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Experience oriented podcast telling stories about interesting people and places throughout Arizona.

Experience oriented podcast telling stories about interesting people and places throughout Arizona.


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Experience oriented podcast telling stories about interesting people and places throughout Arizona.




Pine-Strawberry Season 6 Recap

Rob and Aaron do what they do best. Sit around smoking cigars, drinking whiskey and talking.


Pine Strawberry Museum

Rob and Aaron get a personal tour from Mel Clement, President of the Pine-Strawberry Archaeological And Historical Society. Mel is a third generation Arizona native and a direct descendent from some of Pine-Strawberry's original settlers. Join us on this journey through the museum and make sure to stop by and support Mel and the rest of the volunteers efforts during your next trip to the rim.


Sky's in Pine

‘Sky’s in Pine’ is home to some of the most beautiful and unique furniture on the market. Like all things on our podcast we knew there was a story behind the shop and we sit down with the namesake and master craftsman of the shop Ron ‘Sky’ Davidson. We were lucky enough to spend time with Sky to hear the why behind the shop and how these unique furnitures pieces came to be. Enjoy this conversation and stop by Sky’s next time on your trip to Pine. Special Guest: Ron Davidson.


The Honey Stand

If you’ve driven the 87 through Pine you’ve likely seen the sign for ‘The Honey Stand’. And if you made the decision to stop and browse the delicious selection of honey and other delectable treats you certainly weren’t disappointed. As you would guess ‘The Honey Stand’ has honey of all shapes and sizes but honey isn’t the only thing they carry. They also have some delicious fresh salsas, jam’s, jellies, bee pollen and butters to name a few. We’ve been customers of the stand and we’re...


Chef Mike Dahling of Old County Inn

When you think delicious wood fired pizza you may not think Pine, Arizona. After spending some time with Chef Mike Dahling you should. Chef Mike Dahling along with his wife Jessie own and operate Old County Inn, Pinewood Tavern and Pine Provisions Delicatessen and Bottle Shop located in Pine, Arizona. Old County was their first restaurant in Pine and the pizza is among the best in Arizona, which is no stranger to great pizza. Arizona regularly has names among the best pizza in the country...


Pine Creek Canyon Lavender Farm

The best thing about this podcast is the opportunity to meet new friends and hear the why behind their story. This was certainly true with our new friends Terry and Rick from Pine Creek Canyon Lavender Farm in Pine, Arizona. The restorations that Terry and Rick have made to the historic property preserved the legacy of the original homestead all while repurposing the ground for something unique and refreshing. In addition to the wonderful scent we learned of the many uses and types of...


The Strawberry Inn

We’re back! After the last couple of years we’ve all had, we deserve to get back out on the road and I can’t think of a much better place for that adventure to start than at the Strawberry Inn. We had the pleasure of chatting with owner Amber Eilers after our stay at the Inn in mid September. Located off highway 87 in the beautiful pines of the Arizona rim country sits the Strawberry Inn. This beautiful boutique hotel is as unique and inviting as the landscape around it. Through our travels...


Ten55 Brewing Company

Ten55 Brewing Company in Tucson, Arizona.


Chef Maria Mazon of BOCA Tacos y Tequila

We sit with the wonderful human and renown Chef Maria Mazon of BOCA Tacos y Tequila in Tucson, Arizona. Being an Arizona native I have tasted many tacos in my life and BOCA's may be the best ones yet. Never have I had the chance to enjoy tacos in front of the chef that crafted the recipes and truly describe the tastes that we were enjoying. It was indeed an experience second to none. Enjoy this episode with awesome person and chef Maria. Make a trip to the old pueblo and enjoy some of the...


Dennis Arnold of Barrio Brewing Co.

We were lucky enough to be able to enjoy some great beer and conversation with Dennis Arnold. Dennis and his wife founded Arizona's oldest brewery Barrio Brewing Co. ( Even though we just met Dennis that evening it felt as though we were catching up with an old friend. The friendly atmosphere is felt through Barrio’s employees and the building itself. In fact, Dennis designed the bar to have enough area that he would have room to stand and enjoy drink and...


Season 4 Recap

Another great season is in the books! Join all of us at Lake Pleasant and we discuss some of our favorite parts from this past season.


