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The RegenNarration podcast features the stories of a generation that is changing the story, enabling the regeneration of life on this planet. It’s ad-free, freely available and entirely listener-supported. You'll hear from high profile and grass-roots leaders from around Australia and the world, on how they're changing the stories we live by, and the systems we create in their mold. Along with often very personal tales of how they themselves are changing, in the places they call home. With award-winning host, Anthony James.

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The RegenNarration podcast features the stories of a generation that is changing the story, enabling the regeneration of life on this planet. It’s ad-free, freely available and entirely listener-supported. You'll hear from high profile and grass-roots leaders from around Australia and the world, on how they're changing the stories we live by, and the systems we create in their mold. Along with often very personal tales of how they themselves are changing, in the places they call home. With award-winning host, Anthony James.

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English


Episodes

The Vital Transitions in Energy Beyond Electrifying Everything: Tim Fisher on sun, surf & sympathy

3/3/2024
Tim Fisher is the eldest son of the late Professor Frank Fisher. You’ve heard Frank’s name a bit on this podcast, legendary systems thinking educator in Australia – and good mate over the last dozen or so years of his life. Twice my good fortune was meeting Tim, and keeping in touch over the years. Tim is a wealth of experience, grace and salience in his own right. So, returning to Melbourne to see family for the first time in years, it seemed a good time to visit this extended family of sorts, and press record on a long-awaited chat about his fascinating life, dice with death, and vital work. Tim has run publications across media platforms, government agencies and non-profits. He’s edited and written for the ABC, SBS, The Age, Broadsheet, Smith Journal, Surfing World, Surfer, Triple J, White Horses, Patagonia and more. As a board member of Psychology for a Safe Climate and a member of Surfers for Climate, he devotes much of his time to storytelling and communication around climate change. Especially on the bigger and often unseen picture of energy transition – including the opportunities and needs beyond electrifying everything. To that end, he’s currently Head of Communications at the Energy Efficiency Council, with the ear of the federal government, and a major conference in May featuring international keynote Amory Lovins. We talk about all this – life, death, growing up with Frank, surf, media and energy transitions – and emerge with some consistent threads of success, and possibilities to go on with. You’ll hear some listener mail at the end too. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on Apple and some other apps, and the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). Recorded on 24 February 2024. Title slide: Anthony & Tim. See more photos on the episode web page, and to see more from behind the scenes, become a member via the Patreon page. Music: Green Shoots, by The Nomadics. Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, from the film Regenerating Australia. The RegenNarration playlist, featuring music chosen by guests (with thanks to podcast member Josie Symons). Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:01:03:12

Regenerating Life, the Movie: How to cool the planet, feed the world & live happily ever after, with John Feldman

2/25/2024
Regenerating Life is a new feature-length documentary that takes a fresh look at solving the climate crisis - and everything else. Internationally acclaimed New York filmmaker John Feldman recently premiered it in the US (where recent podcast guest Judith Schwartz featured on the panel). He’s now about to accompany its premiere in Europe. The film shifts away from the narrative that burning fossil fuels is the primary cause of the climate crisis – seeing that as just one symptom, significant as it is, of humankind’s relentless destruction of nature as a whole. This is because it’s the vast biodiversity on this planet that regulates and balances the climate. And the key take home? We can and are reversing this destructive process by Regenerating Life. The film is also a kind of tribute to a much-loved Aussie scientist, Walter Jehne. And John talks here about his own transformation with varied projects and other legends in systemic thinking over the decades. Some feature in this film, like Vandana Shiva, Wes Jackson, Didi Pershouse, Satish Kumar and Naima Penniman. At the close, a special feature, with music made for the film by John’s wife, renowned composer Sheila Silver. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on Apple and some other apps, and the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). Recorded 16 February 2024. Title slide: John Feldman (supplied). See more photos on the episode web page, and to see more from behind the scenes, become a member via the Patreon page. Music: Green Shoots, by The Nomadics. Music from the film by Sheila Silver, with piano by Sheila and violin by Emmanuel Vukovich. The RegenNarration playlist, featuring music chosen by guests (with thanks to podcast member Josie Symons). Find more: Regenerating Life website with trailer, more on John, and how you can see and screen the film. The composition Shooting Ruminants (partly inspired by the Kachana Station story), part of Resilient Earth by Sheila Silver. My conversation with Tony Rinaudo for episode 64. Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:01:00:55

