Thriving in Dystopia

Dave and Bob discuss nature education, poetry, and school reform, using the lens of Rabindranath Tagore, and Bengali Nobel Prize winner who led an incredible life in the early 20th century. He changed the way we see education and is still influencing the world today. We also look at modern day decedents of his pedagogy like Richard Louv, Adrienne Maree Brown, and Audre Lorde. Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song Captain Jack by is the outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

The brothers dust off their rust. They discuss how things have been over the last 9 months. And they get into an important news item that is getting left off the mainstream platter. The theme for this season is No Bummer! Scheming and Dreaming. The Crew discusses where this idea came from and the directions they hope to take it. Episodes may include: the key bands of every decade (music) with DH, 00s nostalgia, The Peachies, Top 10 dinners, anarchism for dummies, the Rojava revolution, and sports betting and Beyond Xs and Os with Danny. Did You Know In 1992, a cargo ship carrying approximately 29,000 bath toys (mostly rubber ducks) spilled in the northern Pacific Ocean. These so-called Friendly Floatees have been drifting ashore for over 20 years, sometimes in surprising parts of the world—not only Alaska, but also Hawaii, Australia, Indonesia, and Chile. Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song Captain Jack by is the outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

The brother's are back in the sound studio after a long Hiatus, and boy did we miss it. It felt good to be home. This episode is all about grad school and new ideas Dave is learning to implement in his classroom. Bob is a great ear as always and up for a little knowledge. Learn all about ELA, Social Studies, and Math/Science literacy and how we can all implement disciplinary literacy with some great action items and new ideas. Here is a link to one of Dave's lessons plans on immigration, but feel free to email for other ideas. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aU2p4eVScw3cSIaY2z12ju5y9iyaj53q/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103573351396379238331&rtpof=true&sd=true Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song Captain Jack by is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

The brothers end the season with this episode. They start by discussing Dave's journey with Omicron. Dave reflects on having the bug and some lessons learned. They follow this with Bob's reflections on MLK Day and the 2020 doc MLK/FBI. The heart of the show is wrapping up their season on Valerie Kaur's revolutionary love. They only were able to do 1/3 of the love model, but in the last episode, they reflect on the challenges of loving one's enemy and on loving one's self. At the and a shout-out to Tricia Hersey's work at the Nap Ministry. The end with some Suberb Owl predications (lol, so old now). And a promo for Julie's class on health for teens and tweens and the divine feminine! Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song Captain Jack by is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

The Crew discusses the ongoing attack and crises in Ukraine. They go over what we know so far, some of the historical context of the attack, and some possible implications. Recorded on February 27.

In the first show of 2022 the Crew starts off by discussing the Omicron Covid Surge. The main topic for the show was Bob’s trip to Boulder. Bob summarizes his trip, which had some magical elements to it. David reflects on the reality that the pandemic has minimized or taken away the ability to hang out. The brothers share their reflections on experiencing the fires in Boulder. Part of the experience was affording an even deeper connection to Boulder. They then refer back to The Ministry of the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson as a helpful book on climate fiction (Cli-fi), and they discuss one of the ideas there of monetizing green energy. New Year’s prediction show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCm4qkP-_mE&ab_channel=DavePeachtree Stoneface You think an eggplant is good. You should try another food. It’s even better. (terrible joke) 4:1 Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song Captain Jack by Kimo Crew (sp.?) is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

