb, you can contact him here: IG: dr.alipscomb Twitter: alcombs101 Episode Chapters 00:00 Setting the Stage 01:37 Allen Lipscomb's Expertise and Approach 05:27 Importance of DEI in Various Roles 08:06 Interpersonal Reactions 13:49 The Role of Leadership in DEI 15:21 Recognizing Individual Experiences 18:04 Addressing the Challenges of DEI in Different Roles 20:09 Impact of DEI on Organizational Culture 29:41 Struggles of Supervision and Learning Differences 30:40 Power of Patience and Curiosity 31:35 Understanding Different Learning Styles 33:45 Self-Awareness and Reflection 38:02 Accountability and Accepting Mistakes 45:07 The Power of the PAUSE Method 49:46 Individual Accountability in Collective Progress 50:42 Closing Remarks and Contact Information

In this episode of The Living Out Loud Discussion Series, I engage in a deep conversation with Jessie Prado. As one of my former students, Jessie brings a wealth of knowledge to the discussion on intersectional identities and 'isms' often overlooked in diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) work. We get into topics like non-traditional family structures, ethical non-monogamy (ENM), and sizeism, and their relevance in the workspace. As an advocate for mental health and a queer Salvadorian, Jessie provides insights into their personal journey of learning and unlearning in their constant quest for professional growth. This discussion emphasizes the importance of being mindful of language, opening up dialogue, and making conscious efforts to guide these discussions on seemingly uncomfortable subjects in the DEI sphere. Our Guest Jessie Prado is an ASW with many interests in mental health advocacy, challenging dominant perspectives, and ongoing professional growth. Their specialization includes LGBTQIA+, BIPOC, size and non-traditional relationship structures, inclusivity, and intersectionality. They recently graduated with their MSW from California State University, Dominguez Hills, with an emphasis on community mental health, Critical Race Theory, and Intersectionality. Currently, they offer all-affirming clinical services to youths of all ages and aspire to continue or generate inclusivity conversations. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Jessie Prado, you can contact them here: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jpradoasw/ Episode Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Purpose of the Discussion 01:08 Introducing the Guest Speaker: Jessie Prado 03:59 Defining All Affirming Spaces 04:59 Addressing Power Dynamics in the Conversation 07:14 The Importance of Challenging Dominant Perspectives 12:39 Unpacking Sizeism in Workplaces 24:07 Exploring Non-Traditional Family Structures 31:45 Understanding Ethical Non-Monogamy 32:34 Implications of ENM in Workspaces 33:08 Challenging Stereotypes and Biases 35:37 The Role of Language in Inclusivity 36:05 The Importance of Open-Mindedness 43:35 The Struggles of Learning and Unlearning 43:49 The Journey of Self-Reflection 47:49 The Challenges of Being a Learner 52:03 The Power of Open Questions 55:30 Wrapping Up

In this episode, Stephanie Castellanos, founder of Uproot Talent, shares details about their unique and intentional approach to reforming the hiring process. By focusing on creating room, access, and opportunity for the global majority within social impact organizations, they redesign the job search process around deep listening and learning, breaking down traditional barriers. Stephanie discusses the key skills required for their work, such as boldness, intentionality, foresight, listening, and follow-through. The interview also delves into Stephanie's personal career journey, her experience and growth in challenging the status-quo, and the value of transparency and empathy during the hiring process. Stephanie Castellanos is a justice & equity strategist and the founder of Uproot Talent – an award-winning boutique talent advising and executive search firm based in Los Angeles, CA. To get in touch with Stephanie, you can contact her here: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/uproot-talent Social Media Handles: @uproottalent @purposehustle Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI 00:00 Setting the Stage 02:09 Stephanie's Personal Background and Journey 05:37 The Birth of Uproot Talent 17:31 The Unique Approach of Uproot Talent 21:56 The Hiring Process and Practices at Uproot Talent 27:08 Supporting Black Women in the Workplace 27:42 Intentionality in Professional Relationships 28:56 Understanding Anti-Oppressive Practices 31:04 Experience and Degrees in Job Applications 33:14 Confidentiality in Job Searches 34:46 Impact of Bias and Racism in the Workplace 38:09 Trust and Integrity in Professional Relationships 46:41 Boldness and Intentionality in Professional Success 48:37 Listening and Following Up in Building Trust 49:51 Being True to Your Word in Professional Relationships 52:45 The Journey of Uproot Talent