192. The River Is Our Blood: Kate McBride, Zach Bush MD & Dr Pran Yoganathan at the Reconnection Festival

2/19/2024
We’re back at the Reconnection Festival for the last of three inter-related panel conversations, each building on the other. This one's on health, and features explosive revelations about a ‘Motor Neuron Disease alley’ linked to pollution and river degeneration in Australia’s Riverina agricultural district. Akin to the ‘cancer alley’ of the Mississippi River that transformed the life of our international guest, Zach Bush MD. Zach went on to found US not-for-profit Farmer’s Footprint, and has now shepherded it to five countries so far, including Farmer’s Footprint Australia. Australia’s MND alley is just part of what Kate McBride is reporting on, and living, as a researcher with The Australia Institute and 5th generation farmer, born and bred on the half-million-acre Tolarno Station on the Darling Barka River. She came to national prominence unintentionally as the river ran dry and ongoing fish kills have followed. Dr Pran Yoganathan, a Gastroenterologist and renowned voice of the 'regenerative medical movement', and also now a farmer, shares his experiences within the medical system in this context. Our guests bring to light the urgency of revisiting our approach to medicine and agriculture, and everything else, and how we can do it. We hear profound stories of embracing our cultural roots, generating greater community advocacy, and collaborating across diverse viewpoints, right into the halls of power. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on Apple and some other apps, and the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). Recorded in the northern rivers of NSW on 11 November 2023. Title slide: AJ, Zach, Pran & Kate (pic: Olivia Katz). See more photos on the episode web page, and to see more from behind the scenes, become a member via the Patreon page. Music: Green Shoots, by The Nomadics. Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, from the film Regenerating Australia. The RegenNarration playlist, featuring music chosen by guests (with thanks to podcast member Josie Symons). Find more: You can hear more of Zach in conversation with Tanya Massy, Ella Noah Bancroft and myself the year prior for episode 152. Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:59:23

191. Huge Opportunity: Original Haggerty farm for sale

2/15/2024
Welcome to the first of our mid-week specials. This is one of the experiments I want to try this year. Short grab releases featuring particular opportunities, stories or updates. There are just so many coming on, I hope this helps you to access them, and all of us to build on them. As ever, you’ll let me know what you think! First up then, a huge opportunity in the wheatbelt of WA. The Haggerty family have put their original ‘home’ property up for sale. This is where they developed the foundation of their globally renowned ‘natural intelligence farming’ model over a few decades. Here they share with us some of the what, why and how of the sale, along with a sense of the enormous possibilities on offer. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on Apple and some other apps, and the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This was recorded on 8 February 2024. Title slide: the view Ian talks about (pic: Anthony James). See more photos on the episode web page, and to see more from behind the scenes, become a member via the Patreon page. Music: Green Shoots, by The Nomadics. Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, from the film Regenerating Australia. The RegenNarration playlist, featuring music chosen by guests (with thanks to podcast member Josie Symons). Find more: Flyer with contact for the sale, viewable on the episode webpage. The real estate agent’s page for the property. Di’s LinkedIn page (with email). The new Natural Intelligence Farming page on LinkedIn. The amazing Miller and Baker in North Perth, mentioned in this conversation and featured on episode 69. You can hear more of Di and Ian in conversation with Anthony most recently for episode 142. Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:22:10

190. A Feast of Transformation: Laura Dalrymple, Matthew Evans & Darren Doherty at the Reconnection Festival

2/12/2024
Feast on our next conversation at the Reconnection Festival, the largest gathering of the regenerative movement in this country to date. This time, we’re talking food, for which the 800 people present were joined by a few more visionaries: Feather and BoneFat Pig FarmRegrarians The general trajectory of the conversation was ‘what’s hot, what’s not, what’s working and what’s next?’ It broaches some of the tough stuff regarding how we navigate the complexities of the global food system to foster a healthier society and planet? This includes challenges related to meat debates, food production health crises, and economic barriers. We also delve into the treasure trove of stuff that’s working well. Which sums to a call to further reconnect with the journey of our food from farm to fork (and far beyond), even amidst financial hurdles and a world in flux. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on Apple and some other apps, and the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This was recorded live at the Green Room stage of the BluesFest venue in the northern rivers of NSW on 11 November 2023. Title slide L-R: Anthony, Darren, Matthew and Laura (pic: Olivia Katz). See more photos on the episode web page, and to see more from behind the scenes, become a member via the Patreon page. Music: Green Shoots, by The Nomadics. Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, from the film Regenerating Australia. The RegenNarration playlist, featuring music chosen by guests (with thanks to podcast member Josie Symons). Find more: Farmer’s Footprint Australia. You can hear more of Matthew Evans with Anthony for episode 60, on his book On Eating Meat, and episode 138 on his following book Soil (by a very active Swan River / Derbal Yerrigan in Perth / Boorloo). Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:58:21

