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Experience oriented podcast telling stories about interesting people and places throughout Arizona.

Experience oriented podcast telling stories about interesting people and places throughout Arizona.


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Experience oriented podcast telling stories about interesting people and places throughout Arizona.




Season 4 Recap

Another great season is in the books! Join all of us at Lake Pleasant and we discuss some of our favorite parts from this past season.


Out Of Africa Wildlife Park

“You know you are truly alive when you’re living among lions.” ― Isak Dinesen, Out Of Africa. Dean and Prayeri Harrison, founders of Out Of Africa wildlife park in Camp Verde, AZ are examples of what it means to be truly alive. There is truly something unique and refreshing about the way they approach this life. The idea that we live in world dictated by the laws of nature and not of man is evident in how they interact with all the animals on site. It's truly fascinating and something that...


The Haunted Group

Is it possible to have too much of a good thing? If you’ve been to any of The Haunted Group restaurants you know the answer is no. We have yet to find a Haunted Group restaurant concept that we have not loved. The same is also true for this episode which we had the pleasure of welcoming two guests. We met Author Roger Naylor for breakfast along with his good friend and co-founder of The Haunted Group Eric Jurisin. The food and drink at Crema in old town Cottonwood was not the only memorable...


55 Years of Racing - The Larry Ogburn Story

'Start your engines!' is a phrase that Larry Ogburn has heard for 55 years straight. We had the privilege of attending the TicketGuardian 500, now known as the FanShield 500, in March of 2019 as a guest of Protecht to document his amazing story. FanShield is created by fans for fans and nothing could be more evident by the hospitality they provided in making the whole experience possible. Special thanks to Larry Ogburn, NASCAR, ISM Raceway, GoodFellas Merch and of course Protecht. Enjoy!...


Arcosanti: An Urban Laboratory

Laboratories are facilities that allow research, experiments or measurements to be performed. Arcosanti is an Urban Laboratory located in central Arizona. Paolo Soleri started the project with an idea to demonstrate an alternative to urban sprawl. It's an attempt to show how a city can develop and thrive within the beauty and landscape around it. Tim Bell, Director of Communications at Arcosanti, shares the vision of and the continued work that is being done at Arcosanti. We recorded on site...


Verde Lea Market Deli and Grill

In this episode of the podcast Rob, Steph, and our good friend Roger Naylor sit down with Bill Murray, Chief Flattery Officer and co-owner of the Verde Lea Market Deli and Grill on Main St in beautiful Cottonwood! This quaint market has a been in the area since the 1980’s and Bill and his wife Missy have owned it since 2003. It is known to locals and the foodie who loves scouting out local treasures. Bill and Roger swap stories about burgers, tortas, and the Cottonwood community, while...


Verde Canyon Railroad

All aboard! We were lucky enough to ride one of the last 'Starlight Tours' of the season. Departing from Clarkdale, AZ aboard the wonderfully refurbished train cars, we traveled through the beautiful Arizona scenery that is the Verde Canyon. The 'Starlight Tour' leaves in late afternoon shortly before sundown. It allows plenty of time to take in the striking scenery around you on the way out from the depot. The return trip takes you back to a simpler time where the stars shined brighter...


State Forty Eight Credit Card Launch Event

We had the pleasure of spending the evening with some folks who share the same love and passion for the state and community we call home. We ventured to The Churchill in downtown Phoenix, part of the Roosevelt Row art district that our friends from Season 3 The FOUND:RE hotel, Fair Trade Cafe and The Nash jazz club call home. The Churchill is uniquely Phoenix and is comprised of recycled commercial shipping containers housing many small businesses. One of those small businesses is State...


Author Roger Naylor

We kick off Season 4 with a bang! We had the honor and pleasure of spending the day with Roger Naylor. Roger is writer whose work can be found in his many books, The Arizona Republic, and state publications. After breakfast at Crema, one of The Haunted Groups many delicious Cottonwood restaurants, we travel to Dead Horse Ranch State Park just a few minutes from Old Town Cottonwood. Rather than attempting to write about the man who makes a living doing just that, enjoy our conversation with...


Season 3 Recap

We sit down for food, drink and conversation at Red's Bar and Grill located at the Wigwam Resort in Litchfield Park. Reds has become the regular stop for each of our season’s final episodes. Next time you stop at Reds, make sure you ask for our new friend Rhianna who took great care of us! Season 3 brought with it some great guests and stories from all corners of the Valley. One meal is not nearly enough time to share all that we loved about this past season. We simply scrape the surface and...