In this episode of the Living Out Loud podcast, I sit down with Bryce Ezrre to explore messages and behaviors she’s personally experiences in the social work industry. It was an honest discussion where she openly shares her responses to real situations, which includes internal narratives that didn’t serve her well. Our hope is that we normalize how real, hard, and necessary it is to do deeper work, especially as it relates to unpacking privilege for the purpose of improving relationships with others. Check it out! Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Bryce Ezrre, you can contact her here: Email: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryce-ezrre-6761b2109/

I sat down with facilitation expert, Janice Boafo, to get into the turbulent waters of group dynamics, challenging the status quo, and holding space for unpopular opinions to create transformative dialogue and shared accountability. Discover how to navigate these moments in group settings as a facilitator or leader, and learn valuable insights on balancing authenticity with core values. With powerful questions and intentional discussions, we draw upon our own experiences to guide you in inviting open and meaningful conversations. Join us as we get into the importance of shared accountability in creating change within your teams and organizations. Don't miss this engaging conversation that will inspire you to challenge the status quo and embrace diverse perspectives. In this episode, you will be able to: Enhance group dynamics by learning the art of holding space for unpopular opinions. Foster inclusivity and understanding by creating a safe environment for diverse perspectives to thrive. Gain insight into the responsibilities of facilitators in group settings and learn how to effectively navigate challenging conversations. Transform your group sessions from passive learning experiences to experiential development opportunities for deeper understanding and growth. Find the balance between authenticity and core values in open dialogue, creating a space where all voices are heard and respected. The guest for this episode is Janice Boafo Janice Boafo is an experienced professional in the field of social work with a background in coaching and training. She brings a wealth of expertise to the table. As a licensed clinical social worker, she has worked extensively with social workers, resource parents, and drug and alcohol counselors. Janice's passion for facilitating spaces and creating community led her to start her own company called Evergreen Cypher. Through her business, she aims to foster growth, potential, and connection within communities. Her ability to witness, see, and hear others is truly special. Janice has a grounded earthly energy and an appreciation for lessons that are revealed from personal experiences- these have helped her embrace the messiness of DEI work. With her guidance, facilitators and leaders can learn valuable techniques for creating safe and inclusive spaces where unpopular opinions can be explored and understood. One of My Fav Moments 🧡 Shared Space and Group Agreements A crucial part of shared spaces involves negotiating group agreements, or commitments. This covers not just the boundaries of conversation but also the actions and behaviors of people within the space. At its core, this is a collective experience. Janice and I talked about the essentiality of shared accountability in creating and maintaining the space everyone is in together. Janice talks about her approach to facilitation, focusing on collective thinking and decision-making, which involves acknowledging and respecting the uniqueness of each group. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Janice Boafo, you can contact her here: Email: janice@everygreencypher.com The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:00 - Setting the Stage, 00:01:13 - Getting to Know Janice Boafo, 00:06:09 - Understanding Holding Space, 00:09:57 - No Spectators, 00:10:48 - Facilitating vs. Directing, 00:16:03 - Holding Space and Activations, 00:17:52 - Holding Space for Unpopular Opinions, 00:19:48 - Parallel Process of Facilitation, 00:23:15 - Shared Space and Group Agreements,...