189. Cultural Reconnection: Live with Dr Amanda Cahill, Jade Miles & Isira Aunty Jinta at the Reconnection Festival

2/5/2024
We head over to the eastern-most point of Australia this week, for the largest gathering of the regenerative movement in this country to date. Join us at the Reconnection Festival, staged by Farmer’s Footprint Australia in November last year. We sit with a panel of three visionary women, for a conversation on culture that laid a foundation for everything that followed. Two of our panellists are previous podcast guests: Dr Amanda Cahill, CEO and founder of The Next Economy, and Jade Miles, CEO of Sustainable Table and farmer and author at Black Barn Farm. They were joined here by Indigenous elder Isira, known as Aunty Jinta. This was one of my favourite conversations last year, and in many ways lays a foundation for this year too. There are profound insights shared here into the cultural bedrock necessary for nurturing life on Earth. Our guests faced some wrenching dilemmas at the time too, providing a powerful launching point for exploring what might actually offer ways through our most trenchant impasses, to beneficial transformations. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on Apple and some other apps, and the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This was recorded live in the northern rivers of NSW on 11 November 2023. Title slide L-R: Anthony, Amanda, Jade & Isira (pic: Olivia Katz). See more photos on the episode web page, and to see more from behind the scenes, become a member via the Patreon page. Music: Green Shoots, by The Nomadics. Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, from the film Regenerating Australia. The RegenNarration playlist, featuring music chosen by guests (with thanks to podcast member Josie Symons). Find more: Amanda Cahill also features in conversation with Anthony at her home on episode 134. Jade Miles chats with Anthony at her farm on episode 128 (and with Rachel Ward live in Margaret River in episode 180). Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:53:30

188. The Regeneration Rhapsody: Success Stories of Soil & Spirit from the Margaret River Conference (Day 2)

1/29/2024
Join us at the grand finale of the 2023 Regenerative Agriculture Conference in Margaret River WA. Following on from last week, today we’re with another all-star panel. And again, we’ve no predetermined agenda, but to reflect on what had gone before, and what might come next. Dr Judi EarlRowan ReidKristy Stewartepisode 132Grant Sims Our guests are not just talking about change; they're living it, transforming the very soil we stand on, food we eat, water we drink, clothes we wear, air we breathe, livelihoods we make, and communities we belong to. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on Apple and some other apps, and the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This was recorded on 7 September 2023. Title slide L-R: Kristy, Rowan, Grant & Judi (pic: Daniela Tommasi). See more photos on the episode web page, and to see more from behind the scenes, become a member via the Patreon page. Music: Wadandi Boodja, by The Nomadics, off their latest album. Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, from the film Regenerating Australia. The RegenNarration playlist, featuring music chosen by guests (with thanks to podcast member Josie Symons). Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:49:42

