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Warfare of Art and Law Podcast sparks conversation about the intriguing – and sometimes infuriating – stories that arise in the worlds of art and law with artist and attorney Stephanie Drawdy.

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Warfare of Art and Law Podcast sparks conversation about the intriguing – and sometimes infuriating – stories that arise in the worlds of art and law with artist and attorney Stephanie Drawdy.

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Artist & Attorney Stefania Salles Bruins on "How to Work Your Lawyer-Trained Brain to Strengthen Your Cranial Nerve 2" - A 2ND Saturday Conversation

10/6/2024
Send us a text Cover Image: Artist's MFA Studio - Tribeca Ball. To learn more, please visit Stefania Salles Bruins' site. Show Notes: 1:15 art school’s training to visually think 2:00 Bruins’ work as attorney 2:30 overview of grad program at New York Academy of Art 5:00 medium: use of linseed oil and paint without medium 5:30 tools: importance of brushes 6:15 support: Bruins’ preference for aluminum 7:15 Vincent Desiderio’s Cockaigne 8:00 Lesson 1 Perspective 8:45 Point of View 9:30 Lesson 2 Light 10:50 Lesson 2.5 Shadow 11:30 Rembrandt’s The Nightwatch 12:00 Lesson 3 Value 12:55 Lesson 4 Temperature 13:05 Courbet’s The Madman or The Desperate Man 13:50 Steven Assael - king of temperature shifts 14:20 Lesson 5 Depth 15:00 Value is King, Temperature is Queen and Color is a Fool 15:30 Lesson 6 Lines 15:40 shapes within da Vinci’s Mona Lisa 17:00 Adam Miller - narrative large oil paintings 17:20 Carl Dobsky 17:30 NYAA Big Stories exhibit artist talk 18:00 transitions within grad school and post-grad 19:40 learning to be your own voice of reason - parallel with work as general counsel 20:55 Old Masters Rembrandt and Vermeer 21:55 Alan Robertshaw: Vermeer’s use of optics 23:00 SSB: application of illusions in cinema and inspiration from movies more than paintings 24:00 Kubrick's Barry Lyndon 24:50 use of grids and projectors 27:15 use of technical and human assistants 28:45 critiques 30:00 art historical references to read the work 31:20 Nnebundo Obi: time commitments within art grad school 32:50 Escoda brushes 33:00 use of aluminum 34:45 advice for individuals who want to begin painting 35:30 always clean your brushes! see also: JP Roy's IG post re light checkerboard illusion Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:37:28

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D. Paul Schafer on the need to shift from the Economic Age to the Cultural Age and his new book, The Great Cultural Awakening: Key to an Equitable, Sustainable and Harmonious Age

9/1/2024
Send us a text To learn more, please visit the World Culture Project and read about D. Paul Schafer's most recent book, The Great Cultural Awakening Show Notes: 0:00 Schafer quotes Gurte: “live in the whole , the good and the beautiful” 2:15 background 7:50 Ontario Arts Council 8:15 Arts Administration and Cultural Policy graduate program at York University 8:45 freelancer-UNESCO, Canadian Dep’t of External Affairs 9:25 publications predicated on argument that it’s time to shift from Economic Age to Cultural Age 9:50 creation of the World Culture Project 16:40 Culture: Beacon of the Future (1998) 18:10 AI impact 18:45 Geoffrey Hinton’s concerns over AI 20:50 Revolution or Renaissance: Making the Transition from an Economic Age to a Cultural Age (2008) 24:25 The World as Culture: Cultivation of the Soul to the Cosmic Whole (2022) 30:05 The Great Cultural Awakening: Key to an Equitable, Sustainable and Harmonious Age (2024) 42:30 future leaders should have backgrounds in the arts and culture sector 46:50 Feedback received about The Great Cultural Awakening 48:00 excerpt from The Great Cultural Awakening’s chapter titled Tale of Two Ages that references Charles Dickens’ Tale of Two Cities 53:00 the power of art to address social injustice 1:00:00 definition of justice 1:02:20 Cultural Historian Johan Huizinga, author of The Waning of the Middle Ages 1:04:20 legacy 1:06:40 future projects Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:01:10:16

