Warfare of Art & Law Podcast
Arts & Culture Podcasts
Warfare of Art and Law Podcast sparks conversation about the intriguing – and sometimes infuriating – stories that arise in the worlds of art and law with artist and attorney Stephanie Drawdy.
Location:
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Arts & Culture Podcasts
Description:
Warfare of Art and Law Podcast sparks conversation about the intriguing – and sometimes infuriating – stories that arise in the worlds of art and law with artist and attorney Stephanie Drawdy.
Language:
English
Contact:
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Website:
https://warfareofartandlaw.com/
Episodes
Artist & Attorney Stefania Salles Bruins on "How to Work Your Lawyer-Trained Brain to Strengthen Your Cranial Nerve 2" - A 2ND Saturday Conversation
10/6/2024
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Cover Image: Artist's MFA Studio - Tribeca Ball.
To learn more, please visit Stefania Salles Bruins' site.
Show Notes:
1:15 art school’s training to visually think
2:00 Bruins’ work as attorney
2:30 overview of grad program at New York Academy of Art
5:00 medium: use of linseed oil and paint without medium
5:30 tools: importance of brushes
6:15 support: Bruins’ preference for aluminum
7:15 Vincent Desiderio’s Cockaigne
8:00 Lesson 1 Perspective
8:45 Point of View
9:30 Lesson 2 Light
10:50 Lesson 2.5 Shadow
11:30 Rembrandt’s The Nightwatch
12:00 Lesson 3 Value
12:55 Lesson 4 Temperature
13:05 Courbet’s The Madman or The Desperate Man
13:50 Steven Assael - king of temperature shifts
14:20 Lesson 5 Depth
15:00 Value is King, Temperature is Queen and Color is a Fool
15:30 Lesson 6 Lines
15:40 shapes within da Vinci’s Mona Lisa
17:00 Adam Miller - narrative large oil paintings
17:20 Carl Dobsky
17:30 NYAA Big Stories exhibit artist talk
18:00 transitions within grad school and post-grad
19:40 learning to be your own voice of reason - parallel with work as general counsel
20:55 Old Masters Rembrandt and Vermeer
21:55 Alan Robertshaw: Vermeer’s use of optics
23:00 SSB: application of illusions in cinema and inspiration from movies more than paintings
24:00 Kubrick's Barry Lyndon
24:50 use of grids and projectors
27:15 use of technical and human assistants
28:45 critiques
30:00 art historical references to read the work
31:20 Nnebundo Obi: time commitments within art grad school
32:50 Escoda brushes
33:00 use of aluminum
34:45 advice for individuals who want to begin painting
35:30 always clean your brushes!
see also:
JP Roy's IG post re light
checkerboard illusion
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:00:37:28
D. Paul Schafer on the need to shift from the Economic Age to the Cultural Age and his new book, The Great Cultural Awakening: Key to an Equitable, Sustainable and Harmonious Age
9/1/2024
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To learn more, please visit the World Culture Project and read about D. Paul Schafer's most recent book, The Great Cultural Awakening
Show Notes:
0:00 Schafer quotes Gurte: “live in the whole , the good and the beautiful”
2:15 background
7:50 Ontario Arts Council
8:15 Arts Administration and Cultural Policy graduate program at York University
8:45 freelancer-UNESCO, Canadian Dep’t of External Affairs
9:25 publications predicated on argument that it’s time to shift from Economic Age to Cultural Age
9:50 creation of the World Culture Project
16:40 Culture: Beacon of the Future (1998)
18:10 AI impact
18:45 Geoffrey Hinton’s concerns over AI
20:50 Revolution or Renaissance: Making the Transition from an Economic Age to a Cultural Age (2008)
24:25 The World as Culture: Cultivation of the Soul to the Cosmic Whole (2022)
30:05 The Great Cultural Awakening: Key to an Equitable, Sustainable and Harmonious Age (2024)
42:30 future leaders should have backgrounds in the arts and culture sector
46:50 Feedback received about The Great Cultural Awakening
48:00 excerpt from The Great Cultural Awakening’s chapter titled Tale of Two Ages that references Charles Dickens’ Tale of Two Cities
53:00 the power of art to address social injustice
1:00:00 definition of justice
1:02:20 Cultural Historian Johan Huizinga, author of The Waning of the Middle Ages
1:04:20 legacy
1:06:40 future projects
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:01:10:16
Dr. Andres Guadamuz on IP in the AI Age: Exploring Copyright, Authorship, and Future Regulations
8/4/2024
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Show notes:
1:20 background and work in IP law and technology
2:20 blog article, “What can internet history teach us?”