187. The Regenerative Era Ignites: Tales from the 2023 Margaret River Conference (Day 1)

1/22/2024
Welcome to the new year. And welcome to a new world, where soil renews and pastures flourish, where every bite of food embodies a philosophy of renewal. The Regenerative Era blooms, and with it, a transformative approach to our landscapes and the very sustenance of life. Join us on a journey to Margaret River, where the 2023 Regenerative Agriculture Conference ignited a beacon of hope and inspiration with a turnout of passionate souls exceeding 300. This episode is your exclusive pass to the heart of a movement, with regenerative systems pioneers forming an all-star panel that pulled no punches and had plenty of laughs along the way: This episode isn't just a recount of a conference; it's an immersion into an era that redefines our relationship with nature, a blueprint for a future where regeneration is not just a concept but a living, breathing reality. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on Apple and some other apps, and the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (please note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect). Recorded on 6 September 2023. Title slide L-R: Heidi, Terry, Rod, Ian & Di (pic: Daniela Tommasi). See more photos on the episode web page, and to see more from behind the scenes, become a member via the Patreon page. Music: Green Shoots, by The Nomadics, off their latest album. Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, from the film Regenerating Australia. The RegenNarration playlist, featuring music chosen by guests (with thanks to subscribing member Josie Symons). Find more: Hear more from Terry McCosker (and wife Pam) in ep136, Heidi Mippy in ep178, and Di & Ian Haggerty in ep142. And hear Jade Miles & Rachel Ward the night before the conference in ep180. Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:01:20:26

186. 2023 RegenNarration Soundtrack: Highlights from our guests this year

12/19/2023
Welcome to the customary package of highlights from another brilliant array of guests throughout 2023, accompanied by some of the music and sounds of Country heard along the way. Our guests were farmers, artists, First Nations, entrepreneurs, investors, former miners, migrants, health professionals, writers, journalists, facilitators, producers, consultants, researchers, diplomats, political economists, permaculturalists, market gardeners, chefs and more; some famous, many not, of all ages, from right around Australia and the world. It’s all put together here in what sums to a feast of uplift, fun, beauty, guts and love. See the website for the ‘track list’. Title image: A moment of trust, Anthony face to face with Kalahari the bull, at Kachana Station (pic: Chris Henggeler). With thanks to all the wonderful musicians who generously granted permission for their music to be heard here. Find more: To access the full catalogue of episodes, head to the website at https://www.regennarration.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for listening, have a wonderful festive season and see you again in 2024! Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:45:38

185. Achieving Consensus & Commitment to do the ‘Impossible’, with Jeff Goebel

12/12/2023
Welcome to a very special final episode for 2023. After seven years of this podcast, covering many inspiring stories, there’s clearly no mystery as to how we go about regeneration. So why is the macro story, if you like, the big picture - extinctions, emissions, inequality, health - still going the wrong way? Is there something we’re missing, for all our regenerative efforts? Something that doesn’t just help a few of us on regenerative trajectories, but all of us? Something that changes what happens, not just in the margins, but all over? Throughout the last 18 months or so, in particular, a thread has emerged on the podcast that suggests there is indeed that something, and we know how to go about that too. And my guest today, Jeff Goebel, has been at it longer than most. You might remember my recent guest on ep175, the award-winning author of The Reindeer Chronicles, Judith Schwartz, talking about him. She wrote up an incredible story in that book, of community transformation guided by Jeff, and was so inspired by it she has since set up a new initiative with him. Jeff Goebel became a Holistic Management trainer with Allan Savory in the mid-80s. But pretty soon felt it was missing something, as did Allan. Then a series of uncanny events and outstanding successes in Jeff’s life, including a pivotal experience with First Nations, set him on a path of what he calls community consensus work. He is now globally renowned for developing a highly effective program of respectful listening, visioning, and planning that attains 100% consensus - and commitment - of all parties, in all sorts of contexts. And often where human conflict and land degradation are at their worst. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (please note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This was recorded on 8 December 2023. Title slide: Jeff Goebel on Navajo land in 2013. Music: Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, off the soundtrack for the film Regenerating Australia. Find more: Community Consensus Institute. Do the Impossible. Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:01:29:04

184. After Former Ambassador’s Climate Hunger Strike: Gregory Andrews on its extraordinary & complex outcomes

12/5/2023
D’harawal man Gregory Andrews is the Former Ambassador and first Threatened Species Commissioner of Australia who went on Climate Hunger Strike outside Australia’s federal parliament for, as he put it, my kids and country. On the 16th day, he was hospitalised. And while Gregory began his recovery, a community vigil of sorts kicked in, with people taking Gregory’s place, fasting for a day each. And that’s just a hint of some of the extraordinary insight and power sparked by Gregory’s experience - as indeed the history of these sorts of experiences has often found. Though not all progressive voices, in this instance, including my federal independent MP, as it happens, Kate Chaney, were in support. We talk about all this in what became a very personal exchange about the value of what we can give of our lives, in these times. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (please note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This was recorded on 27 November 2023. Title slide: Gregory on his back patio amongst the trees in Canberra during this conversation. Music: Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, off the soundtrack for the film Regenerating Australia. Find more: Lyrebird Dreaming, Gregory’s website, including the Climate Hunger Strike petition outlining his 5 demands of the government. Songs from a Hungry Finch (Gregory’s playlist while on hunger strike). Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:01:10:50