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Dr. Andres Guadamuz on IP in the AI Age: Exploring Copyright, Authorship, and Future Regulations

8/4/2024
Send us a text Show notes: 1:20 background and work in IP law and technology 2:20 blog article, “What can internet history teach us?” 3:25 IP issues emerging in the age of AI 5:10 inevitability of AI 6:40 global regulation of AI 8:25 Emily Gould - which body would handle global regulation of AI 11:00 Council of Europe’s adoption of first AI international treaty 11:50 Gould - UK proposal to expand text and data mining exception to cover commercial uses 14:55 transparency issues 18:40 Gould - response - need for legislation 20:20 authorship question 21:40 THJ Systems v. Sheridan (THJ Systems Ltd. v. Sheridan [2023] EWCA Civ 1354, [2024] E.C.D.R. 4, CA, 20 November 2023) is of great interest because it confirms the test for originality in copyright law in the UK after Brexit. 22:55 Li v. Liu, Case Number: (2023) Jing 0491 Min Chu No. 11279, Beijing Internet Court, 27 November 2023 25:00 NFTs 25:30 Thaler v. Perlmutter and USCO, USCA Case #23-5233 29:30 continued utility of copyright 32:40 AI copyright suits in the US 36:30 cultural impact of AI models’ accelerated training capabilities 38:20 view of whether there is a future for careers in art 42:50 tools like spawning.ai for artists’ protections 43:00 opt ins versus opt outs 43:50 technological protections like Glaze and Nightshade 45:15 difficulty of implementing opt ins 47:45 injustices in the AI age and definition of justice 50:33 mark that Andres hopes to make with his work 53:40 Stefania Salles-Bruins - IP protection for AI software and outputs Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:01:00:42

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Artist in Exile: Tetiana Cheprasova Shares About Her Work as a Witness of her Time

7/7/2024
Send us a text To learn more about Tetiana Cheprasova, please visit her page at Agency of Artists in Exile. Special thanks to Valentina Kostornichenko for acting as interpreter in this episode. Show Notes: 0:00 Tetiana Cheprasova's view of the war in Ukraine & interpreter Valentina Kostornichenko 1:30 Cheprasova's background and work in painting, photography, sculptures and graphic design 4:50 Giovanni Ercolani’s book The Maidan Museum Preserving the Spirit of Maidan. Art, Identity and the Revolution of Dignity that features Cheprasova’s paintings inspired by Caravaggio 8:00 from Cheprasova's Depassement portfolio - paintings of hands, including wounded hands signifying stigmata 10:30 Mariupol woman who inspired Cheprasova 20:40 ‘Stop Emotions’ series of 9 paintings 25:00 Cityscapes of Mariupol 29:30 sculpture that’s part of new work to depict destruction in Ukraine 34:00 Parisian architecture 35:00 consequences of war 38:00 power of art to address social injustices and the impact of war 41:00 Cheprasova's view of justice 45:40 Cheprasova’s work as art therapist 49:20 Cheprasova’s hope for viewers of her work 53:00 Giovanni Ercolani’s questions to Cheprasova 56:00 if only one person is impacted by your work, it’s worth doing 56:50 Artists as witnesses of their time Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:59:22

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Author & Historian Angie Elita Newell Discusses her book, All I See Is Violence, involving the 1876 Battle of Little Bighorn and the 1970s American Indian Movement