In a world where diversity, equity, and inclusion have become buzzwords, my chat with Nicole Vazquez is timely as we challenge the status quo. Brace yourself for an honest account of the dark side of surface-level approaches in DEI work. Prepare to be awakened, as we expose the uncomfortable truth behind the shallow efforts that have become what most businesses now expect. Are you ready to delve into the depths of transformative change, or will you choose to stay adrift on the surface? In this episode, you will be able to: ✅ Gain a deeper understanding of surface saturation in DEI work and how to navigate it effectively. ✅ Discover the performativity in DEI efforts and learn how to move beyond surface-level actions to drive meaningful change. ✅ Explore the concept of interest convergence and its significance in DEI work, unlocking new strategies for transformative change. ✅ Learn how to navigate the co-opting and watering down of DEI terms, ensuring the integrity of your DEI efforts. ✅ Enhance your DEI training with nuanced examples that challenge assumptions and encourage critical thinking for lasting impact. The guest for this episode is Nicole Vazquez With her extensive knowledge and experience in the field of diversity, equity, and inclusion, Nicole brings a fresh and innovative approach to the table. As a professor, she challenged traditional teaching methods, creating a dynamic and inclusive learning environment that left a lasting impact on her students. Nicole's unique background as an Afro Latinx, queer, cis-woman, fluent in both English and Spanish, gives her a perspective and expertise that's needed in this work. With her Master of Social Work and Master of Public Policy degrees, Nicole brings a wealth of knowledge and insights to help DEI practitioners navigate the challenges of surface-level approaches and drive transformative change. One of My Fav Moments 🧡 Interest Convergence and White Supremacy Culture Interest convergence is a theory that racial progress comes at a point when interests of the dominant white group align with the needs of marginalized racial groups. This interest alignment becomes problematic when they converge only to serve the majority's benefits. At the same time, White Supremacy Culture forms the backdrop, privileging white people and Western norms. The challenge lies in identifying and acknowledging these structures within your organization, addressing and working through them consciously. Charmaine Utz identifies with this. She believes DEI goes beyond mere productivity and profitability, advocating for workers' experiences and welfare. Nicole, in solidarity with Utz, calls out hierarchical thinking, emphasizing the importance of frontline workers. They both critique the practices where DEI work is regarded as separate to regular business practices and urge organizations to view it as integral to their overall success. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Nicole Vazquez, you can contact her here: https://www.instagram.com/amoradelante/ The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:00 - Setting the Stage, 00:01:47 - Nicole's Unique Teaching Approach, 00:03:54 - Explaining Surface Saturation, 00:06:15 - Interest Convergence and White Supremacy Culture, 00:10:44 - Widely Shared Not Knowing What to Do, 00:16:34 - The Importance of Doing the Deep Work on Race and Intersectionality, 00:17:48 - The Challenges of Doing the Deep Work, 00:19:33 - Overcoming Resistance and Blame, 00:21:41 - Integrating DEI into Business...

If you're feeling frustrated and overwhelmed by the lack of progress in creating a safe and inclusive culture in your social services organization, despite your best efforts to lead and implement change, then you are not alone! Many professionals like yourself may be experiencing a disconnect between their actions and the desired outcome. You may find that despite conducting trainings, implementing policies, and encouraging open dialogue, there is still a lack of accountability and meaningful change within your organization. There is a lot that can be learned from clients. Join me and Living Unapologetically consultant, Kendrick Dial, in an open dialogue where we learn lessons from Jason Vicente, social service leader and one of our bias coaching clients. You are in for a treat! In this episode, you will be able to: Elevate your consulting and leadership techniques with an informed bias coaching perspective. Create a supportive space for discussion and growth, emphasizing the need for openness and vulnerability. Proactively approach DEI consulting challenges, preparing for transformation and addressing ingrained biases. Unveil the intricate interplay of intersectionality in everyday life, highlighting the value of diverse leadership. Spearhead culture change by driving proactive solutions and instilling model behavior in your workspace. The guest for this episode is Jason Vicente We are honored to have the presence of Jason Vicente. His journey is rooted in social services, spending nine impactful years working with young adults who experience homelessness, the LGBTQ communities, and foster care systems. His experience isn't just professional – it's profoundly personal. Jason is here to share his insights and perspectives on what it's been like to receive bias coaching from