Men of Steel

In the wake of the, at the time, unpopular “Electric Blue” era of Superman, we were presented four EXTREMELY classic takes on Superman. From the Truth, Justice, and Hope podcast, Grant Richter joins Case and Jmike to talk about “The Dominus Effect”.

Who watches the Watchmen? We do! Case and Jmike, along with Doug Lief do! They’re here to talk about the comic and it’s various adaptations and spin offs. Find Doug’s show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nostalgium-arcanum/id1647660534

Jesse Fresco joins Case and Jmike to look at Superman's last solo film! Check out Jesse's work over at Jaguar Sharks! https://open.spotify.com/show/0z0fwhI0yEttCleRWxpAOg

"What a brilliant future we could have. And there will be peace – there will be peace when the people of this world want it so badly that their governments will have no choice but to give it to them. I just wish you could all see the Earth the way that I see it. Because when you really look at it, it's just one world." DJ Nik from the Happiness in Darkness podcast (and way more!) joins Case and Jmike to talk about the final movie in the Christopher Reeve series.

Some Men of Steel are actually MONKEY! Case and Jmike are joined by Derek Van Dyke to talk about what is undoubtedly the "Optimal Optimus" (as well as "Code of Hero" because we are not monsters). Transcript (Subject to error) 00:00 Case Aiken Season one has a couple, like, events that feel like this should be the season finale. Like the floating island one. Yeah. And then it's like, oh, no, we're just gonna keep going. 00:07 Derek Van Dyke Season one just did a lot of great, like, mini story arcs leading up to. Yeah. Watching Beast wars, like, out of order on syndication, over the air was. 00:17 Jmike Folson Yeah, that would have messed with you. 00:18 Derek Van Dyke Yeah, because it's like every other week there's some season finale, and you're like, what is happening? 00:40 Case Aiken Hey, everyone, and welcome back to the Men of Steel podcast. I am an optimal case Aiken, and as always, I am joined by my rat trap, J. Mike Falson. 00:51 Jmike Folson I gotta be rat trap, though. Why couldn't it be Cheetor? 00:53 Case Aiken Oh. 00:54 Jmike Folson Anyway, hey, welcome back, everybody. 00:55 Case Aiken I mean, honestly, you're probably the rhinox of the team. 01:01 Derek Van Dyke A higher compliment you cannot give. 01:05 Case Aiken Well, and there's the peacemaker right there. So that's the tiger Tron, Derek Van. 01:09 Derek Van Dyke Dyke, although I do not have nearly as deep and dulcite of tones as Tigatron's voice actor. 01:16 Case Aiken What's his name? Blue Mankuma. 01:18 Derek Van Dyke Beautiful, beautiful voice. 01:20 Case Aiken An incredible voice. So we're not going to mince words here. I tried to do a bit and it didn't quite work. But you know what? We're going to maximize this effort here. Today we're talking about maximize Transformers, Beast wars, and specifically, we're going to talk about Optimus Primal and how I would argue that he is a Superman analog. And before we started recording, Derek and I were talking about how probably of any Transformers character, especially any Beast wars character, Optimus prime is the best example of a Superman type character in the series. 01:50 Derek Van Dyke And that also, I think that primal specifically is probably the best version of Optimus to make that analog with in terms of the ways that Primal is a unique character from G, one Optimus, or, like, prime or Energon or any of those other versions of Optimus Primal, very much stands out in that regard to me. 02:11 Case Aiken Yeah. I mean, so much so that in the episode victory, there is a direct, like, it's a bird, it's a plane. It's exactly. I mean, we're all 90s babies here. This seemed kind of like an appropriate little session of just, like, nostalgia and looking at a thing that definitely, even if the metaphor is forced, it is the heroic archetype that we try to talk about on this piece, where a character has the power of action and does his or her best to make the world a better place, regardless of threats and regardless of the ability to do more in a way that would be harmful to others and trying to avoid those types of situations. So we picked out a bunch of episodes from the first season to really focus on for this. But we'll talk about the series as a whole. 02:56 Case Aiken We'll talk about some of the other characters. We're obviously going to talk about code of Hero because we're not monsters on this podcast. And that has to be discussed if we're talking about beast wars. But we are going to try to frame the conversation mostly about Optimus Primal, who is just goddamn awesome. And I think a good place to start, then, before we actually get into the episodes, is just how Optimus Primal is not Optimus prime. They're very similar characters. They are obviously both the leader types for the group. But for one thing, Optimus Primal isn't just the biggest fucking dude in the room. 03:28 Jmike...