183. Alessandro Pelizzon: On the EU adopting ecocide laws, & media to believe in

11/30/2023
Earlier this year, Associate Professor in Law, Alessandro Pelizzon, was on the podcast talking about some of the latest global paradigm shifting developments in our legal systems. A couple of weeks ago, there was another such development. The EU is going to criminalise severe environmental harms ‘comparable to ecocide’. And related to that, it’s also broaching post-growth economies. All part of broader shifts in deciding what we value most, and how our systems can best change to reflect that. With this in mind, we also go on to talk about what Alessandro is observing in our media systems - the emergence of a new phase of ‘climate-denialism’, and from some people who have great appeal to many of us, and in a variety of ways, from Elon Musk to Jordan Peterson. How to make sense of that? And to what extent might this be related to the paradigm shifts above? That leads us to the broader question, what do we do about media? We compare notes on what’s been brewing on and around the podcast lately. And to close, we get a brief update on the Resonant Earth project that Alessandro has co-founded and talked about last time. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (please note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This was recorded on 24 November 2023. Title slide: from a media release about the EU agreement (source). Music: Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, off the soundtrack for the film Regenerating Australia. Find more: Hear more from Alessandro, most recently on episode 159 in the northern rivers in April of this year (with further links): on the collapse & renewal of universities, the education we need, & latest on Rights of Nature. Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:45:10

182. My Eulogy for a Friend & Systems Thinking Legend: Celebrating the 80th birthday of Professor Frank Fisher

11/27/2023
Today is a special release ahead of this week’s scheduled episode. It was recorded with a full house of over 400 people in the main theatre at Federation Square in Melbourne, for the memorial service of my late great mate and mentor, and legend in systems thinking – and practice – in this country, Professor Frank Fisher. Mine was a humble opener for a few beautiful eulogies offered on the day. Today would be, or is, Frank’s 80th birthday. I’ve commemorated the occasion in recent years with episodes featuring fittingly special guests – from the late Hazel Henderson, to the still thriving Allan Savory, Charlie Massy and Paul Hawken. This time, for the big 8-0, I’d been imagining Frank still being here, wondering where our conversations and experiences may have gone over the years. And that took me back to this event, and the best tribute story I could muster at the time. And hard as it was, there did seem to be a bit of magic about. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (please note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This was recorded on 15 September 2012, with deep gratitude to friend and film-maker Chris Grose, who gave so much of himself without notice, to film hours of footage of Frank in the months before he died, along with this event. Title slide: from the back of the room, with Fran Macdonald speaking (credit: Rodney Dekker). See more photos on the episode web page, and to see more from behind the scenes, become a subscriber via the Patreon page. Music: Cycles, by Simon Edwards (composed for the occasion). Simon is also guitarist for the incredible Afrobiotics and Public Opinion Afro Orchestra. Find more: You can hear from Frank himself, with legendary ABC broadcaster Robyn Williams, on episode 24, The Wilderness Within. And in an interview an early podcast listener sent in, from the Serbian program on SBS radio, on episode 5: Thinking & Living in Systems. The Understandascope, founded in 2005 by Frank with cartoonist and National Living Treasure, Michael Leunig, is now home for the development of Frank’s legacy in collaboration with family, friends and former colleagues. And the book mentioned by the publisher at the end, was Frank’s anthology: Response Ability: Environment, Health & Everyd Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:12:55

181. Revolutionising Perceptions, Repurposing Donkeys & Restoring Country: With Brooke Purvis, co-founder of the Last Stop Donkey Program