Living Unapologetically. His unique experiences offer a fresh perspective to leaders looking to grow and foster a culture of inclusivity and respect. One of My Fav Moments: Embrace Challenges in DEI Consulting Navigating the complexities inherent to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) consulting can be tough, but embracing these challenges can lead to more meaningful change. Jason and Kendrick advise that leaders need to exemplify accountability, humility, and openness for successful DEI initiatives. Additionally, they underscore the necessity of readiness and commitment among clients to engage in deep introspection and growth. This transformation, while challenging, can be incredibly rewarding, leading to profound organizational changes and heightened responsibility towards biases and systemic barriers. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ To get in touch with Jason Vicente, you can contact him here: The Brew Inn Podcast- https://linktr.ee/thebrewinnpodcast To get in touch with Kendrick Dial, you can contact him here: The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:00 - Setting the Stage, 00:04:46 - Experience in Bias Coaching, 00:07:32 - Creating a Safe Space, 00:11:11 - Internal Struggle Points, 00:14:52 - The Challenge of Prioritizing Learning, 00:17:14 - Balancing Workload and Learning, 00:18:32 - The Practical Aspect of Coaching, 00:21:21 - Applying Learnings in Personal Life, 00:25:39 - Reflecting on the Experience, 00:30:16 - Balancing Structure and Openness, 00:32:36 - Approaching Organizations and Setting Boundaries, 00:36:29 - Choosing the Right Clients, 00:39:41 - The Role of Consultants, 00:43:22 - Readiness and Self-Reflection, 00:45:57 - The Importance of Self-Reflection, 00:47:25 - Addressing Deflections,...

Join me and guest Krystal Williams Payne as we unpack the layers of learning, unlearning, and relearning, and be prepared for a shocking personal revelations. We share our lives transparently and apply our learning to what it means for people in the workplace. Find out how we navigate the emotional and physical challenges of growth and change. In this episode, you will be able to: Explore the dynamic cycle of learning, unlearning, and relearning to propel your transformation. Realize the intriguing link between physical engagement and an effective absorption of knowledge. Navigate the three critical stages in the learning realm: Receiving fresh knowledge, shedding prior assumptions, and embracing renewed outlooks. Participate in an encompassing physical connection during your learning journey for an all-rounded internalization. Cultivate a sense of trust and openness to establish a conducive space for self-evolution. The guest for this episode is Krystal Williams Payne Step into the fascinating mind of Krystal Williams Payne, a licensed marriage and family therapist, yoga instructor, and sound healer. She brilliantly integrates these aspects, painting a picture of what it means to truly be connected with ourselves. She espouses a refreshing focus on challenging established narratives and getting closer to a healthier relationship with our bodies and minds. Proactively engaging with her expertise, Krystal shines a light on the trials of personal growth, making way for a journey of discovery and enlightenment. One of My Fave Moments: The Challenges of DEI Work DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) work can be immensely rewarding but also quite rigorous. It requires an ongoing and layered process of learning. It challenges frames, reframes, and shifts perspectives on things that are personal to people, inviting professionals to constantly question, reassess, and adjust their attitudes and approaches. Krystal and I discuss the unique challenges DEI practitioners face. We emphasize the critical need for self-exploration and emotional resilience in our professions. Krystal and I highlight that practitioners should commit to deeply understanding and managing their emotions, capable of sitting with discomfort. This forms an essential bridge to facilitate growth in others, underlining the need for DEI practitioners to practice what they preach consistently. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Krystal Williams Payne, you can contact her here: https://www.youtube.com/@yogabykrystal/featured https://www.tiktok.com/@krystaltheyogatherapist The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:00 - Setting the Stage 00:04:55 - Introduction to Learning, Unlearning, and Relearning, 00:06:52 - Nuances and Complexities of Learning, 00:10:01 - The Physical and Emotional Experience of Unlearning, 00:12:28 - The Challenges of DEI Work, 00:13:14 - The Importance of Experiencing the Ring, 00:14:50 - The Reluctance to Enter the Ring, 00:16:28 - The Invitation to Trust, 00:19:31 - The Role of Consultants, 00:21:00 - Process Over Destination, 00:22:17 - Personal Example: Relationship with Food, 00:29:55 - Benefits of Embracing a New Perspective, 00:32:05 - The Ongoing Process of Relearning and Unlearning, 00:34:27 - The Complexity of Personal Growth, 00:37:01 - Applying Personal Growth to Professional Settings, 00:38:36 - Tangible Steps for Personal Growth, 00:45:40 - The Importance of Feeling Emotions, 00:47:59 - The Scary Process of Feeling, 00:48:52 - Communicating and...