3:25 IP issues emerging in the age of AI
5:10 inevitability of AI
6:40 global regulation of AI
8:25 Emily Gould - which body would handle global regulation of AI
11:00 Council of Europe’s adoption of first AI international treaty
11:50 Gould - UK proposal to expand text and data mining exception to cover commercial uses
14:55 transparency issues
18:40 Gould - response - need for legislation
20:20 authorship question
21:40 THJ Systems v. Sheridan (THJ Systems Ltd. v. Sheridan [2023] EWCA Civ 1354, [2024] E.C.D.R. 4, CA, 20 November 2023) is of great interest because it confirms the test for originality in copyright law in the UK after Brexit.
22:55 Li v. Liu, Case Number: (2023) Jing 0491 Min Chu No. 11279, Beijing Internet Court, 27 November 2023
25:00 NFTs
25:30 Thaler v. Perlmutter and USCO, USCA Case #23-5233
29:30 continued utility of copyright
32:40 AI copyright suits in the US
36:30 cultural impact of AI models’ accelerated training capabilities
38:20 view of whether there is a future for careers in art
42:50 tools like spawning.ai for artists’ protections
43:00 opt ins versus opt outs
43:50 technological protections like Glaze and Nightshade
45:15 difficulty of implementing opt ins
47:45 injustices in the AI age and definition of justice
50:33 mark that Andres hopes to make with his work
53:40 Stefania Salles-Bruins - IP protection for AI software and outputs
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:01:00:42
Artist in Exile: Tetiana Cheprasova Shares About Her Work as a Witness of her Time
7/7/2024
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To learn more about Tetiana Cheprasova, please visit her page at Agency of Artists in Exile.
Special thanks to Valentina Kostornichenko for acting as interpreter in this episode.
Show Notes:
0:00 Tetiana Cheprasova's view of the war in Ukraine & interpreter Valentina Kostornichenko
1:30 Cheprasova's background and work in painting, photography, sculptures and graphic design
4:50 Giovanni Ercolani’s book The Maidan Museum Preserving the Spirit of Maidan. Art, Identity and the Revolution of Dignity that features Cheprasova’s paintings inspired by Caravaggio
8:00 from Cheprasova's Depassement portfolio - paintings of hands, including wounded hands signifying stigmata
10:30 Mariupol woman who inspired Cheprasova
20:40 ‘Stop Emotions’ series of 9 paintings
25:00 Cityscapes of Mariupol
29:30 sculpture that’s part of new work to depict destruction in Ukraine
34:00 Parisian architecture
35:00 consequences of war
38:00 power of art to address social injustices and the impact of war
41:00 Cheprasova's view of justice
45:40 Cheprasova’s work as art therapist
49:20 Cheprasova’s hope for viewers of her work
53:00 Giovanni Ercolani’s questions to Cheprasova
56:00 if only one person is impacted by your work, it’s worth doing
56:50 Artists as witnesses of their time
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:00:59:22
Author & Historian Angie Elita Newell Discusses her book, All I See Is Violence, involving the 1876 Battle of Little Bighorn and the 1970s American Indian Movement
6/9/2024
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To learn more, please visit Angie Elita Newell's site for All I See Is Violence.