6/9/2024
Send us a Text Message. To learn more, please visit Angie Elita Newell's site for All I See Is Violence. Show Notes: 1:20 Newel’s background 4:00 impetus to address historic inaccuracies 4:50 women warriors 5:30 research process 7:20 perspectives decided on for All I See Is Violence 8:45 interconnectedness of all 10:15 timelines within All I See Is Violence 11:50 reading from All I See Is Violence 16:50 archival research 18:45 surreal stories from elders 20:40 feedback 21:40 Custer 22:40 power of art to address social issues 23:00 Picasso’s Guernica 25:00 reparations 25:50 the Very Little Truth and No Reconciliation Committee 27:00 reservations / prison camps 28:30 publishing process and manipulation of the truth by the big 5 publishers 32:30 Indigenous Poet Joy Harjo 33:30 American Indian movement in the 1970s 35:50 concept of justice related to awareness 38:40 next book tells story of Apache leader Geronimo and female warrior Lozen 43:50 research on Lozen 45:00 Mexican slave trade of indigenous people 45:45 questions from Anjali Rao 47:00 to build dual timelines, Newell asks questions about what’s the point and building on that overarching point Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:49:47

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Deadria Farmer-Paellmann Provides an Update on Restitution Study Group's Work for Slavery Justice, including the Status of the Benin Bronze Suit Against the Smithsonian Institution

5/26/2024
Send us a text Cover Photo by Nils Paellmann 0:00 Restitution Study Group (RSG) Executive Director Deadria Farmer-Paellmann 1:30 overview of suit and issues raised 4:30 Prof. Tobias Skowronek’s findings on the metals contained in the manillas 7:00 Dismissal of suit against Smithsonian based on mootness 7:55 court order that Plaintiffs conceded points and waived arguments 8:45 ruling in OK reparations case for the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre 10:30 Nigerian declaration by outgoing President Buhari 12:00 critical argument that transfer was ultra vires 13:00 Administrative Procedure Act - failure to hold public hearing on ‘ethical transfers’ creates First Amendment issue 15:00 opinion on Nigeria’s position 17:00 DNA research as to descendants from Esan People from Benin Kingdom 19:00 Benin Kingdom’s enslavement of their females 20:15 Manchester Museum’s 2023 repatriation to Australia’s Aboriginal Anindilyakwa community of Groote Eylandt 21:00 change in narratives offered by Frankfurt’s Museum of World Cultures and Berlin’s Humboldt Museum 22:45 ancestral dedications at institutions holding Benin Bronzes 23:30 Benin Kingdom Museum in Harlem, NY 25:15 underreporting on lawsuit 26:00 shock about value of Benin Bronzes - a classic Wakanda story at end of first Black Panther film 28:20 potential for justice in US lower federal courts and in SCOTUS 31:00 narrative attached to the Benin Bronzes 33:30 Illinois State Rep. Carol Ammons - Joint chairwoman of Illinois Legislative Black Caucus meeting with Chicago's Field Museum 34:30 NY Legislator involved in work of RSG Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:36:37

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Fast Familiar Co-Founder Rachel Briscoe on Creating Audience-Centric Theatre to Facilitate Dialogue and Address Social Issues and How Tech Can Serve Humanity in that Process

5/5/2024
Send us a text To learn more, please visit Fast Familiar's site. Show Notes: 0:00 Briscoe discussing justice 1:20 Briscoe’s background in theatre and co-founding Fast Familiar 3:15 2015 project ‘Invisible Treasure’ about systems of power 4:40 2018 began work with computational artist Joe McAlister 5:20 technological solutions for use in projects 6:30 The Justice Syndicate 8:40 The Acquisitions Panel 9:40 collaborations 10:25 The Evidence Chamber - forensic science work with University of Dundee 13:00 use of comic strip with forensic information in The Evidence Chamber 15:40 Curse of the Burial Daggers 18:00 Smoking Gun - collaboration with Data Stories 23:00 outcomes in jury shows and influence of current events 25:25 machine learning with data gathered through projects 26:45 process 28:40 Future for Fast Familiar 30:30 justice defined 32:20 feedback 35:35 arts to address social issues 38:20 2024 projects Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:40:16