In the world of DEI work, feedback can be a powerful tool for growth and change. But what happens when feedback becomes personal and DEI pioneers are left questioning their approach? Join us as we explore the challenges of receiving feedback in DEI efforts and the importance of understanding the layers of feedback to prompt the potential for change. But be warned, the path to progress may not always be smooth... In this episode, you will be able to: Grasp the essentials of spearheading a successful DEI journey. Unearth the technique of processing feedback critically and constructively in DEI endeavors. Decipher coping mechanisms to alleviate discomfort emerging from DEI work. Realize the significance of emotional well-being and self-regulation in navigating DEI journeys. Figure out how to build an inviting and supportive setting for DEI-centric actions. The guest for this episode is Bola Ruff Meet Bola Ruff, our incredibly insightful guest for today. Bola's multicultural background as a British-born Nigerian woman raised in the United States allows her to bring a broad understanding of human interactions and their implications in DEI efforts. Her profession as a clinical preceptor and therapist for Thriveworks has honed her analytical and empathetic understanding of individuals and their interaction in communal settings. Beyond her professional commitments, Bola values quality time with friends and family, enjoys exploring new places, and loves to embrace the outdoors through leisurely walks. Her comprehensive professional and personal experiences make her a compelling voice in the DEI conversation. One of My Fav Takeaways: Understanding Key Strategies for Managing Discomfort Engaging in DEI work invariably involves challenging and sometimes uncomfortable conversations. Leaders must be equipped to handle this discomfort by developing coping mechanisms, practicing emotional regulation, and actively embracing difficult conversations. Exploring clinical perspectives to navigate discomfort and maintaining curiosity can facilitate dialogues, contributing meaningfully towards fostering an inclusive environment. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! http://www.livingunapologetically.com http://www.youtube.com/@livingunapologetically https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ http://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ http://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ To get in touch with Bola Ruff, you can contact her here: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/omobolaruff/ The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:00 - Setting the Stage, 00:04:40 - Feedback in DEI Work, 00:07:52 - Feedback for Those Leading the Work, 00:12:25 - When There is An Absence of DEI Work, 00:14:49 - Clinical Aspect in DEI Work, 00:16:54 - Recognizing and Regulating Responses to Feedback, 00:19:30 - Expectations and Standards in DEI Work, 00:21:29 - Holding and Processing Feedback, 00:25:53 - Returning with Messaging and Questions, 00:29:43 - Moving Forward and Accepting Feedback, 00:33:12 - The Importance of Understanding the Work, 00:34:20 - Supporting DEI Efforts, 00:35:13 - Emotional Support in DEI Work, 00:38:57 - Negotiating Feedback and Expectations, 00:44:31 - Giving Behavior-Specific Feedback, 00:50:28 - Introduction and Contact Information, 00:50:39 - Connecting and Deepening Practice, 00:51:11 - Conclusion

A thoughtful leader confronts the bittersweet journey of leaving her long-time position, grappling with internalized oppression and the pursuit of aligning personal values, while navigating the challenging conflict between privilege and identity. The conversation went in an unexpected direction which illustrated the nuanced nature of reflective process. In this episode, you will be able to: Discover the transformational power of self-reflection following a transition from leadership. Absorb profound life lessons influenced by personal principles. Understand the trap of societal pressure to chase position and wealth over personal fulfillment. Uncover the crucial role of courageous communication in cultivating inclusive environments. Get into the complex intersection of identity, privilege, and oppression in leaders. Meet Sharon Chun Wetterau Sharon is a luminary in the field of social work and higher education with a 30-year career in direct practice and leadership. Sharon's journey shines a light on the value of every professional development stage, from frontline practitioner to