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Experience oriented podcast telling stories about interesting people and places throughout Arizona.

Experience oriented podcast telling stories about interesting people and places throughout Arizona.
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Experience oriented podcast telling stories about interesting people and places throughout Arizona.




Season 2 Recap

It's crazy to think that we wrapped season 2 of our podcast already. This season took us outside Phoenix to experience just a few of the beauties and adventures that Arizona has to offer. Just a few hours up the I17 we had the pleasure of spending time in Flagstaff, Williams, Seligman, and Peach Springs. Each visit we enjoyed new experiences but best of all we were able to meet new friends and help tell their stories. On this final episode of the season Rob and I enjoy great food, drink, and...


The Guardian Angel of Route 66: Angel Delgadillo

We sit down for a conversation with living legend, ‘The Guardian Angel of Route 66’, ’Mayor of the Mother Road’, and (as we have now dubbed him) the 'Rockstar of Seligman' Angel Delgadillo. History will tell you that no one individual was more influential in saving Route 66 and consequently the towns along the mother road than Angel. As you’ll hear throughout the interview Angel believes in the power of the people. His story and movement is proof that ‘We The People’ can enact change even...


Grand Canyon Caverns

If you were looking for somewhere that you could arrive in your private plane or helicopter, stay in an RV one night, a motel the next, enjoy some great food, visit some dinosaurs, have a glass of wine or beer in a prehistoric cave, some more good food and delicious giant pies, hunt some ghosts, then finish off the last night sleeping in one of the worlds most unique hotel rooms 220 feet under the ground? Stop searching because we found the only place where you can experience all this and...


Grand Canyon Deer Farm

Rob and Stephanie finished their weekend trip in Williams with a visit to the beautiful animals of the Grand Canyon Deer Farm. Pat George, who is the owner and operator of the Deer Farm, was kind enough to walk with and narrate as Rob and Stephanie journeyed through the park. Situated just 60 miles south of the Grand Canyon National Park the farm came to be in 1969 which makes the park 50 years young. This farm has more than just reindeers who 'snowbird' from the North Pole, in fact the...


Mayor John Moore

When you think about the wild west thoughts of men like Wyatt Earp or Zane Grey may come to mind. After this episode you can add Mayor John Moore to that list of names. Large brim cowboy hats are not the only hats John Moore wears. Currently serving as Mayor, he previously held the title of Police Chief and provided entertainment to the good people of Williams, Arizona. Rob and Stephanie got the opportunity to sit down for conversation and drink with John in the saloon of his Wild West...


Canyon Motel and RV Park

This week Rob and Stephanie spent time with Shirley from The Canyon Motel & RV park in Williams, Arizona. The motel is located right off the historic Route 66. Not only is the Canyon Motel situtated in the beautiful landscape of Williams but it's also the only place where you can stay in a real train car. Experience Americana on Route 66 and stay the night in a caboose that once carried people across country. So enjoy the conversation with Shirley and be sure to visit next time you're in...


Fort Bearizona

In Part 2 of our Bearizona special Dave O'Connell takes Rob and Stephanie on a stroll through Fort Bearizona. In addition to the drive through portion of the park you featured last week Bearizona has a separate walk-through area full of wildlife. We explore the different exhibits and animals along the way with Dave introducing each by name. Enjoy. Special Guest: Dave O'Connell.


Bearizona Wildlife Park

In this weeks episode of the Not So Native podcast Rob is joined by a special guest host, his wife. Stephanie Lamb chose to tolerate him for a family vacation up north to Williams and Flagstaff. Their first stop was Bearizona in Williams where Dave O’Connell was kind enough to provide a guided tour through the park. If you’re looking for a professionally narrated tour look no further than this episode. Anything to be known about the park and its beautiful wildlife occupants Dave is the man...


The Valentine State

Sweetheart State. Valentine State. Do you know how Arizona came to be known by those names? I'll give you a hint. Arizona turned 107 years young on February 14th, 2019. In this episode Rob shares an article written by Jana Bommersbach originally for the Arizona Republic during Arizonas Centennial Birthday celebration. The article shares the journey Arizona took from territory to statehood and the bumps along the way....


Season 1 Recap

In this episode we travel all the way to north Peoria where we enjoy wine and cigars on Robs back porch. We spend the time sharing what motivated us to start the podcast and what we’ve learned throughout this inaugural season. We also share some of our favorite moments spent with our guests and experiences we’ve shared. Now one cigar and a bottle of wine does does not provide enough time to share all the experiences we gained throughout the season, we simply scratched the surface. We also...


Saddle Mountain Brewing Company

We spend some time with Laura Hansen in the brewhouse of her Goodyear restaurant, Saddle Mountain Brewing Company. Laura shares the history of what led her and her husband Jacob to open this delicious and unique space in October of 2014. From the award winning brews, great food and chic restaurant decor all come with a story and a purpose. If you like beer and delicious food you’d be crazy to not check out Saddle Mountain again and again. In fact, after our interview with Laura we made sure...


Litchfield Park Historical Society

In this weeks episode we tour the Litchfield Park Historical Society Museum located on the grounds of the former Litchfield mansion. Judy Cook, who is a board member and caretaker of the museum, guides us through the many exhibits that tell the origin stories of Litchfield Park, Goodyear and the surrounding areas. Judy expands upon many of the stories we heard last week about the founding of the Wigwam and how they have impacted the rest of the surrounding community. Goodyear and Litchfield...


Wigwam Arizona

In this episode of the Not So Native Podcast we sit down with the Social Media and Marketing Manager of the beautiful 4-Star Wigwam Resort, Sarah Boyd. The Wigwam’s luxurious history in Litchfield Park starts shortly after Arizona’s joining of the lower 48, before many of the valleys other well known luxury resorts like the Phoenician and Biltmore, and decades before Phoenix became the sprawling metropolis it is today. We spend the majority of our time together in the Organization House of...


8-Bit Aleworks

In this episode of the Not So Native Podcast we sit down with Emmy winner (yes that Emmy) and Arizona native Ryan Whitten who is the owner, founder, and head brewer of 8-Bit Aleworks. Ryan along with his wife Krystina opened 8-Bit in May of 2015 in Avondale, Arizona. 8-Bit is not just another hipster craft brewery complete with beard oil and handlebar mustaches (side note: if either one of us could grow facial hair worthy of beard oil we would gladly partake) rather it comes from a time...


ISM Raceway

After a few hot laps around the track we sit down for an interview with Greg Fresquez from ISM Raceway in Avondale, AZ. He describes some of the many changes for this racing season from the beautiful $178 million renovation completed at the former Phoenix International Raceway. Besides the many noticable and beautifully constructed changes that all race fans will recognize this coming season Greg educates us on some American history located close the the track. He points out a geological...