11/20/2023
Brooke Purvis is a podcast listener who reached out after hearing the most recent episode with Chris Henggeler from Kachana Station last month. She wondered if she could help with the ‘donkey situation’ there. It turns out she’s co-founded something called the Last Stop Donkey Program, out of Singleton in the Hunter Valley of NSW. Brooke and husband Heath say they saw many people looking to purchase donkeys in an attempt to combat growing stock losses from dingo attacks, as donkeys are renowned for their stock protecting capabilities. Their website explains: ‘There was only one problem, donkeys are hard to come by. However, in the Northern Territory and Queensland they are classified as pests and eradication measures are in place, usually aerial culling.’ Well, we know we can add WA to the culling list, of course. So, partnering with the local school, would you believe, the Last Stop Donkey Program was born - taking in wild donkeys, re-socialising them, and training prospective owners before they purchase the donkeys. But that doesn’t begin to describe what’s happening there, only two years in. From broader education and even donkey therapy programs, to enormously positive ramifications for country and those stewarding it. From the promise of major financial benefits to farmers and the public coffers, to revolutionising how we might view so-called ‘pest’ animals in this country – right through to our Apex predator, the dingo. Along the way, the donkeys are transforming this former horse-riding champ, and the growing number of people the program is reaching. And offering the ultimate prospect of stitching our landscapes and communities back together again. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (please note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This conversation was recorded on 20 November 2023. Title slide: donkey (supplied). Music: Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, off the soundtrack for the film Regenerating Australia. Find more: Last Stop Donkey Program. Eight minute video from Landline on the ABC. Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:45:29

161 Excerpt. We Can Create a New Normal: Live panel launch for Regenerating Investment in Food & Farming

11/15/2023
This is an excerpt of one of the most pivotal conversations on the podcast this year. So many conversations since, and attempts to navigate the paradigm change talked about here, have come back to this launch event, and the stories expressed in it. Having just returned from the Re:Connection Festival in the northern rivers, and a little tour around it, I’ll have more out on the podcast soon about some of this trailblazing work going on. This conversation marked the launch of a major report and project by not-for-profit outfit, Sustainable Table (you might remember Jade Miles, current CEO, talking about it on last week’s episode). I’m joined here by two international guests – the CEO of Cienega Capital, Esther Park, and the CEO of Steward, Dan Miller. And alongside us are co-founder of the global Wellbeing Economy Alliance, Dr Katherine Trebeck, and regenerative farmer and lead author of the Regenerating Investment in Food and Farming report, Tanya Massy. We pick it up from about the 40 minute mark, where the panel is gathering steam with some ‘real game changers’ coming on, including stories from around the world on how and where paradigm changes in investment are being achieved right now. Then there’s Q&A featuring other prominent folk around Australia, re-framing questions of scale, working in or outside existing systems, and vital processes of learning and transformation. To hear the conversation in full, and see a range of links, head to episode 161, Regenerating Investment in Food & Farming. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully provides greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This conversation was recorded online with live audience while I was at the Massy farm, Severn Park, on 20 April 2023. Title slide: regeneration of food and farming in action (source: Sustainable Table). Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:43:15

180. We're Very Close to a Tipping Point: Rachel Ward & Jade Miles, live in Margaret River

11/7/2023
Rachel Ward is a famed actress, film-maker and now farmer. Jade Miles is the CEO of Sustainable Table, author of Futuresteading, and steward of the incredible Black Barn Farm. We shared this conversation with a live audience after a screening of Rachel’s brilliant documentary, Rachel’s Farm. It was a curtain raiser to the Regenerative Agriculture Conference in Margaret River WA, and the penultimate event of Rachel’s film tour of 30 or so locations around the country. That lent a certain perspective to this conversation – a kind of overview of the movement, and the country. And that met Jade’s vantage point, also touring the country and researching the world with a different lens, as CEO of Sustainable Table. You might recall their launch event which became episode 161 earlier this year, Regenerating Investment in Food & Farming. Unsurprisingly, talking with these two women at this time resulted in a very personal, hard-hitting, and inspired take on where things are at, what’s coming down the line, and the stories helping to make it happen. You’ll hear the 3 of us in conversation for the first 15 minutes or so, then we interweave into our chat a handful of questions from the audience - who are also among the regenerative pioneers in this country. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (please note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This conversation was recorded on 5 September 2023. Title slide: Jade Miles and Rachel Ward on stage (pic: Olivia Cheng). Music: Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, off the soundtrack for the film Regenerating Australia. Find more: To screen the film, gain access to resources etc., head to the Rachel’s Farm website. You can hear Rachel and Anthony in conversation just before the film’s premiere and tour, with Rachel’s co-star Mick Green, in episode 168. You’ll find Jade at Black Barn Farm, Sustainable Table, and on episode 128 of this podcast: Operating at Human Speed. Stay tuned for more on her next book soon. This conversation took place after a screening of Rachel’s Farm, as a curtain raiser to the Regenerative Agriculture conference 2023. Join us at the RE:CONNECTION Festival this weekend (subscribers get a 10% discount – subscribe and see the discount code on the recent posts on Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:48:31