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Author & Art Historian Dr Laura Morelli Discusses her Historical Fiction Novel The Last Masterpiece and WWII Looting of Florentine Collections

4/21/2024
Send us a text To learn more, please visit Laura Morelli's site. Show Notes: 0:00 Laura Morelli discussing the WWII era art looting 1:15 genesis of writing about the looting of Florentine art collections in The Last Masterpiece 2:45 German Jewish artist Rudolph Levy as guest of German Art History Institute 4:30 Stolperstein for Levy 5:00 perspectives in WWII Italy: museum officials, German expatriates and Allies 8:30 German Eva Brunner and American Josephine Evans - characters in The Last Masterpiece 9:30 decisions on where to begin and end The Last Masterpiece 13:30 decision to use fictional characters versus historical figures in book 14:40 German Art History Institute Director Prof. Friedrich Kriegbaum 16:00 Kriegbaum’s participation in Hitler’s 1938 tour of Florence 18:25 Brunner’s back story 20:10 German photographer Hilde Lotz-Bauer who worked for Prof. Kriegbaum photographing Allied damage to historical monuments in Florence 24:15 Evans based on Women’s Army Corp (WACs) 28:25 women who worked with and supported the Monuments Men 29:00 justice in terms of the individual actions and decisions that enabled the survival of art looted during WWII 31:30 books by Robert Edsel and Ilaria Dagnini Brey 32:15 survival bias 33:30 van Dyck painting 33:40 Uffizi Director Eike Schmidt’s work for Germany to return looted Dutch painting 35:00 impact of propaganda during WWII 38:10 Michelangelo’s Secret Room with 16th C drawings 42:20 2024 release of book related to hiding places in Tuscan countryside in 1943-44 Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:46:00

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Novelist & Attorney Barbara Hinske Discusses her Rosemont Series, Guiding Emily Series & Hallmark Movie, Discrimination Against the Blind, Art's Ability to Address Social Issues and Much More

4/7/2024
Send us a text To learn more, please visit Barbara Hinske's website. Cover photo of Barbara Hinske, 2020 Jean Laninga Creative. Show Notes: 0:00 Guiding Emily Series to effect change for good in the sighted community 1:15 background in engineering and the law 2:00 whodunit books by Barbara’s father 2:25 double vision by auto accident led to Rosemont series 3:55 her approach to writing while still working as an attorney 7:00 work with a writing coach 8:15 writing coach Linden Gross 8:45 Author Conference on Clubhouse 10:30 Rosemont Series 13:50 Guiding Emily Series 14:45 Guiding Emily movie on Hallmark in April 2024 15:00 genesis of Guiding Emily at Foundation for Blind Children 22:50 discrimination against the visually impaired community 24:45 unemployment rate of the visually impaired community 26:00 panel to address employability of individuals from visually impaired community 30:05 viewers@hallmarkmedia.com 35:20 exclusion of unsighted parents 37:30 guide dog graduation ceremony 40:20 Guiding Emily presentation 41:40 power of art to shift and address social issues 42:00 The Christmas Club 44:00 pregnant unsighted individual’s experience 45:30 Canadian child at Foundation for Blind Children 46:55 definition of justice 49:15 The Write Approach podcast 51:20 Hinske’s strong older female protagonists 53:50 Final Circuit 57:30 self-published in e-book and print; traditionally published in audio 58:00 Hinske’s legacy to uplift, encourage and empower Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:01:00:11

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*Bonus* "Manifestation of Freedom" from Elicit Justice: Conversations Off Grid

3/31/2024
Send us a text Featuring excerpts from Episode 108, an interview with Dr. Ashfaq Ishaq, and Episode 105, an interview with Milena Chorna, with musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2024. Many thanks to M.C. Sungaila who sparked the idea for "Manifestation of Freedom". Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:03:18

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Appellate Attorney M.C. Sungaila on Space Cultural Heritage Preservation and Lessons to be drawn from Holocaust-Era Restitution Cases like Cassirer