The Rosson House at Heritage Square

In this weeks episode, the final before our recap, we had the pleasure of taking a personal tour of the Rosson House at Heritage Square in downtown Phoenix. Heritage Square is home to renown restaurants such as Pizzeria Bianco and Nobuo at Teeter House, right next door to the Arizona Science Center. When you think of Phoenix often images of cowboys, cacti and rattlesnakes come to mind. Rarely would one associate the Victorian Era with Phoenix, a trip through the Rosson House will change that...


Artist Hugo Medina: 'Go Ahead, Touch It'

“Go Ahead, touch it” I know this is an awkward title for a podcast, but it is not every day an artist suggests you touch his paintings. At most art exhibits you’d admire the beauty of the work with your eyes. Hugo’s exhibit also appeals to our other senses. Rob had the opportunity to interview valley artist Hugo Medina following his recent art exhibit at the Arizona Capital Museum. Hugo’s work can be seen throughout the Valley including several murals in downtown Phoenix. One of these murals...


State Forty Eight: Clothing for all, Inspired by Arizona

State Forty Eight is more than just a t-shirt company, it’s a movement recognized around and beyond the state it calls home. Started in 2013 by Michael, Stephen and Nicholas the brand was born from their love and appreciation for Arizona. They are a brand dedicated to bringing quality clothing for all, inspired by Arizona. As you gather from its name, State Forty Eight takes pride on its Arizona roots. Whether it is our states colors, animals, sports franchises or flag you’ll find it...


Fair Trade Cafe: Coffee With a Conscience

Rob along with our special guest host from LocalFirst AZ Kendall Jones enjoy a cup of coffee with Stephanie Vasquez at her Fair Trade Coffee shop on Roosevelt Row in Phoenix Arizona. At Fair Trade ‘coffee with a conscience’ is not simply a phrase or a marketing piece rather its a way of life. Stephanie is a former education and after some travels she felt led to open a coffee shop. A shop that focuses on the fair trade of coffee beans, organic ingredients and quality above all else. The shop...


FOUND:RE Hotel Phoenix

This weeks episode was spent with Burtney at the beautiful and unique FOUND:RE Hotel Phoenix. You may think that you need to go to LA or New York to experience a true ‘art hotel’ but you’d be wrong. This boutique hotel is located in downtown Phoenix just off the Central and Roosevelt light rail station. It holds a uniquely Arizona feel that draws its inspiration from the Roosevelt art district it resides in. We had the pleasure of spending time with catering sales manager Julie Whyman and...


Fry Building: Marriage, Murder & Mischief

This weeks episode is full of murder, mystery, and mischief all dating back to Arizona’s territorial times. We met up with our new friend Mike Bell at Majerle’s Sports Grill in downtown Phoenix. What he shared with us was the completion of his research on the colorful and fascinating past of the historic Fry Building that Thunder Dan’s namesake restaurant calls home. It's a true wild west story that tells the tale of a woman that journeyed to Arizona for a new life and through some savvy...


The Nash: Jazz Happens Here

Improvisation is defined as creating something not previously planned or scripted. The idea of improvising is evident throughout and is one of the bedrocks of jazz music. The Nash jazz venue provides 300 shows a year in which you can experience the musical expression that all can appreciate, born out of improvising. The clubs namesake is Arizona native Lewis Nash, a celebrated jazz musician. The Nash motto is ‘Jazz Happens Here’, this was obvious from the moment we walked through the door....


Arizona Capitol Museum

We're back with season 3! Rob has the privilege of taking a personal tour of the Arizona Capitol Museum, located in located in the 1901 Arizona Territorial and State Capitol Building. Robs tour guides for the evening are Dorie Hanson the museums Chief Administrator, Stephanie Mahan the Assistant Director and Naomi Primeau Digital Media Coordinator. In this episode Stephanie and Naomi are the 'Native's' and Dorie is 'Not So' yet they all share a love and passion for our great 48th state. The...


Season 2 Recap

It's crazy to think that we wrapped season 2 of our podcast already. This season took us outside Phoenix to experience just a few of the beauties and adventures that Arizona has to offer. Just a few hours up the I17 we had the pleasure of spending time in Flagstaff, Williams, Seligman, and Peach Springs. Each visit we enjoyed new experiences but best of all we were able to meet new friends and help tell their stories. On this final episode of the season Rob and I enjoy great food, drink, and...


The Guardian Angel of Route 66: Angel Delgadillo

We sit down for a conversation with living legend, ‘The Guardian Angel of Route 66’, ’Mayor of the Mother Road’, and (as we have now dubbed him) the 'Rockstar of Seligman' Angel Delgadillo. History will tell you that no one individual was more influential in saving Route 66 and consequently the towns along the mother road than Angel. As you’ll hear throughout the interview Angel believes in the power of the people. His story and movement is proof that ‘We The People’ can enact change even...