It’s our 2021 review show. And it’s a Thriving first as both brothers are in-person in Colorado. For a game and in honor of the Beatles documentary Get Back, the Crew names their top 5 Beatles songs. Dave: 5. Rocky Racoon, 4. Hey Jude, 3. Can’t Buy Me Love, 2. Let It Be, 1. Here Comes the Sun. Bob 5. (tie) Here Comes The Sun 5. (tie) While My Guitar Gently Weeps, 4. Tomorrow Never Knows, 3. Strawberry Never Knows, 2. A Day In The Life, 1. Hey Jude Next the Crew talks about the Peachies, which are Dave’s survey on best Sitcoms of all times, but for our show the Peaches are the best shows, movies, and songs of 2021. Dave: Movie - (tie) In the Heights and Licorice Pizza Show - Ted Lasso season 2 Song - (tie) Good 4 You by Olivia Rodrigo and Butter by BTS Bob: Movie - Judas and The Black Messiah Show - (tie) Reservation Dogs and Only Murders in the Building Song - Enfance 80 by Vidoeclub Finally, the Crew discuss the big news stories and historical events of 2021. They select 1 each that strongly affected them. Dave: U.S. pulls out of Afghanistan Bob: Striketober Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song Captain Jack by is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

The book club finishes the discussion on Eula Biss’ book. The sections for this discussion are “Investment” and “Accounting.” The discussion touches on what is art? (especially if made by elephants or androids), breaking out of the system while complicit in it, the hard-wiring of investment gambling to our brain chemistry, and digging a hole on your 40th birthday! Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song Captain Jack by is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

Dave riffs on the “metaverse” and links it to Neal Stephenson’s dystopia Snow Crash. The brothers discuss whether this can turn out well. Bob brings up his health at the end of a challenging quarter at the Uni. Dave mentions that Julie is seeing clients and could provide help! The Crew heads to the outer circle of loving the other in Valerie Kaur’s revolutionary love, which is fighting. Fighting is connected to agency and entering the “battlefield.” Bob poses the question, “How do we continue the fight when it seems like we lose so many battles?” Dave brings up the idea of fighting for a better new world even if it is scarred by capitalism. This reminds Bob of the idea of finding meaning in the mundane influenced by Viktor Frankl. The brothers end with discussing what “shields and swords” they bring to the fight for making a better world. Stoneface Bob’s retort “they’re more of a font” gets Dave. 2:1 Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song Captain Jack by is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

To start off, thinking about coffee has the brothers talking about “old world” vs. “new world” food distinctions. Dave has found a new youtube channel called the Tierzoo that has inspired an assignment in his class. The topic of the day in Revolutionary Love is grieving. Bob gives a recap from last week and how wonder might flow into grief, and then they give an intro to grieving based on Valerie’s life and the chapter on grieving from See No Stranger. Dave relates a story from a recent hike with his mom reflecting on grief/loss that gave him a few insights on grief (including how the awe of the hike allowed for a deeper grieving). The Crew then reflects on the path of the pandemic to George Floyd’s killing to rebellion/revolution. Referring back to the episode with Katie G, Bob connects grieving together to the power of stories, telling stories, and the importance of holding space for each other. Dave recognizes that the creation of space is an act of (revolutionary) love and links this to the creation of vulnerability with one another. TierZoo: https://www.youtube.com/c/TierZoo The Revolutionary Love Learning Hub Courageous Conversations on Race Stoneface Dave got himself on his joke. 1:1 Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song Captain Jack by is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

In a side episode, the Crew was invited to partake in a bookclub with friends Mike and Dan. The book is Eula Biss’ Having and Being Had. The selection of this book came out of conversations about the discomfort with homeownership. The book, told in 2-3 page chapter vignettes, brings out the contradictory experiences in living in late capitalism. This discussion aimed at the first 2 sections: consumption and work. Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song Captain Jack by is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

Nadir masterfully adds harmony to Bob’s enthusiastic but moribund version of Kansas’ Carry On You Wayward Son. The brothers then discuss Halloween costume ideas (both influenced by different TV shows but landing on similar ideas). They introduce the theme of season 8: the 9 practices of Valerie Kaur’s revolutionary love. They will discuss each one in turn as it shows up in their lives. The revolutionary love compass outlines the 3 domains (love for others, opponents, and self) and levels of revolutionary love. In episode 1, the Crew delves into love for others at the personal level, which is wonder. Wonder is about curiosity and openness, and the brother ask each other about their first memories of being wonderstruck and the most recent experiences of wonder. They end with some deeper reflections on wonder and love. Stone Face The joke that got Bob, “A giraffe eating cherries.” Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song Captain Jack by is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