3/3/2024
Send us a text Show Notes: 0:00 M.C. Sungaila discussing history / preservation of space exploration 1:50 Sungaila’s Portia Project Podcast interview with Space Law Expert Michelle Hanlon 2:45 Sungaila’s experience with University of Mississippi School of Law’s Air and Space Program 5:30 unclear language related to space law 8:00 mining on the moon 9:40 lessons from Holocaust-era restitution cases like Cassirer v. Thyssen-Bornemisza Collection Foundation 12:30 For All Moonkind 13:30 International Symposium on Cultural Heritage in War and Peace: Tangible and Intangible Cultural Heritage through Past, Present and Future 16:45 Sungaila’s proposed framework to create space cultural heritage commission 22:45 The Artemis Accords 24:50 Italian Opera added to UNESCO intangible cultural heritage list 25:15 treaty requiring registration of space objects 25:35 For All Moonkind’s moon registry 26:10 One Small Step To Protect Human Heritage in Space Act 27:40 Sungaila’s projection 29:30 Dubai space court 31:25 urgency of space cultural heritage preservation 32:40 definition of justice 35:40 9th Cir's 9 Jan 2024 opinion in Cassirer and the question of ethics and law 39:45 Mismatch between domestic law and international obligations 42:10 Institute on Space Law and Ethics 44:00 issues related to satellites, drones, air taxis Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:47:07

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Attorney Sanjay Sethi Discusses Artistic Freedom Initiative's Work, Oppression of the Arts and Cultural Sectors Globally & the Need for Pluralistic Discourse

2/18/2024
Send us a text Cover image by Nosrat Tarighi of Sanjay Sethi at an AFI event entitled Revolutions and Movements To learn more, please visit the sites for Artistic Freedom Initiative and Sethi & Mazaheri, LLC. Show Notes: 2:00 overview of Sethi’s background and work as Founding Partner of Sethi & Mazaheri, LLC and Co-Executive Director of Artistic Freedom Initiative (AFI) 3:45 genesis and mission of AFI 5:00 AFI’s services 8:00 AFI’s residency program 9:00 AFI’s Artists for Social Change 9:45 challenges to helping artists 13:00 AFI’s creation of a sponsorship model 13:30 AFI’s program in Germany 15:00 determination of artists in imminent danger 16:20 assistance for female artists 18:20 university placements for female artists 18:40 the New School’s fellowships for Afghan artists at risk 19:00 Germany’s program for artists at risk 21:00 Journals of Exile at the Berliner Ensemble 22:10 programs through AFI’s Artists For Social Change 23:45 Brazilian Singer Songwriter Bia Ferreira 25:20 AFI’s Afghan Artists Protection Project & Iranian Artists Support Project 27:00 challenges of single intent visas like student visas and O-1 visas 28:30 denial of entry based on immigration intent for Afghan versus Iranian artists 30:00 applications from Myanmar, Egypt, Nicaragua, India and particular Kashmir 31:00 impact of prior and upcoming elections 31:30 Poland shifted back to center left with loss of Law and Justice (PiS) party 31:50 Slovakia’s election of Fico w/ agenda similar to Hungary’s Orbán 32:00 Slovenia’s election of liberal Robert Golob 32:10 Brazil’s election of leftist former president, defeating Pres. Jair Bolsonaro 32:15 Indian PM Narendra Modi’s Hindu Nationalist Party projected to win 32:30 elections in Italy and the Netherlands 32:45 new and different threats to cultural sectors globally 33:00 AfI’s Artistic Freedom Monitor - initial reports on Poland and Hungary 36:00 regimes replaced museum/cultural institute heads w/ right wing politicians 36:00 Curation of shows under those regimes would conform to nationalist ideals 37:25 defunding anti-regime institutions or anti-Catholic in Poland 37:50 intimidation of non-conforming artists 38:10 Poland’s use of blasphemy law to criminally charge non-conforming artists 38:00 chilling effect of such subversive mechanisms 39:15 AFI’s position that arts decisions should be merits-based and non-ideological 39:30 response to Artistic Freedom Monitor’s reports 40:00 erroneous belief that arts are inconsequential in public & political dialogue 41:35 elevation of AFI’s advocacy efforts to an international forum 44:00 collaboration to lobby for artistic and creative freedom 45:00 impact of artificial intelligence 47:50 legacy of his work 49:50 his notion of justice Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:55:07