170 Excerpt. Don’t Ask People to Pick a Side, with Tim Hollo

11/1/2023
It’s all go here now for the upcoming RE:CONNECTION Festival. But there are other reasons for this excerpt today. So many of my conversations these days, including after the Voice Referendum here in Australia, for example, come back to this part of episode 170 with Tim Hollo, author of ‘Living Democracy: An ecological manifesto for the end of the world as we know it’. And particularly the part where he said: “And I asked Amanda if there was a secret ingredient that sits behind it [the incredible success stories she’s worked on]. And what she told me has just echoed in my head forever since. And she just said simply, ‘don’t ask people to pick a side’.” We go on to talk here about the late great Elinor Ostrom, the first woman to win the Nobel Prize for economics. I had never heard of her till just prior to this episode. But she’s a big part of Tim’s book, and I later learned a big influence on previous guest Charles Massy, and an upcoming guest Charles introduced me to, former investment banker Justyn Walsh. A number of people said to me at the time that this episode completely changed the way they think and feel about what’s possible. Perhaps this excerpt can help us through this particular moment, and guide us back, or further, to the work that we know actually does bring people together and, quite often, results in outcomes that are genuinely extraordinary - but on the other hand, could very well become the norm. To hear the conversation in full, head to episode 170, ‘Changing What’s Possible’. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully provides greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). This conversation was recorded on Little Black Mountain in Canberra on 17 April 2023. Title slide: overlooking the nation’s capital Canberra, on another walk up a hill (pic: Anthony James). For behind the scenes footage and other benefits, including helping to keep the podcast going, please consider becoming a subscriber via the Patreon page. Music: Now to the Future, by FourPlay String Quartet (featuring Tim Hollo). Find more: Join us at the RE:CONNECTION Festival in the norther rivers of NSW on 11 November 2023 (become a subscriber to get a discount – you’ll find the code in recent posts in Patreon). Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:29:35

179. Coming to a Head in the Kimberley (Part 2): Chris Henggeler on the donkey situation, wildlife management & microbiome mysteries

10/24/2023
Welcome to part two of Coming to a Head in the Kimberley, featuring one of the great stories of regeneration, and one of the most spectacular regions in the world, at a time when both are acutely on the line. Join us back at Kachana Station in the East Kimberley, with award-winning regenerative pastoralist Chris Henggeler. We pick up the conversation from part one here, on the latest with the donkey situation. Since we last visited Kachana, the state department that ordered the donkeys at Kachana be shot as pests, and the Henggeler family that has geared their behavior towards regeneration, have been in mediation at the State Administrative Tribunal. The Tribunal’s adjudication on that appeal is due before year’s end. It will carry with it the fate of the donkeys at Kachana, and with that the fate of a potential game-changer in regeneration at scale across the region – at a time when it’s desperately needed. We talk here about the latest developments, research, language, history and other complexities on the matter - including the donkeys the Henggelers do shoot at Kachana. And we end up comparing notes on Chris’s related personal efforts with some paradigm changing health practices. This thoughtful dialogue plunges into the intricate ties between biodiversity and domestication, sparking intriguing debates on managing both wild and domestic animals. We ponder over the immense significance of local wisdom and nature-informed decision-making in sculpting our future. It's an enlightening journey that challenges our understanding of relationships and responsibility, both towards ourselves and our planet. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (please note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect). This episode was recorded at Kachana Station on 23 August 2023. Title slide: Kachana Station (pic: Anthony James). See more photos on the episode web page, and to see more from behind the scenes, become a subscriber via the Patreon page. Music: Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, off the soundtrack for the film Regenerating Australia. Find more: You can hear part one of this conversation (with photos and links), at Coming to a Head in the Kimberley: On regenerating consciousness, community and Country. Resilient Earth, composed by Sheila Silver, featuring a piece called Shooting Ruminants, inspired by experiences like Kachana Station. RE:CONNECTION Festival. Kachana through kid’s eyes, on ep.15 of the Yeshe Interviews podcast on Spotify. Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:49:51