The brothers muse on what turning 40 means (it's the day before Bob’s birthday). The show is in the Matrix white room (in-between seasons). So the Crew does a big ol’ fashion tuned-in episode and share what TV, movies, music, sports, and podcasts they’ve been into. TV Dave: Sex Education (Netflix) Upload (Prime) Bob: Reservation Dogs (Hulu) Sweet Tooth (Netflix) Books Both: Having and Being Had by Eula Biss Movies Dave: Kicking and Screaming (1995) with mention of Eric Stoltz being the original Marty McFly! Bob: Freaks (2018) Sports Old Hoss Radbourn Greatest shot in WNBA history Music Bob: Videoclub (French band) Dave: Lofi chill out Podcast Both: 60 Songs that Explain the 90s Bob: For the Wild with Ayanna Young Quatschen Total Recall (1990 & 2012): Give These People Air Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song, Bach's Goldberg Variations is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

Dave discusses plans for Hispanic Heritage month, which reminds Bob to ask Dave about his journey to major in Spanish in college and then how that has played into Dave becoming a teacher. Within that story Dave brings up the interesting question of whether to wear an embroidered shirt (tune it as writing makes it seem mundane!). Dave asks Bob about the 60 Songs That Explain the 90s podcast. With 19 songs left, Bob and Dave chat about some possibilities for them. The main topic of the episode is concluding the season on its last episode. After naming the episodes and the brother’s lists, the Crew synthesizes 3 themes from the season: They go on to discuss how to do the work of building another world in really rough times, (e.g. in a pandemic, with capitalism killing the earth, with a rising authoritarianism. And why do this work? It gives us life, change can come quickly, and another world is for everyone. Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song, Bach's Goldberg Variations is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

The brothers catch up and start with Dave’s first week of school. Dave says he has been trying to integrate quietness, stillness, and reduce anxiety (a la Brene Brown). He led a birthday line-up ice-breaker with 50 4th graders, which you had to see to believe. Bob is still in summer mode but also thinking about returning to a UCSC campus that is not really prepared for the Delta variant. The Crew wants to host their valiant editor to the show and take your questions for Nadir. Please contact us with them or put them on this google doc! The main topic of the show is learning from the Occupy movement 10 years later (Occupy Wall Street started September 17, 2011). The brothers give the background on Occupy and then delve into some lessons learned in terms of another world being possible. Start of book club Having and Being Had by Eula Biss this week Sept. 6. Join us! Wearing a facemask is an act of love poster: https://community.amplifier.org/art/act-of-love/ Aviva Romm: https://avivaromm.com/ Quick Fix How should Dave turn off the UV light for his class’ bearded dragon? Answer: see if there’s a custodial or other employee that can join in on the mutual aid! (And ask a vet exactly how much light they need.) Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song, Bach's Goldberg Variations is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

The Crew addresses the long delay between recording. Don’t worry everyone, we still love Thriving. The summer has been busy indeed, and the brothers discuss the places on earth where marriage proposals seem to happen. They discuss the new Cleveland baseball team nickname. And end the chit-chat on Dave’s move into his new co-housing. The main topic of the week is around the question of whether it is possible to hack capitalism. In other words, can capitalist tools be used to undo capitalism? The Crew starts this question by laying out what capitalism is and what it does to people and the world, and whether capitalism can be reformed or is revolution needed. The brothers believe revolutionary change is needed, however what revolution looks like for the majority of people in the world has led to more complex thinking. This leads to the concept of revolutionary reforms which the brothers develop. Dave presents the “credit card hack (scam).” Dave discusses how to use the deals that credit card companies give people to gain the benefits and then get out. The Crew discusses where this falls on the revolution vs. reform discussion. References: Revolution or Reform Reformist Reforms vs. Abolitionist Reforms Quick Fix How can I watch the Olympics without a TV? Use friend’s log-in to Xfiniti. Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song, Bach's Goldberg Variations is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