Show Notes:
1:20 Newel’s background
4:00 impetus to address historic inaccuracies
4:50 women warriors
5:30 research process
7:20 perspectives decided on for All I See Is Violence
8:45 interconnectedness of all
10:15 timelines within All I See Is Violence
11:50 reading from All I See Is Violence
16:50 archival research
18:45 surreal stories from elders
20:40 feedback
21:40 Custer
22:40 power of art to address social issues
23:00 Picasso’s Guernica
25:00 reparations
25:50 the Very Little Truth and No Reconciliation Committee
27:00 reservations / prison camps
28:30 publishing process and manipulation of the truth by the big 5 publishers
32:30 Indigenous Poet Joy Harjo
33:30 American Indian movement in the 1970s
35:50 concept of justice related to awareness
38:40 next book tells story of Apache leader Geronimo and female warrior Lozen
43:50 research on Lozen
45:00 Mexican slave trade of indigenous people
45:45 questions from Anjali Rao
47:00 to build dual timelines, Newell asks questions about what’s the point and building on that overarching point
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:00:49:47
Deadria Farmer-Paellmann Provides an Update on Restitution Study Group's Work for Slavery Justice, including the Status of the Benin Bronze Suit Against the Smithsonian Institution
5/26/2024
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Cover Photo by Nils Paellmann
0:00 Restitution Study Group (RSG) Executive Director Deadria Farmer-Paellmann
1:30 overview of suit and issues raised
4:30 Prof. Tobias Skowronek’s findings on the metals contained in the manillas
7:00 Dismissal of suit against Smithsonian based on mootness
7:55 court order that Plaintiffs conceded points and waived arguments
8:45 ruling in OK reparations case for the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre
10:30 Nigerian declaration by outgoing President Buhari
12:00 critical argument that transfer was ultra vires
13:00 Administrative Procedure Act - failure to hold public hearing on ‘ethical transfers’ creates First Amendment issue
15:00 opinion on Nigeria’s position
17:00 DNA research as to descendants from Esan People from Benin Kingdom
19:00 Benin Kingdom’s enslavement of their females
20:15 Manchester Museum’s 2023 repatriation to Australia’s Aboriginal Anindilyakwa community of Groote Eylandt
21:00 change in narratives offered by Frankfurt’s Museum of World Cultures and Berlin’s Humboldt Museum
22:45 ancestral dedications at institutions holding Benin Bronzes
23:30 Benin Kingdom Museum in Harlem, NY
25:15 underreporting on lawsuit
26:00 shock about value of Benin Bronzes - a classic Wakanda story at end of first Black Panther film
28:20 potential for justice in US lower federal courts and in SCOTUS
31:00 narrative attached to the Benin Bronzes
33:30 Illinois State Rep. Carol Ammons - Joint chairwoman of Illinois Legislative Black Caucus meeting with Chicago's Field Museum
34:30 NY Legislator involved in work of RSG
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:00:36:37
Fast Familiar Co-Founder Rachel Briscoe on Creating Audience-Centric Theatre to Facilitate Dialogue and Address Social Issues and How Tech Can Serve Humanity in that Process
5/5/2024
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To learn more, please visit Fast Familiar's site.
Show Notes:
0:00 Briscoe discussing justice
1:20 Briscoe’s background in theatre and co-founding Fast Familiar
3:15 2015 project ‘Invisible Treasure’ about systems of power
4:40 2018 began work with computational artist Joe McAlister
5:20 technological solutions for use in projects
6:30 The Justice Syndicate
8:40 The Acquisitions Panel
9:40 collaborations
10:25 The Evidence Chamber - forensic science work with University of Dundee
13:00 use of comic strip with forensic information in The Evidence Chamber
15:40 Curse of the Burial Daggers
18:00 Smoking Gun - collaboration with Data Stories
23:00 outcomes in jury shows and influence of current events
25:25 machine learning with data gathered through projects
26:45 process
28:40 Future for Fast Familiar
30:30 justice defined
32:20 feedback
35:35 arts to address social issues
38:20 2024 projects
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:00:40:16
Author & Art Historian Dr Laura Morelli Discusses her Historical Fiction Novel The Last Masterpiece and WWII Looting of Florentine Collections
4/21/2024
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To learn more, please visit Laura Morelli's site.