program coordinator and leadership roles in notable educational institutions. Facing the challenges and rewards of each phase has only refined her insight and fueled her dedication to her craft. Sharon's reflective approach following her departure from a decade-long role at Dominguez offers an invaluable example to leaders transitioning from their familiar spaces. As a testament to her commitment to self, Sharon now serves in a direct practice role, underlining her belief in treasuring each career stage and aligning professional decisions with personal values. One of My Fav Moments: The Transformational Power of Self-Reflection: Self-reflection is a crucial tool for personal growth and is especially powerful during career transitions. It enables leaders to reassess their actions, decisions, and leadership style, providing valuable insights for future work engagements. This self-reflective process can also help individuals realign their career goals with their personal values, leading to heightened feelings of fulfillment and job satisfaction. In this episode, Sharon gave herself to the moment which allowed for a real life moment to unpack in real time. It was an example of the learning process leaders avoid when behavior change is what they want... This is a must see! Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! https://www.livingunapologetically.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/ https://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ https://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Sharon Chun Wetterau, you can contact her here: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-chun-wetterau-a0183619/ The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:00 - Setting the Stage 00:02:41 - The Impact of Sharon's Leadership, 00:06:05 - Reflecting on Change, 00:09:11 - "Aha" Moments in Reflection, 00:12:37 - Societal Pressure and Reflection, 00:17:16 - Unexpected Changes and Personal Growth, 00:18:30 - The Impact of Being the First, 00:18:59 - Developing a Critical Race Theory Lens, 00:20:35 - Not Honoring Values in the Workplace, 00:24:54 - Lessons from Past Mistakes, 00:33:14 - Communication and Its Impact, 00:34:45 - Reflection and Learning, 00:35:53 - Similarities in Higher Ed and Organizations, 00:39:04 - Circling Back and Behavior Change, 00:41:52 - Experiential Learning and Reflection, 00:49:20 - Negative Narratives and Privilege, 00:50:41 - The Complexity of Experiences, 00:51:35 - Gratitude and Validation, 00:52:54 - Choosing a Different Path, 00:54:00 - Reflection and Change,

Does this sound familiar? You've been told to avoid discussing power, privilege, and oppression in the workplace, believing it will disrupt harmony and productivity. But by keeping silent, you're feeling the pain of unaddressed dynamics and the perpetuation of inequality. It's time to challenge the ineffective approach and embrace open dialogue to uncover the subtle practices that hinder progress. Join us as we navigate through uncomfortable conversations, cultivate safe spaces, and gain the skills to break down power dynamics in the workplace. In this episode, you will be able to: Meet Kendrick Dial Kendrick is a multi-talented individual with a passion for combining mental health, social justice, and the arts to create meaningful change. Kendrick, an alumnus of University of Southern California and a BA holder in Africana Studies in Psychology and an MSW holder, brings a wealth of experience, which also includes his time served in the US Navy as a radar technician and a substance abuse counselor. He also works as a Practice Coach at the Academy for Professional Excellence. Kendrick isn't just any professional, he's a creative coach for his business, Creative Engagement and a frontman, songwriter, and producer for the award-winning band The Lyrical Groove - showcasing his diverse talent. One of My FAV Moments: The Need for Conversations on Power, Privilege, and Oppression Creating open dialogue allows for a deeper understanding of the complexities surrounding power, privilege, and oppression. These conversations aid in highlighting societal inequalities and the importance of creating an inclusive environment. The key to fostering these conversations is to encourage inquiry, acknowledgment of individual experiences, and facing the discomfort these convos likely bring. Exploring these dynamics can foster change and help create more inclusive environments. In our discussion, we highlight the significance of these discussions in professional settings. We note that organizations must face the discomfort caused by these conversations and engage in them regardless. Both of us share the belief that these discussions can help people recognize the impact of power dynamics on decision-making and organizational culture. More importantly, it is encouraged that we all regularly practice leaning into discomfort, asking questions, and confronting personal biases as potential pathways for meaningful change. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! https://www.livingunapologetically.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/https://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ https://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Kendrick, you can contact him here: https://kendrickdial.com/https://www.bbybluefilm.com https://instagram.com/babyblue.film https://instagram.com/solomonsmood FREE RESOURCES & TOOLS TO DEEPEN YOUR WORK: https://www.livingunapologetically.com/30-day-bias-challenge https://www.livingunapologetically.com/tip-sheets-guides BUY BIAS-CONSCIOUS LEADERSHIP: https://www.livingunapologetically.com/bias-conscious-leadership Thanks for listening!

Join Charmaine Utz and Minola Clark Manson as they delve into the complexities of addressing hurtful impacts on people in professional and personal settings. They discuss the nuances of difficult situations often experienced in workplaces and offer solutions to move courageously and responsibility through impacting others. Find yourself in these situations too? Learn with us in the Living Out Loud Discussion Series. In this episode, you will be able to: Discover the significance of curiosity and honoring contrasting opinions. Address difficult conversations and exercise your leadership influence. Reflect on your inner self, set boundaries, and prioritize self-rejuvenation. Strengthen courageous conversation skills with responsibility and combating prejudices. Cultivate a mindset for growth and continuous progress in all facets of life. This guest for this episode is Minola Clark Manson With extensive experience in executive management, Minola Clark Manson has made an impact within health and human service organizations, nonprofits, and governmental bodies. As a leader who understands the importance of growing people beyond their current roles, Minola has developed a reputation for promoting inclusive and strengths-based practices. Her dedication to diversity, equity, and inclusion, anti-racism, and trauma-informed leadership has led to transformative changes in her work. Minola's keen ability to be present and curious in difficult situations makes her an insightful guest for sharing strategies on addressing hurtful impacts in professional settings. One of My Fav Moments: Taking Responsibility for Our Words It is crucial for individuals to take responsibility for their words and actions, especially in professional settings. This involves becoming more self-aware, reflecting on one's intentions, and being proactive in addressing any potential negative impact. Furthermore, taking ownership not only demonstrates respect and empathy to others, but it also fosters a culture of accountability and growth in the workplace. During their conversation, both Charmaine Utz and Minola Clark Manson emphasize the importance of self-reflection and understanding one's intentions. Manson shares how practicing self-awareness has helped her make necessary changes in her behavior and prevent causing unintentional harm. By taking responsibility for their words and actions, individuals can contribute to fostering a positive and collaborative environment in the workplace. Share this episode with people so they can learn with you- use it as a discussion tool with groups, teams, supervisors, and your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us across our platforms! https://www.livingunapologetically.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/charmaine-utz-lcsw/https://www.instagram.com/theunapologetictherapist/ https://www.facebook.com/livingunapologeticallyservices/ https://twitter.com/LivingDEI To get in touch with Minola, you can contact her here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/minola-clark-manson-365499a/ FREE RESOURCES & TOOLS TO DEEPEN YOUR WORK: https://www.livingunapologetically.com/30-day-bias-challenge https://www.livingunapologetically.com/tip-sheets-guides BUY BIAS-CONSCIOUS LEADERSHIP: https://www.livingunapologetically.com/bias-conscious-leadership Thanks for listening!