Out Of Africa Wildlife Park

“You know you are truly alive when you’re living among lions.” ― Isak Dinesen, Out Of Africa. Dean and Prayeri Harrison, founders of Out Of Africa wildlife park in Camp Verde, AZ are examples of what it means to be truly alive. There is truly something unique and refreshing about the way they approach this life. The idea that we live in world dictated by the laws of nature and not of man is evident in how they interact with all the animals on site. It's truly fascinating and something that...


The Haunted Group

Is it possible to have too much of a good thing? If you’ve been to any of The Haunted Group restaurants you know the answer is no. We have yet to find a Haunted Group restaurant concept that we have not loved. The same is also true for this episode which we had the pleasure of welcoming two guests. We met Author Roger Naylor for breakfast along with his good friend and co-founder of The Haunted Group Eric Jurisin. The food and drink at Crema in old town Cottonwood was not the only memorable...


55 Years of Racing - The Larry Ogburn Story

'Start your engines!' is a phrase that Larry Ogburn has heard for 55 years straight. We had the privilege of attending the TicketGuardian 500, now known as the FanShield 500, in March of 2019 as a guest of Protecht to document his amazing story. FanShield is created by fans for fans and nothing could be more evident by the hospitality they provided in making the whole experience possible. Special thanks to Larry Ogburn, NASCAR, ISM Raceway, GoodFellas Merch and of course Protecht. Enjoy!...


Arcosanti: An Urban Laboratory

Laboratories are facilities that allow research, experiments or measurements to be performed. Arcosanti is an Urban Laboratory located in central Arizona. Paolo Soleri started the project with an idea to demonstrate an alternative to urban sprawl. It's an attempt to show how a city can develop and thrive within the beauty and landscape around it. Tim Bell, Director of Communications at Arcosanti, shares the vision of and the continued work that is being done at Arcosanti. We recorded on site...


Verde Lea Market Deli and Grill

In this episode of the podcast Rob, Steph, and our good friend Roger Naylor sit down with Bill Murray, Chief Flattery Officer and co-owner of the Verde Lea Market Deli and Grill on Main St in beautiful Cottonwood! This quaint market has a been in the area since the 1980’s and Bill and his wife Missy have owned it since 2003. It is known to locals and the foodie who loves scouting out local treasures. Bill and Roger swap stories about burgers, tortas, and the Cottonwood community, while...


Verde Canyon Railroad

All aboard! We were lucky enough to ride one of the last 'Starlight Tours' of the season. Departing from Clarkdale, AZ aboard the wonderfully refurbished train cars, we traveled through the beautiful Arizona scenery that is the Verde Canyon. The 'Starlight Tour' leaves in late afternoon shortly before sundown. It allows plenty of time to take in the striking scenery around you on the way out from the depot. The return trip takes you back to a simpler time where the stars shined brighter...


State Forty Eight Credit Card Launch Event

We had the pleasure of spending the evening with some folks who share the same love and passion for the state and community we call home. We ventured to The Churchill in downtown Phoenix, part of the Roosevelt Row art district that our friends from Season 3 The FOUND:RE hotel, Fair Trade Cafe and The Nash jazz club call home. The Churchill is uniquely Phoenix and is comprised of recycled commercial shipping containers housing many small businesses. One of those small businesses is State...


Author Roger Naylor

We kick off Season 4 with a bang! We had the honor and pleasure of spending the day with Roger Naylor. Roger is writer whose work can be found in his many books, The Arizona Republic, and state publications. After breakfast at Crema, one of The Haunted Groups many delicious Cottonwood restaurants, we travel to Dead Horse Ranch State Park just a few minutes from Old Town Cottonwood. Rather than attempting to write about the man who makes a living doing just that, enjoy our conversation with...


Season 3 Recap

We sit down for food, drink and conversation at Red's Bar and Grill located at the Wigwam Resort in Litchfield Park. Reds has become the regular stop for each of our season’s final episodes. Next time you stop at Reds, make sure you ask for our new friend Rhianna who took great care of us! Season 3 brought with it some great guests and stories from all corners of the Valley. One meal is not nearly enough time to share all that we loved about this past season. We simply scrape the surface and...