The brothers are joined by Bob’s new cat, Teddy Bear. They discuss introducing kittens to a new home (with Teddy mewing in the background). Dave theorizes that we do things for 4 reasons: to make money, because we love it, for others, and to do something new; and then asks Bob why he does the podcast. Lastly, they let listeners know that they are working on a new podcast with friend Dan C that will take sports on in a critical way. The topic for the week is what is art’s role in building another world? Bob draws on his research on artivism, which Chela Sandoval describes as art in the service of changing the world. He makes the point that we can all be artists because art is more of a way of approaching the world than an elite skill. This reminds Dave of when the brothers started a collective called Artist for Justice within the Rocky Mountain Peace and Justice Center many years ago. Dave loves the idea of art as creation and reflects where he feels creativity. Beehive Collective Opera by Eric Oh Quick Fix How can we spend less time scrolling on our telephone? Put your cellphone in a drawer and leave it there. Do that for an hour a day. Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song, Bach's Goldberg Variations is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

The brothers are blessed to have friend Dan, the Lynx of the Rocky Mountains, on the show. They start by discussing the intersection of basketball, culture, soccer, Keeping Up With The Kardashians, and gender relations. The main topic is whether another world of sports is possible? What kind of sports world do we want? The Crew shares their perspectives on what can be done to confront the cisheteropatriarchal dynamics in sports. Box score from Seattle Supersonics @ Los Angeles Lakers on Nov 27, 2007, a month after the first episode of Keeping Up With The Kardashians aired. In this game rookie Kevin Durant played against Khloe Kardashian ex-partner Lamar Odom. Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song, Bach's Goldberg Variations is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

The show starts with Dave sharing that he recently had to sell his chicken which brought some unexpected thoughts. Bob reflects on the last week of his school year teaching at Zoom U. For the show today, the Crew takes from the movie High Fidelity and the book Read and Riot by Nadya Tolokonnokova (of Pussy Riot) to make their Top 3 list with the category: Making Another World Possible. Dave’s list: Bob’s list Quick Fix If you hear faint dripping in your walls after doing dishes, what should you do? Call your supe or plumber! Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song, Bach's Goldberg Variations is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.

Bob sings the show in with one of Dave’s favorite songs from 1998. Then, a Thriving first: Dave makes a big announcement about one of our friends. Dave reflects on celebrating our mom’s birthday with a killer bike ride. After this, Dave tells a perfect Seinfeld story that just happened to him. Bob describes his first vacation in 17 months, a trip to Mendocino, in the Green Triangle. The topic of the week is the Zapatistas, the revolutionaries in Chiapas who live the praxis of “another is possible.” They start the episode asking the question, “how did it come to be that Dave found himself living in Chiapas for 6 months in 2018-19?” The Crew gives a background on the Zapatistas over the last 30 year. They then discuss their trip to Oventic, the 6th Zapatista Caracol. Wobblies and Zapatistas Quick Fix How can we have better mornings? Answer: Think more about the night before and the day after. Have a bed time routine and some structure the next day. Contact info Email - davepeachtree@gmail.com Twitter - @BMaze19 IG - Thriving_In_Dystopia Website - https://thrivingindystopia.com/ TikTok - @davepeachtree Deep appreciation to In Heaven by Drake Stafford for our intro song, Bach's Goldberg Variations is the new outro, the prolific and enigmatic Joe Shine for the thumbnail art. Big thank you to Nadir Čajić for editing this week’s show. Finally, we are indebted to the wonderful Chris Sawyer for funding and creating our new website. Thank you, Mix.