Show Notes:
0:00 Laura Morelli discussing the WWII era art looting
1:15 genesis of writing about the looting of Florentine art collections in The Last Masterpiece
2:45 German Jewish artist Rudolph Levy as guest of German Art History Institute
4:30 Stolperstein for Levy
5:00 perspectives in WWII Italy: museum officials, German expatriates and Allies
8:30 German Eva Brunner and American Josephine Evans - characters in The Last Masterpiece
9:30 decisions on where to begin and end The Last Masterpiece
13:30 decision to use fictional characters versus historical figures in book
14:40 German Art History Institute Director Prof. Friedrich Kriegbaum
16:00 Kriegbaum’s participation in Hitler’s 1938 tour of Florence
18:25 Brunner’s back story
20:10 German photographer Hilde Lotz-Bauer who worked for Prof. Kriegbaum photographing Allied damage to historical monuments in Florence
24:15 Evans based on Women’s Army Corp (WACs)
28:25 women who worked with and supported the Monuments Men
29:00 justice in terms of the individual actions and decisions that enabled the survival of art looted during WWII
31:30 books by Robert Edsel and Ilaria Dagnini Brey
32:15 survival bias
33:30 van Dyck painting
33:40 Uffizi Director Eike Schmidt’s work for Germany to return looted Dutch painting
35:00 impact of propaganda during WWII
38:10 Michelangelo’s Secret Room with 16th C drawings
42:20 2024 release of book related to hiding places in Tuscan countryside in 1943-44
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:00:46:00
Novelist & Attorney Barbara Hinske Discusses her Rosemont Series, Guiding Emily Series & Hallmark Movie, Discrimination Against the Blind, Art's Ability to Address Social Issues and Much More
4/7/2024
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To learn more, please visit Barbara Hinske's website.
Cover photo of Barbara Hinske, 2020 Jean Laninga Creative.
Show Notes:
0:00 Guiding Emily Series to effect change for good in the sighted community
1:15 background in engineering and the law
2:00 whodunit books by Barbara’s father
2:25 double vision by auto accident led to Rosemont series
3:55 her approach to writing while still working as an attorney
7:00 work with a writing coach
8:15 writing coach Linden Gross
8:45 Author Conference on Clubhouse
10:30 Rosemont Series
13:50 Guiding Emily Series
14:45 Guiding Emily movie on Hallmark in April 2024
15:00 genesis of Guiding Emily at Foundation for Blind Children
22:50 discrimination against the visually impaired community
24:45 unemployment rate of the visually impaired community
26:00 panel to address employability of individuals from visually impaired community
30:05 viewers@hallmarkmedia.com
35:20 exclusion of unsighted parents
37:30 guide dog graduation ceremony
40:20 Guiding Emily presentation
41:40 power of art to shift and address social issues
42:00 The Christmas Club
44:00 pregnant unsighted individual’s experience
45:30 Canadian child at Foundation for Blind Children
46:55 definition of justice
49:15 The Write Approach podcast
51:20 Hinske’s strong older female protagonists
53:50 Final Circuit
57:30 self-published in e-book and print; traditionally published in audio
58:00 Hinske’s legacy to uplift, encourage and empower
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:01:00:11
*Bonus* "Manifestation of Freedom" from Elicit Justice: Conversations Off Grid
3/31/2024
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Featuring excerpts from Episode 108, an interview with Dr. Ashfaq Ishaq, and Episode 105, an interview with Milena Chorna, with musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2024.
Many thanks to M.C. Sungaila who sparked the idea for "Manifestation of Freedom".