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Dr. Elizabeth White and Dr. Joanna Sliwa discuss their book, The Counterfeit Countess: the Jewish Woman Who Rescued Thousands of Poles During the Holocaust

2/4/2024
Send us a text Show Notes: 2:00 Dr. Joanna Sliwa’s background 4:20 Dr. Elizabeth White’s background 5:20 Majdanek concentration camp 8:00 1989 - White received the manuscript of Dr. Janina Mehlberg’s unpublished memoir from Dr. Arthur Funk 10:30 Dr. Janina Mehlberg’s humanitarian work in Polish concentration camp during WWII 12:20 Mehlberg’s alias as Countess Suchodolska 13:30 2018 - Dr. Joanna Sliwa began work with Dr. White to research Mehlberg's memoir 15:00 reading from The Counterfeit Countess 20:00 balance of co-authoring The Counterfeit Countess 22:20 research process 24:00 surprises from the research 27:45 Countess Karolina Lanckorońska 30:30 Saturnina Malm 33:30 Dr. Stefania Perzanowska 35:00 view of women’s roles during war and instances of persecution 38:00 empathic approach of Mehlberg as a model for today 42:00 propoganda 46:00 individual ways to address hate 49:00 justice 51:45 legacy 54:30 Sliwa’s focus on marginalized groups, including future volume on experiences of older jews before, during and after the Holocaust Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:57:14

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Researcher Chiara Gallo on Influencer Advertising & Art - A 2ND Saturday Conversation

1/21/2024
Send us a text Show Notes: 1:00 overview of thesis topic 3:00 2018 music video at the Louvre by Beyoncé and Jay Z 3:55 Advertising campaign by Louis Vuitton that featured Joan Mitchell paintings 6:00 2020 Uffizi promotional campaign to promote Botticelli exhibition 7:25 Uffizi’s TikTok account posting with Dua Lipa 8:10 criticism of Uffizi campaigns 9:20 Approaches by EU and UK 11:20 Influencer marketing 14:35 EU Directive 30:10 Italian approach 33:00 liability under Italian case law and consumer code 35:30 historical events that caused Gallo’s choice on research and thesis 37:00 Emily Gould 38:20 Alan Robertshaw 43:15 risks and contractual issue with fees 46:20 Gould 47:45 Gallo on InstaGram disclosure Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:51:10

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Anthropologist and Author Dr. Giovanni Ercolani on Artists in Ukraine Who Are Preserving the Spirit of Maidan

1/7/2024
Send us a text To learn more, please have a look at Dr. Ercolani's book, The Maidan Museum: Preserving the Spirit of Maidan. Show Notes: 1:00 Ercolani’s background 3:50 Ercolani’s focus of Ukraine 6:40 research and writing The Maidan Museum: Preserving the Spirit of Maidan 11:40 new Maidan language created that includes symbols 14:45 portraits by Marina Sochenko 16:50 Yulia Ovcharenko 17:45 Tatyana Cheprasova 18:20 Cheprasova’s use of Caravaggio 19:00 Oleksandr Ivanovych Melnyk’s “I Can See Your Deeds” 19:45 Melnyk’s “I Can See Your Deeds” 20:25 French anthropologist Marc Augé - ‘anthropology of encounter’ 21:15 Marina Sochenko’s art as documentation 21:55 Artistic Hundreds group 22:15 Artist Ivan Semesyuk with Artistic Hundreds 26:15 Kandinsky quote that artists are receivers and beneficiaries 28:15 Maidan art and a new world order 33:45 NATO 36:45 Maidan revolution and the current war 41:00 memory of identify and identity war 42:05 author Andrey Kurkov’s move to Ukraine to have the identity of Ukrainians 43:25 significant of preserving art and cultural heritage in times of conflict 47:00 his legacy 49:50 his definition of justice 51:15 the constitution of Melfi by Emperor Frederick II 53:15 link between Russian-Ukraine War and Maidan Revolution 58:45 next projects focused on conflict in society 1:00:30 anthropological identity work tied to art and cultural heritage 1:02:30 artist seen as enemy Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:01:06:54