It's exciting to reinvent a character as classic as Superman for a new generation while remaining true to his core. Case and Jmike are joined by Red and Blue from Overly Sarcastic Productions to gush about the first season of "My Adventures with Superman".

We're visited from Jala-chan's place by Jala-chan herself and she brought goodies! In this case, she's paying off a vow to spread the word of Hitman issue 34, a famed emotional exchange between Superman and a fan (who happens to be an assassin). Find Jala-chan at her place!

Case has raved about the 90s anthology "Superheroes" a lot on this show and it's finally time to talk about one of the most memorable. In this case, Case got to even chat with the author! Case and Jmike are joined by Keith Lehtinen for a conversation about Reflected Glory with an interview with comics legend, Paul Kupperberg!

We’re going BACK to the FUTURE! Jim Fetters joins Jmike and Case for a look at Alan Davis and Mark Farmer’s 30th Century followup to JLA: The Nail, Superboy’s Legion!

Back in the day, Case and Jmike teamed up with a bunch of other podcasters to do a 4 part review of Zack Snyder's Justice League. Collected here is all 4 parts!

We’re back with another Pop Quiz as Jmike tries to pick Case’s brain for one last pre-Baby Brain time!

Let's wrap up our discussion of the Death of Superman with a look back on the classic "Imaginary Story" that asked how the writer who co-created Superman would have killed the Man of Steel. Case and Jmike are joined by comics historian Alan Kistler for a conversation about the Silver Age tale.

Back in the day (we won’t say how far back), Case was a playwright with a fledgling theater company called JustASK Productions and he would write plays about nerd stuff. Here’s a monologue he did about the death of Superman, as read by Geoff Moonen, with a discussion about the New York Theatre Scene of the Aughts. BONUS: Stay tuned for the WORST DRESS REHEARSAL STORY EVER! You might think you have a worse one, but you are wrong.

We’re doing a CROSSOVER with “‘Fun’ and Games with Matt and Geoff” because we’re talking about the 16-bit Death and Return of Superman beat ‘em up, baby!

Superman is dead! Yet four beings claiming to be Superman have risen to take his place! JD Martin is back to talk with Case and Jmike about the 2019 animated adaptation to the classic tale!

Each of the pretenders left an impression, but none could truly live up to the real deal. Zach Herring joins us again to conclude the comic storyline of Superman’s journey back to the land of the living.

Superman defined the modern superhero, but his death and subsequent impersonation by 4 pretenders opened the doors for him to be reassessed through a lens of a redefined modernity. Zach Herring returns to discuss the uncertain time of the Reign of the Supermen!

It's easy to focus on big stories like the final stand of a great hero, but it's also important to tell the tale of those that are left behind to pick up the pieces! From the "We Have Issues" podcast (not to mention our new sibling show, "Jukebox Vertigo"!), we are joined by Keith Lehtinen to discuss the "Funeral For A Friend" arc that followed the "Death of Superman"!

There have been many attempts to bring the infamous battle between Superman and Doomsday to other formats, but the 2018 animated adaptation is the one to finally nail it! Duke joins us for a conversation about this brutal rendition.

For half of a century, Superman was an implacable force for good who overcame every foe, but his confrontation with the force of destruction known as Doomsday ended with mutual destruction. From The Inks and Issues podcast, Kieran Bennett joins Case and Jmike for a look back on the battle that tempered the Man of Steel!