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:00:03:18
Appellate Attorney M.C. Sungaila on Space Cultural Heritage Preservation and Lessons to be drawn from Holocaust-Era Restitution Cases like Cassirer
3/3/2024
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Show Notes:
0:00 M.C. Sungaila discussing history / preservation of space exploration
1:50 Sungaila’s Portia Project Podcast interview with Space Law Expert Michelle Hanlon
2:45 Sungaila’s experience with University of Mississippi School of Law’s Air and Space Program
5:30 unclear language related to space law
8:00 mining on the moon
9:40 lessons from Holocaust-era restitution cases like Cassirer v. Thyssen-Bornemisza Collection Foundation
12:30 For All Moonkind
13:30 International Symposium on Cultural Heritage in War and Peace: Tangible and Intangible Cultural Heritage through Past, Present and Future
16:45 Sungaila’s proposed framework to create space cultural heritage commission
22:45 The Artemis Accords
24:50 Italian Opera added to UNESCO intangible cultural heritage list
25:15 treaty requiring registration of space objects
25:35 For All Moonkind’s moon registry
26:10 One Small Step To Protect Human Heritage in Space Act
27:40 Sungaila’s projection
29:30 Dubai space court
31:25 urgency of space cultural heritage preservation
32:40 definition of justice
35:40 9th Cir's 9 Jan 2024 opinion in Cassirer and the question of ethics and law
39:45 Mismatch between domestic law and international obligations
42:10 Institute on Space Law and Ethics
44:00 issues related to satellites, drones, air taxis
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
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Duration:00:47:07
Attorney Sanjay Sethi Discusses Artistic Freedom Initiative's Work, Oppression of the Arts and Cultural Sectors Globally & the Need for Pluralistic Discourse
2/18/2024
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Cover image by Nosrat Tarighi of Sanjay Sethi at an AFI event entitled Revolutions and Movements
To learn more, please visit the sites for Artistic Freedom Initiative and Sethi & Mazaheri, LLC.
Show Notes:
2:00 overview of Sethi’s background and work as Founding Partner of Sethi & Mazaheri, LLC and Co-Executive Director of Artistic Freedom Initiative (AFI)
3:45 genesis and mission of AFI
5:00 AFI’s services
8:00 AFI’s residency program
9:00 AFI’s Artists for Social Change
9:45 challenges to helping artists
13:00 AFI’s creation of a sponsorship model
13:30 AFI’s program in Germany
15:00 determination of artists in imminent danger
16:20 assistance for female artists
18:20 university placements for female artists
18:40 the New School’s fellowships for Afghan artists at risk
19:00 Germany’s program for artists at risk
21:00 Journals of Exile at the Berliner Ensemble
22:10 programs through AFI’s Artists For Social Change
23:45 Brazilian Singer Songwriter Bia Ferreira
25:20 AFI’s Afghan Artists Protection Project & Iranian Artists Support Project
27:00 challenges of single intent visas like student visas and O-1 visas
28:30 denial of entry based on immigration intent for Afghan versus Iranian artists
30:00 applications from Myanmar, Egypt, Nicaragua, India and particular Kashmir
31:00 impact of prior and upcoming elections
31:30 Poland shifted back to center left with loss of Law and Justice (PiS) party
31:50 Slovakia’s election of Fico w/ agenda similar to Hungary’s Orbán
32:00 Slovenia’s election of liberal Robert Golob
32:10 Brazil’s election of leftist former president, defeating Pres. Jair Bolsonaro
32:15 Indian PM Narendra Modi’s Hindu Nationalist Party projected to win
32:30 elections in Italy and the Netherlands
32:45 new and different threats to cultural sectors globally