179. Coming to a Head in the Kimberley: Chris Henggeler on regenerating consciousness, community & Country

10/18/2023
Chris Henggeler and his family manage Kachana Station in the East Kimberley, only accessible by foot or air. They took responsibility for this desertified and abandoned country, and have achieved some incredible regeneration, culminating last year in a State Soil Health Champion award. Yet with still vast lands desertifying around them, and so much opportunity to build on models like Kachana, we recorded an episode out there two years ago titled Wanted Land Doctors. Now the second most popular episode on this podcast, it was a powerful invitation for the next generations to join the fray, and how the rest of us can help them do it. But there is trouble afoot. The regeneration at Kachana Station has incorporated and relied on not just cattle, but wild donkeys. The bond these animals share with this Station family is clear. But just before we recorded that episode two years ago, the state department ordered the family to gun them down as pests. The Henggelers appealed the order. And the State Tribunal process adjudicating on that appeal is coming to a head in a few weeks. In parallel, you could say, the Kimberley itself is coming to a head. Forecast to suffer unliveable heat in the coming decades, with ‘climate refugees’ already heading south, and worsening floods like this year's at Fitzroy Crossing. So this week, Chris and I draw some of the broader patterns together. And we hear the latest on how they're being turned around at Kachana, and beyond. That leads us to a deep dive on some of the best stories, thinking and intuitive wisdom we’re coming across, that are helping more heads and hearts come together across divides, to make more of the good stuff happen. Next week, part 2 of this episode will feature a full and telling update on the donkey situation. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (please note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect). Recorded on 23 August 2023. Title slide: Chris Henggeler & friends (pic: Anthony James). See more photos on the episode web page, and to see more from behind the scenes, become a subscriber via the Patreon page. Music: Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, off the soundtrack for the film Regenerating Australia. Find more: Kachana Station. You can hear the previous chat with Chris in ep.100, Wanted Land Doctors (with more photos and links on that web page). The change in land tenure at El Questro. RE:CONNECTION Festival. Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:01:06:35

178. Navigating the Emotional Echoes of the Referendum: Heidi Mippy, on the Voice to Parliament & beyond

10/10/2023
Heidi Mippy is a Noongar and Thiin-Mah Warriyangka woman, and a pioneer in Aboriginal education support and community development. For over 25 years, Heidi’s been leading and sharing in many brilliant success stories, with renowned integrity, smarts and spirit. Here, Heidi joins Anthony in the lead up to Australia’s national referendum on an Aboriginal Voice to Parliament this weekend, with no predetermined agenda, clear cut positions, or knowledge of what each other was thinking, going in. We hope this very personal and raw conversation adds something to your deliberations too, as the referendum approaches, and beyond. In an atmosphere charged with emotions and complexities, Heidi and Anthony unravel layers of history, government initiatives, and community expectations. From the polarising conversations within the community to the anxieties that cloud the day after the referendum. We also examine the potential of the referendum, and the Uluru Statement as a whole, and the challenges that loom ahead either way. But this isn't just about the referendum. It's about the power of community, the potency of 'what ifs', and how to harness that together to finally address our most urgent of needs, and realise our greatest of opportunities. Head here for automatic cues to chapter markers (also available on the embedded player on the episode web page), and a transcript of this conversation (please note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read). Recorded online on 9 October 2023. And produced with human intelligence. Title slide: Heidi Mippy (sourced here). Music: Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, off the soundtrack for the film Regenerating Australia. Find more: Heidi Mippy on LinkedIn. Voice to Parliament referendum 2023. Australian government fact sheet on the Voice. You can hear the previous time Heidi was on the podcast in ep.143, Visited by the Rainbow Serpert. (There are photos on that web page too) Biodiversity Conference 2023. The best-selling book Heidi wrote a chapter for, Rising Matriarch. RE:CONNECTION Festival. Support the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them by clicking the link above or heading to our website. Become a member to connect with your host, other listeners & other benefits, via our Patreon page. Visit The RegenNarration shop to wave the flag. And please keep sharing, rating & reviewing the podcast. It all helps. Thanks for your support!

Duration:00:56:01