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*Bonus* “Signs” from Elicit Justice: Conversations Off Grid

12/22/2023
Send us a text Featuring excerpts from Episode 121, an interview with Dr. Samson Munn and musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2023. Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:04:36

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Copyright Advocate & Author David Newhoff on State Sovereign Immunity, IP, AI and Artists' Rights - A 2ND Saturday Conversation

12/17/2023
Send us a text Cover Photo of David Newhoff by Sean Mekas To learn more, please visit Mr. Newhoff's site as well as his blog, The Illusion of More. Show Notes: 1:45 Newhoff’s background 4:15 impetus to write Who Invented Oscar Wilde?: The Photograph at the Center of Modern American Copyright? 6:15 SCOTUS’s Warhol decision 10:00 Sarony’s input compared with and AI users’ input 14:00 Newhoff’s comments to USCO’s NOI and Request for Comments 17:20 compulsory licensing scheme 18:50 RightsClick 25:45 USCO’s focus on how a work was created (by AI or human) versus leaving that to courts 25:55 feedback on his comments to USCO 32:00 AI copyright lawsuits in the US 36:25 liability for AI training data 40:45 Emily Gould: whether training involves making copies, EU exception for copies 43:00 whether US copyright is still fit for purpose in light of issues raised by AI 44:20 work “in the style of” 48:40 Deborah Roberts vs Lynthia Edwards - suit over collage works 52:30 Alan Robertshaw: threshold of infringing work versus transformative work 54:50 why use AI to create artwork 56:45 NFT hype 57:35 the legacy Newhoff hopes to be creating 58:50 Newhoff’s view of justice 1:01:00 status of Allen v. Cooper and Allen’s pending constitutional takings claim 1:04:00 camouflage patents 1:05:20 change from allowing IP claims against states to decision that Congress does not have that authority and 11th Amendment’s restriction of individuals bringing suit against states controlled Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

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Dr. Samson Munn on Recovering Art by Jacob Mącznik and other School of Paris Artists, Escaping the Burden of Silence Through Dialogue, Citizenship, Israeli PM Netanyahu, the Fraught Concept of Legacy & Defining Justice

12/3/2023
Send us a Text Message. Cover Image: Self-Portrait, oil on canvas by Jacob Mącznik. To learn more, please visit the website for Jacob Mącznik, the Lost Art Database page for Mącznik's Still Life with Fish, The Austrian Encounter and the trailer to The Ghosts of the Third Reich. Show Notes: 0:00 Dr. Samson Munn discussing Van Ham art auctionhouse 1:45 Munn’s background 2:50 history of Holocaust-related dialogue with Dan Bar-On 4:00 Children of the Third Reich 4:20 Austrian dialogue group 4:35 Ghosts of the Third Reich 6:00 second group, The Encounter 7:45 Dan Bar-On’s book Fear and Hope 12:00 examples from dialogue groups 17:15 Munn’s initial motivation to start dialogue group - emotional responsibility 24:40 Munn’s dialogue work in Northern Ireland 27:25 dialogue work with descendants of displaced indigenous peoples 28:50 preparation for dialogue group facilitators 32:20 screening individuals for dialogue groups 33:45 Israeli, Polish and German citizenship 44:30 Jacob Mącznik’s work 1:00:00 Van Ham auctionhouse 1:06:00 Parisian archive research 1:11:00 Munn’s research of other artists from the Paris School 1:12:30 female artists from the Paris School 1:14:30 Mącznik catalogue raisonne 1:17:00 legacy that Munn is working to create 1:19:30 justice 1:22:30 Israeli PM Netanyahu Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