33:00 AfI’s Artistic Freedom Monitor - initial reports on Poland and Hungary
36:00 regimes replaced museum/cultural institute heads w/ right wing politicians
36:00 Curation of shows under those regimes would conform to nationalist ideals
37:25 defunding anti-regime institutions or anti-Catholic in Poland
37:50 intimidation of non-conforming artists
38:10 Poland’s use of blasphemy law to criminally charge non-conforming artists
38:00 chilling effect of such subversive mechanisms
39:15 AFI’s position that arts decisions should be merits-based and non-ideological
39:30 response to Artistic Freedom Monitor’s reports
40:00 erroneous belief that arts are inconsequential in public & political dialogue
41:35 elevation of AFI’s advocacy efforts to an international forum
44:00 collaboration to lobby for artistic and creative freedom
45:00 impact of artificial intelligence
47:50 legacy of his work
49:50 his notion of justice
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:00:55:07
Dr. Elizabeth White and Dr. Joanna Sliwa discuss their book, The Counterfeit Countess: the Jewish Woman Who Rescued Thousands of Poles During the Holocaust
2/4/2024
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Show Notes:
2:00 Dr. Joanna Sliwa’s background
4:20 Dr. Elizabeth White’s background
5:20 Majdanek concentration camp
8:00 1989 - White received the manuscript of Dr. Janina Mehlberg’s unpublished memoir from Dr. Arthur Funk
10:30 Dr. Janina Mehlberg’s humanitarian work in Polish concentration camp during WWII
12:20 Mehlberg’s alias as Countess Suchodolska
13:30 2018 - Dr. Joanna Sliwa began work with Dr. White to research Mehlberg's memoir
15:00 reading from The Counterfeit Countess
20:00 balance of co-authoring The Counterfeit Countess
22:20 research process
24:00 surprises from the research
27:45 Countess Karolina Lanckorońska
30:30 Saturnina Malm
33:30 Dr. Stefania Perzanowska
35:00 view of women’s roles during war and instances of persecution
38:00 empathic approach of Mehlberg as a model for today
42:00 propoganda
46:00 individual ways to address hate
49:00 justice
51:45 legacy
54:30 Sliwa’s focus on marginalized groups, including future volume on experiences of older jews before, during and after the Holocaust
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
Thanks so much for listening!
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Duration:00:57:14
Researcher Chiara Gallo on Influencer Advertising & Art - A 2ND Saturday Conversation
1/21/2024
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Show Notes:
1:00 overview of thesis topic
3:00 2018 music video at the Louvre by Beyoncé and Jay Z
3:55 Advertising campaign by Louis Vuitton that featured Joan Mitchell paintings
6:00 2020 Uffizi promotional campaign to promote Botticelli exhibition
7:25 Uffizi’s TikTok account posting with Dua Lipa
8:10 criticism of Uffizi campaigns
9:20 Approaches by EU and UK
11:20 Influencer marketing
14:35 EU Directive
30:10 Italian approach
33:00 liability under Italian case law and consumer code
35:30 historical events that caused Gallo’s choice on research and thesis
37:00 Emily Gould
38:20 Alan Robertshaw
43:15 risks and contractual issue with fees
46:20 Gould
47:45 Gallo on InstaGram disclosure
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
Music by Toulme.
To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.
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Duration:00:51:10
Anthropologist and Author Dr. Giovanni Ercolani on Artists in Ukraine Who Are Preserving the Spirit of Maidan
1/7/2024
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To learn more, please have a look at Dr. Ercolani's book, The Maidan Museum: Preserving the Spirit of Maidan.
Show Notes:
1:00 Ercolani’s background
3:50 Ercolani’s focus of Ukraine
6:40 research and writing The Maidan Museum: Preserving the Spirit of Maidan
11:40 new Maidan language created that includes symbols
14:45 portraits by Marina Sochenko
16:50 Yulia Ovcharenko
17:45 Tatyana Cheprasova
18:20 Cheprasova’s use of Caravaggio
19:00 Oleksandr Ivanovych Melnyk’s “I Can See Your Deeds”
19:45 Melnyk’s “I Can See Your Deeds”
20:25 French anthropologist Marc Augé - ‘anthropology of encounter’
21:15 Marina Sochenko’s art as documentation
21:55 Artistic Hundreds group
22:15 Artist Ivan Semesyuk with Artistic Hundreds
26:15 Kandinsky quote that artists are receivers and beneficiaries
28:15 Maidan art and a new world order
33:45 NATO
36:45 Maidan revolution and the current war
41:00 memory of identify and identity war
42:05 author Andrey Kurkov’s move to Ukraine to have the identity of Ukrainians
43:25 significant of preserving art and cultural heritage in times of conflict
47:00 his legacy
49:50 his definition of justice
51:15 the constitution of Melfi by Emperor Frederick II
53:15 link between Russian-Ukraine War and Maidan Revolution
58:45 next projects focused on conflict in society
1:00:30 anthropological identity work tied to art and cultural heritage
1:02:30 artist seen as enemy
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Duration:01:06:54
*Bonus* “Signs” from Elicit Justice: Conversations Off Grid
12/22/2023
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Featuring excerpts from Episode 121, an interview with Dr. Samson Munn and musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2023.
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Duration:00:04:36
Copyright Advocate & Author David Newhoff on State Sovereign Immunity, IP, AI and Artists' Rights - A 2ND Saturday Conversation
12/17/2023
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Cover Photo of David Newhoff by Sean Mekas
To learn more, please visit Mr. Newhoff's site as well as his blog, The Illusion of More.
Show Notes:
1:45 Newhoff’s background
4:15 impetus to write Who Invented Oscar Wilde?: The Photograph at the Center of Modern American Copyright?
6:15 SCOTUS’s Warhol decision
10:00 Sarony’s input compared with and AI users’ input
14:00 Newhoff’s comments to USCO’s NOI and Request for Comments
17:20 compulsory licensing scheme
18:50 RightsClick
25:45 USCO’s focus on how a work was created (by AI or human) versus leaving that to courts
25:55 feedback on his comments to USCO
32:00 AI copyright lawsuits in the US
36:25 liability for AI training data
40:45 Emily Gould: whether training involves making copies, EU exception for copies
43:00 whether US copyright is still fit for purpose in light of issues raised by AI
44:20 work “in the style of”
48:40 Deborah Roberts vs Lynthia Edwards - suit over collage works
52:30 Alan Robertshaw: threshold of infringing work versus transformative work
54:50 why use AI to create artwork
56:45 NFT hype
57:35 the legacy Newhoff hopes to be creating
58:50 Newhoff’s view of justice
1:01:00 status of Allen v. Cooper and Allen’s pending constitutional takings claim
1:04:00 camouflage patents
1:05:20 change from allowing IP claims against states to decision that Congress does not have that authority and 11th Amendment’s restriction of individuals bringing suit against states controlled
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Duration:01:07:52
Dr. Samson Munn on Recovering Art by Jacob Mącznik and other School of Paris Artists, Escaping the Burden of Silence Through Dialogue, Citizenship, Israeli PM Netanyahu, the Fraught Concept of Legacy & Defining Justice
12/3/2023
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Cover Image: Self-Portrait, oil on canvas by Jacob Mącznik.
To learn more, please visit the website for Jacob Mącznik, the Lost Art Database page for Mącznik's Still Life with Fish, The Austrian Encounter and the trailer to The Ghosts of the Third Reich.