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Fair Use and AI - A 2ND Saturday Exploration

11/19/2023
Send us a text Show Notes: 0:00 Yelena Khajekian 1:30 Warhol v Goldsmith decision by SCOTUS 3:00 USCO NOI’s Question 8 4:00 Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc., 593 U.S. ___ (2021) 4:20 liability question 4:45 Emily Gould - fair use 6:30 Alan Robertshaw - Warhol court’s focus on use of the work 7:50 Khajekian - artists’ perspective on Warhol decision 9:00 Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc., 510 U.S. 569 (1994) 10:20 confusion of fair use analysis and court’s aesthetic analysis 12:00 USCO NOI’s Question about fair use 13:00 Robertshaw - UK’s fair dealing analysis 15:50 Gould - big players like Getty 17:45 text and data mining exception 20:10 Drawdy - private contracting as a solution 21:00 Robertshaw - Getty 22:15 Khajekian - conceptual art 25:55 Warhol’s 2 Cir decision 26:50 Gould & Khajekian - Richard Prince decision held not fair use 27:20 Khajekian - equity issue 28:40 Gould - UK courts’ emphasis on purpose, e.g., Stormtrooper helmet case 30:30 Drawdy - amount and substantiality of use 31:10 Gould - Australian case about Men at Work’s use of folk song Kookaburra in its pop song Down Under 32:20 Robershaw - dispute over Vanilla Ice’s Ice Ice Baby 33:00 Ed Sheeran 34:15 Getty case pending in UK 35:00 Khajekian - international versus US issues 37:30 Robershaw - test that contemplates level of effort or end result regarding AI output 40:30 Gould - risks involved with AI 40:50 EU’s application-based approach 41:10 AI for medical applications 41:55 detecting forgeries will still require humans, e.g., conflicting AI results regarding Raphael 42:50 implicit bias in AI 43:15 dogs detecting forgeries 43:40 chickens detecting shapes Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

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Glance at Culture - Martha Szabo's NYC Solo Exhibition & MSeum's Celebration of Unknown Female Artists

11/5/2023
Send us a text Cover art: Martha Szabo, Rooftops in Snow 11, oil on linen, 24 x 35 in., circa 1964 To learn more, please visit the sites for Martha Szabo and MSeum. Show Notes: 0:00 Art historian Kathleen Hulser 1:30 Journalist Julia Szabo’s motivation to work on Martha Szabo’s body of work 4:30 MSeum to be built in the Catskills 5:00 National Association of Women in Construction 7:50 Justice for unknown female artists 11:15 Museum’s mission related to blind and low-vision visitors 13:45 Sculpture Robin Antar’s limestone sculpture of Szabo’s “Red Sunset” 15:20 Legacy to be created with MSeum includes redefining storage 16:45 Visible storage space 18:30 Julia Szabo’s parents 19:45 ‘Mother Artist’ field of scholarship 20:00 Author Hettie Judah 21:20 Reception for Martha Szabo’s exhibition Up On the Roof 22:10 Artist Christina Massey 23:20 Museum’s director Kathleen Hulser 24:30 “Up On the Roof” exhibition curated by Hulser 26:00 “Incorrigibles” trans media project 27:45 MSeum’s creation and mission 34:15 Hulser’s scope a MuSeum 36:45 Martha Szabo’s background and how it impacted her work 43:15 Feedback about Martha Szabo’s solo exhibition Up On The Roof: Liberation, Transformation, Celebration 49:35 MSeum and exhibitions like “Up On The Roof” role in bringing some historical justice for female creatives 52:10 David Richard Gallery Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. Music by Toulme. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening! © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

Duration:00:54:31