Show Notes:
0:00 Dr. Samson Munn discussing Van Ham art auctionhouse
1:45 Munn’s background
2:50 history of Holocaust-related dialogue with Dan Bar-On
4:00 Children of the Third Reich
4:20 Austrian dialogue group
4:35 Ghosts of the Third Reich
6:00 second group, The Encounter
7:45 Dan Bar-On’s book Fear and Hope
12:00 examples from dialogue groups
17:15 Munn’s initial motivation to start dialogue group - emotional responsibility
24:40 Munn’s dialogue work in Northern Ireland
27:25 dialogue work with descendants of displaced indigenous peoples
28:50 preparation for dialogue group facilitators
32:20 screening individuals for dialogue groups
33:45 Israeli, Polish and German citizenship
44:30 Jacob Mącznik’s work
1:00:00 Van Ham auctionhouse
1:06:00 Parisian archive research
1:11:00 Munn’s research of other artists from the Paris School
1:12:30 female artists from the Paris School
1:14:30 Mącznik catalogue raisonne
1:17:00 legacy that Munn is working to create
1:19:30 justice
1:22:30 Israeli PM Netanyahu
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© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
Duration:01:25:55
Fair Use and AI - A 2ND Saturday Exploration
11/19/2023
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Show Notes:
0:00 Yelena Khajekian
1:30 Warhol v Goldsmith decision by SCOTUS
3:00 USCO NOI’s Question 8
4:00 Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc., 593 U.S. ___ (2021)
4:20 liability question
4:45 Emily Gould - fair use
6:30 Alan Robertshaw - Warhol court’s focus on use of the work
7:50 Khajekian - artists’ perspective on Warhol decision
9:00 Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc., 510 U.S. 569 (1994)
10:20 confusion of fair use analysis and court’s aesthetic analysis
12:00 USCO NOI’s Question about fair use
13:00 Robertshaw - UK’s fair dealing analysis
15:50 Gould - big players like Getty
17:45 text and data mining exception
20:10 Drawdy - private contracting as a solution
21:00 Robertshaw - Getty
22:15 Khajekian - conceptual art
25:55 Warhol’s 2 Cir decision
26:50 Gould & Khajekian - Richard Prince decision held not fair use
27:20 Khajekian - equity issue
28:40 Gould - UK courts’ emphasis on purpose, e.g., Stormtrooper helmet case
30:30 Drawdy - amount and substantiality of use
31:10 Gould - Australian case about Men at Work’s use of folk song Kookaburra in its pop song Down Under
32:20 Robershaw - dispute over Vanilla Ice’s Ice Ice Baby
33:00 Ed Sheeran
34:15 Getty case pending in UK
35:00 Khajekian - international versus US issues
37:30 Robershaw - test that contemplates level of effort or end result regarding AI output
40:30 Gould - risks involved with AI
40:50 EU’s application-based approach
41:10 AI for medical applications
41:55 detecting forgeries will still require humans, e.g., conflicting AI results regarding Raphael
42:50 implicit bias in AI
43:15 dogs detecting forgeries
43:40 chickens detecting shapes
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Music by Toulme.
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Duration:00:45:09
Glance at Culture - Martha Szabo's NYC Solo Exhibition & MSeum's Celebration of Unknown Female Artists
11/5/2023
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Cover art: Martha Szabo, Rooftops in Snow 11, oil on linen, 24 x 35 in., circa 1964
To learn more, please visit the sites for Martha Szabo and MSeum.
Show Notes:
0:00 Art historian Kathleen Hulser
1:30 Journalist Julia Szabo’s motivation to work on Martha Szabo’s body of work
4:30 MSeum to be built in the Catskills
5:00 National Association of Women in Construction
7:50 Justice for unknown female artists
11:15 Museum’s mission related to blind and low-vision visitors
13:45 Sculpture Robin Antar’s limestone sculpture of Szabo’s “Red Sunset”
15:20 Legacy to be created with MSeum includes redefining storage
16:45 Visible storage space
18:30 Julia Szabo’s parents
19:45 ‘Mother Artist’ field of scholarship
20:00 Author Hettie Judah
21:20 Reception for Martha Szabo’s exhibition Up On the Roof
22:10 Artist Christina Massey
23:20 Museum’s director Kathleen Hulser
24:30 “Up On the Roof” exhibition curated by Hulser
26:00 “Incorrigibles” trans media project
27:45 MSeum’s creation and mission
34:15 Hulser’s scope a MuSeum
36:45 Martha Szabo’s background and how it impacted her work
43:15 Feedback about Martha Szabo’s solo exhibition Up On The Roof: Liberation, Transformation, Celebration
49:35 MSeum and exhibitions like “Up On The Roof” role in bringing some historical justice for female creatives
52:10 David Richard Gallery
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© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
Duration:00:54:31